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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #240 on: July 14, 2018, 07:37:35 AM »
A no brainer as Klopp said. shaqiri looks truly happy to be with us.  It’s great to have a player with so much talent and so much to prove still in his career.
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« Reply #241 on: July 14, 2018, 07:41:08 AM »
Welcome, the first order of business has to be reshaping his physique to that of his best role - a dribbler. That was when he came to prominence, and since then he's been competing in the dwarven Mr. Universe for some weird reason. Give him the best level of agility and speed back, the dribbling and technical ability have always been there, we'll end up with a very good option. He could be the guy to back-up Salah / Mane, hell even compete with them if he regains his best physical level. That player can play in any position in the attacking or midfield line, as Klopp has mentioned.



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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #242 on: July 14, 2018, 07:49:19 AM »
I can tell the excitement is bubbling out of you.

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Mixed emotions.

The guys I see as a perfect fit are elite in off the ball work rate. Shaqiri is really the only player in the squad that's at odds with that.

In saying that, he has some skills and attributes that are lacking in the squad and when on the ball he's special. Plus Klopp has earned the benefit of the doubt so lets see what's in store. No need for me to piss in people chips.



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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #243 on: July 14, 2018, 08:14:19 AM »
;D

Mixed emotions.

The guys I see as a perfect fit are elite in off the ball work rate. Shaqiri is really the only player in the squad that's at odds with that.

In saying that, he has some skills and attributes that are lacking in the squad and when on the ball he's special. Plus Klopp has earned the benefit of the doubt so lets see what's in store. No need for me to piss in people chips.

I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him until October, bit like AOC and Robertson, once he has learned the role Klopp wants him to play.

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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #244 on: July 14, 2018, 08:23:46 AM »
Wouldn't be surprised if we saw him a bit earlier than we think. Remember Firmino Salah & Mane may not be up to speed or fit for the first games as they are coming back a few weeks later than everyone else right?.

Interesting how Klopp mentions "bravery" and "arrogance"....

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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #245 on: July 14, 2018, 08:31:31 AM »
Great signing and a bargain.

Pace, strength, skill, versatility, free kicks, and all for less than 1/10 of a Coutinho. Seems to also have a bit of arrogance and attitude which we've lacked a bit recently. Happy days.
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #246 on: July 14, 2018, 08:42:51 AM »
really excited about this signing, PL miles on the clock, he clearly wants to be here and he could be a little staffy we need to chew up a few defenses, wanted him here for a few years now

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« Reply #247 on: July 14, 2018, 08:46:57 AM »
Kloppo speaks:

“I think the English phrase to explain the decision to sign Xherdan is a ‘no-brainer’. When someone like him becomes available in this way you have to react if you are smart – and we have,” the manager told Liverpoolfc.com.

“He has speed and ability, has the right amount of arrogance on the football pitch, real bravery to want the ball and influence things. To play for us these are mandatory requirements.

“We are the perfect move for him in this moment as well I think, because he needs to push himself and challenge himself and our environment encourages that. We will want him to express himself but also learn and improve the areas of his game where he can still make progression.

“From our perspective, he is someone who makes a big difference to the squad and team, because he can fit in so many positions in our system. He gives us greater flexibility in how we can use our current players also. This is cool.

“I know him well from his time in Switzerland and especially Germany – I have been a long-time admirer. But the added bonus now is that he knows the Premier League and what it takes to perform in this uniquely intense environment. He also did really well at the World Cup – so he comes to us full of belief and confidence.

“Finally, Xherdan the person will fit in perfectly at Liverpool I believe. He has personality and drive – he is someone who will feed off the positive emotion of our crowd. He joins a dressing room of really good lads and I know they will welcome him with open arms and help him settle and integrate quickly.”


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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #249 on: July 14, 2018, 09:04:07 AM »
;D

Mixed emotions.

The guys I see as a perfect fit are elite in off the ball work rate. Shaqiri is really the only player in the squad that's at odds with that.

In saying that, he has some skills and attributes that are lacking in the squad and when on the ball he's special. Plus Klopp has earned the benefit of the doubt so lets see what's in store. No need for me to piss in people chips.




I don't get how you can have mixed emotions, because even in the worst case, where he doesn't really gell with the team, I would bet we could easily sell him next summer for a minimum of 20 mill. Shaqiri isn't a real transfer target if not for the situation with his release clause, for exactly the reasons you stated. Klopp said it's a no brainer because you don't find players with his talent and breadth of experience for 13 million pounds. The upside might be in question, but the downside is pretty much guaranteed profit I think. You have the opportunity to get a player like this in a position of need for such a cheap price, you take it, no questions asked. It shouldn't even have a real marked effect on who else we can bring in this window, which is great too.
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #250 on: July 14, 2018, 09:06:52 AM »
A no brainer as Klopp said. shaqiri looks truly happy to be with us.  It’s great to have a player with so much talent and so much to prove still in his career.

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« Reply #251 on: July 14, 2018, 09:16:23 AM »
The other thing is, I have to hope that maybe this season with an actual world class rather than working class midfield, we will have the ability to better dominate possession through the middle third and not be so reliant on counter attacking for offensive output. Basically a more well rounded side, like Man City. If we can do that, I think it would place slighly less emphasis on off the ball work rate, particularly for the players in the front three. I think we can afford to have a player who isn't quite so inclined to work hard tracking back. We don't know exactly how the transformed midfield will function though.

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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #252 on: July 14, 2018, 09:18:28 AM »
;D

Mixed emotions.

The guys I see as a perfect fit are elite in off the ball work rate. Shaqiri is really the only player in the squad that's at odds with that.

In saying that, he has some skills and attributes that are lacking in the squad and when on the ball he's special. Plus Klopp has earned the benefit of the doubt so lets see what's in store. No need for me to piss in people chips.

I think it's a fair assessment, though personally I think his workrate isn't as bad as a lot of people make it out to be.

I'm not sure how productive his Liverpool career will be. But some players, like Smicer for example, will always be remebered for scoring goals in decisive moments, regardless of how their career panned out with us.

Shaqiri, if all else fails (I do have high hopes for him btw), is one of those rare players capable of the spectacular in crucial moments. Imagine if he comes off the bench and scores the crucial goal to send us to the CL final, for example. That alone I think will justify his price tag.

But again, I think he will be more than that personally.

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« Reply #254 on: July 14, 2018, 09:38:02 AM »
Good signing for £13m.
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #255 on: July 14, 2018, 09:46:27 AM »
Good signing at a fantastic price in this crazy market. Brings something a little different  to the squad. Welcome to the greatest club in the world and prove the doubters wrong with hard work
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« Reply #256 on: July 14, 2018, 09:47:32 AM »
Looking forward to Mane doing the folded arms celebration.
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« Reply #257 on: July 14, 2018, 09:51:42 AM »
Wow. Nice. A good signing. Scores quite a few goals from distance too. Adds more variety to our front 3.
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« Reply #258 on: July 14, 2018, 09:55:09 AM »
Looking forward to Mane doing the folded arms celebration.

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« Reply #259 on: July 14, 2018, 09:57:38 AM »
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« Reply #260 on: July 14, 2018, 10:00:34 AM »
Wouldn't be surprised if we saw him a bit earlier than we think. Remember Firmino Salah & Mane may not be up to speed or fit for the first games as they are coming back a few weeks later than everyone else right?.

Interesting how Klopp mentions "bravery" and "arrogance"....

Welcome Shaq :)

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« Reply #261 on: July 14, 2018, 10:00:54 AM »
But can he do it on a cold and wet night in Stoke....... oh hang on.

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« Reply #262 on: July 14, 2018, 10:03:39 AM »
I have to admit I had reservations about signing him when our interest was reported, but now he is here he gets 100% backing. Reading the interviews from both Klopp and the lad himself it seems like a good fit for us, and he will bring a lot of the qualities we miss since Coutinho left us. Great at set pieces, one v one situations, great at carrying the ball long distances and also has a hell of a long range shot on him. This will be ideal v packed defences I feel, where they can stick 10 men on the edge of the box but if we have a player who can stick it in the top corner from 30 yards then its a hell of a weapon to have.

Welcome to the greatest club in the world Xherdan!

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« Reply #263 on: July 14, 2018, 10:08:45 AM »
I have to admit I had reservations about signing him when our interest was reported, but now he is here he gets 100% backing. Reading the interviews from both Klopp and the lad himself it seems like a good fit for us, and he will bring a lot of the qualities we miss since Coutinho left us. Great at set pieces, one v one situations, great at carrying the ball long distances and also has a hell of a long range shot on him. This will be ideal v packed defences I feel, where they can stick 10 men on the edge of the box but if we have a player who can stick it in the top corner from 30 yards then its a hell of a weapon to have.

Welcome to the greatest club in the world Xherdan!

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« Reply #264 on: July 14, 2018, 10:10:20 AM »
Love this signing, massive upgrade on our other options.
Just can't wait for the season to start, we are going to play every team with as good or better squad this year. 👍

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« Reply #265 on: July 14, 2018, 10:12:35 AM »
Didnt realise the lad has quite a bit of silverware to his name too. Winning mentality  :champ
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« Reply #266 on: July 14, 2018, 10:39:36 AM »
I don't get how you can have mixed emotions, because even in the worst case, where he doesn't really gell with the team, I would bet we could easily sell him next summer for a minimum of 20 mill. Shaqiri isn't a real transfer target if not for the situation with his release clause, for exactly the reasons you stated. Klopp said it's a no brainer because you don't find players with his talent and breadth of experience for 13 million pounds. The upside might be in question, but the downside is pretty much guaranteed profit I think. You have the opportunity to get a player like this in a position of need for such a cheap price, you take it, no questions asked. It shouldn't even have a real marked effect on who else we can bring in this window, which is great too.

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« Reply #267 on: July 14, 2018, 10:42:55 AM »
Welcome Xherdan!  ..some more encouraging stats;

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77 – Only six players created more chances than Xherdan Shaqiri in the Premier League last season, while the Swiss created 15 more than any Liverpool player (Mo Salah, 62). Artistry.


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« Reply #268 on: July 14, 2018, 10:56:07 AM »


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« Reply #270 on: July 14, 2018, 10:59:02 AM »
Love this signing, massive upgrade on our other options.
Just can't wait for the season to start, we are going to play every team with as good or better squad this year. 👍

Yer, its a positive one. At 26, Shaqiri is in his prime. He is allot better than putting Lallana and Chamberlain in the front three, which we resorted to at times last season because we had no depth. Think expectations are low, because of his reputation, he came from a relegated club, he's been around the block a few times and in today's footballing world, a lowish fee. Wouldn't be surprised to see another attacking player come in too. Evolving the squad and keeping it fresh.
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« Reply #271 on: July 14, 2018, 11:15:05 AM »
He has played lots in PL, and previously for other clubs. All his pros and cons are well known by now, so I trust Klopps judgment. Doesn't get lower risk than this IMO.

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« Reply #272 on: July 14, 2018, 11:20:28 AM »
Welcome Xherdan!  ..some more encouraging stats;

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77 – Only six players created more chances than Xherdan Shaqiri in the Premier League last season, while the Swiss created 15 more than any Liverpool player (Mo Salah, 62). Artistry.



About this chart, does this highlight it as being a weakness of ours?

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« Reply #274 on: July 14, 2018, 11:27:19 AM »
About this chart, does this highlight it as being a weakness of ours?

I think if any of Coutinho, Oxlade or Lallana had played a full season for us they would be on there. Also, our front three seem to share around the creating duties (even if not the finishing) so nobody would stand out in this regard.

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« Reply #275 on: July 14, 2018, 11:32:09 AM »
About this chart, does this highlight it as being a weakness of ours?
Id say it says a lot about the quality of our MF last season. I would say though if Coutinho had played a full season I'm certain he would have been on there. So it's another reason this signing makes complete sense.

I prefer to focus on what the guy does rather than those focusing on his perceived misgivings.

As the boss said its a no brainer.
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« Reply #276 on: July 14, 2018, 11:44:19 AM »
Just to add to the chances created chart these are his list of honours

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Swiss Super League: 2009–10, 2010–11, 2011–12
Swiss Cup: 2009–10, 2011–12

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DFB-Pokal: 2012–13, 2013–14
DFL-Supercup: 2012
UEFA Champions League: 2012–13
UEFA Super Cup: 2013
FIFA Club World Cup: 2013

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Swiss Golden Player Award "SFAP Golden Player": 2012
Swiss Golden Player Award "Best Young Player": 2012
DFB-Pokal top goalscorer: 2012–13
DFB-Pokal top assist provider: 2012–13
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« Reply #277 on: July 14, 2018, 11:45:33 AM »
About this chart, does this highlight it as being a weakness of ours?

We split our chances well. I wouldn't say goalscoring was a problem for us last season in general and that's ultimately what chance creation is for. If anything I'd say it makes a strong area stronger.

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« Reply #278 on: July 14, 2018, 12:08:50 PM »
Welcome Xherdan!  ..some more encouraging stats;

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77 – Only six players created more chances than Xherdan Shaqiri in the Premier League last season, while the Swiss created 15 more than any Liverpool player (Mo Salah, 62). Artistry.

That chart gives me Adam and Downing flashbacks.

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« Reply #279 on: July 14, 2018, 12:10:45 PM »
he'll be awesome and reckon he will play in the first XI a lot more than expected. He will be playing with such amazing attackers who create so much - stoke were a bunch of has beens and so unprofessional. He will go up a level here for sure.