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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12520 on: January 28, 2020, 04:33:25 PM »
to be honest all of this just makes me happier I've got cup games on my card going back years because at least I've got some form of guaranteed games each season and I know roughly when they will be.

Aye. Just got my email through to complete. Will have to look at it from all sides and weigh up the pros and cons.

Iím on 13+ so can only see if affecting the 3 new teams. Again, Iíve been good at getting them in the bulks this season.

Like Iíve worked my butt off to get my BF to what looks like 12 this season, maybe 13 if I get Chelsea... so imagine if I in the ballot he goes down to 0 next season.

But then I have to think the only reason I have been able to do it is because I have good flexible working.

Like I say pros and cons.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12521 on: January 28, 2020, 04:42:37 PM »
Any tickets popped up today at all?

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12522 on: January 28, 2020, 04:45:05 PM »
I have said it before in various places including to the club that the refreshing for a drop is the issue.

The way it should work is:
Bulk sales as per usual.
Locals as per usual.
Additional sale as per usual.

Still havenít got one?
Join the ballot by 5pm day of the additional sale (timeframe doesnít have to be 5pm) and then you get allocated a number like you would for a cup final.
Once a return comes in it gets allocated to ballot position number 1, 2, 3 etc... 
24 hours to buy it otherwise you lose it.


This works better for those who canít spend all day refreshing and in my eyes it is the fairest way.
Obviously others wonít agree.

Edit: criteria of 4+ and 13+ (subject to change) still apply for certain games.

100% agree with this. 

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12523 on: January 28, 2020, 04:47:23 PM »
Never been successful in the bulk sales. How does it work?

You buy tickets for the first half of the season in July.

If you can't make the game when it comes around months later, it's tough basically.

There is no process to give your ticket back like there is with season ticket holders.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12524 on: January 28, 2020, 04:49:39 PM »
I have said it before in various places including to the club that the refreshing for a drop is the issue.

The way it should work is:
Bulk sales as per usual.
Locals as per usual.
Additional sale as per usual.

Still havenít got one?
Join the ballot by 5pm day of the additional sale (timeframe doesnít have to be 5pm) and then you get allocated a number like you would for a cup final.
Once a return comes in it gets allocated to ballot position number 1, 2, 3 etc... 
24 hours to buy it otherwise you lose it.


This works better for those who canít spend all day refreshing and in my eyes it is the fairest way.
Obviously others wonít agree.

Edit: criteria of 4+ and 13+ (subject to change) still apply for certain games.
Edit 2: I only have 2 credits this season from bulk sales.

I like this idea. Will mention it on the form if there is a comments box.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12525 on: January 28, 2020, 04:51:12 PM »
I've just received the email as well.

Maybe we're all getting it gradually, or it might be everyone who's bought a ticket this season

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« Reply #12526 on: January 28, 2020, 04:51:31 PM »
You buy tickets for the first half of the season in July.

If you can't make the game when it comes around months later, it's tough basically.

There is no process to give your ticket back like there is with season ticket holders.

They changed that recently so that members can return tickets. Must be done no later than 14 days before the match https://faq.liverpoolfc.com/portal/kb/articles/how-do-i-return-my-match-tickets

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12527 on: January 28, 2020, 04:55:21 PM »
They changed that recently so that members can return tickets. Must be done no later than 14 days before the match https://faq.liverpoolfc.com/portal/kb/articles/how-do-i-return-my-match-tickets

Did they announce that somewhere, or do they just expect us to keep an eye on the FAQs all the time in case they change?

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12528 on: January 28, 2020, 04:59:28 PM »

Given that this proposal only relates to the bulk sales and not additional member and late sales, those who work hard F5ing all day will still be able to do it.

By replacing the bulk sale with a ballot, it should make no real difference other than saving all of us 2+ hours of our time, twice a year. The only people who will miss out are those who have worked out how to hack the queue and get onto the ticketing site with alarming frequency, which isn't as outlandish as it sounds. As someone who has only ever been over an hour in a bulk sale, I'm all for it, even if it means the club telling me which stand I sit in and which single game (if that) a season I will get.



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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12529 on: January 28, 2020, 05:01:06 PM »
Did they announce that somewhere, or do they just expect us to keep an eye on the FAQs all the time in case they change?
It's always been there. I've returned tickets for years that way.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12530 on: January 28, 2020, 05:01:11 PM »
Just completed the survey. I'm totally against the ballot so have reflected so in my response.

The odds of being successful in the ballot are ridiculously low

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« Reply #12531 on: January 28, 2020, 05:02:10 PM »
Given that this proposal only relates to the bulk sales and not additional member and late sales, those who work hard F5ing all day will still be able to do it.

By replacing the bulk sale with a ballot, it should make no real difference other than saving all of us 2+ hours of our time, twice a year. The only people who will miss out are those who have worked out how to hack the queue and get onto the ticketing site with alarming frequency, which isn't as outlandish as it sounds. As someone who has only ever been over an hour in a bulk sale, I'm all for it, even if it means the club telling me which stand I sit in and which single game (if that) a season I will get.




I'm basically with you there, but I do think it would increase demand, so for selfish reasons I think I'm against it.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12532 on: January 28, 2020, 05:04:14 PM »
Just completed the survey. I'm totally against the ballot so have reflected so in my response.

The odds of being successful in the ballot are ridiculously low

Aye, but you've worked out how to queue for less than 5 mins each time  ;)

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12533 on: January 28, 2020, 05:04:53 PM »
Aye, but you've worked out how to queue for less than 5 mins each time  ;)

Haha not quite that but I seem to have a good system in place.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12534 on: January 28, 2020, 05:05:33 PM »
The ballot sounds a shite idea.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12535 on: January 28, 2020, 05:07:37 PM »
If the club do it they need to tell us numbers.

How many members there are and how many tickets are available

Then you'll see just how low the odds are

Bearing in mind there will be shit loads of people entering this who don't normally even bother tying for tickets because they assume its impossible or they just cant due to work etc

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12536 on: January 28, 2020, 05:09:42 PM »
Hard to see whether this will just be for the bulks or whether those unsuccessful will go on a waiting list and any season ticket returns will be offered down the waiting list?

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12537 on: January 28, 2020, 05:11:02 PM »
I've managed to get the square root of f*ck all in the bulk sales since they brought them in so any alternative to that is worth a try as far as me getting tickets is concerned.

Can't we go back to postals? I liked postals.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12538 on: January 28, 2020, 05:12:56 PM »
If the club do it they need to tell us numbers.

How many members there are and how many tickets are available

Then you'll see just how low the odds are

Bearing in mind there will be shit loads of people entering this who don't normally even bother tying for tickets because they assume its impossible or they just cant due to work etc

I agree about the numbers. They will obviously be reluctant as they are already flogging tens of thousands of memberships to people (including lots of kids) who have no real chance of ever getting a ticket. But they should do it whether or not they go through with this change.


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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12539 on: January 28, 2020, 05:16:04 PM »
I've managed to get the square root of f*ck all in the bulk sales since they brought them in so any alternative to that is worth a try as far as me getting tickets is concerned.

Can't we go back to postals? I liked postals.

I loved postals :D Always used to have amazing luck, and they always used to be done a day before the general sale so you didn't need to try in that if successful!

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« Reply #12540 on: January 28, 2020, 05:17:16 PM »
I loved postals :D Always used to have amazing luck, and they always used to be done a day before the general sale so you didn't need to try in that if successful!

The joy of seeing your stamped addressed envelope on the mat  ;D
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12541 on: January 28, 2020, 05:25:05 PM »


If this is the case you've no chance of ever getting 19.

So after working your arse off for years to build up your credits, they now want to throw you in with 100,000 others for some games

So if like this season we could possibly win a league for the first time in 30 years, or win the league again against a Villa or other Cat C game, you're not there coz you missed out on a ballot to somebody who's just bought a membership

I'd rather take my chances for Cat C on the current system than have a 1 in 11 or more chance in a ballot

Completely agree. This just sounds like an easy way for more daytrippers to get in. They probably don't want all us members on 13-19 in every week. Put the effort in and most times you'll get the tickets you want. I'll take that over pot luck in a ballot.
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« Reply #12542 on: January 28, 2020, 06:02:43 PM »
Just completed the survey. I'm totally against the ballot so have reflected so in my response.

The odds of being successful in the ballot are ridiculously low

From your point of view, yes.

However, given the fact I have never got in any of the bulks, ever, on 20+ connections - I'll take the ballot, no problem.

Fail with that, then I'll do the normal late sales F5 shite. That is if I don't get another 3 games this season in order to get to 13+ !
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12543 on: January 28, 2020, 06:24:01 PM »
From your point of view, yes.

However, given the fact I have never got in any of the bulks, ever, on 20+ connections - I'll take the ballot, no problem.

Fail with that, then I'll do the normal late sales F5 shite. That is if I don't get another 3 games this season in order to get to 13+ !

How many seasons have you failed at?
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« Reply #12544 on: January 28, 2020, 06:42:53 PM »
How many seasons have you failed at?

5 years? Off the top of my head...

Went on quite a lot many years ago, then couldnít as working away wouldnít allow it. Job change last year meant I could go through the F5 pain but finished on 12 like a couple on here - devastating.

Hopeful of getting another 3 after Southampton, but still shitting myself over them potentially moving the threshold even higher.

Someone correct me if Iím wrong, but Iím almost certain itís been at 15+ to guarantee tickets before.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12545 on: January 28, 2020, 07:18:22 PM »
Fuck the ballot, the current system isnít perfect but itís the best theyíll get

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12546 on: January 28, 2020, 09:10:35 PM »
By replacing the bulk sale with a ballot, it should make no real difference other than saving all of us 2+ hours of our time, twice a year. The only people who will miss out are those who have worked out how to hack the queue and get onto the ticketing site with alarming frequency, which isn't as outlandish as it sounds. As someone who has only ever been over an hour in a bulk sale, I'm all for it, even if it means the club telling me which stand I sit in and which single game (if that) a season I will get.




So essentially you want to be able to be handed tickets without having to put any effort in? Imagine all the extra thousands who would just think "Sod it, might as well have a go if it's that easy". We haven't all worked out some kind of "hack" but a lot of us are prepared to keep up the hard work trying and being rewarded for it. A ballot would take all that away, and God knows also if it might affect the atmosphere in the ground. Also - if you're not successful in the ballot you'll end up spending far more than 2 hours twice a year on your F5 button, if you even have a life that allows it.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12547 on: January 28, 2020, 09:13:31 PM »
Image the fume in the threads on here with all the "unsuccessful" emails

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« Reply #12548 on: January 28, 2020, 09:19:54 PM »
Image the fume in the threads on here with all the "unsuccessful" emails

;D

There's probably a lot of people thinking this sounds a good idea who haven't been through the pain of a final or semi-final ballot.

And then seeing your waiting list number... ;D
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12549 on: January 28, 2020, 09:22:29 PM »
Image the fume in the threads on here with all the "unsuccessful" emails

9 or 10 at a time :lmao
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« Reply #12550 on: January 28, 2020, 09:23:32 PM »
;D

There's probably a lot of people thinking this sounds a good idea who haven't been through the pain of a final or semi-final ballot.

And then seeing your waiting list number... ;D

Also it's a ballot, so by it's very nature depending on the demand there will still be some who get 0. Though a ballot for 19 games individually is fairer than loads in for a one off - as at least there's a chance you come out a couple of times in the list for a ticket.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12551 on: January 28, 2020, 10:25:17 PM »
Haha not quite that but I seem to have a good system in place.

Don't want the boat rocked  ;D

Me too

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« Reply #12552 on: January 28, 2020, 10:27:14 PM »
Image the fume in the threads on here with all the "unsuccessful" emails

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

people will always find something to moan about.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12553 on: January 28, 2020, 10:52:24 PM »
Iíve seen Both sides of the ticket system now

I had a job until December that allowed me to refresh daily for ticket drops- I only missed City

Since December a new job and I canít refresh for matches - zero matches

So yes the current system works for a lot of people but having seen the other side of the fence I understand peopleís frustrations

Whatever system is implemented wonít please all but people spending days a year hammering F5 canít be the most sensible answer.

There needs to be a middle ground somewhere that rewards a bit of effort but prevents people getting zero matches

Iím fortunate as Iím 900 odd on season ticket list so if this renaming exercise doesnít get me there Iím only a season or two away so Iím speaking from a neutral stance really

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« Reply #12554 on: January 29, 2020, 08:51:56 AM »
5 years? Off the top of my head...

Went on quite a lot many years ago, then couldnít as working away wouldnít allow it. Job change last year meant I could go through the F5 pain but finished on 12 like a couple on here - devastating.

Hopeful of getting another 3 after Southampton, but still shitting myself over them potentially moving the threshold even higher.

Someone correct me if Iím wrong, but Iím almost certain itís been at 15+ to guarantee tickets before.
It went to 15 when the allocation was cut during the main stand expansion. If anything it should go down with 1000 cards cancelled post Fan Update

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12555 on: January 29, 2020, 09:02:44 AM »
It will be so much harder to get tickets if they do this ballot - If all it takes is for somebody to fill in a form and sit back then there will be literally tens of thousands probably trying for a few hundred (at best) tickets.

How will it also work with tickets that get returned on the morning of the game? Will they expect everybody to have an eye on their phone / emails so they can check for the ticket notification and pay instantly? There will probably be loads of people who apply half-arsed and then swerve it





I've said it time and time again, the only way to sort this ticket situation fairly: Straighteners in the Sandon car park

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« Reply #12556 on: January 29, 2020, 09:20:13 AM »

I've said it time and time again, the only way to sort this ticket situation fairly: Straighteners in the Sandon car park
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« Reply #12557 on: January 29, 2020, 09:20:54 AM »
It went to 15 when the allocation was cut during the main stand expansion. If anything it should go down with 1000 cards cancelled post Fan Update

Zero chance of it going down, there's way more than the original 5000 with 13 credits now, as shown woth what was left over after the first sale, plus some being buying hospo and selling on to get to 13 too

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« Reply #12558 on: January 29, 2020, 09:51:43 AM »
There definitely appears to be a correlation between success in bulk sales and pro and anti-ballot standpoints ;D

I think I only tried a postal a few times cos I was at school then but weren't they sort of like a ballot? Don't think I was ever successful in my attempts!

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« Reply #12559 on: January 29, 2020, 10:01:43 AM »
There definitely appears to be a correlation between success in bulk sales and pro and anti-ballot standpoints ;D

I think I only tried a postal a few times cos I was at school then but weren't they sort of like a ballot? Don't think I was ever successful in my attempts!

I think even with a postal you would have had to have been a bit productive in terms of sending it off etc so it would have filtered out a lot of the half-arsed types. My worry with the ballot is any Tom, Dick or Harry can just click a button and be in the chance of getting a ticket. Surely that is going to attract hoards of people clogging it up