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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2840 on: March 14, 2019, 09:03:24 AM »
Blessing in disguise. Looks knackered.
It will be Milner or Gomez. I very much doubt we see Moreno again in a red shirt, he's not even making the bench these days.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2841 on: March 14, 2019, 09:13:04 AM »
Agreed, and maybe it is his work rate that has caused this little dip in his high standards. He just puts 110% to everything he does, goes at full throttle no matter who he's playing against. Too bad we don't seem to have any decent back-up to him against the "lesser" teams of the world. Or PL, rather. 

Klopp doesn't seem to give players a rest against "lesser" clubs. Hell, Gini is playing injured and starts every match.

We do play Fulham next. If there is a club that could be characterised as "lesser" it would be them. Let's see.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2842 on: March 14, 2019, 09:43:16 AM »
Blessing in disguise. Looks knackered.
It will be Milner or Gomez. I very much doubt we see Moreno again in a red shirt, he's not even making the bench these days.

Moreno is not match fit / sharp and I would be surprised if he is considered. On the bench at best. Gomez will need time to get back up to speed. You can cite Matip as an example of a player whose performances get better week by week merely because he is getting game time. I think it is likely to be Milner who steps in.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2843 on: March 14, 2019, 09:48:13 AM »
I bet Milner will play there. Such a shame as it will bring down that the attacks from that side. But overall Milner will put in a decent defensive option.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2844 on: March 14, 2019, 11:18:44 AM »
Agreed, and maybe it is his work rate that has caused this little dip in his high standards. He just puts 110% to everything he does, goes at full throttle no matter who he's playing against. Too bad we don't seem to have any decent back-up to him against the "lesser" teams of the world. Or PL, rather. 

Agree, thought his positioning was questionable a few times with the ball over his head especially with their goal and the only dangerous situation they had in the second half.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2845 on: March 14, 2019, 11:40:48 AM »
Blessing in disguise. Looks knackered.
It will be Milner or Gomez. I very much doubt we see Moreno again in a red shirt, he's not even making the bench these days.

Would be very surprising, Moreno is done here. Wouldn’t really want him in a big game (and they’re all big)

I guess he could replace Robertson by running a note to the referee to say we forfeit?
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2846 on: March 14, 2019, 11:45:19 AM »
Brain fart from him but nothing we can’t cope without. If anything I’d agree with those saying it could be a blessing in disguise as he’s played a lot of football this season and looks jaded.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2847 on: March 14, 2019, 05:14:30 PM »
I have never seen Robertson struggle as much as he did against Gnabry over both the legs. Not all of it could be attributed to our tactics of moving our fullbacks forward. Most of it, especially at Anfield, Gnabry just went past Robbo like he didn't exist. It's really worrying considering some of the giants waiting in the CL on that right wing.

Also despite us winning, Trent was very poor against Ribery. Not sure how many left wingers will have Ribery's tricks, but still it was too easy to break free of Trent. Even against Burnley and Watford, Trent's defensive work was questionable. Early in the season, against more attacking wingers, Klopp used Gomez instead of Trent.

Our Full backs situation is probably the most concerning in our squad.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2848 on: March 14, 2019, 05:17:08 PM »
I have never seen Robertson struggle as much as he did against Gnabry over both the legs. Not all of it could be attributed to our tactics of moving our fullbacks forward. Most of it, especially at Anfield, Gnabry just went past Robbo like he didn't exist. It's really worrying considering some of the giants waiting in the CL on that right wing.

Also despite us winning, Trent was very poor against Ribery. Not sure how many left wingers will have Ribery's tricks, but still it was too easy to break free of Trent. Even against Burnley and Watford, Trent's defensive work was questionable. Early in the season, against more attacking wingers, Klopp used Gomez instead of Trent.

Our Full backs situation is probably the most concerning in our squad.

Jeez, an incredible amount of nonsense in there!

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2849 on: March 14, 2019, 05:26:42 PM »
Our Full backs situation is probably the most concerning in our squad.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2850 on: March 14, 2019, 05:32:24 PM »
Jeez, an incredible amount of nonsense in there!

If you creep slowly back from the absolute claptrap in that post, there is some truth in the last statement. Our system relies on our fullbacks an absolutely massive amount. It's not ideal that Robbo is out for the next round but he definitely looks like a rest won't do him any harm [even if it might do us some harm]. Similarly trent at his young age is being asked to do a huge amount, and we don't want him to burn out either - I want these two to fill out full back slots for the next 5-10 years.

What this means is we'll need decent options backing them up. Milner and Gomez are kind of decent enough options there, but given Joe does seem to suffer with injuries and Milner may well leave end of the year it's an area we can improve on. Moreno's not good enough, time will tell if any from the youth team are.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2851 on: March 14, 2019, 10:58:53 PM »
Our Full backs situation is probably the most concerning in our squad.

I wouldn't say concerning. I would say its the positions in our squad where we have NO depth in quality compared to other positions where we can atleast manage. I do believe they will be high priority positions for us to address in the summer for depth. Our fullbacks have pretty much had to play every single minute when they are free with no rotation, especially Robbo, and the demands from their position in our setup is immense. They need to get some rest every now and again, if only to recharge. The weird thing is, our fullbacks even at 50% are still incredibly good because they always put in a shift and always have something mad in their locker to pull out, so I am okay with the situation at the minute. Gomez's return should add atleast some help in this department as well.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2852 on: March 15, 2019, 12:10:56 AM »
Unpopular opinion but Robbo's felt a bit burned out since the turn of the year. He's not nearly at his best and some of that just has to be the number of games he's played. His work rate is still top notch but his actual output hasn't quite hit the mark for a while. I wish we'd had the luxury to give him a breather once in a while and even though the Champions League QF is probably an awful time for that, it might just be helpful for the lad.
Or he adjusting on sleep to the demands of having a newborn around the house now, along with how much he playing

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2853 on: March 15, 2019, 12:44:30 AM »
Could be he is overworked. Could be the baby or Could be both. Robbo is having a small dip in form and unfortunately we only have Moreno to back him up.

Trent has been brilliant going forward, but hasn't been solid defensively. With Gomez preferred as a CB we may really need to go out and get some quality back ups for the full backs (assuming Moreno will leave end of season).

Also I seriously hope Milner stays with us next season. He has been solid wherever he has played. Carried us at the start of the season and can fit in any position seamlessly. Hope we extend his stay.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2854 on: March 15, 2019, 07:56:15 AM »
Could be he is overworked. Could be the baby or Could be both. Robbo is having a small dip in form and unfortunately we only have Moreno to back him up.

Trent has been brilliant going forward, but hasn't been solid defensively. With Gomez preferred as a CB we may really need to go out and get some quality back ups for the full backs (assuming Moreno will leave end of season).

Also I seriously hope Milner stays with us next season. He has been solid wherever he has played. Carried us at the start of the season and can fit in any position seamlessly. Hope we extend his stay.

His contract runs out after next season. 2020.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2855 on: March 15, 2019, 08:10:37 AM »
His contract runs out after next season. 2020.

So Soon?    :o
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2856 on: March 15, 2019, 09:12:19 AM »
So Soon?    :o

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2857 on: March 15, 2019, 10:49:51 AM »
His contract runs out after next season. 2020.
Oh! didn't know that. Thought Milner's contract expired 2019. but even so he might leave end of this season.

I will be surprised if Liverpool don't procure a midfielder (Fekir most likely, Klopp always sticks with his choices unless the whole injury thing was true). With so many personnel in the middle of the park, they may consider letting him go.

Makes more sense for him as well to negotiate a bigger contract now considering his stocks are high still being a key player this year than wait run the contract down to 2020, its risky what might happen between now and then. I have a strong feeling he will leave end of the season. I hope Klopp takes notice and extends his contract, he still has one good season in him for us.

(Will discuss Robbo here, might as well shift this to Milner thread)

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2858 on: March 15, 2019, 11:23:30 AM »
Missing Porto is not the end of the world without him!

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2859 on: March 15, 2019, 11:31:26 AM »
Missing Porto is not the end of the world without him!

Getting his suspension out of the way for the home tie vs Porto is Galactic Brain stuff.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2860 on: March 15, 2019, 12:12:35 PM »
Getting his suspension out of the way for the home tie vs Porto is Galactic Brain stuff.

Andy Robbo >>> Sergio Ramos.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2861 on: March 15, 2019, 12:18:49 PM »
Getting his suspension out of the way for the home tie vs Porto is Galactic Brain stuff.

Andy Robbo >>> Sergio Ramos.

Even if he was booked in the first leg against Porto he wouldn't have missed the 2nd leg because suspensions through bookings start over once you get to the quarters don't they?

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2862 on: March 15, 2019, 12:28:10 PM »
Porto home without Robbo is manageable. Milner would play LB. Phew.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2863 on: March 15, 2019, 01:28:09 PM »
His yellow card took the shine off Wednesday a little.

I'm suddenly a lot less concerned, even if Moreno is to play.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2864 on: March 15, 2019, 01:29:08 PM »
Porto home without Robbo is manageable. Milner would play LB. Phew.

Gomez back by then too all being well.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2865 on: March 15, 2019, 01:41:48 PM »
Gomez back by then too all being well.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2866 on: March 17, 2019, 10:33:22 PM »
He’s pulled out of the Scotland squad - needs an operation for a dental abscess. So no trip to Kazakhstan for him, although may join them for their second match against San Marino.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2867 on: March 17, 2019, 10:35:29 PM »
He’s pulled out of the Scotland squad - needs an operation for a dental abscess. So no trip to Kazakhstan for him, although may join them for their second match against San Marino.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2868 on: March 17, 2019, 10:36:32 PM »
He’s pulled out of the Scotland squad - needs an operation for a dental abscess. So no trip to Kazakhstan for him, although may join them for their second match against San Marino.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2869 on: March 18, 2019, 01:01:15 PM »
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2870 on: March 18, 2019, 01:30:45 PM »
He’s pulled out of the Scotland squad - needs an operation for a dental abscess. So no trip to Kazakhstan for him, although may join them for their second match against San Marino.
We should brace ourselves for the worst.  We don't want someone else filling in at left back for any longer than needed.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2871 on: March 18, 2019, 06:07:29 PM »
We should brace ourselves for the worst.  We don't want someone else filling in at left back for any longer than needed.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2872 on: March 18, 2019, 06:37:51 PM »
Secretly hoping he misses both games. Tierney is a good left back, and they don't really need their best against either Kazakhstan or San Marino. Essentially meaningless games as they will likely win both comfortably.

He looks a little jaded with his play. Some errors and sloppiness creeping in, even though the desire and determination are there in spades. A decent break, and some time to work on cutting down errors will see him return with good sharpness.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2873 on: March 18, 2019, 10:09:37 PM »
Needs an “operation on his tooth” and will only be elegible to play against San Marino.

No stitch up here at all.  Move along, this is all above board. Honest.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2874 on: March 18, 2019, 10:16:16 PM »
Needs an “operation on his tooth” and will only be elegible to play against San Marino.

No stitch up here at all.  Move along, this is all above board. Honest.

Apparently he's been playing with a mouth abscess.Painful.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2875 on: March 19, 2019, 11:08:28 AM »
So it sounds like he's desperately trying to make the squad for the first match.  What are you doing, Andy?  Stay home FFS.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2876 on: March 19, 2019, 12:01:57 PM »
So it sounds like he's desperately trying to make the squad for the first match.  What are you doing, Andy?  Stay home FFS.

And they have a decent substitute for him...not a massive drop off. But I guess being the captain he feels duty bound.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2877 on: March 19, 2019, 01:51:58 PM »
According to the Scotland NT twitter feed, he's officially out of the match, but back for San Marino.

https://twitter.com/ScotlandNT/status/1108001468643196928

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2878 on: March 19, 2019, 04:06:17 PM »
Apparently he's been playing with a mouth abscess.Painful.
Would explain his mercurial form

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #2879 on: March 20, 2019, 10:50:16 AM »
We should brace ourselves for the worst.  We don't want someone else filling in at left back for any longer than needed.

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