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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2240 on: January 4, 2019, 04:17:43 PM »
Just seen two Arsenal mates at work for the first time since before Christmas, expecting them to be a bit sheepish after the 5-1. Met with choruses of "You're not invincible!".

I think the anti-Liverpool noise is more pronounced online than I experience in day to day reality.

Got a mate (arsenal fan) that would rather us win the league but wanted us to lose yesterday just because of the invincible possibility.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2241 on: January 4, 2019, 05:11:23 PM »
Urgh, Arsenal.  Man City was beaten a couple of times last year but it didn't stop them trouncing the "invincibles" points tally.

We took six points off United back in 08-09 and it didn't stop them beating us to the title, so we'll see how things fall after City finish patting themselves on the back.  What's important to us now is how we respond - that will show if we have the stomach for this fight.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2242 on: January 4, 2019, 06:02:37 PM »
Play  / Fabinho / Keita more regularly - less Hendo

Give the captaincy to Van Dijk

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2243 on: January 4, 2019, 07:12:09 PM »
There is absolutely no reason why we cannot beat any of those teams you are currently trying to build up. Also City had to go deep into themselves last night to beat us at all. The stats for both teams had very little difference. They are also having to push their injured players into playing earlier than they would have liked. Which is why the likes of KDB was sitting on the subs bench rather than starting the game. There is no reason to suppose we cannot have another positive run. There is plenty left in the tank, our hardest games are behind us. We just go on doing what we've done up to now.
Not suggesting that we cannot go on another run, I just don’t agree that they have a difficult next 5, or that we have an easier run in. We have essentially the same top teams to play bar them having a home banker against Arsenal.

City having to dig deep to beat us is supposed to be a consolation? We lost, but hey look how hard they tried or how they respected us... absolutely no fucks given about what City think of us. I’m sure they respect us as much as we respect them. We are not plucky underdogs any more, we gone toe to toe with them for a while now. City or their fans reaction should not matter.


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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2244 on: January 4, 2019, 07:19:31 PM »
Not suggesting that we cannot go on another run, I just don’t agree that they have a difficult next 5, or that we have an easier run in. We have essentially the same top teams to play bar them having a home banker against Arsenal.

City having to dig deep to beat us is supposed to be a consolation? We lost, but hey look how hard they tried or how they respected us... absolutely no fucks given about what City think of us. I’m sure they respect us as much as we respect them. We are not plucky underdogs any more, we gone toe to toe with them for a while now. City or their fans reaction should not matter.


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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2245 on: January 4, 2019, 08:02:36 PM »
It's a league cup weekend.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2246 on: January 4, 2019, 09:23:38 PM »
Play  / Fabinho / Keita more regularly - less Hendo

Give the captaincy to Van Dijk

Kick on

Genius idea - demoralise one of our midfielders and pass the armband to someone who doesn't need it and leads by example anyway.

Van Dijk will be captain at some point but he doesn't need an armband now and whether you like it or not we will need Henderson for the rest of the season. He does a good job on and especially off the pitch as captain.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2247 on: January 4, 2019, 09:26:58 PM »
Genius idea - demoralise one of our midfielders and pass the armband to someone who doesn't need it and leads by example anyway.

Van Dijk will be captain at some point but he doesn't need an armband now and whether you like it or not we will need Henderson for the rest of the season. He does a good job on and especially off the pitch as captain.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2248 on: January 4, 2019, 09:29:24 PM »
I remember watching an interview with Ranieri talking about the miracle. It was the new year game the season they won the title. Arsenal were lurking around and fancied they could make a go of it. Playing at the Emirates and Arsenal won with a last minute winner. Leicester remained top but were defeated. But Ranieri says it was the moment he first believed they could win the league. Because they went toe to toe with an Arsenal team and only just lost.

I think this can stand for our defeat too. The champions gave every atom they had, stretched themselves, and just beat us. The best they had they threw at us and we're still ahead. We can win this. We can win this.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2249 on: January 4, 2019, 10:04:19 PM »
I think he's mature enough to take it.

Small margins mate. You 'think' he might be ok with it. We are going to have a second half of the season to match the first half and you want to take a knock at one of our senior midfielders?
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2250 on: January 4, 2019, 10:07:17 PM »
I remember watching an interview with Ranieri talking about the miracle. It was the new year game the season they won the title. Arsenal were lurking around and fancied they could make a go of it. Playing at the Emirates and Arsenal won with a last minute winner. Leicester remained top but were defeated. But Ranieri says it was the moment he first believed they could win the league. Because they went toe to toe with an Arsenal team and only just lost.

I think this can stand for our defeat too. The champions gave every atom they had, stretched themselves, and just beat us. The best they had they threw at us and we're still ahead. We can win this. We can win this.

yeah, it's something we can definitely do. Leicester went on an unbeaten run after that result (which wasn't New Years', it was February 16th) including bouncing immediately back against Norwich, then drawing against WBA, and then 5 wins on the trot (against Watford, Newcastle, Crystal Palace, Southampton and Sunderland) until thew drew with West Ham.

They got somewhat lucky with their fixtures but they made the most of it, and I'm sure we can too.

Then again, they also got "a bit of help" from their close pursuers: Arsenal went inconsistent after that Leicester win (losing against ManUtd and fucking Swansea, then drawing against Spurs and then an unbeaten run that combined 5 wins and 4 draws) and Spurs spursed it after a while (they were going close, then lost against West Ham and drew with Arsenal, and after that came an unbeaten run with 4 wins and 3 draws). So... apart from Leicester seizing the chance, running with it and making sure the gap stayed in place, it also helped that both 2nd and 3rd places lost some pretty surprising points along the way - I mean, by the time Spurs drew with Chelsea (May 2) and gave Leicester the title, the gap had grown to seven points.

I hope ManCity does too.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2251 on: January 4, 2019, 10:39:07 PM »
Well I hope the loss makes our boys angry... real angry. Like so angry that every team we play will realize that its not wise to make us angry. Its what could make us champions if it spurs us on to make sure we don't get beaten again
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« Reply #2252 on: January 4, 2019, 11:37:14 PM »
Am fully expecting us to rest a fair few of the first team for Monday. Possibly as many as 7 or 8 then next weekend will be the start of another winning run in the league.

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« Reply #2253 on: January 5, 2019, 12:13:59 AM »
Seen a few city lot trying to ramp up the pressure on us..

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« Reply #2254 on: January 5, 2019, 12:16:59 AM »
Well I hope the loss makes our boys angry... real angry. Like so angry that every team we play will realize that its not wise to make us angry. Its what could make us champions if it spurs us on to make sure we don't get beaten again

There’s a pic doing the rounds of silva and aguero eyeing up mo at the full time whistle. They look concerned by his expression. Mo Salah is not fucking around this year and neither are most of the team. Win the next 10 and we will run away with it.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2255 on: January 5, 2019, 12:36:41 AM »
Seen a few city lot trying to ramp up the pressure on us..

Keep the comments coming lads.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2256 on: January 5, 2019, 01:54:14 AM »
The lads sound confident and fully focused, as does the manager. Can't wait to see our reaction against Brighton

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« Reply #2257 on: January 5, 2019, 11:20:31 AM »
I had thought before the city game that we were likely to get beaten, simply because city couldn't afford to lose and the ref selection ☺

It didn't bother me too much because my thoughts were that the title will be decided by how we react to this defeat. This is now the true test of this team and will be when we find out if this time will be different.

City will get a massive boost from the win, and they now have de bruyne, Silva, and fernandinho all back. I can't see them losing anymore games.

The next month or so is massive for us and klopp will have to make sure that our prep is absolutely spot on. We will now see how the team react and whether we have what it takes for a league title.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2258 on: January 5, 2019, 12:19:39 PM »
I always felt we would get beaten but didn't post for fear of jinxing us. I think teams that know what they have to do compared to teams with something to hold on to nearly always up their game, whilst the latter team is caught in two minds.

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« Reply #2259 on: January 5, 2019, 12:20:52 PM »
City will drop points, they aren't going unbeaten for the remainder of the season.

So take each game as it comes.

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« Reply #2260 on: January 5, 2019, 12:34:02 PM »
City will drop points, they aren't going unbeaten for the remainder of the season.

So take each game as it comes.

If they did they would be deserved winners. From our point of view, we need to match or better their results week in week out. We do that and even if they win their remaining 17 games we'll still be champions.

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« Reply #2261 on: January 5, 2019, 01:00:51 PM »
I think City have the best squad, we just have to regroup and win at Brighton to get back on track.
They have done it before so it will be a real test for us, they also have the momentum after the other night, bouncing back in the next game is vital.

Both of us have tough games and will drop points. We need to keep our key players fit and just hope we ae good enough.

When I saw our midfield I wasn't overly confident on thursday, Fabinho should have played, team selection will be important.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2262 on: January 5, 2019, 01:07:28 PM »
I think there are some factors a little in our favor;
1. Keita, Fabinho and Shaq are going to be relatively fresh for the run in because they have been slowly introduced to the side.
2. Will Ox be a breath of fresh air in the final two months of the season?
3. Gomez and Matip to return in a few weeks.
4. We have Sturridge in reserve, pretty much everyone has written him off but he remains a superb striker.
5. City can no longer directly affect our points/GD tally. They can put us under pressure but we don't face them again in the league.

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« Reply #2263 on: January 5, 2019, 01:39:31 PM »
Don't count on Ox, that's unreasonable for us to depend on him in any way shape or form this season. He'll be lucky if he gets a run out for a few minutes let alone to play an actual part in the remainder of the season.



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« Reply #2264 on: January 5, 2019, 02:02:10 PM »
It was inevitable that we lose and just because it was City, it should not harm our overall chances of winning the title as long as we respond correctly. The ball is in our court, most of the teams we play from here on will rarely outwork or outplay us and as long as we give it our best then there will be no complaints. At this stage we have a 17 game schedule with already 4 points more in the bag than anyone else. Its an ideal situation to be in so just break the season down to reachable goals...next game, end of Jan, Feb etc and take it from there. We should be loving the chase and the pressure that goes with it as since they were boys, our players have dreamed of scoring the goal that wins the title.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2265 on: January 5, 2019, 05:55:15 PM »
City will drop points, they aren't going unbeaten for the remainder of the season.

So take each game as it comes.
They dropped 12 in the second half of last season if I recall. Do the same this season and they end up with 89 points. Needed late winners in a few games and had no pressure to speak of. Pep's teams don't always do as well second half of the season as first so there is no 'guarantee' that they will make 95 points as some are suggesting.

Also, we have taken 7 more points in 19 games against the rest of the league than City; that suggests we are a more versatile and consistent team.

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« Reply #2266 on: January 5, 2019, 06:13:03 PM »
Pep's teams don't always do as well second half of the season as first so there is no 'guarantee' that they will make 95 points as some are suggesting.
The expectation at the start of this season was also that City would be too good for any challengers, building up a sizeable lead so that they could focus on the Champions League late in the season, given that that's the owners' goal and Guardiola hasn't won it since 2011. Losing three games in December and having to chase us wasn't in the plan.
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« Reply #2267 on: January 5, 2019, 07:47:51 PM »
I wonder how many of our players will observe Ramadan this year fasting in the week before the game against Wolves. And it's going to get worse with Ramadan every coming year, as Ramadan moves back about 10-12 days every year.
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« Reply #2268 on: January 5, 2019, 07:49:04 PM »
Brighton games going to tell us a lot isnt it? Steam roll them and I think all that momentum City gained from the 2-1 will be lost instantly.

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« Reply #2269 on: January 5, 2019, 08:38:09 PM »
I wonder how many of our players will observe Ramadan this year fasting in the week before the game against Wolves. And it's going to get worse with Ramadan every coming year, as Ramadan moves back about 10-12 days every year.

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« Reply #2270 on: January 5, 2019, 08:43:30 PM »
I am not forgetting that two of Cities' players were competing to get off the pitch when it came time for Guardiola to make a substitution, Aguero and Kompany, both blowing smoke out their arses. That is a very rare thing from our side. The type of conditioning that we practice is seemingly uncommon amongst other premier league teams. I will be amazed if there is no tailing off from city.
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« Reply #2271 on: January 5, 2019, 08:48:03 PM »
I am not forgetting that two of Cities' players were competing to get off the pitch when it came time for Guardiola to make a substitution, Aguero and Kompany, both blowing smoke out their arses. That is a very rare thing from our side. The type of conditioning that we practice is seemingly uncommon amongst other premier league teams. I will be amazed if there is no tailing off from city.

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« Reply #2272 on: January 5, 2019, 08:54:34 PM »
7 wins in a row.
A draw.
5 wins in a row.
A draw.
3 wins in a row.

That could be enough, even if city win every single game. That's an incredible position to be in.
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« Reply #2273 on: January 5, 2019, 08:56:45 PM »
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« Reply #2274 on: January 5, 2019, 09:00:05 PM »
7 wins in a row.
A draw.
5 wins in a row.
A draw.
3 wins in a row.

That could be enough, even if city win every single game. That's an incredible position to be in.

Extrapolated over a full season that would be just shy of 105 points though.
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« Reply #2275 on: January 5, 2019, 09:03:10 PM »
Extrapolated over a full season that would be just shy of 105 points though.

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« Reply #2276 on: January 5, 2019, 09:06:18 PM »
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2277 on: January 5, 2019, 09:06:19 PM »
I wonder how many of our players will observe Ramadan this year fasting in the week before the game against Wolves. And it's going to get worse with Ramadan every coming year, as Ramadan moves back about 10-12 days every year.

Probably just the Muslim ones I'd guess?
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« Reply #2278 on: January 5, 2019, 09:12:12 PM »
Off the top of my head, that'll be Salah, Mane, Shaqiri and Keita. It's just the last two games of the season but as mentioned, Ramadan moves forward 12 days every year so it's going to be a much bigger factor from next season.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #2279 on: January 5, 2019, 09:19:24 PM »
Off the top of my head, that'll be Salah, Mane, Shaqiri and Keita. It's just the last two games of the season but as mentioned, Ramadan moves forward 12 days every year so it's going to be a much bigger factor from next season.

Wouldn’t have thought so, pretty much all the top clubs have got a few Muslim players.
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