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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #400 on: January 11, 2019, 08:49:41 PM »
Indeed. Leeds only getting 78% of their passes on target, Derby only getting 57% of theirs!

I always laugh at first nowadays when going from watching an LFC game to watching a Liga MX or South American game when with my wife's family.  Is it the same sport?!  LOL

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #401 on: January 11, 2019, 08:51:59 PM »
Well that didn't take long. 2-0 Leeds. Carson with a bit of a blunder. Frank looks devoid of ideas
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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #402 on: January 11, 2019, 09:08:33 PM »
Not sure how the Leeds keeper gets away with studs to the strikers face there, seemed pretty deliberate

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #403 on: January 11, 2019, 09:11:50 PM »
Leeds have got a very good young player in Jack Clarke.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #404 on: January 11, 2019, 09:13:04 PM »
Yeah he looks very promising.  Good dribbler despite his height and gangly frame.
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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #405 on: January 11, 2019, 09:15:24 PM »
Leeds have got a very good young player in Jack Clarke.

He's like the right-side Andy Robertson
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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #406 on: January 11, 2019, 09:17:41 PM »
Leeds are just better.  This is only my 2nd time watching them, if they come up I don't see how they would ever score.  Granted the same was said about Cardiff this year and they seemingly will stay up.  We'll see.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #407 on: January 11, 2019, 09:19:38 PM »
David Nugent is only the first 33 years old. He's been around for ages.
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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #408 on: January 11, 2019, 09:21:04 PM »
Leeds are just better.  This is only my 2nd time watching them, if they come up I don't see how they would ever score.  Granted the same was said about Cardiff this year and they seemingly will stay up.  We'll see.

Leeds have been excellent this season.
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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #409 on: January 11, 2019, 09:27:07 PM »
Impressed by Leeds, and doing it against arguably the best young coach/manager in world football
Yeah, for thinking Kane is better than Torres/Bergkamp. Crazy opinion.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #410 on: January 11, 2019, 09:28:27 PM »
Impressed by Leeds, and doing it against arguably the best young coach/manager in world football

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #411 on: January 11, 2019, 09:32:02 PM »
Impressed by Leeds, and doing it against arguably the best young coach/manager in world football

It's easy when you can send a spy to the opposition training ground. ;)

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #412 on: January 11, 2019, 09:34:15 PM »
It wasn't even close to offside earlier in the move. Linesman got it completely wrong.

Take your word for it - only saw it very quickly flicking channels

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #413 on: January 11, 2019, 09:39:26 PM »
Leeds under Bielsa would be great to have back in the PL.

If Derby make the play-offs then Lampard will have had an excellent first season in management - by most accounts he's completely changed the style of play and lowered the average age of the squad so he looks to have something about him.  Leeds were just better than them in every area tonight.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #414 on: January 12, 2019, 02:36:44 AM »
Leeds under Bielsa would be great to have back in the PL.

If Derby make the play-offs then Lampard will have had an excellent first season in management - by most accounts he's completely changed the style of play and lowered the average age of the squad so he looks to have something about him.  Leeds were just better than them in every area tonight.

They were second in the table at the same point last season...
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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #415 on: January 12, 2019, 11:29:13 AM »
Leeds are close to getting Fraser Forster from Southampton btw. Apparently their young keeper has made too many mistakes and they are after some experience. Would be a good signing (for that level only).
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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #416 on: January 12, 2019, 11:38:02 AM »
I think they've spent long enough in the wilderness, will be good to have them back. Rather them than the likes of Burnley and Palace

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #417 on: January 12, 2019, 11:56:35 AM »
They were second in the table at the same point last season...

Don't think that would make it any less of an achievement for a young manager to finish in the play-offs in his first season having changed so much at the club over a short space of time.

That's if Derby do finish in the play-offs, there are five points between them and Bristol City in 11th so they could fall away in the second half.


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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #418 on: January 16, 2019, 03:23:52 PM »
Bielsa holding a press conference at 5pm apparently.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #419 on: January 16, 2019, 03:55:19 PM »
Bielsa holding a press conference at 5pm apparently.

Surely not resigning as per some (admittedly dubious) reports?

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #420 on: January 16, 2019, 04:19:09 PM »
Surely not resigning as per some (admittedly dubious) reports?

Aye seen a few leople saying he's leaving but nothing on amything official.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #421 on: January 16, 2019, 05:22:24 PM »
Bielsa makes Klopp look like Claude Puel.  The bloke's a loon.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #422 on: January 16, 2019, 05:23:44 PM »
Admitted he's spied on everyone this season. He's giving a PowerPoint presentation.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #423 on: January 16, 2019, 05:24:05 PM »
LOL! This guy... :D
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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #424 on: January 16, 2019, 05:24:45 PM »
What an absolute fuss over nothing, christ.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #425 on: January 16, 2019, 05:32:49 PM »
Was hoping we would see Bielsa blub (has a devil put aside for meeeee).

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #426 on: January 16, 2019, 05:34:19 PM »
Admitted he's spied on everyone this season. He's giving a PowerPoint presentation.

Why not

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #427 on: January 16, 2019, 05:44:17 PM »
Peak Bielsa. Love it personally.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #428 on: January 16, 2019, 05:52:26 PM »
Admitted he's spied on everyone this season. He's giving a PowerPoint presentation.

He is using a powerpoint presentation to show all their analysis on Derby- i.e. hitting back at Lampard by helping all other clubs in the Championship.

Is it really a surprise to anyone that clubs who spend loads of money on analysts do not ring as much as possible out of them by getting every piece of information available?

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #429 on: January 16, 2019, 05:56:59 PM »
Don't get what the big deal is. Everton have probably been spying on their opponents regularly for years and still been shite.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #430 on: January 16, 2019, 06:23:43 PM »
He is good entertainment ;D
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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #432 on: January 16, 2019, 06:48:36 PM »
Truly hope this guy brings Leeds up, will be great to watch. Certainly be a breath of fresh air when compared to the likes of Sean Dyche and Colin Wanker

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #433 on: January 16, 2019, 06:49:11 PM »
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Frank Lampard must be delighted: he made a big fuss about a guy in the bushes, and now Bielsa is revealing every single minute detail of Derby's tactics over the last two years via Powerpoint to the entire football world.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #434 on: January 16, 2019, 06:52:22 PM »
Holy moly. That’s one of the best things I’ve seen in football. No wonder some of the finest coaches on earth look up to him. Sensational.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #435 on: January 16, 2019, 06:53:07 PM »
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Frank Lampard must be delighted: he made a big fuss about a guy in the bushes, and now Bielsa is revealing every single minute detail of Derby's tactics over the last two years via Powerpoint to the entire football world.

Bielsa <3

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #436 on: January 16, 2019, 07:04:05 PM »
Some of the choice tweets from Bielsa's conference (for those who don't have twitter):

"Bielsa now using a big screen to demonstrated his analysis. Says what he's showing us took more than 300 hours of work. He's running us through the information he gathers for individual games, using Derby as an example.

Bielsa says his staff watched all 51 games Derby played last season. Each game took four hours to analyse. "Why did we do that? Because we think this is professional behaviour. It's to try and avoid being ignorant about the competition we're playing in."

BIelsa asks a journalist to pick out a specific game - Chelsea 3 Derby 2 from last season. Showing us the starting line-ups, the data from the game, substitutions and changes to formation during the game etc.

This is a spectacular takedown of Spygate. Now showing us percentages for the number of times Derby have used certain formations and which players have moved around in different positions. "This gives you priorities."

Now we're seeing analysis of the formations Derby have played against, to try and establish which structure they struggle against.  "All this information, I don't memorise it. But if I have a doubt, I can ask myself the question and have a look at this document."

Bielsa showing a video to demostrate what Harry Wilson is planning to do when he raises both hands before taking a corner. It's a specific play which Derby employ. "You cannot analyse football if you do not know who each player is."

the video is 41 minutes long, made up of Derby attacks over the course of the season. "When you see 41 minutes, you see what the path that the opponent attacks and you see the defensive weakness." His staff then condense the video to eight minutes for the players to watch.

The players also get a seven/eight minute video looking at defensive points. "The idea is to give the players a look at the opponent in 15 minutes."

Now going through every Derby formation and showing who plays where most often and how is changes. He knows how many minutes each player has played in each position. You sort of wonder if even Lampard knows this much about Derby.

This is what we’re looking at:


Bielsa (and this is the rub:) "I don't need to go to watch a training session of an opponent to know how the opponent plays."

Great story. Bielsa says he showed Guardiola his analysis after Bilbao lost to Barcelona in the Copa Del Rey final. "Guardiola had a look at it and he told me 'you know more about Barcelona than me'. But it was useless information because they scored three goals."

Stoke are next up for Leeds. But they've changed manager. So since Nathan Jones took charge (last week), Bielsa and his staff have analysed every game he had at Luton this season.

Bielsa thanks us for our patience, tells us he's stupid for doing all this analysis, opens the door and walks out (of the room, not the club). We're done.

It comes down to anxiety for Bielsa - he says he analyses all of this because he's anxious to make sure he's got all his basis covered. Think the highlight of my time doing this job was his mic-drop at the end. "Thank you." Gone."

He did the same thing when he was in charge of our National Team (extensive video analysis, with hours and hours of matches condensed into 8-9 minutes videos for the players to watch), so it's definitely his modus operandi. Love him. And he remains humble as ever.

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #437 on: January 16, 2019, 07:09:31 PM »
51 games [90 minutes] X 4 HOURS = I am not sure that's true.


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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #438 on: January 16, 2019, 07:23:18 PM »
He is good entertainment ;D

Yep. Dropped the fucking mic on Lampard there

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Re: Skybet Championship Thread 2018/19
« Reply #439 on: January 16, 2019, 07:41:33 PM »
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Frank Lampard must be delighted: he made a big fuss about a guy in the bushes, and now Bielsa is revealing every single minute detail of Derby's tactics over the last two years via Powerpoint to the entire football world.

:lmao

Wonderful stuff from Bielsa  8)  Lampard be wishing he didn't open his big gob now.
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