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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #440 on: May 24, 2019, 11:20:04 AM »
Problem is now you need an allocation of over 5k for anything to drop to STH as everyone with Rome will I assume continue to buy. .

Does any team give an allocation of over 5k?
San Siro maybe? Not many big stadiums, most will be in pot 1 or 2 as well

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #441 on: May 24, 2019, 12:31:58 PM »
Problem is now you need an allocation of over 5k for anything to drop to STH as everyone with Rome will I assume continue to buy. .

Does any team give an allocation of over 5k?

As of next season the European away collection ratio is going to increase - you will probably still be able to put in peoples names (that won't stop untill after the amnesty) so there will be a lot more available if you really want to go

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #442 on: May 24, 2019, 05:10:14 PM »
Exactly this especially as people now know it guarantees you a final ticket. Not sure who else gives 5k+. IIRC it was surprising at the time at the size of the Roma allocation.

One away has always guaranteed you a final ticket, it’s nothing new.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #443 on: May 24, 2019, 06:57:14 PM »
As of next season the European away collection ratio is going to increase - you will probably still be able to put in peoples names (that won't stop untill after the amnesty) so there will be a lot more available if you really want to go
Where've you seen that ?

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #444 on: May 24, 2019, 07:09:48 PM »
Where've you seen that ?
Not sure it's stated anywhere but it's a fair assumption to make when you look at the trend...200 in Munich, 400 in Porto, 600 in Barca...clearly the end game is 100% collection.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #445 on: June 4, 2019, 06:40:21 PM »
After the win on Saturday will we ever see a euro away go to zero credits?

Who do we need to draw to stand a chance?

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #446 on: June 4, 2019, 07:32:06 PM »
After the win on Saturday will we ever see a euro away go to zero credits?

Who do we need to draw to stand a chance?

Someone as east as you can go where club insist on proof of travel is our only chance

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #447 on: June 4, 2019, 08:12:54 PM »
After the win on Saturday will we ever see a euro away go to zero credits?

Who do we need to draw to stand a chance?
Any team from Ukraine, Turkey or Russia I think. 3 already qualified that we can get with 3 more teams in the qualifiers. Zenits new stadium would’ve been good but they are in Pot1

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #448 on: June 4, 2019, 08:42:09 PM »
Oh yeah, like us!!!  I'd totally forgotten about that :D
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #449 on: June 10, 2019, 07:27:01 PM »
Any team from Ukraine, Turkey or Russia I think. 3 already qualified that we can get with 3 more teams in the qualifiers. Zenits new stadium would’ve been good but they are in Pot1

My prayers are mainly for a string of super unglamorous fixtures in a bush somewhere Far East that I can get a credit on.

Seems highly unlikely thinking about it. There’s about 6,000 on one credit now. People will just find Russian/Ukrainian reds to collect on their behalf for the credit. We are blockbuster. People want to watch us in every country.
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #450 on: June 10, 2019, 07:53:28 PM »
The Russian ones basically didn’t allow transfers for Spartak.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #451 on: June 10, 2019, 07:58:35 PM »
My prayers are mainly for a string of super unglamorous fixtures in a bush somewhere Far East that I can get a credit on.

Seems highly unlikely thinking about it. There’s about 6,000 on one credit now. People will just find Russian/Ukrainian reds to collect on their behalf for the credit. We are blockbuster. People want to watch us in every country.
Collection and proof of travel will put many off. Good chance we draw at least one team East of Berlin

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #452 on: June 10, 2019, 08:48:27 PM »
no chance of getting one any time soon.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #453 on: June 11, 2019, 10:19:37 AM »
The Russian ones basically didn’t allow transfers for Spartak.

Ahh. Thought different. Shame we won't get Zenit and their big new stadium.
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #454 on: June 11, 2019, 10:21:19 AM »
Ahh. Thought different. Shame we won't get Zenit and their big new stadium.

I think you meant to write: thank fuck we can't get Zenit and their lunatic hooligans again.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #455 on: June 11, 2019, 10:26:11 AM »
I think you meant to write: thank fuck we can't get Zenit and their lunatic hooligans again.

My Stone Island jacket proves I'm a hard arse mate.  ;)
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #456 on: June 11, 2019, 10:48:23 AM »
My Stone Island jacket proves I'm a hard arse mate.  ;)
Did you go last time? Mates that went said that it was by far the worse ever.
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #457 on: June 11, 2019, 11:46:07 AM »
Ahh. Thought different. Shame we won't get Zenit and their big new stadium.

Lokomotiv Moscow are in pot 4 I think.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #458 on: June 11, 2019, 12:18:50 PM »
Lokomotiv Moscow are in pot 4 I think.

They are, Shakthar in Pot 2 and Kiev in Pot 3 if they get through

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #459 on: June 11, 2019, 12:45:19 PM »
Did you go last time? Mates that went said that it was by far the worse ever.

Thankfully not by the sounds of things!
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #460 on: June 11, 2019, 12:51:52 PM »
Did you go last time? Mates that went said that it was by far the worse ever.

Zenit was a bit scary last time...and fucking freezing
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #461 on: June 11, 2019, 01:27:21 PM »
St Petersburg Metro memorable  :shocked

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #462 on: June 12, 2019, 01:43:39 PM »
They are, Shakthar in Pot 2 and Kiev in Pot 3 if they get through

No visa required to travel to Ukraine from the UK, and can’t see them having full collection in Ukraine either. I think a Russian team is the only possibility.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #463 on: June 12, 2019, 01:56:54 PM »
No visa required to travel to Ukraine from the UK, and can’t see them having full collection in Ukraine either. I think a Russian team is the only possibility.

It's gone up steadily though after each round last season. Would expect at least 50/50 for first game, wherever we're drawn.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #464 on: June 12, 2019, 06:47:21 PM »
I'll keep posting this in threads, but the collection thing needs careful thought.
A number of people in Madird felt extremely unsafe exiting the hotel after collecting tickets. I don't know if any were targeted.
But it's a bit unfair to put people through that and it needs adding to the discussion around collections.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #465 on: June 12, 2019, 07:31:46 PM »
I'll keep posting this in threads, but the collection thing needs careful thought.
A number of people in Madird felt extremely unsafe exiting the hotel after collecting tickets. I don't know if any were targeted.
But it's a bit unfair to put people through that and it needs adding to the discussion around collections.

It’s definitely doable , United manage it.
Every ticket should be collection for all aways.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #466 on: June 13, 2019, 06:13:49 AM »
Think people loitering outside don’t help. If I had collected in Madrid I’d have just done an Uber back to my hotel or somewhere. Is a bit of an easy target in games like that.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #467 on: June 13, 2019, 08:33:48 AM »
I'll keep posting this in threads, but the collection thing needs careful thought.
A number of people in Madird felt extremely unsafe exiting the hotel after collecting tickets. I don't know if any were targeted.
But it's a bit unfair to put people through that and it needs adding to the discussion around collections.

That was a final though at a regular away your not going to get those sort of problems

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #468 on: June 13, 2019, 08:34:35 AM »
I'll keep posting this in threads, but the collection thing needs careful thought.
A number of people in Madird felt extremely unsafe exiting the hotel after collecting tickets. I don't know if any were targeted.
But it's a bit unfair to put people through that and it needs adding to the discussion around collections.

It’s a valid point because it means the ticket office are indirectly assisting a situation they’re trying to discourage.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #469 on: June 13, 2019, 10:34:59 AM »
Collection is a load of shite as far as getting credits in the hands of people who go if they still let you transfer the ticket to someone else.

Problem is, people have been going on other people’s tickets for years.Me and me mate got season tickets about 8 years ago and built up the credits on them while maintaining our credits on our old cards  with our mates using them. Our mates still use our old fancards to this day. We’d happily transfer the credits.

They need a one off amnesty where people can transfer credits to whoever’s been using the tickets. After that, people can’t transfer tickets and proof of travel with sanctions / bans / loss of credits for people found to be faking is much better than the distraction / security risk of collection.
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #470 on: June 13, 2019, 10:38:41 AM »
Collection is a load of shite as far as getting credits in the hands of people who go if they still let you transfer the ticket to someone else.

Problem is, people have been going on other people’s tickets for years.Me and me mate got season tickets about 8 years ago and built up the credits on them while maintaining our credits on our old cards  with our mates using them. Our mates still use our old fancards to this day. We’d happily transfer the credits.

They need a one off amnesty where people can transfer credits to whoever’s been using the tickets. After that, people can’t transfer tickets and proof of travel with sanctions / bans / loss of credits for people found to be faking is much better than the distraction / security risk of collection.
Problem is transferring those credits will hard, tracking who has gone to what game etc. Would say there’s hundreds in this situation too so it’s hard

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #471 on: June 13, 2019, 10:42:06 AM »
Problem is transferring those credits will hard, tracking who has gone to what game etc. Would say there’s hundreds in this situation too so it’s hard

The cardholder nominates who they’re being transferred to. Or the club do it based on the names submitted in the past. I don’t see that as a difficult bit.
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #472 on: June 13, 2019, 10:49:21 AM »
The cardholder nominates who they’re being transferred to. Or the club do it based on the names submitted in the past. I don’t see that as a difficult bit.
Leaving it with cardholders to pick who they want isn’t really the answers. All sorts of disputes will arise.I agree with whoever names have been submitted but there’s no way of knowing whether they actually travelled either.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #473 on: June 13, 2019, 10:52:50 AM »
Leaving it with cardholders to pick who they want isn’t really the answers. All sorts of disputes will arise.I agree with whoever names have been submitted but there’s no way of knowing whether they actually travelled either.

The point is that it’s a one off. After that only the credit holder is entitled to buy tickets. That way, sales start filtering down to people buying on their own cards.
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #474 on: June 13, 2019, 10:54:50 AM »
The point is that it’s a one off. After that only the credit holder is entitled to buy tickets. That way, sales start filtering down to people buying on their own cards.
I agree we need to get people buying off their own cards but I don’t think a 1 off transfer of credits is the a answer. People could easily look to sell a loaded Euro away card before the transfer

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #475 on: June 13, 2019, 11:40:14 AM »
I agree we need to get people buying off their own cards but I don’t think a 1 off transfer of credits is the a answer. People could easily look to sell a loaded Euro away card before the transfer

So what?
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #476 on: June 13, 2019, 01:40:51 PM »
I like Barry's idea in principle but could be abused a bit I guess. Would end up with quite a few potentially on one or two credits their mate transferred to them and the requirements for even the less glamorous games (or bigger allocations) shooting up.

I'd love a credit but grateful mates made here and at games have helped.
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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #477 on: June 13, 2019, 02:09:01 PM »
So what?
Says the guy with a couple loaded fan cards

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #478 on: June 13, 2019, 02:10:40 PM »
If people sold a card with full credits off it isn't really inconveniencing you though. Just means it's a different person ahead of you presuming they're a head of you.

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Re: Euro away without credits
« Reply #479 on: June 13, 2019, 02:13:51 PM »
If people sold a card with full credits off it isn't really inconveniencing you though. Just means it's a different person ahead of you presuming they're a head of you.
Everyone is ahead of me on this. My point is could you imagine people selling fully loaded home cards every season, then again it probably happens so who cares. Not like a Euro away card wouldn’t be worth couple thousand