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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #840 on: May 15, 2019, 08:59:13 PM »
It'll be interesting to see. We don't do easy finals. Even Cardiff took us to penalties when we last won a trophy.

Spurs are a good team and their style is very similar to ours. It could literally come down to individual performances. Unlike the bookies, I dont think we are as strong favorites, but favorites nonetheless. All that said, we should be winning this. *touch wood*

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« Reply #841 on: May 15, 2019, 09:00:56 PM »
Don't like saying it, this feels like a must win game. Until we get over the line in one of these, the doubts in the players minds will grow.
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #842 on: May 15, 2019, 09:02:03 PM »
Don't like saying it, this feels like a must win game. Until we get over the line in one of these, the doubts in the players minds will grow.

Its a cup final, of course its a must win game. When in the world did we ever enter a final without it being a must win?

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« Reply #843 on: May 15, 2019, 09:16:03 PM »
It'll be interesting to see. We don't do easy finals. Even Cardiff took us to penalties when we last won a trophy.

Spurs are a good team and their style is very similar to ours. It could literally come down to individual performances. Unlike the bookies, I dont think we are as strong favorites, but favorites nonetheless. All that said, we should be winning this. *touch wood*

As you say, I see Spurs as very similar to us, but I feel we are a more cohesive, stronger team unit.  We're not as reliant on one or two individuals' flashes of brilliance - game changers though they can be.  Everybody in our team is on the same page - you only have to look at our fourth goal against Barca to see the kind of work ethic we have in place.

That said, the final could easily go the same way as our trip to the Nou Camp - dominate and come away with nothing.  So much of this game will be won or lost in the minds of the players on the pitch; it will be two parts skill, one part sheer confidence and determination.  It's basically impossible to call. 

On paper, it should be us, but paper didn't matter a damn when Spurs played City.
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #844 on: May 15, 2019, 09:41:59 PM »
As you say, I see Spurs as very similar to us, but I feel we are a more cohesive, stronger team unit.  We're not as reliant on one or two individuals' flashes of brilliance - game changers though they can be.  Everybody in our team is on the same page - you only have to look at our fourth goal against Barca to see the kind of work ethic we have in place.

That said, the final could easily go the same way as our trip to the Nou Camp - dominate and come away with nothing.  So much of this game will be won or lost in the minds of the players on the pitch; it will be two parts skill, one part sheer confidence and determination.  It's basically impossible to call. 

On paper, it should be us, but paper didn't matter a damn when Spurs played City.

True but those were two legs, in one of which they lost and in one in which City missed a penalty, the approach to the first leg has also to be taken into consideration when comparing to a one off game [for instance we were clearly pushing against Barca to get an away goal even at 3-0 let alone 2-0 for instance].

The question is whether or not our best performance and application is better than Spur's best performance and application in said match? The motivation the desire the experience is all there, now it's about fulfilling all tasks and taking the chances when they're presented.
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #845 on: May 15, 2019, 10:08:51 PM »
As you say, I see Spurs as very similar to us, but I feel we are a more cohesive, stronger team unit.  We're not as reliant on one or two individuals' flashes of brilliance - game changers though they can be.  Everybody in our team is on the same page - you only have to look at our fourth goal against Barca to see the kind of work ethic we have in place.

That said, the final could easily go the same way as our trip to the Nou Camp - dominate and come away with nothing. So much of this game will be won or lost in the minds of the players on the pitch; it will be two parts skill, one part sheer confidence and determination.  It's basically impossible to call. 

On paper, it should be us, but paper didn't matter a damn when Spurs played City.

Not only will the players have learnt from the experience at the Nou Camp (as they showed in the second leg of that tie) this can always happen at the Nou Camp because Barca have Lionel Messi. No other team in the world has him so it's just not comparable or applicable to this final. Just the mere threat of Messi on the pitch can affect the opposition's game.

Yes, Tottenham beat Man City on their way to the final. The main different between us and Man City in the CL is that we value the concept of keeping clean sheets, or at least, are more capable of keeping clean sheets against top opponents on a consistent basis.

We're not silly like Man City who were only 1-0 down after the first leg against Spurs, and decided to go all gung-ho attack from the first minute in the 2nd leg. They wanted to blitz them in the first half, the same approach they had against us in the CL 2nd leg last year. They ran out of steam and couldn't keep going.

In those key games, they didn't value the concept of keeping a clean sheet (or keeping it tight), like we did against Barcelona in the second leg. Pep will look at what we did last week and rue how he couldn't overcome just a 1-0 defeat from the first leg against Spurs.

We're a proper 90 minute team. We were happy with 1-0 at half-time against Barca, knowing that we would get stronger in the second half, and there was a strong emphasis of keeping a clean sheet whether we did enough to get through or not.

We're just a different proposition in Europe.
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #846 on: May 15, 2019, 10:14:06 PM »
this feels like a must win game.

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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #847 on: May 15, 2019, 11:05:47 PM »
Don't like saying it, this feels like a must win game. Until we get over the line in one of these, the doubts in the players minds will grow.

Again, the simple message for fans is, become believers instead of doubters.

If you're talking about players, it doesn't make sense. What good comes out of doubting themselves. They've had a great season, they've broken our points record, why should this team doubt themselves at all?
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #848 on: May 15, 2019, 11:09:18 PM »
True but those were two legs, in one of which they lost and in one in which City drew, the approach to the first leg has also to be taken into consideration when comparing to a one off game [for instance we were clearly pushing against Barca to get an away goal even at 3-0 let alone 2-0 for instance].

The question is whether or not our best performance and application is better than Spur's best performance and application in said match? The motivation the desire the experience is all there, now it's about fulfilling all tasks and taking the chances when they're presented.

It's also about doing what we've been doing in the league this season. If we go behind, there's no reason to panic. If we play our normal game, we'll eventually score. And we need to take heart in how we kept plugging away till the end in must win league games where we were challenged. If we do the same, we could get them under pressure and get them to make mistakes towards the end.

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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #849 on: May 15, 2019, 11:43:59 PM »
That said, the final could easily go the same way as our trip to the Nou Camp - dominate and come away with nothing.

If Dele Alli repeatedly runs through 3/4 of our players and then scores a 30 yard free kick, you can compare them to Barca. Until then, they're a team that finished 26 points behind us, and one who've only beaten us once in 14 games (the Lovren debacle).

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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #850 on: May 16, 2019, 12:01:36 AM »
If Dele Alli repeatedly runs through 3/4 of our players and then scores a 30 yard free kick, you can compare them to Barca. Until then, they're a team that finished 26 points behind us, and one who've only beaten us once in 14 games (the Lovren debacle).

Previous meetings don't really matter. We had a horrible record against Chelsea in the league for a number of years under Rafa, but we were successful in knocking them out on 3 occassions in different competitions



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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #851 on: May 16, 2019, 12:03:26 AM »
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« Reply #852 on: May 16, 2019, 12:09:50 AM »
It's also about doing what we've been doing in the league this season. If we go behind, there's no reason to panic. If we play our normal game, we'll eventually score. And we need to take heart in how we kept plugging away till the end in must win league games where we were challenged. If we do the same, we could get them under pressure and get them to make mistakes towards the end.

I agree, we've learned how to win through various manners this year, in different circumstances, we've managed matches better, the tempo the pace, our football IQ as a group on the pitch imo has visibly improved vastly in a years time

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« Reply #853 on: May 16, 2019, 12:13:35 AM »
We really should give this team more credit for their mentality, belief, and effort after this season - 97pts and obviously the CL final - it will get us over the finish line.

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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #854 on: May 16, 2019, 12:42:32 AM »
Nothing like the 'home team' Spurs being given the smaller away dressing room, in favour of us, for Poch to help get his players wound up.
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« Reply #855 on: May 16, 2019, 02:01:20 AM »
As Jürgen put it, these lads are “mentality monsters”. Every game since the draw at Goodison has been a must win final of sorts, and we came up trump each time, despite some challenging moments (Spurs at home, Chelsea, Southampton & Newcastle away) to name a few.

I think this steely resolve and game management now imbued in this team will hold us in good stead in the final.

After “choking” at the 2007 World Cup, the New Zealand All Blacks really focused on blocking out the noise and just breaking down each game to its subsequent parts, with two World Cups including a nerve wracking  8-7 victory at home to France in the 2011 final, the outcomes.

I see similar qualities in this team, embodied above all by Van Dijk, Alisson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum & Mané. Whatever Spurs throw at us, whatever conspires to go against us, I trust this team to stick to its game and bring No. 6 home.

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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #856 on: May 16, 2019, 08:21:16 AM »
This warm weather training camp we're going on; I hope we've got a little friendly lined up in the middle of it somewhere because I've noticed we seem a little rusty when we've had too much time off as a side.
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #857 on: May 16, 2019, 09:00:19 AM »
You're right, he done a couple this year and we only got a shitty 97 points and champions league final place.

To be fair, we've dropped points immediately after both warm weather breaks.
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« Reply #858 on: May 16, 2019, 09:02:55 AM »
This warm weather training camp we're going on; I hope we've got a little friendly lined up in the middle of it somewhere because I've noticed we seem a little rusty when we've had too much time off as a side.

Found this through that this is anfield website after a quick google search

Tenerife – March 2016: Drew vs Spurs, drew vs Dortmund, won vs Stoke

La Manga – Feb 2017: Lost vs Leicester, won vs Arsenal, won vs Burnley

Tenerife – March 2017: Won vs Everton, drew vs B’mouth, won vs Stoke

Dubai – Jan 2018: Won vs Man City, lost vs Swansea, lost vs West Brom

Marbella – Feb 2018: Won vs West Ham, won vs Newcastle, drew vs Porto

Marbella – May 2018: Lost vs Real Madrid

Dubai – Jan 2019: Drew vs Leicester, drew vs West Ham, won vs B’mouth

Spain - March 2019: Drew vs Bayern Munich, drew vs United, won vs Watford

Think the bad feeling about these comes from the recent one to Dubai but they were all battling some kind of illness in that trip right? and the most recent one where we just didn't look great

I used to think these training camps or international breaks had a detrimental effect on the team....i dont know. I can't believe the amount of brains we have behind this team would do anything to lessen our chances to go into that final firing, maybe this training camp will be slightly different
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #859 on: May 16, 2019, 09:06:39 AM »
with the warm weather training camp it didnt help we came back to some very cold weather and a few players were unwell

at this time of the year it should be ok given it would help us acclimatize for madrid weather

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« Reply #860 on: May 16, 2019, 09:08:06 AM »
Found this through that this is anfield website after a quick google search

Tenerife – March 2016: Drew vs Spurs, drew vs Dortmund, won vs Stoke

La Manga – Feb 2017: Lost vs Leicester, won vs Arsenal, won vs Burnley

Tenerife – March 2017: Won vs Everton, drew vs B’mouth, won vs Stoke

Dubai – Jan 2018: Won vs Man City, lost vs Swansea, lost vs West Brom

Marbella – Feb 2018: Won vs West Ham, won vs Newcastle, drew vs Porto

Marbella – May 2018: Lost vs Real Madrid

Dubai – Jan 2019: Drew vs Leicester, drew vs West Ham, won vs B’mouth

Spain - March 2019: Drew vs Bayern Munich, drew vs United, won vs Watford

Think the bad feeling about these comes from the recent one to Dubai but they were all battling some kind of illness in that trip right? and the most recent one where we just didn't look great

I used to think these training camps or international breaks had a detrimental effect on the team....i dont know

The warm weather breaks seem to give us a short term hit in results but long term fitness for the run in.

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« Reply #861 on: May 16, 2019, 09:10:22 AM »
It'll be interesting to see. We don't do easy finals. Even Cardiff took us to penalties when we last won a trophy.



True that. Bolton League Cup or Sunderland FA Cup were probably our last two "easy finals". It just very rarely happens that they end up being a comfortable win. I think Spurs will really push us, but for fucks sake I could with a final where I saw us 3 - 0 up with 30 minutes to go and just spraying the ball around the park.

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« Reply #862 on: May 16, 2019, 09:12:16 AM »
The warm weather breaks seem to give us a short term hit in results but long term fitness for the run in.

so maybe as we come back a week before the final we will do our usual training in a week before a game too.

i.e it'll be a slightly different training camp then usual

only one comparable to before is the one just before last season's final and if I remember the game right (still only seen it once) we started quite well until the Salah incident...
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #863 on: May 16, 2019, 09:15:50 AM »
so maybe as we come back a week before the final we will do our usual training in a week before a game too.

i.e it'll be a slightly different training camp then usual

only one comparable to before is the one just before last season's final and if I remember the game right (still only seen it once) we started quite well until the Salah incident...

Having a strong squad is beneficial because we can have really competitive 11 v11 without having to organised behind closed doors games which I can imagine will be easy to arrange in close season and everyone on their holidays.

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« Reply #864 on: May 16, 2019, 09:20:20 AM »
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« Reply #865 on: May 16, 2019, 10:10:38 AM »
The thing about the training camp is, previously we have done it as a "necessary evil" during a break in a long season to help us in the long run. This time, we have an unavoidable 3 week gap, as do Spurs, so there is nothing to be lost from doing it. You can talk about losing rhythm, that is guaranteed already with the week gap. If anything, the fact we have done so many of these helps us compared to Spurs who I can't recall having the opportunity to do this during the season.

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« Reply #866 on: May 16, 2019, 10:34:24 AM »
We have some soft arsed fans.

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« Reply #867 on: May 16, 2019, 11:07:07 AM »
I think if they'd had the choice then both Pochettino and Klopp would have preferred a 2 week break over 3. Gives time to prepare and plan but also enough time to give the players time off to relax. Obviously given that the final was planned to be the end of all the domestic seasons, I know why the longer break is there but it just seem to be to the detriment of both teams.same with the Europa League final. Hell during the 2001 treble didn't we play the UEFA cup final on the Wednesday before the last league game at Charlton?

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« Reply #868 on: May 16, 2019, 11:10:53 AM »
I think if they'd had the choice then both Pochettino and Klopp would have preferred a 2 week break over 3. Gives time to prepare and plan but also enough time to give the players time off to relax. Obviously given that the final was planned to be the end of all the domestic seasons, I know why the longer break is there but it just seem to be to the detriment of both teams.same with the Europa League final. Hell during the 2001 treble didn't we play the UEFA cup final on the Wednesday before the last league game at Charlton?
yep and the Fa cup final was the saturday before the uefa cup win

the year united won the treble the games came thick and fast too

momentum and the buzz of winning trophies would give the players a boost to get on with it

it would tire them though no question. i remember carragher saying the uefa cup final in 2001 his legs just went an hour into the game
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« Reply #869 on: May 16, 2019, 11:17:01 AM »
True but those were two legs, in one of which they lost and in one in which City missed a penalty, the approach to the first leg has also to be taken into consideration when comparing to a one off game [for instance we were clearly pushing against Barca to get an away goal even at 3-0 let alone 2-0 for instance].

The question is whether or not our best performance and application is better than Spur's best performance and application in said match? The motivation the desire the experience is all there, now it's about fulfilling all tasks and taking the chances when they're presented.

Absolutely. I'm just showing both sides of the coin. Spurs ain't Barca, but if things go awry there's no second leg to fix it.  That works against Spurs more than us. As you say, Liverpool at their best is better than Spurs at their best.
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« Reply #870 on: May 16, 2019, 11:22:39 AM »
Not only will the players have learnt from the experience at the Nou Camp (as they showed in the second leg of that tie) this can always happen at the Nou Camp because Barca have Lionel Messi. No other team in the world has him so it's just not comparable or applicable to this final. Just the mere threat of Messi on the pitch can affect the opposition's game.

Yes, Tottenham beat Man City on their way to the final. The main different between us and Man City in the CL is that we value the concept of keeping clean sheets, or at least, are more capable of keeping clean sheets against top opponents on a consistent basis.

We're not silly like Man City who were only 1-0 down after the first leg against Spurs, and decided to go all gung-ho attack from the first minute in the 2nd leg. They wanted to blitz them in the first half, the same approach they had against us in the CL 2nd leg last year. They ran out of steam and couldn't keep going.

In those key games, they didn't value the concept of keeping a clean sheet (or keeping it tight), like we did against Barcelona in the second leg. Pep will look at what we did last week and rue how he couldn't overcome just a 1-0 defeat from the first leg against Spurs.

We're a proper 90 minute team. We were happy with 1-0 at half-time against Barca, knowing that we would get stronger in the second half, and there was a strong emphasis of keeping a clean sheet whether we did enough to get through or not.

We're just a different proposition in Europe.


Tbf to City they did score late on. Just for once they didn't get the rub of the green thanks to VAR. ;D

Our boys ARE mentality monsters; and even if Spurs score first we won't go to pieces. If anything, Spurs will panic over being ahead and having to defend a lead.  Our game management has been superb this season  - on a completely different level to anyone else.
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #871 on: May 16, 2019, 11:25:38 AM »
I know it's a bit early but barring training ground injuries I would expect:

Alisson, Trent, Matip, VVD, Robertson, Fabinho, Hendo, Gini, Salah, Firmino, Mane.


And for Spurs the question is whether they bring Kane back in or leave him as an option off the bench - which I think they will do - and they'll line up with 5 at the back (2 wing backs), 3 in midfield and 2 up front.

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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #872 on: May 16, 2019, 11:39:25 AM »
The thing about the training camp is, previously we have done it as a "necessary evil" during a break in a long season to help us in the long run. This time, we have an unavoidable 3 week gap, as do Spurs, so there is nothing to be lost from doing it. You can talk about losing rhythm, that is guaranteed already with the week gap. If anything, the fact we have done so many of these helps us compared to Spurs who I can't recall having the opportunity to do this during the season.

The weather is nicer in Liverpool then it is in Spain at the moment. Regardless of if our players go abroad, they are already in a warm weather training camp.

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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #873 on: May 16, 2019, 11:59:14 AM »
The weather is nicer in Liverpool then it is in Spain at the moment. Regardless of if our players go abroad, they are already in a warm weather training camp.

and the final is in Madrid, so the difference in weather is hardly night and day

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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #874 on: May 16, 2019, 12:46:37 PM »
The weather is nicer in Liverpool then it is in Spain at the moment. Regardless of if our players go abroad, they are already in a warm weather training camp.

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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #875 on: May 16, 2019, 12:52:01 PM »
with the warm weather training camp it didnt help we came back to some very cold weather and a few players were unwell

Most of the links I've seen around this suggest that changes in weather may worsen certain pre-existing medical conditions.

I've never really see any robust scientific evidence to suggest that healthy adults (and our footballers are definitely this) would be more susceptible to catching a virus (stomach bug or a cold) by changes in weather. There's an argument that a virus may spread more easily if the players are in closer proximity on a training camp versus normal training at Melwood. There's also the potential argument that being on a flight together could have caused the virus to spread more easily.

For a healthy adult a change in cold wether to warm weather should have very limited impact on your health or ability to catch a virus.

Also when people discuss our training camps, they probably aren't designed to have immediate impact. Particularly when they are in mid season. The conditioning work will be about maintaining fitness and hitting peak fitness at the end of the season. Any training camp for the CL Final will be completely different since we aren't looking to peak fitness wise in 2 moths time.

Blaming training camps for illness or poor form is a massive red herring.
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #876 on: May 16, 2019, 12:54:15 PM »
What's the latest on their injuries? Vertonghen, Winks and Kane likely to be back?

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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #877 on: May 16, 2019, 12:54:22 PM »
I see the media's placing pressure on us as if this is a win or die situation for us. After losing the league has settled after a few days, I'm beginning to ease up a little and i think we realise the amazing strides we've made. Losing the final would be absolute shit, particularly since my father supports Spurs but I'm strong enough to not let that potential shitty situation worry me.

Firstly, Spurs is not going to be a walkover. Make no mistake. Don't look into their PL form. This is going to be an extremely difficult game. Poch will know exactly how to stop us and what to do. We are also not invincible. I was watching Red Star Serbian league highlights yesterday and couldn't believe we lost to them in the UCL this season. But I'm quite sure our focus will be better than how it was in Belgrade, obviously.

So, why I'm confident: Most of the times Klopp has Poch's number. I think we lost just one game, and that was that shit Lovren game.
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #878 on: May 16, 2019, 12:54:34 PM »

Blaming training camps for illness or poor form is a massive red herring.
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Re: European Cup Final 1/6/19. LFC v THFC
« Reply #879 on: May 16, 2019, 12:58:36 PM »
1992 FA cup final against against Sunderland was fairly comfortable.

We should sign Aguero then.
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