Author Topic: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')  (Read 62754 times)

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #280 on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:30 PM »
Today hurts just because it was a perfect storm of what's been wrong with us for fucking YEARS now.

Goalkeeper a joke, centre backs a joke, slow uncreative midfield a joke, silly cynical fouls a joke, conceding set pieces, not clearing the lines, not playing to the whistle or knowing what a proper offside trap is.

Coutinho is rightly going to fuck off. Along with Firmino and Mane and Salah eventually. Jurgen is gonna fuck off despite him being utterly liable for not fixing glaring issues since he came in.

We are shit.

The only players who came out of this today with any credit were Albie, Gomez and Salah. Coutinho's attitude stunk the place out today. From the moment he was fouled early in the game and didn't get any decisions it just looked like he couldn't be bothered.
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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #281 on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:31 PM »
1-4.
Painful to watch our defence in this game. Fortunately I couldn't find anything to throw at the tv when they acored the fourth. It was so simple. A high ball in, I think we had three players first to the ball and of cours we fucked it up so they could score. Our defence is an absolute shambles and with that said, I still think Matip and Gomez did alright. We just keep gifting our opponents easy chances.

We deserve a lot of stick for this (defensive) performance. I want to try and be positive. This was not a must win game. If we look at the table, we have played a lot of top half teams. If we can beat the ones on the bottom half, we can catch up. But today it feels like we have a defensive game worthy of relegation side.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #282 on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:33 PM »
Zero positives? Moreno was good, Salah showed commitment, Grugic got some minutes and the jury came back and it's over for Lovren and Mignolet.

Yeah I think Klopp has finally realised they aren't good enough and will punish them by making sure they start every future game this season.
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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #283 on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:33 PM »
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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #284 on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:33 PM »
All this talk of January is hilarious by the way

Whens the last time we actually went all out to sort our problems in january instead of just beamoaning the lack of 'quality' available during that transfer window. Zero faith we will solve problems then

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #285 on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:45 PM »
We should have at least two defensive players ready for 1st January.


A centre back and keeper at the minimum - the discussions should be happening now

Sadly there's a lot of football to be played before then with this group

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #286 on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:46 PM »
You just can't legislate for defensive errors and it appears prima facea to be systemic at the moment but it's still largely built on individual mistakes. Our defending simply has to become smarter.

Not taking away anything from the Spuds who executed their game plan to perfection and were absolutely clinical in their finishing.

Back to the drawing board for us but there's still plenty in this side to work with. Going to be sordid reading this thread.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #287 on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:49 PM »
First post - FSG

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #288 on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:54 PM »
Spurs were actually pretty poor then

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #289 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:00 PM »
After the Lovren substitution I think we were the better side. But there's no way we should be gifting that number of good chances to the opposition. Again.
I thought we were too, until they scored before HT. I still think they looked more likely to score though, and their defence is night and day compared to ours. Even without the daft mistakes, we'd had done well to get anything from that game.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #290 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:00 PM »
Let's be honest we are an average team that can play attractive football at times.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #291 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:07 PM »
Sure someone has photoshopped Mignolet's hands.
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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #293 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:11 PM »
We have a director of football who doesn't communicate with the fans.

Surely someone needs to explain wtf went on this summer. It's utter madness.

I seriously doubt Edwards has anything intelligent to say. 

Whats do they say?  Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #294 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:27 PM »
Time to seriously change things up Jurgen.  Enough of the passionless passengers too.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #295 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:28 PM »
I would donate a kidney for a all-around #9 goalscorer like Lewandowski or Kane.

This false 9 thing may work against Maribors of this world, but Firmino has been a non-entity in our big matches this season (Arsenal aside). Zero presence


true but has nothing to do with today's loss

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #296 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:35 PM »
No more fucking excuses this is just not good enough and we have got to go out and fucking spend on better players than this dross, lets see the folks in here defend the indefensible.

Mignolet, Lovren, Klavan, Moreno, Can, Henderson, & a couple more are just not good enough. Massive changes needed. And to make things worse i had to listen to that poxy 'Spurs go marching in'

Bang on, but you know the defence is coming from the enlightened ones.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #297 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:41 PM »
Klopp has brought it on himself by completely fucking up in the summer.
He won't go this season, well probably not, but to see our season over in October, undone by something that everyone could foresee and predict - it fucking hurts. I don't feel anything any longer for this team nor this manager. I have no time to watch people regress and shoot themselves in the foot. Let me know when they decide to take it seriously - in the meantime they can pretend to be a club, pretend to be a team and we'll pretend to be supporters - but it's all bullshit.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #298 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:42 PM »
I admire Klopp's determination to coach decent-to-good players into great players, but I now think it's time the club accelerated the process through the next two transfer windows. Even if it's against Klopp's general wishes. Our somewhat conservative approach to transfers isn't paying off at this point. Lovren and Migs have undone so much other good work in the market. Klopp is a very good coach, but he is not a magician. 

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #299 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:45 PM »
January can't come quick enough

Why? We'll do fuck all.
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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #300 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:49 PM »
No better CBs than Lovren or Matip out there.

Spurs are class. Fair play to them.
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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #301 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:58 PM »
Henderson as DM just isn't working is it? Let's all be honest now! Henderson at DM is just a joke

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #302 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:58 PM »
No consistency in this team. Win in midweek only to fuck it up today.

Their goals they weren’t well worked, it was just a whole load of shit from ourselves and bang they punished us.

The commentary kept banging on about our lack of business in the summer and whilst it seemed the theme, I must admit we didn’t address a glarin issue and today it’s cost us. It will continue to cost us until we learn that our defence isn’t up to the highest possible quality and namely our centre backs.

Also on Emre Can, why oh why on earth was he at RB? just couldnt see the logic in that.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #303 on: October 22, 2017, 06:00:59 PM »
Utter shite. You could've predicted this shite after September 1st. 

How can you say there aren't 5 centre backs better than the ones we have then haul Lovren off after a half hour? Fuck sake.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #304 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:03 PM »
Worst defence I can remember. We got the worse defence in the entire league. The promoted teams and the likes of Burnley have better defenders and keepers then us.

The horror show at the back is affecting the forwards as well. They whole side is devoid of confidence, which is understandable when you see Lovren and Migs doing what they did today. Salah must be fucking fuming.

Sturridge is finished as well. Injuries have took their toll. Doesn't even look like a player anymore.
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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #305 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:05 PM »
MOTM for us today was Santa Claus.
Great game in defence..handed out gifts throughout.
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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #306 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:12 PM »
A centre back and keeper at the minimum - the discussions should be happening now

Sadly there's a lot of football to be played before then with this group
They should have been happening in Jan. It's beyond belief that we've started the season with these lads.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #307 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:17 PM »
i was laughing at Lindedof last night fir his error strewn display.

Sigh* Did not expect ours to be just as bad. Good thing was stupid Mouth did not dare to attack us! LOL
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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #308 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:18 PM »
Rather have Firmino than Harry Kane.
Better than the Invincibles.
Better than Mourinho's Chelsea.
Better than the fabled Man Utd treble team.

I'm alright with that.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #309 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:20 PM »
Time to seriously change things up Jurgen.

To what??!

We have 1 defender and zero keepers in the entire squad who are  definitely good enough... and he's injured.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #310 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:23 PM »
it sounds knee-jerk, but i really want to see ward being given time as our starting keeper. this is probably the best time to make a decision like this. keep using karius for champions league games, but ward deserves a chance now.

unfortunately, unlike the keeper position, we don't have potentially decent options in central defence for now. i don't know, maybe hang on for our dear lives every week till january i suppose....

it really hurts to see such a second half like this. it's not even a contest.

i hope klopp starts to be more ruthless with those who are not up to standard. it's obvious we have quite a few of these.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #311 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:24 PM »
All this talk of January is hilarious by the way

Whens the last time we actually went all out to sort our problems in january instead of just beamoaning the lack of 'quality' available during that transfer window. Zero faith we will solve problems then

Only positive i can see from it is that we could buy 99% of the defenders at the top 6 clubs in each league and it would be a drastic improvement.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #312 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:27 PM »
Mate, i admire your optimism and while you are correct, how can you be confident of a top 4 finish when the defending at this club is some of the worst we have ever seen at the club?

I'm simply pointing out that saying we have no chance with 29 games to go and only 3 points back is utterly ridiculous.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #313 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:37 PM »
No better CBs than Lovren or Matip out there.

Spurs are class. Fair play to them.

They didnt have to do anything. We gifted them all the goals.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #314 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:39 PM »
Absolutely. Klopp stopped him going to Huddersfield for the season on loan where he would have had a full season of Prem footy. Play the lad then as the other 2 are patently not up to it.
Yup. If he can't get a chance now then where are the competition for places Klopp speaks of.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #315 on: October 22, 2017, 06:01:52 PM »
Two years ago when Klopp took over our goalkeeper with shit our defence was shit and our midfield was shit, 2 years later the goalkeeper the defence and midfield are basically the same players so are still shit. Klopp needs to grow a pair of balls and finally sort this crap out and bring in new players for those positions or the owners need to grow a pair of balls and bring in a manager that will sort those positions out.

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #316 on: October 22, 2017, 06:02:02 PM »
Can all the people saying Moreno is one of the reasons we were shite do one? Cheers



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« Reply #317 on: October 22, 2017, 06:02:02 PM »
London 9 Merseyside 3

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #318 on: October 22, 2017, 06:02:07 PM »
The only players who came out of this today with any credit were Albie, Gomez and Salah. Coutinho's attitude stunk the place out today. From the moment he was fouled early in the game and didn't get any decisions it just looked like he couldn't be bothered.

Noticed that about Coutinho as well. He was awful today along with many others

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Re: Spurs 4 v Liverpool 1 (Kane 3' Son 12' Salah 24' Ali 45+2’ Kane 55')
« Reply #319 on: October 22, 2017, 06:02:17 PM »
Why do we persist with emergency Can at RB? He fits the ‘square peg in round hole’ narrative perfectly.
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