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« Reply #2200 on: January 4, 2019, 12:48:39 PM »
Would be an FA cup round between the 19th and 30th?

Damn - that quickly? Didn't realize.

We may not be in the next round of course.

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« Reply #2201 on: January 4, 2019, 01:41:33 PM »
Would be an FA cup round between the 19th and 30th?

It's a league cup weekend.
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« Reply #2202 on: January 4, 2019, 01:42:16 PM »
It's a league cup weekend.

Warm weather training it is!

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« Reply #2203 on: January 4, 2019, 02:06:15 PM »
Just having a little look at the CL quarter finals dates and surrounding fixtures. Obviously City are through as Schalke are pathetic whereas it's much tougher for us but if we make it :

April 9th - 10th CL QF first leg

April 13 Palace - Man City.
April 14 Liverpool - Chelsea. (Chelsea have Europa league on the 11th if they get through so will defo be the Sunday)

April 16/17th CL QF second leg.

April 20th Man City - Tottenham
April 20th Cardiff - Liverpool.

We've def got it a bit kinder there, though that said I'd be absolutely stunned if City didn't get the winner of Porto/Roma in the next round.

That looks really good. If we get to the QF's then against Chelsea, it won't be an issue as we both will be equally as fatigued with Europe, and after the 2nd leg we have Cardiff which is the easiest away game in the PL. They've been really bad against the big teams at home. 

City have a tough one against Palace away and then have Spurs after the 2nd leg. We need Dortmund to knock out Spurs so that they are fresh for the City game.

Saying all this we are the ones who are disadvantaged for the 2nd round. United away will follow the Bayern 1st leg so that will be really tough. Fulham away after the 2nd leg which shouldn't be a problem.

They have a League Cup final after their 1st leg against Schalke. The 2nd leg at home will be a stroll against Schalke so they'll be better prepared for United away (who will have a gruelling away game at PSG that week)

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« Reply #2204 on: January 4, 2019, 02:07:49 PM »
Considering how we've approached the first part of the season, I believe we will be the fittest side in this send part of the season injuries permitting

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« Reply #2205 on: January 4, 2019, 02:10:24 PM »
Considering how we've approached the first part of the season, I believe we will be the fittest side in this send part of the season injuries permitting
We haven't played particularly well in the first half of the season but still top the league, imagine if we fully gear up from now on...
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« Reply #2206 on: January 4, 2019, 02:27:29 PM »
We haven't played particularly well in the first half of the season but still top the league, imagine if we fully gear up from now on...

We have played well, just differently.  But yeah, it would be great to see the front three go on a blitz for a few months.

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« Reply #2207 on: January 4, 2019, 02:31:40 PM »
We haven't played particularly well in the first half of the season but still top the league, imagine if we fully gear up from now on...

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« Reply #2208 on: January 4, 2019, 02:34:59 PM »
We haven't played particularly well in the first half of the season but still top the league, imagine if we fully gear up from now on...

its almost like it was planned ?

i think we played exceptionally well this first half the season, had a bit of luck too.

Im sure others have suggested it but hasn't the plan been to save legs and build fitness till christmas so we dont run out of puff for the run in ?

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« Reply #2209 on: January 4, 2019, 02:38:54 PM »
its almost like it was planned ?

i think we played exceptionally well this first half the season, had a bit of luck too.

Im sure others have suggested it but hasn't the plan been to save legs and build fitness till christmas so we dont run out of puff for the run in ?

Yes I believe so, Klopp touched on that part and the problem with injuries we had in the second half of last season.

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« Reply #2210 on: January 4, 2019, 02:40:16 PM »
We have played well, just differently.  But yeah, it would be great to see the front three go on a blitz for a few months.

Yeah, it's weird how defensively elite is seen as not playing that well by some but if we were winning 5-3 every week instead it'd be seen as amazing performances. We've been great, not our best but great all the same and hopefully higher levels to come at Old Trafford and in the CL.

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« Reply #2211 on: January 4, 2019, 02:41:12 PM »
Someone here wrote that we are not running as much this season as we have been in the last few seasons. I tried to find distance covered statistics to back this up. Could only find this article from skysports from November:
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11552560/premier-league-which-teams-and-players-have-run-the-furthest

Says we are mid-table when it comes to distance covered, but top in sprints. Would have been nice to see data of the last couple of years to compare to this year. For me we look like the freshest team in the league so I don't know wether these stats can indicate anything about our fitness level.

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« Reply #2212 on: January 4, 2019, 02:42:09 PM »
Considering Fabinho and Keita haven't yet cemented their places and been used sparingly, and the front three almost bullet proof, I would say we're in for a fresh second half of the season. Oh yeah, we have a couple of defenders still to come back in!

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« Reply #2213 on: January 4, 2019, 02:50:21 PM »
Someone here wrote that we are not running as much this season as we have been in the last few seasons. I tried to find distance covered statistics to back this up. Could only find this article from skysports from November:
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11552560/premier-league-which-teams-and-players-have-run-the-furthest

Says we are mid-table when it comes to distance covered, but top in sprints. Would have been nice to see data of the last couple of years to compare to this year. For me we look like the freshest team in the league so I don't know wether these stats can indicate anything about our fitness level.

We’re the freshest team in the league partly *because* we havent been running/aggressively pressing as much. It’s going to be key for the run in.
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« Reply #2214 on: January 4, 2019, 02:52:55 PM »
Like I mentioned in the post-match thread, I think we just have too stop looking too far ahead and glancing at the fixtures (I know I do it) and just think about the next game which is Brighton away.

The other thing we need to do is not look at where City might slip up (in terms of each individual game), it always feels crap when teams comes through tests where we think they might drop points. The best example was us against Wolves, lots of fans thought we might drop points whilst they had a home banker vs Palace but it worked out completely differently. Let's just concentrate on ourselves - if we do our jobs they are completely and utterly powerless.

Of course, nothing we do or think as fans makes any difference but sometimes the anxiety from the matchday crowd get filter through to the players.
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« Reply #2215 on: January 4, 2019, 02:56:09 PM »
If you told me after playing City home and away, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs away and we are top of the league with 4 point clear at this stage, I would augh the feck off you. And that is the reality right now!
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« Reply #2216 on: January 4, 2019, 02:58:01 PM »
Like I mentioned in the post-match thread, I think we just have too stop looking too far ahead and glancing at the fixtures (I know I do it) and just think about the next game which is Brighton away.

The other thing we need to do is not look at where City might slip up (in terms of each individual game), it always feels crap when teams comes through tests where we think they might drop points. The best example was us against Wolves, lots of fans thought we might drop points whilst they had a home banker vs Palace but it worked out completely differently. Let's just concentrate on ourselves - if we do our jobs they are completely and utterly powerless.

Of course, nothing we do or think as fans makes any difference but sometimes the anxiety from the matchday crowd get filter through to the players.

The supporters really need to grow a fcking pair. Enjoy the bloody side you're [not you directly] witnessing play on the pitch as it's one of the best we've had in ages, and give them the support they need. Thankfully we as supporters aren't playing.


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« Reply #2217 on: January 4, 2019, 03:09:29 PM »
Need to pull out the similar thread from 2013/2014.

Probably also need a few to sacrifice their bollocks (by the way what happened to Carly)

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« Reply #2218 on: January 4, 2019, 03:13:19 PM »
It's a league cup weekend.

Those are on Tuesday/Wednesdays. FA Cup fourth round is the weekend of the 26th.


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« Reply #2219 on: January 4, 2019, 03:15:06 PM »
The supporters really need to grow a fcking pair. Enjoy the bloody side you're [not you directly] witnessing play on the pitch as it's one of the best we've had in ages, and give them the support they need. Thankfully we as supporters aren't playing.



That's the point though, we get so wrapped up in other team's results and our future fixtures that we forget to look forward to and enjoy the next game.
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« Reply #2220 on: January 4, 2019, 03:18:14 PM »
Need to pull out the similar thread from 2013/2014.

Probably also need a few to sacrifice their bollocks (by the way what happened to Carly)

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« Reply #2221 on: January 4, 2019, 03:19:51 PM »
Happy to give my left one if we win it
And I'm happy to give your right one.
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« Reply #2222 on: January 4, 2019, 03:20:48 PM »
And I'm happy to give your right one.
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« Reply #2223 on: January 4, 2019, 03:22:12 PM »
There is a lot of bollocks being talked about on this thread.  ;)
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« Reply #2224 on: January 4, 2019, 03:30:14 PM »
And I'm happy to give your right one.
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Not looking to have any more kids so I'm in ;)

In case anyone is still worrying about the result, in the previous two seasons, the then leaders have both been beaten in a big game early in January. In the end, it was not anything more than a bloody nose and they still went on to win. We should do well to remember that, and get on with winning games.
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« Reply #2225 on: January 4, 2019, 03:31:37 PM »
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Liverpool fans’ arrogance due to history (cough) and their strange anti-England sentiment have caused everyone to dislike them and want City to win league.

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Safe to say all Liverpool fans would have been screaming for Everton to win the league over United for the past thirty years.

As a Brighton fan, would love Liverpool to win it, have grown up in the era of anyone but Man Utd.

As an Arsenal fan happy for Liverpool if they win the league this season just didn't want them to do it by going undefeated.

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« Reply #2226 on: January 4, 2019, 03:47:42 PM »
One of many from BBC sport website

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I don't really have an issue with other club's fans wanting City to win it. I know a few years ago when we were nowhere near the title I would usually prefer City to win it over a "real" football club. They're basically using cheat codes, their trophies are hollow to me. Whenever they win stuff it's just like, whatever.

If we win, the monkey will be off our back, our rivals won't be able to gloat about us not winning the league, we have tens of millions of fans all over England and the world who will probably be insufferable, milking it (i know I will  ;D )

If City win, it's just another empty pot for the Abu Dhabi project and their few fans in Manchester. Nobody cares.
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« Reply #2227 on: January 4, 2019, 03:49:53 PM »

If we win, the monkey will be off our back, our rivals won't be able to gloat about us not winning the league, we have tens of millions of fans all over England and the world who will probably be insufferable, milking it (i know I will  ;D )


Surely you mean only winning it 18 times.
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« Reply #2228 on: January 4, 2019, 03:50:03 PM »
Just looking at our fixtures to come in the league, the next five is

Brighton Away
Palace Home
Leicester Home
West Ham Away
Bournemouth Home

Man City on the other hand have the following fixtures

Wolves Home
Huddersfield Away
Newcastle Away
Arsenal Home
Chelsea Home

I genuinely think over the course of these fixtures we could gain further points advantage over City.

Leicester are decent, West Ham away will be difficult. Can’t see Arsenal getting anything at City, only maybe Chelsea. If anything we might have slightly more difficult games to them.

I’m really concerned by their squad now. I don’t think we’ve got great options up front, and they have a much bigger squad than us, with KDB, Mahrez and Jesus not even taking part last night.

Failing to get any result last night means we now need to be basically perfect and we need Keita, Shaq, Gomez, maybe Lallana to step up. Matching City to the end of the season will not be any easy task, which makes last night even harder to take.


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« Reply #2229 on: January 4, 2019, 03:51:17 PM »
Just make sure our starting XI gets a nice rest here in the FA Cup game.

Next PL game - Jan. 12th .... 19th .... 30th - we can get some rest in here as well. Maybe a warm weather training after the 19th?
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« Reply #2230 on: January 4, 2019, 03:52:05 PM »

Leicester are decent, West Ham away will be difficult. Can’t see Arsenal getting anything at City, only maybe Chelsea. If anything we might have slightly more difficult games to them.

I’m really concerned by their squad now. I don’t think we’ve got great options up front, and they have a much bigger squad than us, with KDB, Mahrez and Jesus not even taking part last night.

Failing to get any result last night means we now need to be basically perfect and we need Keita, Shaq, Gomez, maybe Lallana to step up. Matching City to the end of the season will not be any easy task, which makes last night even harder to take.


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Beating them last night wouldn't have made the schedule and the other games any easier than what they are currently. Our options are what they are, they've done us well so far, we'll have to do with what we have, that's nothing new. Thankfully the manager has belief in the players

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« Reply #2231 on: January 4, 2019, 03:52:30 PM »
Another factor to consider is our bad form in January under Klopp.

It's a different team now (in mentality and quality), but we will have to turn these upcoming results on it's head to give us a shot.


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« Reply #2232 on: January 4, 2019, 03:54:20 PM »
Surely you mean only winning it 18 times.

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« Reply #2233 on: January 4, 2019, 03:55:44 PM »

Leicester are decent, West Ham away will be difficult. Can’t see Arsenal getting anything at City, only maybe Chelsea. If anything we might have slightly more difficult games to them.

I’m really concerned by their squad now. I don’t think we’ve got great options up front, and they have a much bigger squad than us, with KDB, Mahrez and Jesus not even taking part last night.

Failing to get any result last night means we now need to be basically perfect and we need Keita, Shaq, Gomez, maybe Lallana to step up. Matching City to the end of the season will not be any easy task, which makes last night even harder to take.


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There is absolutely no reason why we cannot beat any of those teams you are currently trying to build up. Also City had to go deep into themselves last night to beat us at all. The stats for both teams had very little difference. They are also having to push their injured players into playing earlier than they would have liked. Which is why the likes of KDB was sitting on the subs bench rather than starting the game. There is no reason to suppose we cannot have another positive run. There is plenty left in the tank, our hardest games are behind us. We just go on doing what we've done up to now.
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« Reply #2234 on: January 4, 2019, 03:56:04 PM »
As an Arsenal fan happy for Liverpool if they win the league this season just didn't want them to do it by going undefeated.
Just seen two Arsenal mates at work for the first time since before Christmas, expecting them to be a bit sheepish after the 5-1. Met with choruses of "You're not invincible!".

I think the anti-Liverpool noise is more pronounced online than I experience in day to day reality. 
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« Reply #2235 on: January 4, 2019, 04:01:03 PM »
Just seen two Arsenal mates at work for the first time since before Christmas, expecting them to be a bit sheepish after the 5-1. Met with choruses of "You're not invincible!".

I think the anti-Liverpool noise is more pronounced online than I experience in day to day reality.

I think its entirely understandable that an Arsenal fan would not want another team to go through the season unbeaten to be fair. We'd be the same after all.
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« Reply #2236 on: January 4, 2019, 04:01:19 PM »
I really don't see our players letting last night go to their heads. Maybe if we had been battered it might have taken a mental toll, but we weren't in the slightest. I am 100% confident we will return to our stride.


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« Reply #2237 on: January 4, 2019, 04:02:56 PM »


I think the anti-Liverpool noise is more pronounced online than I experience in day to day reality.

At work - Man Utd fan would rather have us win it than City, Leicester fan - not expressed an opinion, Spurs fan - hates us, I think he'd rather anyone but us.
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« Reply #2238 on: January 4, 2019, 04:03:37 PM »
Erm, did you miss all of December? We were unreal.

I think that was the point,we seem to have found another gear at exactly the right time.
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« Reply #2239 on: January 4, 2019, 04:06:46 PM »
We’re the freshest team in the league partly *because* we havent been running/aggressively pressing as much. It’s going to be key for the run in.

I believe the majority of the running have been done by the central midfielders and Robbo.  Klopp has been rotating the CMs almost from game to game, so main concern will be making sure Robbo does not hit a wall fitness-wise for the latter part of the season
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