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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1400 on: April 9, 2019, 08:59:50 AM »
This really reminds you how amazing this season is. It's interesting that we've been top for pretty much all of the season and shows that city have a pretty difficult run in.

That just means they have had an easier season than us so far.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1401 on: April 9, 2019, 09:23:40 AM »
What really strikes me is that we have beaten par 5 times and dropped points to par only 3 times.

City have also beaten par 5 times but have dropped points to par 5 times.

They have to beat par two more times than us in the remaining games (on the big assumption that we win all of it remaining games) in order to overtake us.



Of the 3 we've dropped to par ... two were against City (h & a) and the other was Leicester at home.

City have dropped to par against Wolves (a), Chelsea (a), Palace (h), Leicester (a) and Newcastle (a)

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1402 on: April 9, 2019, 04:54:00 PM »
Remaining fixtures for us and Man City


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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1403 on: April 10, 2019, 11:45:48 AM »
Current APLT numbers:

Liverpool: 5
City: 2
Spurs: -12
Arsenal: -13
United: -13
Chelsea: -15

Matchday 33/34

Liverpool: 5 Chelsea (H) Par 3 (Win 5, Draw 3, Lose 2)
City: 2 Palace (A) Par 1 (Win 4, Draw 2, Lose 1)
Spurs: -12 Huddersfield (H) Par 3 (Win -12, Draw -14, Lose -15)
Arsenal: -13 Watford (A)  Par 3  (Win -13, Draw -15, Lose -16)
United: -13 West Ham (H) Par 3  (Win -13, Draw -15, Lose -16)
Chelsea: -15 Liverpool (A) Par 1 (Win -13, Draw -15, Lose -16)

The reds with by far their hardest game remaining against a somewhat resurgent Chelsea at Anfield. A win here would likely make us favourites for the run in regardless of City's result at Palace. City have a tough away game against Palace who have done a number on them in the past. However, it is still a game you'd expect City to win. Spurs and United have what should be run-of-the-mill home games for a top 4 chasing side although dropping points wouldn't be fatal for either on the APLT. Arsenal have a tricky par 3 which could see them drop down to 6th in the APLT if they don't get a win. Chelsea can get in to the top 4 both on the APLT and be in a strong position in the real table with a result at Anfield.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1404 on: April 10, 2019, 01:49:02 PM »
We don't have a great recent record against Chelsea at Anfield. We haven't beaten them at home for very nearly 7 years.

Date          Score   Result
26/09/18   1 : 2   L
25/11/17   1 : 1   D
31/01/17   1 : 1   D
11/05/16   1 : 1   D
20/01/15   1 : 1   D
08/11/14   1 : 2   L
27/04/14   0 : 2   L
21/04/13   2 : 2   D
08/05/12   4 : 1   W
05/05/12   1 : 2   L
07/11/10   2 : 0   W
02/05/10   0 : 2   L
08/04/09   1 : 3   L
01/02/09   2 : 0   W
22/04/08   1 : 1   D

Maybe we're due a change?
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1405 on: April 14, 2019, 07:54:30 PM »
So neck and neck now?
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1406 on: April 14, 2019, 08:09:40 PM »
No, it’s 5 to 4 now.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1407 on: April 14, 2019, 08:11:40 PM »
So neck and neck now?
We're one ahead on here

They picked up two points to par to put them on +4.  We stay on +5

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1408 on: April 14, 2019, 10:22:10 PM »
Sorry guys, been a bit sparse with these recently but here's the latest update, I haven't included one of the graphs because frankly it's a nightmare to read, these should be good enough though.

RAPLT Week 34

Bottom 7


3 Week Moving Average.


edit: updated 2nd graph as per Drmick's post.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1409 on: April 15, 2019, 10:59:30 AM »
Ta guys :)
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1410 on: April 15, 2019, 03:28:26 PM »
No, it’s 5 to 4 now.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1411 on: April 15, 2019, 04:13:00 PM »
Sorry guys, been a bit sparse with these recently but here's the latest update, I haven't included one of the graphs because frankly it's a nightmare to read, these should be good enough though.

RAPLT Week 34

Bottom 7


3 Week Moving Average.


On the bottom 3 game rolling average graph- shouldn't have Everton' s defeat to Fulham produced a drop or flattening?

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1413 on: April 15, 2019, 10:11:16 PM »
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1414 on: April 15, 2019, 11:52:08 PM »
It's getting pretty tight at the top.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1415 on: April 16, 2019, 07:09:36 AM »
This is crazy. Unsure playing to par until the end of season would secure the title for Liverpool.

Crazy.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1416 on: April 16, 2019, 08:21:03 AM »
This is crazy. Unsure playing to par until the end of season would secure the title for Liverpool.

Crazy.

If City win at Old Trafford they would go up to +6 wouldn't they? Assuming that's their last par 1?
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1417 on: April 16, 2019, 08:23:35 AM »
If City win at Old Trafford they would go up to +6 wouldn't they? Assuming that's their last chance to make up ground.

Burnley as well. We would get +2 for Newcastle.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1418 on: April 16, 2019, 08:26:01 AM »
Burnley as well. We would get +2 for Newcastle.

Ah, okay. So should we both win all our games we'd end up on +8 and +7.

Unbelievably tight.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1419 on: April 16, 2019, 01:02:44 PM »
On the bottom 3 game rolling average graph- shouldn't have Everton' s defeat to Fulham produced a drop or flattening?

You're right, looking at the formulas, it was referencing the 3 games prior to week 34 and not the 3 games including week 34. I suspect the formulas may also have affected some of the other rows as well so I copied and dragged the amended formula for all teams. Here's the amended one.


Good spot Mick.


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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1420 on: April 16, 2019, 04:19:20 PM »
I think the relegation model is quite decent still. If either of the two need fixing it'd the title-winning one! Do we think all 6 teams finish above the 71 points line?

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1421 on: April 16, 2019, 11:02:30 PM »
I think the relegation model is quite decent still. If either of the two need fixing it'd the title-winning one! Do we think all 6 teams finish above the 71 points line?
Even if they do, it's a one season anomaly. No need to change it until it is shown to fail consistently, just my 2c
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1422 on: April 17, 2019, 09:21:12 AM »
Cardiff have some raised hope by beating Brighton. Let's hope they're not too enthusiastic when we visit them. Looking at their position on the ALTP they are well fooked - they play us and United.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1423 on: April 17, 2019, 10:08:32 AM »
Current APLT numbers:

Liverpool: 5
City: 4
Spurs: -12
Arsenal: -13
United: -13
Chelsea: -16

Matchday 35

Liverpool: 5 Cardiff (A) Par 3 (Win 5, Draw 3, Lose 2)
City: 4 Spurs (H) Par 4 (Win 4, Draw 2, Lose 1)
Spurs: -12 City (A) Par 1 (Win -10, Draw -12, Lose -13)
Arsenal: -13 Palace (H)  Par 3  (Win -13, Draw -15, Lose -16)
United: -13 Everton (A) Par 1 (Win -11, Draw -13, Lose -14)
Chelsea: -16 Burnley (H) Par 3 (Win -16, Draw -18, Lose -19)

Liverpool go to Cardiff knowing a win will keep them top of the real table and the APLT. Whereas City host Spurs knowing that anything but a win might leave them second until the end of the season. Spurs go to City with something of a free hit, a loss still keeping them at least joint 3rd on the APLT. Any other result will keep Spurs a comfortable 3rd with room to spare for any possible CL fixtures. Arsenal has a home game against Palace which you'd expect a team with their home record to see through and cement their top 4 standing. United have a tough away trip to Everton which they need points from in order to keep the pressure on Arsenal. A win will see them overtake Arsenal on the APLT and jump to 3rd. Chelsea must beat Burnley at home or they are all but out of the top 4 race.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1424 on: April 17, 2019, 10:23:25 AM »
at this stage of the season and with the breakaway the two of us have had, it is just binary. The plus and minus value of games barely exists at this stage, in an unusual way, like rarely happens in our league. This probably happened some time in February.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1425 on: April 17, 2019, 11:34:01 AM »
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« Reply #1426 on: April 17, 2019, 11:34:38 AM »
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1429 on: April 19, 2019, 04:05:43 PM »
Remaining fixtures for us and Man City


Just a reminder... Man City should win tomorrow.  There's a reason these are par three fixtures.  The two subsequent games are their two chances to gain the points they need to leapfrog our current aplt score.

If they win them all, it'll be one heck of a performance.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1430 on: April 20, 2019, 04:59:48 PM »
Just a reminder... Man City should win tomorrow.  There's a reason these are par three fixtures.  The two subsequent games are their two chances to gain the points they need to leapfrog our current aplt score.

If they win them all, it'll be one heck of a performance.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1431 on: April 20, 2019, 06:05:49 PM »
Yeah, but Burnley and Utd are rubbish this season.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1432 on: April 20, 2019, 07:06:40 PM »
Yeah, but Burnley and Utd are rubbish this season.

So is Crystal Palace, didn't stop them beating City.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1433 on: April 20, 2019, 07:13:20 PM »
So is Crystal Palace, didn't stop them beating City.


I dont get the hope people have in Burnley. They hardly carry a threat.

Utd are a threat despite also being dogshit. Its the same way Palace carried a threat. If anything Leicester is the tougher game but Burnley? No chance.

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« Reply #1434 on: April 20, 2019, 07:23:02 PM »
I dont get the hope people have in Burnley. They hardly carry a threat.

Utd are a threat despite also being dogshit. Its the same way Palace carried a threat. If anything Leicester is the tougher game but Burnley? No chance.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1435 on: April 20, 2019, 07:23:55 PM »
I dont get the hope people have in Burnley. They hardly carry a threat.

Utd are a threat despite also being dogshit. Its the same way Palace carried a threat. If anything Leicester is the tougher game but Burnley? No chance.

The point is City have had problems there in the past and its never an easy place to go to when you have to win.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1436 on: April 20, 2019, 08:42:42 PM »
It could be one of those things. Burnley not being a threat is why they are a threat. Then again, they may concede two in the first ten minutes.

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« Reply #1437 on: April 20, 2019, 11:20:55 PM »
The point is City have had problems there in the past and its never an easy place to go to when you have to win.

Maybe, but Burnley are safe now. The only hope Burnley have is that it will be off the back of a longer rest period than City.

United are the test and even Leicester can spring a surprise. But Burnley? No chance.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1438 on: April 20, 2019, 11:43:50 PM »
It's not just about who you play... It's about where you play...

Home advantage in football is huge.  Just look at the data and history.  Playing in front of your home fans, on a familiar pitch, without the travel and disruption to daily rhythm etc.  Going away from home to any team with a bit of fight is never easy.

Cardiff will be difficult for us tomorrow and Burnley though for them.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2018-19
« Reply #1439 on: April 21, 2019, 12:57:36 AM »
Maybe, but Burnley are safe now. The only hope Burnley have is that it will be off the back of a longer rest period than City.

United are the test and even Leicester can spring a surprise. But Burnley? No chance.
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