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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2320 on: January 6, 2019, 05:54:16 PM »



Everybody knows that it is thongs that attract sharks.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2321 on: January 6, 2019, 06:01:13 PM »
Mate I've had this tedious debate with someone on here before the CL final, and no offense I am no arsed going down that route again. There is plenty of evidence out there for you too look into, there is even a thread about it that you can look up on here in where we discussed this.

That has nothing to do with Ramadan and everything to do with the lack of overall quality that those countries have in their side. Senegal didnt miss out because of Ramadan, but because of number of yellow cards they received compared to Japan who got through


Mate, obviously I did not see that debate.
The last time Ramadan coincided with the important end of the season was more than 30 years ago. I don't know what ways are around the fasting rules, but not drinking and eating during daylight would mean fasting for 15 hours every effing day in May, and I see no way that wouldn't hinder preparation for football matches. Rehydration is essential in every training session. Last year it was mentioned that Salah could 'suspend Ramadan' for two days (the CL final and the day before) because of travel. Otherwise, I am quite ignorant of the exact rules and would very much like to know more. Like, why nobody mentioned Mané?
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2322 on: January 6, 2019, 06:03:11 PM »

Thanks, I am perfectly aware of that fact.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2323 on: January 6, 2019, 06:10:18 PM »
Mate, obviously I did not see that debate.
The last time Ramadan coincided with the important end of the season was more than 30 years ago. I don't know what ways are around the fasting rules, but not drinking and eating during daylight would mean fasting for 15 hours every effing day in May, and I see no way that wouldn't hinder preparation for football matches. Rehydration is essential in every training session. Last year it was mentioned that Salah could 'suspend Ramadan' for two days (the CL final and the day before) because of travel. Otherwise, I am quite ignorant of the exact rules and would very much like to know more. Like, why nobody mentioned Mané?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3yvhf2/hakeem_olajuwon_during_ramadan_an_analysis/

Here's an interesting read about Hakeem Olajuwon, one of the greatest basketball players ever. To summarise, he converted to Islam halfway through his career and there was no discernible trend on his performances, other than his team actually winning more during Ramadan.

In the comments, there's a mention of how Islamic scholars permitted the Algerian football team to postpone their fasting until after the 2014 WC, with the reason given that football being their primary income.

Islam is complex and personal, peoples' adherence to various rules differs based on their culture and their personal beliefs. I don't know how our players treat fasting whilst playing but it's not something that anybody should be worrying about. Even if it does affect performances, it's the players' decision on how to approach this issue, and it's the same players we idolise on a regular basis.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2324 on: January 6, 2019, 06:24:38 PM »

So sharks aren't Muslim. That's quite interesting.

Just aswell, they’d have a Hell of a time getting halal meat.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2325 on: January 6, 2019, 06:34:04 PM »
is it arrogant and disrespectful of me to have my eyes firmly fixed on 3pm next satdee?  Yes, i am stimulated by a good game and win tomorrow but I am just wishing away the days to our next league fixture.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2326 on: January 6, 2019, 06:37:01 PM »
If that's true then I'm happy obviously, do you have any article that you could link to support it?
What I've seen last year was that 0 countries progressed from their group in Russia that can be considered Muslim. The World Cup started on the last day of Ramadan.

Err... That's maybe because they aren't among the best teams in the World.

Final group standings with FIFA rankings:

Uruguay (7), Russia (48), Saudi Arabia (69), Egypt (56)
Spain (9), Portugal (6), Iran (29), Morocco (40)
France (2), Denmark (10), Peru, Australia
Croatia (4), Argentina (11), Nigeria, Iceland
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Sweden (14), Mexico (17), Korea, Germany (16)
Belgium (1), England (5), Tunisia (26), Panama
Colombia (12), Japan (50), Senegal (23), Poland

Didn't qualify: Chile (13), Netherlands (14)

It's not Ramadan - it's not being very good. The largest, richest and most successful countries are in Europe and South America and 15 of the 16 who qualified from the group are from those those associations.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2327 on: January 6, 2019, 06:40:09 PM »


Also - did you know that most murders occur in the two weeks before and the two weeks after a full moon?
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2328 on: January 6, 2019, 06:43:14 PM »
They certainly seem to like ice cream.
Or maybe they don't,  hence the increase in attacks on the ice cream eating beach dwellers.
Why are Muslims eating ice cream on shark infested beaches during Ramadan?
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2329 on: January 6, 2019, 06:47:13 PM »
Also - did you know that most murders occur in the two weeks before and the two weeks after a full moon?
Are we talking about shark attacks? Is a fatality from a shark attack murder? I don't know  ???

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« Reply #2330 on: January 6, 2019, 06:51:54 PM »
Mate, obviously I did not see that debate.
The last time Ramadan coincided with the important end of the season was more than 30 years ago. I don't know what ways are around the fasting rules, but not drinking and eating during daylight would mean fasting for 15 hours every effing day in May, and I see no way that wouldn't hinder preparation for football matches. Rehydration is essential in every training session. Last year it was mentioned that Salah could 'suspend Ramadan' for two days (the CL final and the day before) because of travel. Otherwise, I am quite ignorant of the exact rules and would very much like to know more. Like, why nobody mentioned Mané?

Like I said it has been mentioned and it was discussed at large. I provided quite several articles about professional athletes being successful whilst fasting. As I mentioned I'd suggest you look for that particular topic or just google athletes and fasting, and you'll have a pretty good idea

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2331 on: January 6, 2019, 06:52:13 PM »
Why are Muslims eating ice cream on shark infested beaches during Ramadan?

While wearing thongs.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2332 on: January 6, 2019, 07:00:34 PM »
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2333 on: January 6, 2019, 07:03:56 PM »
So sharks aren't Muslim. That's quite interesting.

But is the icecream halal?

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2334 on: January 6, 2019, 08:07:58 PM »

Everybody knows that it is thongs that attract sharks.

Well, don't thing then! ;)
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« Reply #2335 on: January 6, 2019, 08:34:05 PM »
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Sorry, I just find this funny when people talk about jinxes etc. You really think your words are so powerful that posting them on here will affect the game?

You should watch a game in my house. It's like a shamanic temple there's that many rituals.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2336 on: January 6, 2019, 08:39:06 PM »
You should watch a game in my house. It's like a shamanic temple there's that many rituals.

Still haven't set foot again in the pub where I watched the Chelsea match in 13/14, used to be a sort of regular there and all. Then again, I'm Italian, we take our superstitions quite seriously  ;D
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2337 on: January 6, 2019, 08:40:35 PM »
Still haven't set foot again in the pub where I watched the Chelsea match in 13/14, used to be a sort of regular there and all. Then again, I'm Italian, we take our superstitions quite seriously  ;D

I watched that game at home. I shit you not, about five minutes before kick off there was a bit of a commotion outside and a banging at the window. Looked up and there was a magpie tapping at the glass. I still blame that c*nt for what happened next.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2338 on: January 6, 2019, 08:44:52 PM »
I watched that game at home. I shit you not, about five minutes before kick off there was a bit of a commotion outside and a banging at the window. Looked up and there was a magpie tapping at the glass. I still blame that c*nt for what happened next.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2340 on: January 6, 2019, 08:50:36 PM »
I watched that game at home. I shit you not, about five minutes before kick off there was a bit of a commotion outside and a banging at the window. Looked up and there was a magpie tapping at the glass. I still blame that c*nt for what happened next.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2341 on: January 7, 2019, 07:19:28 AM »
I watched that game at home. I shit you not, about five minutes before kick off there was a bit of a commotion outside and a banging at the window. Looked up and there was a magpie tapping at the glass. I still blame that c*nt for what happened next.

If you had said Good evening Mr Magpie we would have been fine. It was your own pomposity about being better than the magpie and not giving him the proper salutation that caused the result. Your fault.

I have some big match routines but I will not share them on here.....talk of clipping arse hair and shaving corns on feet can put people off me I find.

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« Reply #2342 on: January 7, 2019, 09:11:13 AM »
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Sorry, I just find this funny when people talk about jinxes etc. You really think your words are so powerful that posting them on here will affect the game?

Hahahaha this

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« Reply #2343 on: January 7, 2019, 09:28:21 AM »
You know we have all these CL omens? This year, for the League we can make it 2019 and next 2020  ;)

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« Reply #2344 on: January 7, 2019, 02:09:55 PM »
You know we have all these CL omens? This year, for the League we can make it 2019 and next 2020  ;)

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« Reply #2345 on: January 8, 2019, 01:35:25 AM »
Not sure if it was wise to let Clyne go on loan when we are short at the back. Unless we are in pursuit of someone or Klopp is eager to promote one of the youngsters?

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« Reply #2346 on: January 8, 2019, 02:51:55 AM »
Not sure if it was wise to let Clyne go on loan when we are short at the back. Unless we are in pursuit of someone or Klopp is eager to promote one of the youngsters?

We're not short of options at fullback. We're short of options at CB and Clyne can't help us there

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« Reply #2347 on: January 8, 2019, 03:04:10 AM »
If you had said Good evening Mr Magpie we would have been fine. It was your own pomposity about being better than the magpie and not giving him the proper salutation that caused the result. Your fault.

I have some big match routines but I will not share them on here.....talk of clipping arse hair and shaving corns on feet can put people off me I find.
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« Reply #2348 on: January 8, 2019, 05:25:02 AM »
It's taken one loss to derail this thread and start the bedwetting..

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2349 on: January 8, 2019, 05:32:54 AM »
We're not short of options at fullback. We're short of options at CB and Clyne can't help us there

Are the options good enough though, Camacho is a kid and didn't look like a natural fullback last night.

We have done fantastic in the league so far but it's clear from the changes us and City made in the cup their squad is much stronger than ours.
Should have kept Clyne.
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« Reply #2350 on: January 8, 2019, 06:12:03 AM »
Are the options good enough though, Camacho is a kid and didn't look like a natural fullback last night.

We have done fantastic in the league so far but it's clear from the changes us and City made in the cup their squad is much stronger than ours.
Should have kept Clyne.
For RB, it goes Trent, Gomez or Milner, then can pick from one of Camacho, Hoever, Fabinho, possibly play Henderson their also.
For LB it goes Robinson then Moreno or Milner, after that Lewis or play somebody else can play FB on their off side, considering the Fullbacks are the width so it preferable to have left footer their.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2351 on: January 8, 2019, 06:32:22 AM »
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« Reply #2352 on: January 8, 2019, 06:39:19 AM »
For RB, it goes Trent, Gomez or Milner, then can pick from one of Camacho, Hoever, Fabinho, possibly play Henderson their also.
For LB it goes Robinson then Moreno or Milner, after that Lewis or play somebody else can play FB on their off side, considering the Fullbacks are the width so it preferable to have left footer their.
Is that Depth not enough?

Henderson at right back, Milner at left back? Why not just play Mo there?

Moreno doesn’t want to be here, and simply isn’t good enough.

Depth of quality, no, potential maybe yes with the young kids. We should have kept Clyne, till the summer anyway. He can play both sides and has the experience, plus quality.

We are reliant on our first choice players remaining fit.
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« Reply #2353 on: January 8, 2019, 07:11:04 AM »
Henderson at right back, Milner at left back? Why not just play Mo there?

Moreno doesn’t want to be here, and simply isn’t good enough.

Depth of quality, no, potential maybe yes with the young kids. We should have kept Clyne, till the summer anyway. He can play both sides and has the experience, plus quality.

We are reliant on our first choice players remaining fit.
Fair enough. Why would we play a our best goal scorer in a place to provide width
Henderson was clearly low on cover at rb on their for me. Milner played LB after moreno was taken off in burnley, he played their before. however Klopp will prefer a left footer. Moreno can cover vs lower teams, obvious he unlikely to return and will get replaced after the year, I doubt that will be fixed during the middle of the season.
Klopp thought their was enough depth to cover at both spots, you can have a difference of opinion though.

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« Reply #2354 on: January 8, 2019, 07:23:24 AM »
Fair enough. Why would we play a our best goal scorer in a place to provide width
Henderson was clearly low on cover at rb on their for me. Milner played LB after moreno was taken off in burnley, he played their before. however Klopp will prefer a left footer. Moreno can cover vs lower teams, obvious he unlikely to return and will get replaced after the year, I doubt that will be fixed during the middle of the season.
Klopp thought their was enough depth to cover at both spots, you can have a difference of opinion though.

Fair enough, clearly when we are at full strength our defence is strong, that’s proven this season.
When Robbo or Van Dijk aren’t available it’s a problem, Gomez being injured is problematic as like you say he can cover right back also.
Keeping Clyne would have been better, maybe he insisted on leaving, we just lack a bit of quality and experience in reserve.
Moreno will no doubt be replaced in the summer.
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« Reply #2355 on: January 8, 2019, 07:24:06 AM »
I look at the options this year and the options last year, and I'm pretty damn happy. We didn't have great first options on the field, now we do have great options on the bench when everyone's fit. Sure, we have to content with injuries, but that's life. So, for RB we have Trent, then Gomez, we have Fabinho who plays there for Brasil. Milner can fit in for Robbo when needed, and even Albie is not that bad now and then, whether he's ready to play or not.

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« Reply #2356 on: January 8, 2019, 07:28:27 AM »
is it arrogant and disrespectful of me to have my eyes firmly fixed on 3pm next satdee?  Yes, i am stimulated by a good game and win tomorrow but I am just wishing away the days to our next league fixture.

Not at all. Forget the FA Cup - I would happily trade two heavy defeats to Bayern in the CL in exchange for six EPL points.

Nothing matters more than winning the title. Not least to finally shut everyone up - especially those glory-seeking plastics from Chelsea and City - never mind the United fans. Do we really want to be the only team to be top of EPL in the New Year and not finish winners - not once but three times?? F*%k that.

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« Reply #2357 on: January 8, 2019, 07:42:42 AM »
Not at all. Forget the FA Cup - I would happily trade two heavy defeats to Bayern in the CL in exchange for six EPL points.

Nothing matters more than winning the title. Not least to finally shut everyone up - especially those glory-seeking plastics from Chelsea and City - never mind the United fans. Do we really want to be the only team to be top of EPL in the New Year and not finish winners - not once but three times?? F*%k that.

We have the time to conentrate on both the comptitions we are still in now, we don't have to choose one over the other.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2358 on: January 8, 2019, 07:55:16 AM »
Why are Muslims eating ice cream on shark infested beaches during Ramadan?

When it coincides with the twice monthly African Nations Cup, it's acceptable.
While wearing thongs.
That is the general attire during that time.
Mankinis
But this is the preferred name.

If there is a silver lining to getting knocked out of the domestic cups, it's that our focus becomes more streamlined.
I think in time we'll have the squad depth to compete in so many competitions whilst still maintaining momentum, but it looks like we've just about built a strong starting team and bench that can compete for a league title and make some headway in Europe, anything else becomes an additional risk for injuries and distractions.
We seem to really bounce back well from losses over the current and past season, so I think these past two losses won't just keep our players focused and more determined, the additional bonus is the media can get off our bandwagon and allow us to quietly go about our business. It's been slightly annoying since around mid December reading and watching the over the top hype about our "sudden" title challenge. In reality, it was City that dropped away, but we've been consistently picking up points since the start of the year, and that's what we'll keep doing. We haven't been in a rich vein of form, it's just we've been patient and strong enough to keep clean sheets and score decisive goals.
Feels very different than our run in the 2013-14 season.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2359 on: January 8, 2019, 08:02:07 AM »
With no domestic cup to worry about we can fully concentrate on the title and CL now. Meanwhile, City are still in all four competition, I hope they go deep in all the cups route and injury, fatigue, match preparation, travel time, etc. will become a matter for them in the title race.
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