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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3080 on: May 29, 2019, 06:04:02 PM »
He is a Belter!
I am he
as you are he
as you are me
and we are all
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3081 on: May 29, 2019, 06:53:00 PM »
Sorry, my post was not clear, it was his year at Dundee Utd I was talking about. My son and I sat on the half-way line that season watching Andy bomb down the wing for 45 mins.

Me too. :)

(And I had him as MOTM in the Saints final.)

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« Reply #3082 on: May 29, 2019, 10:26:14 PM »
That is SOME write-up. Wow!

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« Reply #3083 on: May 29, 2019, 10:44:00 PM »
Blimey.. bit of dust in my eye....
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« Reply #3085 on: May 29, 2019, 11:32:34 PM »
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« Reply #3086 on: May 30, 2019, 12:14:45 AM »
What a great article. What a great guy.

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« Reply #3088 on: May 30, 2019, 01:22:31 AM »
Liverpool's Andy Robertson: The people & places behind Scotland defender's rise.

By Martin Greig
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The sun beats down on a small patch of grass. Its rays turn the windows of the surrounding high-rise flats into sheets of gold. The midday heat shimmers. Nothing moves.

This is Maryhill, a working-class district in the north of Glasgow. Fifty years ago, this housing estate was known as 'The Barracks'. It is a place rich in Scottish football history.

Charlie Nicholas, one of the best Scottish footballers of his generation, who played with distinction for Celtic and won the 1987 League Cup with Arsenal, grew up here. Next door lived Jim Duffy, an elegant defender who impressed at Greenock Morton, Dundee and Partick Thistle.

As kids in the 1960s and 70s, Duffy and Nicholas dominated football matches in The Barracks. But there was another conspicuous youngster on the scene. Andy Robertson's father Brian, or 'Pop', lived a corner-kick away in a third-floor flat overlooking their makeshift pitch.

'Pop' was a goal poacher with a tenacious streak the size of Hampden Park. He never missed a game, and never shirked a tackle, despite his huge physical disadvantage.

After sustaining a spinal injury at a young age, he was forced to wear a metal brace stretching from his waist to his neck whenever he kicked a ball around with his childhood friends.

Duffy recalls: "Andy has got his determination, that never-give-up attitude, from his dad. That working-class attitude of rolling your sleeves up, making the most of things and seeing where it takes you.

"There's something in his DNA which has pushed him to his limits."


Andy Robertson is an affable guy. Ask anyone. The Liverpool fans who stop him for selfies in the street. The media department at Liverpool FC who find him to be the most obliging of footballers. The former team-mates and coaches who he works hard to remain in touch with. Look closer, though, and there is a cold-blooded glint in those brown eyes. It hints at an awesome toughness.

John Gallagher coached Robertson at under-14 and under-15 level for Celtic. "As a kid, if someone went over the top on Andy, he would chase them down," he says. "He will not shy away from confrontation. He can do the public face, he always speaks very well. But he is a beast on the pitch."

"Wise, and streetwise," is how former Dundee United team-mate John Rankin puts it.



This is, after all, a 25-year-old who had the temerity to clip Lionel Messi around the back of the head on a night when Liverpool pulled off one of the most dramatic comebacks in Champions League history, in their semi-final second leg against Barcelona.

The gesture may not have intimidated the greatest player in the world, but it did perhaps help set the tone for what was to come. It certainly spoke to a strong sense of self that stretches all the way back to Robertson's Maryhill roots.

This Saturday, 'Pop' Robertson will settle into his seat at Atletico Madrid's Wanda Metropolitano to watch his son play for Liverpool in his second successive Champions League final. Robertson's grandparents, meanwhile, will watch the final on television in their flat overlooking that patch of grass in The Barracks.


Rugby Park, Kilmarnock, December 2013. Stan Ternent, Hull City's head of recruitment, has travelled north to take a closer look at Dundee United's stellar cast of young players, including Ryan Gauld, Gary Mackay-Steven and Stuart Armstrong.

Ternent and Hull boss Steve Bruce are piecing together a team capable of holding their own in the Premier League. Harry Maguire, scouted from Sheffield United, will arrive in summer 2014. Tom Huddlestone and Jake Livermore have already checked in from Spurs.

Kilmarnock play on a synthetic pitch. It is an unforgiving surface that demands players be able to pass and control the ball efficiently. Ternent's eye drifts to the sylph-like youngster leaving scorch marks up and down United's left. He feels his heart beat faster. He has just set eyes on Andy Robertson for the first time.



Ternent drives home immediately after the match and speaks to Bruce the next day. He explains that he has seen a player he likes very much but the game was on a synthetic surface and he wants to watch him on grass. On his next trip north, Ternent takes in Hibernian v Dundee United. After 20 minutes, he shuts his notebook. At half-time, he leaves Easter Road. As he heads for the car, he phones Bruce.

"We have to sign this kid."

"Are you sure?"

"100%."

If you were to do a pencil drawing of an old-fashioned football scout, it might resemble Ternent. A man who has spent a lifetime driving up and down British motorways chasing those precious moments when his back suddenly straightens, his blood pressure rises and he knows in his bones that he has just spotted a footballer.

"I wouldn't watch players that many times. I would know inside, fairly quickly," he says.

Ternent speaks of Robertson with an almost paternal pride. He accepts no credit for discovering him - "Nowt to do with me. I was lucky. I fell on him. Great family, great agent. Knows where he comes from. It's all down to Robbo" - and instead emphasises the role played by Bruce and his coaching team of Steve Clemence, Steve Agnew, Keith Bertschin and Gary Walsh in developing him into a top-class player.




Hull was an important staging post in Robertson's career. After joining for £2.85m in July 2014, he made 115 appearances over three seasons. In that time the side club relegated from the Premier League, promoted straight back up from the Championship via the play-offs and then relegated again.

Ternent used to drop in on training to watch Robertson's progress.

"He did his own runs at the end. He would set off at the near post, building up as he crossed the 18-yard line; at the halfway line he'd still be gathering speed and by the time he got to the other end of the pitch he'd be flying - 100-metre runs. And he would do six or eight of them. He just built up and built up until he reached the levels you see now."


Much has changed at Liverpool in the past 12 months. The fall guy of 2018's Champions League final defeat by Real Madrid, Loris Karius, has been replaced by Alisson, the Brazilian who arrived for £66.8m, then a world-record fee for a goalkeeper. Central defender Virgil Van Dijk also joined for a world-record fee in his position - £75m.

The financial might of Liverpool, and the Premier League clubs, is now undeniable, but it does not tell the whole story of the club's recruitment. Robertson's move from Hull City was different.

The Scot was signed in the summer of 2017 for £8m. The sort of money you suspect Premier League clubs might find down the back of a sofa in the players' lounge, but Liverpool are open-minded on fees, large or small. Robertson's arrival was the product of an enlightened scouting department which has been pivotal to the success of the Jurgen Klopp era.

Liverpool's owners, Fenway Sports Group, have introduced an analytics-based approach into all decisions ranging from tactics to recruitment. The system has been refined greatly under Ian Graham, Liverpool's director of research, who has a doctorate in theoretical physics from the University of Cambridge.

He has built a database that tracks 10,000 players around the world. His data analysis heavily influenced the appointment of Klopp in 2015, as well as key signings such as Mohamed Salah and Naby Keita.

Yet, while the Liverpool scouting department have comprehensive data sets on all their signings, human judgement is firmly at the core of their operation, led by sporting director Michael Edwards.

Liverpool scouts watch potential signings in 15- to 20-game blocks. In doing so, they aim to achieve a more comprehensive picture of a player's character and how they cope with a variety of situations over a longer period of time.

Liverpool, including their head scout Barry Hunter, had compiled a season's worth of scouting reports on Robertson before making their move.

Ternent took a game and a half. Liverpool spent 10 months. Two contrasting approaches. Both successful.




Robertson grew up as a Celtic fan and played in the club's youth system until the age of 15. In hindsight, his release at that age was a mistake, but youth football is the most inexact of sciences.

The then Celtic youth coach John Gallagher used to cite the example of former Celtic captain Tom Boyd. Boyd experienced rejection as a youngster before becoming one of the first players to earn a professional contract - with Motherwell - through the government's Youth Training Scheme.

Boyd went on to enjoy a decorated career at Motherwell, Chelsea and Celtic. He also won 72 caps and represented Scotland at the World Cup in 1998.

"I always said to the boys: 'Where was Tom when he was 14 or 16?' My point was that careers don't follow linear routes," Gallagher says.

Robertson's certainly didn't. At the end of his under-15 season, Gallagher lobbied unsuccessfully for his retention. He then had to break the bad news to the player and his family.

He says: "I played at lower leagues in Scotland for 15 years and I came across all those guys whose upward trajectory stopped at 16. They might have played for Scotland Under-16s at the World Cup but they'd end up playing for Albion Rovers part-time and working as a security guard in a shopping centre.

"It can be very hard to handle. But Andy just got on with it. I felt he took it on the chin."

Gallagher recommended Robertson to Queen's Park, the famous Glasgow amateurs who back then, in 2010, played in the fourth tier of Scottish football. Geographically, it suited the family and would prove a crucial phase in his development.



In Queen's Park's youth set-up, he was nurtured by key figures such as head of youth David McCallum and technical director Andy McGlennan, who encouraged Robertson's switch to left-back from a more advanced position, in order to harness his defensive instincts, outstanding pace and exceptional crossing ability.

A full campaign in the first team during 2012-13 led to interest from Dundee United, whom he joined in the summer of 2013, aged 19.

According to Robertson, it was United midfielder John Rankin who won him a move to Hull City the year after. Rankin was an experienced midfielder for the Tannadice side when a "skinny schoolkid" appeared in the dressing room during 2013 pre-season.

Rankin had just had a cartilage operation and was on a watching brief only during the club's summer trip to Germany. In their first match, against Union Berlin, he noticed that United manager Jackie McNamara had started the 'schoolkid' at left-back.

Five minutes into the game, a winger tried to run Robertson, who outsprinted his opponent and expertly used his body to ease him off the ball. Then he did it again. And again.

Rankin says: "Near the end of the game Andy was still doing overlaps and I'm thinking: 'What the devil have we got here?'"

Robertson soon forced himself into the first team and ploughed incessantly down United's left-hand side. Whenever he disappeared into the opposition's half in a cloud of dust, Rankin used to conscientiously drift over to cover the spaces he left. On the pitch, he spoke to Robertson constantly. Tactical instructions, words of encouragement. Mostly, his young charge listened. Not always.

"I remember Motherwell away in December 2014," he says. "It's a difficult place to go to at the best of times. We won 4-0 that day, but I remember looking at the score and [at that point] it was 3-0.

"Andy used to always bomb forward and I'd cover for him. I turned to him and said, 'Don't go anywhere. There's only eight minutes to go, I want you to sit in'. I once played in a game where we were 6-2 up at Fir Park and it finished 6-6. Motherwell never know when they are beaten.

"Anything I told him to do, he usually did. But then Brian Graham robs the Motherwell left-back and cuts it back to me. Next thing I hear: 'YEEESS RANKS!' Without looking I've rolled the ball into Andy's path and he's rattled one into the top corner. The boys are all celebrating but I must have given him about five or six digs in the ribs:

-'What did I say to you?'

- 'But I scored, I scored.'

- 'And what would have happened if my pass hadn't been right and they'd scored at the other end?'

"He wants to go all the time and I think that's what helps him against pacy wingers because they don't want to track back with him. He's taken that confidence from League Two in Scotland to the Premiership in Scotland to the Championship in England and now into the Premier League and Champions League.

"That fearless streak is why he is where he is now."


Klopp has a mantra for his Liverpool players, particularly new recruits. 'Are you here for five months or five years?' It speaks to the physical demands and tactical acuity needed to play his brand of football. Players must learn and adapt constantly. It takes time and superhuman levels of commitment.

Robertson signed in the summer of 2017 and made his debut in a 1-0 win at Crystal Palace on 19 August. He won the man of the match award, but that doesn't tell the whole story.

After that game, Robertson featured only twice more before early December. He had been used to a man-marking system at Hull. He had to adapt to Klopp's zonal-based system and co-ordinated pressing style.

In the intervening months, he watched and learned. When he got a run in the team, starting with a 5-1 away win at Brighton on 2 December, 2017, he exploded. He has been a permanent fixture ever since.



'OH ANDY, ANDY...'

The chorus fills the evening air at Anfield on 14 January, 2018. It starts in the Kop, and spreads quickly.

'...ANDY ANDY ANDY ANDY ROBERTSON.'

The home side are 4-1 up on league leaders Manchester City and Robertson has just arrived as a Liverpool player.

He has man-marked Raheem Sterling out of the game - the disconsolate winger has been substituted minutes before - and has just got his breath back from a lung-bursting 70-yard dash that saw him chase down four City defenders and their goalkeeper.

'The Run' would go viral on social media the next day. And Robertson now has his own song. The match ends 4-3 to the home side and immediately enters the pantheon of all-time great Premier League games.

"The chant started there," says Neil Atkinson, host of the Anfield Wrap podcast.

"It had been brewing across a couple of away games before that but the moment a chant goes 'home-game viral' is when it is massive. The Robertson chant is an absolute belter.

"There are lots of reasons why people have warmed to Andy: his ability first and foremost, but the fact that he's sound, the fact he's a Scot, these are cherries on top. Fans want to feel a kinship with players.

"When we sing Andy's name, it's almost as if we are singing Liverpool's name. It's like we are saying: 'You are the centre of all this.'

"You can only have so many super-humans like Virgil van Dijk. The Scottish fella that's stood beside him… you can at least kid yourself for one second that it could be you."






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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3089 on: May 30, 2019, 09:48:52 AM »
Me too. :)

(And I had him as MOTM in the Saints final.)

Should have guessed from your Hamish the goalie profile pic! I've never seen the lad give up at any level. There are no lost causes. The rest of that United team could learn a great deal from our Andy. Some terrific talent but not so much heart when things got tough. If we prevail on Saturday, and I expect us to, nothing will give me greater pleasure than to see Andy lift the Big Cup and enter the pantheon of Anfield legends.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3090 on: May 30, 2019, 09:50:48 AM »
Whatever happened to Ryan Gauld from that team who went to Sportig Lisbon?

Who else was in that crop of youngsters? Armstrong who’s now at Southampton? Mackay-Steven, anyone else?

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« Reply #3091 on: May 30, 2019, 10:50:10 AM »
He is a Belter!

To the song by fellow Glaswegian Gerry Cinnamon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwv8Rseg6Pk

He is a belter
Different from the rest
Rockets in his left boot
And his crosses are the best
he is a gangster
With a hundred mile stare
When he runs
His feet fly through the air
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« Reply #3092 on: May 30, 2019, 10:58:18 AM »
To the song by fellow Glaswegian Gerry Cinnamon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwv8Rseg6Pk

He is a belter
Different from the rest
Rockets in his left boot
And his crosses are the best
he is a gangster
With a hundred mile stare
When he runs
His feet fly through the air


Love it.

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« Reply #3093 on: May 30, 2019, 11:08:28 AM »
Whatever happened to Ryan Gauld from that team who went to Sportig Lisbon?

Was last on loan at Hibs. Injured his hamstring and hardly played. He's spent the past few years on loan at various Portuguese clubs

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« Reply #3094 on: May 30, 2019, 11:49:31 AM »
Whatever happened to Ryan Gauld from that team who went to Sportig Lisbon?

Who else was in that crop of youngsters? Armstrong who’s now at Southampton? Mackay-Steven, anyone else?

I think John Souttar was a part of that team. Oh and Johnny Russell.

I used to watch the Scottish league back then. Dundee United were very exciting back then. I always thought Gauld was the most promising of them all. Glad to be wrong and have the player who proved me wrong playing for us.

Being born in Scotland, I like to see good Scottish talent (as limited as it is). For this reason and his attitude, Robbo is my favourite player.

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« Reply #3095 on: May 30, 2019, 01:09:51 PM »
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/andy-robertson-liverpool-champions-league

Wonderful article penned by the man himself, really illustrates where the fire in his belly comes from.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3096 on: May 30, 2019, 01:17:08 PM »
Whatever happened to Ryan Gauld from that team who went to Sportig Lisbon?

Who else was in that crop of youngsters? Armstrong who’s now at Southampton? Mackay-Steven, anyone else?

Gauld's move to Sporting has kind of torpedoed him, it's a shame. Bit like Woodburn I guess.

Armstrong's done well - he was brilliant at Selleck and looks to be progressing further at Southampton. GMS has stayed a reasonably big and effective fish in the Scottish pond... beyond that John Souttar has squandered his potential for me and is at Hearts, but he could have done much, much more.
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« Reply #3097 on: May 30, 2019, 01:25:38 PM »
I have a weird feeling that Robbo will score for the Reds on Saturday. He has such a brilliant scriptwriter that it's almost bound to happen.
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« Reply #3098 on: May 30, 2019, 01:50:07 PM »
I have a weird feeling that Robbo will score for the Reds on Saturday. He has such a brilliant scriptwriter that it's almost bound to happen.

Shurrup! You speak of "The Goal That Dare Not Speak It's Name". It's my dream; I may just sublimate to a higher plane if that happens. :wave

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« Reply #3099 on: May 30, 2019, 02:23:44 PM »
"If I was a sympathetic type, I’d probably feel sorry for opposition players coming to Anfield on European nights."

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/andy-robertson-liverpool-champions-league?fbclid=IwAR1LZaSF2jFXbUip7T1g28KwprNMQN1VyBBYEr3WaPaF0iW-C2GVkjH2E_E

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« Reply #3100 on: May 30, 2019, 04:28:56 PM »
I have a weird feeling that Robbo will score for the Reds on Saturday. He has such a brilliant scriptwriter that it's almost bound to happen.

Shurrup! You speak of "The Goal That Dare Not Speak It's Name". It's my dream; I may just sublimate to a higher plane if that happens. :wave

I'll literally burst myself if that happens.
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« Reply #3102 on: May 31, 2019, 02:40:50 PM »
Our fullbacks are incredible - read the Trent interview on his thread and the Robertson one he penned himself and it’s nicely surprising hearing of their attitude.

They’re both appreciative about their position, and they’re clearly grounded - that’s important because it shows they respect the people who come in to watch them weekly, travelling the world, paying that cash. They work hard - they both seem to have that steely determination and they’re talking about running up and down the wings and how it’s non negotiable they get back when they attack. They’re incredibly talented and are confident with their ability. They’re humble enough to know they need to improve, constantly - they clearly have that drive to go and make the most of their talents.

Would love it if they were the 2 stars of the show on Saturday - they’ve been on numerous occasions this season, and after what they did this season, it would be fitting to see it celebrated on the biggest stage of all. A couple of assists/goals each would be fantastic tomorrow then please chaps!
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« Reply #3103 on: May 31, 2019, 05:19:00 PM »
An assist from TAA to Robbo for the winner in injury time would be the stuff of legend!!!

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« Reply #3104 on: May 31, 2019, 05:22:43 PM »
More likely to be Robertson assisting TAA. I am happy either way.

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« Reply #3105 on: May 31, 2019, 05:30:31 PM »
I'll literally burst myself if that happens.

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« Reply #3106 on: May 31, 2019, 06:56:28 PM »
BBC Reporting Scotland just had a report on his rise to prominence. It was crap, but still, nice to see.
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« Reply #3107 on: May 31, 2019, 10:41:31 PM »
Barney Rubble moment tomorrow night, mark my words.

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« Reply #3108 on: June 1, 2019, 02:15:39 AM »
Anyone else hear that s.a.f is going cause he loves our Andy and wants to cheer him on.     !


Reward offered for any pics with him wearing an LFC scarf.  ;D ;D

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« Reply #3109 on: June 1, 2019, 02:27:35 AM »
Anyone else hear that s.a.f is going cause he loves our Andy and wants to cheer him on.     !


Reward offered for any pics with him wearing an LFC scarf while lying at the botton of the stairs you've kicked him down ;D ;D

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« Reply #3111 on: June 1, 2019, 02:37:53 AM »
Sky will pay "Big Money" if an LFC scarf is visible before the paramedics pinch it.  :D

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3112 on: June 1, 2019, 03:43:23 AM »
"If I was a sympathetic type, I’d probably feel sorry for opposition players coming to Anfield on European nights."

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/andy-robertson-liverpool-champions-league?fbclid=IwAR1LZaSF2jFXbUip7T1g28KwprNMQN1VyBBYEr3WaPaF0iW-C2GVkjH2E_E

great reading, that. Loved it.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3113 on: June 1, 2019, 04:52:42 AM »
Mind keeps going back to his mad hound press against City...imagine if he did something similar and we score from the turnover.
Never mind scoring, what an energy lift that would be for everyone if it happens

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3114 on: June 1, 2019, 01:01:08 PM »
Gone from playing amateur football and possibly giving up on the game to playing in a second successive Champions league final. He's worked so hard to be in Madrid tonight and nobody deserves it more than him to lift that big eared cup at the end of the night.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3115 on: June 1, 2019, 09:52:35 PM »
Robbo was unlucky with that shot!

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3116 on: June 1, 2019, 11:12:00 PM »
Andy Robbo is a European Champion and the best left back in Europe.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3117 on: June 1, 2019, 11:14:52 PM »
Scotland loves ya Andy ya fuckin dancer!
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3118 on: June 2, 2019, 01:38:01 AM »
Aye. Robbo, The Black Bear on the pipes. Leading us to glory.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3119 on: June 3, 2019, 12:25:37 AM »
Has Robbo stopped running yet?
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