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"Blood on the streets"
« on: March 15, 2019, 09:36:58 AM »
I've been seeing this phrase more and more often in response to Brexit where rabid far-right Brexit loonies are stamping their feet and saying if they don't get their way there will be "Blood on the streets" and the like.

Obviously these people look like they have mental issues, but where is this coming from? What grown person would be posting things like this on Facebook/Twitter when they are endorsing rioting, criminal acts, violence and perhaps murder?
Brexit. As stupid as you can imagine.

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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2019, 09:51:40 AM »
I've been seeing this phrase more and more often in response to Brexit where rabid far-right Brexit loonies are stamping their feet and saying if they don't get their way there will be "Blood on the streets" and the like.

Obviously these people look like they have mental issues, but where is this coming from? What grown person would be posting things like this on Facebook/Twitter when they are endorsing rioting, criminal acts, violence and perhaps murder?
I said to Paul last night that there'll be a civil war because of Brexit.  The divisions are growing, the hatred no longer hidden or kept behind closed doors, its brazen now.

I unfortunately live in South Yorkshire and I'm ashamed at the amount of racism I'm hearing and witnessing on a daily basis.  I'm almost scared to speak out now.

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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2019, 09:55:04 AM »
There won't be a 'civil war' because of "brexit". We don't do civil disobedience in the UK anymore. Strictly, stupid cooking programmes, soap-operas, beer, social media etc are all people really care about.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2019, 10:05:33 AM »
I actually said this to a mate at work last week, not as a threat or call-to-arms, but as a genuine fear. There are so many ignorant people out there it is genuinely frightening.

What really grates is that the far-right appear to be using Brexit as a tool to condemn other unassociated issues. As Debs correctly says, there is so much racism it is sickening. And not just aimed at those they consider a terrorist threat but people from other EU countries. The total irony is that they often quote the Second World War as some form of barometer with which to gauge how Britain can stand alone, without realising that the very people they are so against are the same ones who stood by our side during that period.

What worries me is who is behind these people? I doubt very much that Darren from Oldham has the brains to orchestrate an uprising. Tommy Robinson is just a mouth-piece but for who?

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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2019, 10:18:14 AM »
I'm not sure anyone is "leading" it as such Jed, maybe someone will see an opportunity and take the lead if it's not squashed first.

It's been more a drip, drip effect started by the likes of Farage, Robinson etc who planted the seeds, fed and watered it in the guise of Brexit then stood back to see how much "support" there was.

It's the brazenness of it now, like because of Brexit it's ok to say what you think in open conversation.

It's getting scary.

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2019, 10:30:17 AM »
What civil war are the 60 year olds actually going to be able to muster. Nothing of any significance will happen. We are not the French or Italians.

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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2019, 10:30:22 AM »
It's the brazenness of it now, like because of Brexit it's ok to say what you think in open conversation.
I know what you mean, but that’s a terrifying way of putting it.  The problem is people thinking this stuff, not that they’re saying it out loud.  A society can’t rely on self-suppression to sort it out, you have to take on the ideas directly.

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2019, 10:35:08 AM »
We've had 30/40 years of the right-wing media's propaganda war to portray the EU and immigration in general as the cause of all Britain's ills. People say they take no notice of the media, but countless studies demonstrate that it does have an impact.

As wealth inequality has surged since the 80s, the job sector has transformed towards the McJob culture meaning there's fewer and fewer decent-paying opportunities for especially for the 'D demographic'. The result is anger and bitterness, amplified by a consumer culture that bombards with messages of you not having a worthwhile existence if you don't have a great car/super house/designer clothes/expensive perfume/exotic holidays.

They're easy pickings for a loose collective elite of right-wingers, misty-eyed nationalists, and those who'd financially benefit from being outside the EU (especially to escape increasingly effective EU tax & money laundering regulations)

But I do think talk of civil insurrection if Brexit doesn't happen is scaremongering hyperbole, primarily designed to influence public opinion away from wanting to stop Brexit.

Saying that, I think I'd get some ironic pleasure in cheering on riot-geared Plod as they knock the heads of the sort of gammon wanker who would cheer on the police when striking miners or protesting students were getting the shit kicked out of them.
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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2019, 10:38:32 AM »
What civil war are the 60 year olds actually going to be able to muster. Nothing of any significance will happen. We are not the French or Italians.

Exactly. We are in general a bunch of subservient sheep.
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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2019, 10:55:11 AM »
What civil war are the 60 year olds actually going to be able to muster. Nothing of any significance will happen. We are not the French or Italians.
I dont get the reference to 60yr olds?

As far as I'm aware racism doesn't have an age restriction and the vast majority of the racism I'm experiencing is coming from a much younger demographic.

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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2019, 10:58:42 AM »
I know what you mean, but that’s a terrifying way of putting it.  The problem is people thinking this stuff, not that they’re saying it out loud.  A society can’t rely on self-suppression to sort it out, you have to take on the ideas directly.
How do you though when it's pretty much a 50/50 split?

This isn't a minority raising its ugly head, the country is evenly split on pretty much everything and the divisions are growing.

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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2019, 10:59:02 AM »
I dont get the reference to 60yr olds?

As far as I'm aware racism doesn't have an age restriction and the vast majority of the racism I'm experiencing is coming from a much younger demographic.

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correct its this bogus illusion that all the xenophobes who support brexit must be silver surfers. The problem is far deeper that that in this country and covers all ages and the  bigotry gets passed down from generation to generation.

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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2019, 10:59:43 AM »
I dont get the reference to 60yr olds?

As far as I'm aware racism doesn't have an age restriction and the vast majority of the racism I'm experiencing is coming from a much younger demographic.

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I think the point is that the “betrayed” narrative is coming from the Leave contingent, who are predominantly the 55 and over brigade (considering the polling for 18-35 regularly polls in favour of Remain in the mid-70s) so the notion that pensioners will be on the streets causing mayhem is laughable.

They’ll be a handful of incidents involving younger lads whipped up by that midget, fascist c*nt Yaxley-Lennon and the yellow vest mouthbreathers but fuck all major social unrest will happen. All the talk of “millions on the streets” is bollocks.
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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2019, 11:02:47 AM »
Strictly, stupid cooking programmes, soap-operas, beer, social media etc are all people really care about.
Not all people.

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2019, 11:14:55 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2019, 11:32:20 AM »
correct its this bogus illusion that all the xenophobes who support brexit must be silver surfers. The problem is far deeper that that in this country and covers all ages and the  bigotry gets passed down from generation to generation.

Hear, hear.

If some of the generalised prejudicial comments on here about older voters were made about any other groups in the country there would be outrage.

You don't become a racist when you pass sixty.

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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2019, 12:01:19 PM »
Where I live its predominantly a younger demographic stirring racial shit and who pushed for Brexit.

Maybe other parts of the UK it's different.

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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2019, 12:02:23 PM »
correct its this bogus illusion that all the xenophobes who support brexit must be silver surfers. The problem is far deeper that that in this country and covers all ages and the  bigotry gets passed down from generation to generation.
Certainly is where I am.

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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2019, 12:17:14 PM »
You don't become a racist when you pass sixty.

You also don't become racist just because you voted Brexit.


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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2019, 12:33:38 PM »
You also don't become racist just because you voted Brexit.

Agreed.

You don't "become"
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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2019, 12:53:54 PM »
You also don't become racist just because you voted Brexit.



lol yeah right.

Brexit. As stupid as you can imagine.

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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2019, 12:58:26 PM »
You also don't become racist just because you voted Brexit.



True. They were racists long before they decided to vote for Brexit.
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2019, 01:09:23 PM »
No one is saying all 55+ year olds are racists, or voted Brexit. I understand its easy to become defensive if you are in that age group and it can seem that way. All evidence says that the majority of Brexit voters are in that age group, that is all people are saying.

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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2019, 01:30:53 PM »
There won't be a 'civil war' because of "brexit". We don't do civil disobedience in the UK anymore. Strictly, stupid cooking programmes, soap-operas, beer, social media etc are all people really care about.

That's so true. Britain is too divided and apathetic to really stand up for anything anymore.

Even the last riots in this country had no real motive other than recreational destruction and the looting of designer goods.

This country has sat on its arse and watched the Tories dismantle it and has done absolutely nothing about it at all. We're all too busy squabbling with each other on social media.

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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2019, 01:43:25 PM »
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Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
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A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
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And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
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Re: "Blood on the streets"
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2019, 01:51:25 PM »
Hear, hear.

If some of the generalised prejudicial comments on here about older voters were made about any other groups in the country there would be outrage.

You don't become a racist when you pass sixty.

Its the youth and younger adults that cause the greatest damage. If there has to be civil war then it would be them who cause the trouble.

People can deny it but the majority of those over 55 who vote decided to vote for Brexit. Thus they are the biggest constituency.

However, the problem for the likes of Farage is that constituencies like that dont do mass protest or civil war. Therefore the idea that we will have a civil war because Brexit is denied is laughable.

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« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2019, 02:25:16 PM »
Is it possible that those opposed to Brexit will sit back and allow the gloating and further persecution of non white/non British communities to continue a pace?

Can you really see the recent spate of attacks, verbal and physical, disappear?

I can only see it getting worse.



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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2019, 02:41:56 PM »
I said to Paul last night that there'll be a civil war because of Brexit.  The divisions are growing, the hatred no longer hidden or kept behind closed doors, its brazen now.

I unfortunately live in South Yorkshire and I'm ashamed at the amount of racism I'm hearing and witnessing on a daily basis.  I'm almost scared to speak out now.

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« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2019, 02:50:29 PM »
Brexit enabled the racists and the thugs. is it any surprise to see Tommy Robinson on the scene now.
Nasty horrible people with a political argument to be nasty and horrible.
Our politicians don't fear blood on the streets, they will stamp that out no problem.
They fear loosing their seats. they fear having to face nasty horrible thugs like this ba... below
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« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2019, 03:04:23 PM »
The total irony is that they often quote the Second World War as some form of barometer

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« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2019, 03:21:39 PM »
Brexit enabled the racists and the thugs. is it any surprise to see Tommy Robinson on the scene now.
Nasty horrible people with a political argument to be nasty and horrible.
Our politicians don't fear blood on the streets, they will stamp that out no problem.
They fear loosing their seats. they fear having to face nasty horrible thugs like this ba... below
https://twitter.com/Cornwall4EU/status/1106529909860696064

Hope he does go on a riot, I'd love to see the plod kicking fuck out of him.

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« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2019, 03:24:34 PM »
Hope he does go on a riot, I'd love to see the plod kicking fuck out of him.
Wouldn't mind seeing it myself. deliberately trying to provoke a reaction from the peaceful remain protest. all the thugs lined up ready to pile in if they started pushing him away.
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« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2019, 03:29:16 PM »
The Leave vote was bought by crooks, tax cheats, & the Russian State, - who don’t want Britain to have to implement the EU’s transpaency laws. London remains the money laundering capital of the world, and half of London is owned by drug barrons, gun runners, the Russian Mafia/Putin, and numerous shady Yanks. Staying in the EU would imperil their loot, so investing Leave campaign lies is a good investment. (Putin’s interest also includes weakening Europe - divide and rule, which served Rome so well)

If you are still a leaver after the last 2 years of absolute fiasco, you’re either a crook or as thick as two short planks - and which of those defintions covers Fox, Johnson, Davis, Rees-t~~t, et al is for you to decide - but you can be guaranteed they’ll end of richer still because of it. 
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« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2019, 03:40:34 PM »
Whilst there maybe a few demonstrations, the public are generally too lazy or pre-occupied in their own activities for large scale civil disobedience. Even their right to leave demonstrations, attract a handful of individuals

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« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2019, 03:43:22 PM »
The Leave vote was bought by crooks, tax cheats, & the Russian State, - who don’t want Britain to have to implement the EU’s transpaency laws. London remains the money laundering capital of the world, and half of London is owned by drug barrons, gun runners, the Russian Mafia/Putin, and numerous shady Yanks. Staying in the EU would imperil their loot, so investing Leave campaign lies is a good investment.

Exactly.

Though not all Leave politicians have that as there motive. Some are just nostalgia-soaked nationalist cretins.



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« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2019, 03:55:35 PM »
I hope you're all right with your confidence on this cos I just cant see it.

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« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2019, 04:00:13 PM »
True. They were racists long before they decided to vote for Brexit.

 ;D

Well that's one way of looking at it.

It's not true, but it is amusing nonetheless.

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« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2019, 04:12:56 PM »
;D

Well that's one way of looking at it.

It's not true, but it is amusing nonetheless.


Can we agree that anyone calling for blood on the streets were racist long before Brexit ?



They always think that their tough but the likes of Robinson are the first to run and hide behind the cops.
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« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2019, 04:29:45 PM »

Can we agree that anyone calling for blood on the streets were racist long before Brexit ?



They always think that their tough but the likes of Robinson are the first to run and hide behind the cops.

Absolutely.

People like that would find something else to be frenzied about, if not Brexit, they just have it in them. There will always be a percentage of people that are beyond any form of redemption.

Brexit is just a lovely excuse for them.

I am sick of reading and hearing "will of the people", it has certainly become a battle cry, four words that trump any argument and are impervious to facts because this isn't about facts.

 

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« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2019, 05:24:53 PM »
I hope you're all right with your confidence on this cos I just cant see it.

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You might get a few thousand knobheads across the country, but from the Leavers I know, they fall into the following categories :-

Retired
Thick as pig shit (My Dad)
Working and paying Mortgages so won't risk losing their jobs
Didn't really know what they were voting for, wouldn't vote again
In a nursing home with Dementia/Alzheimers

I really don't worry about riots, but I worry that immigrants will be targeted, although this would happen if we left anyway, in fact it would be a lot worse as we started to see more immigrants from the likes of Asia, Africa and India.

From my own personal experiences, I'd much rather be served in a restaurant by a smiling, polite waitress from Eastern Europe than a miserable twat British girl.