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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #160 on: July 24, 2018, 04:06:57 PM »
This is a really good point, so many of the younger players see Sturridge as a 'big brother'/mentor type, I reckon Rhian would flourish with Daniel giving him tips all season.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #161 on: July 24, 2018, 04:07:53 PM »
Not to piss on the optimists chips (too much), I think it's worth remembering that with Sturridge it's not a binary 'fit' or 'not fit' that is stopping him from performing like he did four or five years ago.

If he manages to stay absolutely 100% fit, his body's potential is still absolutely nowhere near his previous level.

The hope is that when he is fit this season, he can compete with opposition defenders (with 45+ minutes out of their tank) physically and for long enough for him to be considered valuable enough by Klopp to be brought on as a sub.

If he is, then that's great news. If he's not, then it's better to give those minutes to someone else. I hope it's the former, as he has a unique ability in our squad.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #162 on: July 24, 2018, 04:13:19 PM »
Not to piss on the optimists chips (too much), I think it's worth remembering that with Sturridge it's not a binary 'fit' or 'not fit' that is stopping him from performing like he did four or five years ago.

If he manages to stay absolutely 100% fit, his body's potential is still absolutely nowhere near his previous level.

The hope is that when he is fit this season, he can compete with opposition defenders (with 45+ minutes out of their tank) physically and for long enough for him to be considered valuable enough by Klopp to be brought on as a sub.

If he is, then that's great news. If he's not, then it's better to give those minutes to someone else. I hope it's the former, as he has a unique ability in our squad.
All true. I may be kidding myself though, but I still reckon that a fit Sturridge is not far off the best strikers in the league. His touch and finishing still looks to be right up there.

Not really sure what I'm basing this on other the the odd appearance here and there, as he hasn't had a decent run of games in years, but I'm choosing to believe it's the case until proven otherwise.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #163 on: July 24, 2018, 04:18:57 PM »
He doesn't even need movement, just hang around the edge of box with that rifle of a left foot and good things will happen
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #164 on: July 24, 2018, 04:19:47 PM »
Not to piss on the optimists chips (too much), I think it's worth remembering that with Sturridge it's not a binary 'fit' or 'not fit' that is stopping him from performing like he did four or five years ago.

If he manages to stay absolutely 100% fit, his body's potential is still absolutely nowhere near his previous level.

The hope is that when he is fit this season, he can compete with opposition defenders (with 45+ minutes out of their tank) physically and for long enough for him to be considered valuable enough by Klopp to be brought on as a sub.

If he is, then that's great news. If he's not, then it's better to give those minutes to someone else. I hope it's the former, as he has a unique ability in our squad.
you are indeed pissing on peoples chips but you are spot on

pace is one thing that he has lost amid all the injuries.

its the hope that kills you with sturridge
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #165 on: July 24, 2018, 04:20:59 PM »
He doesn't even need movement, just hang around the edge of box with that rifle of a left foot and good things will happen
true too. one touch he can kill you
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #166 on: July 24, 2018, 04:23:01 PM »
All he needs is 45 minutes here, 30 minutes there.....a quick 20 here, and a short and sharp 15 minutes there.

Enough for him to take, gives bobby a break....his left foot is a wand

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #167 on: July 24, 2018, 04:27:51 PM »
I know we're all setting ourselves up for a massive fall here, but I love the fact that the very idea of a fit Daniel Sturridge still gives people joy and optimism. Something vaguely heartwarming about that, I think.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #168 on: July 24, 2018, 05:14:38 PM »
I know we're all setting ourselves up for a massive fall here, but I love the fact that the very idea of a fit Daniel Sturridge still gives people joy and optimism. Something vaguely heartwarming about that, I think.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #169 on: July 24, 2018, 05:27:58 PM »
I know we're all setting ourselves up for a massive fall here, but I love the fact that the very idea of a fit Daniel Sturridge still gives people joy and optimism. Something vaguely heartwarming about that, I think.

Used to be a massive fall, now it feels like more like that odd step out your front door that you forget about every time even though you've lived there the last three years.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #170 on: July 24, 2018, 05:28:56 PM »
I know we're all setting ourselves up for a massive fall here, but I love the fact that the very idea of a fit Daniel Sturridge still gives people joy and optimism. Something vaguely heartwarming about that, I think.

I agree with you. Nice to see an element of romanticism around pure technical football and a character

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #171 on: July 24, 2018, 05:32:56 PM »
I am sure he was gutted that he left in January and then miss the entire run to the CL final, and not be involved any way. Granted he got injured at West Brom, but being around the lads at the time who knows, he may have wanted to experience that with us.

It could be one of the reasons he is additionally motivated.


I don't think that he has ever lacked motivation,he spent the whole summer last year in America getting himself fit.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #172 on: July 24, 2018, 05:40:45 PM »
Won't need a whole bunch of pace against a low block. I'm ready to be disappointed.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #173 on: July 24, 2018, 05:55:20 PM »
Put a bit of a shift in for a few pre season games and then back on the treatment table and visiting cool coffee shops around the north west. It beats a wet Wednesday at West Brom and he knows it.

We've been had off again.


(I would love to be wrong, when fit and interested he's world class.)
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #174 on: July 24, 2018, 06:06:06 PM »

I don't think that he has ever lacked motivation,he spent the whole summer last year in America getting himself fit.
He spent his summer in America, living in luxury?  Is this one of those "sacrifices that professional footballers make" that I keep hearing about?
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #175 on: July 24, 2018, 06:13:48 PM »
Put a bit of a shift in for a few pre season games and then back on the treatment table and visiting cool coffee shops around the north west. It beats a wet Wednesday at West Brom and he knows it.

We've been had off again.


(I would love to be wrong, when fit and interested he's world class.)

So he's purposefully getting himself injured because he'd rather visit 'cool coffee shops' than play football for Liverpool? And he's successfully carried out this deception, fooling all the medical staff with made up injuries for years, until you came along and lifted the lid on this farce. Many thanks, I really didn't want to be had off again.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #176 on: July 24, 2018, 06:16:50 PM »
So he's purposefully getting himself injured because he'd rather visit 'cool coffee shops' than play football for Liverpool? And he's successfully carried out this deception, fooling all the medical staff with made up injuries for years, until you came along and lifted the lid on this farce. Many thanks, I really didn't want to be had off again.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #177 on: July 24, 2018, 06:32:40 PM »
He spent his summer in America, living in luxury?  Is this one of those "sacrifices that professional footballers make" that I keep hearing about?


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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #178 on: July 24, 2018, 06:35:46 PM »
he's always worked better with another striker doing the dirty work. Suarez got stuck in and Danny danced around. I'm wondering if Klopp has an eye on that formation we played late in the season with the front 3 plus Solanke (but Sturridge instead). Was it against Watford? Don't remember offhand.

Klopp obviously has a plan for him, and that's exciting in itself.

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« Reply #179 on: July 24, 2018, 06:36:18 PM »
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #180 on: July 24, 2018, 06:38:03 PM »
If motivation was a problem you can bet your bottom dollar we'd have heard about it before now. Something that Klopp wouldn't tolerate for a second.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #181 on: July 24, 2018, 06:48:05 PM »
If motivation was a problem you can bet your bottom dollar we'd have heard about it before now. Something that Klopp wouldn't tolerate for a second.

I think Klopp has been fairly oblique in his statements about Sturridge.
"That's what all the fuss is about"
"Sometimes you have to play through pain, because pain and injury aren't the same thing." (paraphrasing)
"Now that your fit, I'm loaning you to WBA." (paraphrasing)

Here is what I think happens. Daniel has a good pre-season and we sell him. Shop window at this time of year for a goal scorer, some mug will bite.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #182 on: July 24, 2018, 07:07:40 PM »
I think Klopp has been fairly oblique in his statements about Sturridge.
"That's what all the fuss is about"
"Sometimes you have to play through pain, because pain and injury aren't the same thing." (paraphrasing)
"Now that your fit, I'm loaning you to WBA." (paraphrasing)

Here is what I think happens. Daniel has a good pre-season and we sell him. Shop window at this time of year for a goal scorer, some mug will bite.
Nah don't think so, the article from the Echo and Telegraph pretty much confirmed he's staying while we're open to sell Ings and Origi.


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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #183 on: July 24, 2018, 07:33:12 PM »
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #184 on: July 24, 2018, 07:40:24 PM »
All he needs is 45 minutes here, 30 minutes there.....a quick 20 here, and a short and sharp 15 minutes there.

Enough for him to take, gives bobby a break....his left foot is a wand

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this is how the slippery slope starts for me.  I think, surely he can give us 15-20 games as a sub where he comes on for 20-25 minutes, especially if we need a goal.  Then I start to think, surely he could play the domestic cups and give Bobby a rest.  What a run we would have in the cups with Sturridge leading the line.   Then I think, why couldn't he start 10 league games for us:  10 home games against the bus parkers where he wouldn't have to put in as much running.  His eye for goal is surely the key to unlocking the bottom teams. . . and I keep rationalizing until I have him winning the Ballon D'or next season.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #185 on: July 24, 2018, 08:23:11 PM »
Domestic Cup games.
Sub appearances when we need a goal.
Heavy rotation in the winter.
Rotation in the run.
All of that adds up. I think that's why Daniel is so relaxed about game time.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #186 on: July 24, 2018, 08:23:31 PM »
Nah don't think so, the article from the Echo and Telegraph pretty much confirmed he's staying while we're open to sell Ings and Origi.



I think (optimistically) we take a 20m bid for anyone of those three.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #187 on: July 24, 2018, 08:41:46 PM »
I think (optimistically) we take a 20m bid for anyone of those three.

We aren't selling all 3. and out of the 3, only Sturridge has impressed, [Ings hasnt't played due to injury but he wants out]


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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #188 on: July 24, 2018, 09:43:22 PM »
We have to change from doubter to believer. Now.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #190 on: July 24, 2018, 09:45:48 PM »
Salah's on the wrong side.

Clearly you have much to learn about the classic four-four-fucking-two formation.
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« Reply #191 on: July 24, 2018, 09:46:51 PM »
Clearly you have much to learn about the classic four-four-fucking-two formation.


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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #192 on: July 24, 2018, 10:05:34 PM »
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« Reply #193 on: July 24, 2018, 10:07:16 PM »


Great shout, he could test Sturridge's resolve this season.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #194 on: July 24, 2018, 10:14:56 PM »
this is how the slippery slope starts for me.  I think, surely he can give us 15-20 games as a sub where he comes on for 20-25 minutes, especially if we need a goal.  Then I start to think, surely he could play the domestic cups and give Bobby a rest.  What a run we would have in the cups with Sturridge leading the line.   Then I think, why couldn't he start 10 league games for us:  10 home games against the bus parkers where he wouldn't have to put in as much running.  His eye for goal is surely the key to unlocking the bottom teams. . . and I keep rationalizing until I have him winning the Ballon D'or next season.

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I've found myself saying the exact same things I did last summer,the main one being that we couldn't replace him with a player of the same qualities for less than £30-40m.

They ease at which him and Keith have clicked is just making it much worse this year.

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« Reply #195 on: July 25, 2018, 12:38:08 AM »
Domestic Cup games.
Sub appearances when we need a goal.
Heavy rotation in the winter.
Rotation in the run.
All of that adds up. I think that's why Daniel is so relaxed about game time.

If he stays fit, as everyone has said, he’ll see plenty of match time.  The question as always is, will he stay fit? 

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #196 on: July 25, 2018, 01:47:59 AM »
He spent his summer in America, living in luxury?  Is this one of those "sacrifices that professional footballers make" that I keep hearing about?

I don't think you can even imagine the sacrifice and discipline it takes to be a professional athlete. If it were as easy as you make it sound, then all of us would be doing it. Silly post.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #197 on: July 25, 2018, 05:48:19 AM »
I think the days of shifting the team around Sturridge has long since passed but when selected I do think he should be in a front two. Play to his strengths which is when he is as close to the penalty area as possible.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #198 on: July 25, 2018, 08:00:27 AM »
Even at full fitness, he's no longer the player he was. He's lost a hell of a lot of speed and that would kill any player, let alone one that was at one time known for his searing pace. Nevertheless, he is still blessed with technical ability and can still be a useful substitute. There's no way we should be going into the new season without adding another attacker though IMO.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #199 on: July 25, 2018, 08:53:29 AM »
There are several aspects to take into consideration with regards to Sturridge;

1. He can't play at the intensity needed in Klopp's primary formation

2. He can't press from the front like Firmino

3. He gets injured a lot

Point 1
This is absolutely true, running around like a beast isn't in Sturridge's makeup but it should be noted that a lot of the time (heck, most of the time) the opposition will be defending deep and with have no ambition about attacking and will just wait for a set peice. In these instances pace and stamina are complete no issues and it's all about streching the opposition defenders and creating a yard of space for yourself. Sturridge is better at this than most. He has the ability to create something out of nothing for himself or someone else. Even though the rate has gone down, Sturridge nearly ALWAYS creates something and often it isn't capitalised on.

Point 2
He can't press like Firmino, that that knowledge and work around it. Sturridge is best when he is around the box and IMHO, even now there is no one better in our squad in the penalty area than Sturridge. Get players in and around him, get players to work the channels, gets to support him and he'll thrive. This doesn't have to be at the start of games it can be in the closing minutes of games. If you are calling Sturridge from the bench to save the the game and make a difference then it's clear 'plan a' has failed so there is no harm in changing the formation and playing to Sturridge's strength at that stage you have nothing to lose and it will also make you less predictable.

Point 3
No argument to counter this. It's simply a fact. So you can only manage his time to minimize the risk of injury.
We have nothing to lose and Sturridge will be highly motivated if for no other reason than to increase the interest of better clubs when his contract runs out at the end of the season.

In closing:
Pick his moments.
Manage his time.
Play to his strengths.
Surround him with players that complement him.
Don't give him things that he can't do and then be surprised when he can't do it.

Do that and he'll be fine.