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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ole from Molde!" featuring Mt. Rushmore Head and dabs.
« Reply #32480 on: August 14, 2019, 10:07:31 AM »
Rumour is that Pogba is off to Juve as Fernandes is guaranteed to them in January by his agent...

All seems very disorganised if true
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« Reply #32481 on: August 14, 2019, 10:15:33 AM »
That is a very strangely written match report. Was it written by Giggseh?

Salford got a lot of corners didn't they?  Plucky minnows against the might of footballing giants Leeds.

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« Reply #32482 on: August 14, 2019, 10:19:34 AM »
Rumour is that Pogba is off to Juve as Fernandes is guaranteed to them in January by his agent...

All seems very disorganised if true



Wouldn't expect any less.

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« Reply #32483 on: August 14, 2019, 10:19:55 AM »
De....bate?

It still counts as a debate even if it's a bunch of morons doing the debating right?

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« Reply #32484 on: August 14, 2019, 01:48:09 PM »
Ratface has gone full Everton

“What I’m saying is, Liverpool, City, Tottenham, all these clubs have had poor recruitment policies over the last 25 or 30 years at times,” Neville told Sky Bet’s The Big Debate.

“So United are going through one at the moment.

“Eventually they will stumble upon the right recruitment system, the right recruitment people, they’ll get a great manager – hopefully that’s Ole – and they’ll start to win again. That’s going to happen.

“I can guarantee you as clear as day, Manchester United will win again. They’ll probably win the league before Liverpool, in my opinion. And that’s not being disrespectful, they’ll probably win the league before Liverpool.”

But Neville continued: “Maybe not, but I think they’ll win a league before Liverpool.

“They’re more ripe, they’re closer than you think and it’s not as bad as you think. That’s always the way it is.

“And Liverpool, Salah’s going to leave in the next 12 months, I can see it already.

“He [Carragher] knows, he won’t say it. I can see it, you can feel it, you can smell it, you know when a player’s like…”

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« Reply #32485 on: August 14, 2019, 01:58:21 PM »


For some reason I had this going through my head reading that.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ole from Molde!" featuring Mt. Rushmore Head and dabs.
« Reply #32486 on: August 14, 2019, 02:05:59 PM »
Neville going full Neville, never mind Everton.

Proper weird comments those.

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« Reply #32487 on: August 14, 2019, 02:13:18 PM »
For some reason I had this going through my head reading that.

Very apt

I guess ripening is the new corner turning.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ole from Molde!" featuring Mt. Rushmore Head and dabs.
« Reply #32488 on: August 14, 2019, 02:15:51 PM »
Neville is like trump, playing to his base.


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« Reply #32489 on: August 14, 2019, 02:17:57 PM »
He’s paid millions to make idiotic comments.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ole from Molde!" featuring Mt. Rushmore Head and dabs.
« Reply #32490 on: August 14, 2019, 02:49:22 PM »
He could at least try to hide his bias.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ole from Molde!" featuring Mt. Rushmore Head and dabs.
« Reply #32492 on: August 14, 2019, 03:08:37 PM »
Neville can see Salah leaving next summer, much in the same way he could see us losing to Bayern on purpose to focus on the Prem.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ole from Molde!" featuring Mt. Rushmore Head and dabs.
« Reply #32493 on: August 14, 2019, 03:11:30 PM »
Neville can see Salah leaving next summer, much in the same way he could see us losing to Bayern on purpose to focus on the Prem.

The same way he saw Valencia winning every game under him as manager.

What a joke he is.

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« Reply #32494 on: August 14, 2019, 03:18:52 PM »
Ratface has gone full Everton

“What I’m saying is, Liverpool, City, Tottenham, all these clubs have had poor recruitment policies over the last 25 or 30 years at times,” Neville told Sky Bet’s The Big Debate.

“So United are going through one at the moment.

“Eventually they will stumble upon the right recruitment system, the right recruitment people, they’ll get a great manager – hopefully that’s Ole – and they’ll start to win again. That’s going to happen.

“I can guarantee you as clear as day, Manchester United will win again. They’ll probably win the league before Liverpool, in my opinion. And that’s not being disrespectful, they’ll probably win the league before Liverpool.”

But Neville continued: “Maybe not, but I think they’ll win a league before Liverpool.

“They’re more ripe, they’re closer than you think and it’s not as bad as you think. That’s always the way it is.

“And Liverpool, Salah’s going to leave in the next 12 months, I can see it already.

“He [Carragher] knows, he won’t say it. I can see it, you can feel it, you can smell it, you know when a player’s like…”

The rabid bitterness  :lmao Glaringly obvious our 6th Champions league title and being European champions is a punch to his gut every day.  ;D Poor fella

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ole from Molde!" featuring Mt. Rushmore Head and dabs.
« Reply #32495 on: August 14, 2019, 03:37:42 PM »
The rabid bitterness  :lmao Glaringly obvious our 6th Champions league title and being European champions is a punch to his gut every day.  ;D Poor fella

He's punch drunk after last season. It's really, really got to him.  :lmao

He's admitting there that they have the wrong recruitment system, the wrong recruitment people and an average manager and pinning his hopes upon them eventually ''stumbling'' across the right recruitment system, people and also a great manager. They got very lucky once when they became Ferguson FC, but they are back to just being Man United now.  :wave
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« Reply #32496 on: August 14, 2019, 04:28:46 PM »
He's punch drunk after last season. It's really, really got to him.  :lmao

He's admitting there that they have the wrong recruitment system, the wrong recruitment people and an average manager and pinning his hopes upon them eventually ''stumbling'' across the right recruitment system, people and also a great manager. They got very lucky once when they became Ferguson FC, but they are back to just being Man United now.  :wave

When you discount all those things, you realise he's essentially saying they only have hopes of becoming any good because they are easily one of the richest clubs in Europe. At least it's coming to terms with how their legacy was built from the early 90s

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ole from Molde!" featuring Mt. Rushmore Head and dabs.
« Reply #32497 on: August 14, 2019, 04:32:16 PM »
I love the way he says United will "stumble upon the right recruitment policy, as if no planning and forethought goes into it. Once they have exhausted every other way of doing it badly, it fill all fall into place as if by magic. Dream on Neville you dumbass.
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« Reply #32498 on: August 14, 2019, 04:46:55 PM »
I love the way he says United will "stumble upon the right recruitment policy, as if no planning and forethought goes into it. Once they have exhausted every other way of doing it badly, it fill all fall into place as if by magic. Dream on Neville you dumbass.
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« Reply #32499 on: August 14, 2019, 04:50:58 PM »
The rabid bitterness  :lmao Glaringly obvious our 6th Champions league title and being European champions is a punch to his gut every day.  ;D Poor fella

He’s babbling nonsense trying to convince himself. Man Utd will get back to winning ways eventually, but it won’t happen any time soon because they have a shite manager, a mediocre squad, and a negative cloud over the club. As for the Salah stuff, I don’t know what his agenda is there but he clearly has one.
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« Reply #32500 on: August 14, 2019, 04:53:37 PM »
He’s babbling nonsense trying to convince himself. Man Utd will get back to winning ways eventually, but it won’t happen any time soon because they have a shite manager, a mediocre squad, and a negative cloud over the club. As for the Salah stuff, I don’t know what his agenda is there but he clearly has one.

Please please please let their world class players leave.

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« Reply #32501 on: August 14, 2019, 04:54:42 PM »
He’s babbling nonsense trying to convince himself. Man Utd will get back to winning ways eventually, but it won’t happen any time soon because they have a shite manager, a mediocre squad, and a negative cloud over the club. As for the Salah stuff, I don’t know what his agenda is there but he clearly has one.

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« Reply #32502 on: August 14, 2019, 04:56:53 PM »
You can see what Neville is saying to be honest. Our recruitment policy has been bang on the money for 3/4 years and we haven’t won it. And we probably won’t while Pep is here - not our fault it’s just the restrictions of our wallet compared to theirs.

United on the other hand, have comparable funds to City - it’s just they’ve spent it really badly. And they probably will correct it. Sometime. And probably before we win a league title.

As for Salah, I don’t expect anything different from him than I did from Torres, Alonso, Suarez, etc, etc. So again I don’t think what Neville is saying is that OTT.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ole from Molde!" featuring Mt. Rushmore Head and dabs.
« Reply #32503 on: August 14, 2019, 05:13:00 PM »
Yeah I imagine plenty of our older fans also thought that we would just 'correct it' after 6 years without a league title in 1996. Doesn't mean it's going to happen. I also think the league is more competitive now than it was.
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« Reply #32504 on: August 14, 2019, 05:20:10 PM »
You can see what Neville is saying to be honest. Our recruitment policy has been bang on the money for 3/4 years and we haven’t won it. And we probably won’t while Pep is here - not our fault it’s just the restrictions of our wallet compared to theirs.

United on the other hand, have comparable funds to City - it’s just they’ve spent it really badly. And they probably will correct it. Sometime. And probably before we win a league title.

As for Salah, I don’t expect anything different from him than I did from Torres, Alonso, Suarez, etc, etc. So again I don’t think what Neville is saying is that OTT.

I don’t know this seems overly negative, almost like you’re playing devil’s advocate. You do realise we are quite a big club and won a title or two during our history
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« Reply #32505 on: August 14, 2019, 05:29:56 PM »
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You can see what Neville is saying to be honest. Our recruitment policy has been bang on the money for 3/4 years and we haven’t won it. And we probably won’t while Pep is here - not our fault it’s just the restrictions of our wallet compared to theirs.

So what on earth does make you and Neville think that the red Mancs will win the title ahead of City? Given that they have more resources than them, and given that they're miles a better side, even if we go with your and Neville's logic, City are already in the ascendancy. Silva is the only one retiring at the end of the season, and even Aguero has still several years left in him while they have Jesus in their ranks and can more than likely sign any top class centerforward later on. The rest of their side has at least 5-6 years at the highest level left in them [Ederson,Bernando Silva,Sterling,De Bruyne,Rodri,Sane,Stones,Laporte], that's the core of their group, in fact all of it. The players who are there are miles better than the the Red Mancs and will be regardless of who they sign in the foreseeable future [in the next couple of years]

They would have to have a dramatic decline from top to bottom, to be surpassed by the Mancs.

The likelihood of that happening the nearer feature is bleak, that's another 4,5 years and it's been 7 years since they won the last league title already.

So I am not even talking about winning it before us, it's more to do with them winning it ahead of City.

Wishful thinking by his part and I am not sure what exactly you're thinking falling for that same type of logic.


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As for Salah, I don’t expect anything different from him than I did from Torres, Alonso, Suarez, etc, etc.

So what happens when Pogba leaves the Mancs? All of the world class players are just lining up to join them? Alonso left after a clear disagreement with Benitez who tried to sell him the season prior his departure. Torres left us while we were fighting in mid table mediocrity without having won a single trophy during his time here and Suarez did as well, having seen us just challenge once while he was at the club and not winning anything worthy .

None of that can be applied to Salah, of course the are no guarantees that he stays, but we also aren't a one man team, we have several world class players in our side which we didn't have ini any of those scenarios

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« Reply #32506 on: August 14, 2019, 06:03:30 PM »
Because football is about money money and more money. And spending it well. The logic is really simple. They have resources to compete with City, we don’t. They haven’t used theirs well.  We squeezed every ounce out of the squad to get 97 points. City probably could squeeze another 5-7 points out of theirs.

Re Salah, Pogba leaving United has nothing to do him at all. That was a pure straw man on your part.

Edit: also re Salah. Players come, players go. I really don’t care about the individuals anymore. They are not fans like me and you and everyone else on here. They are all mercenaries that do and say the right things until the decide the want more money/win things/new challenge/better weather. Salah seems like a genuinely nice and humble guy. But he didn’t travel 8 hours to training every day as a kid to win 1 trophy.
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« Reply #32507 on: August 14, 2019, 06:30:48 PM »
Realistically speaking, right now the only place that Salah would go that are arguably a step up on us would be City and we'd never sell to them.
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« Reply #32508 on: August 14, 2019, 06:43:15 PM »
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Because football is about money money and more money. And spending it well. The logic is really simple. They have resources to compete with City, we don’t. They haven’t used theirs well.  We squeezed every ounce out of the squad to get 97 points. City probably could squeeze another 5-7 points out of theirs.

And City have more money than the Mancs ergo my point. I never mentioned us winning it ahead of them [Mancs] I was talking about the Mancs winning it ahead of City. Which was the entirety of my post.

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Re Salah, Pogba leaving United has nothing to do him at all. That was a pure straw man on your part.

Nothing to do with what?

Again City have more unlimited finances and quality than the Mancs,the likelyhood of them winning it ahead of City is bleak for all the reasons I mentioned, Neville is talking out of his arse as per usual and you are missing the point entirely

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« Reply #32509 on: August 14, 2019, 06:44:43 PM »
Took them one game to return to full delusion

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Ratface has gone full Everton

“What I’m saying is, Liverpool, City, Tottenham, all these clubs have had poor recruitment policies over the last 25 or 30 years at times,” Neville told Sky Bet’s The Big Debate.

“So United are going through one at the moment.

“Eventually they will stumble upon the right recruitment system, the right recruitment people, they’ll get a great manager – hopefully that’s Ole – and they’ll start to win again. That’s going to happen.

“I can guarantee you as clear as day, Manchester United will win again. They’ll probably win the league before Liverpool, in my opinion. And that’s not being disrespectful, they’ll probably win the league before Liverpool.”

But Neville continued: “Maybe not, but I think they’ll win a league before Liverpool.

“They’re more ripe, they’re closer than you think and it’s not as bad as you think. That’s always the way it is.

“And Liverpool, Salah’s going to leave in the next 12 months, I can see it already.

“He [Carragher] knows, he won’t say it. I can see it, you can feel it, you can smell it, you know when a player’s like…”


Still only one game gone and it really has set in hasn't it

The funniest thing for me is the change in tune from last seasons rambling and sitting looking like a toddler that was just told he cant have skittles. Ladies and Gentleman its taken ONE GAME for him to turn a corner :lmao

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« Reply #32510 on: August 14, 2019, 07:05:01 PM »
They’re the richest club in the world. Eventually they will get a manager who know what he is doing, and they will be back on their perch. They won’t be a shambles forever I’m afraid. So in that respect Neville is right, but it doesn’t stop him sounding like you’re average bitter Manc you find in any pub on a Friday night and not a highly paid ‘expert’ paid to give a considered view.

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« Reply #32511 on: August 14, 2019, 07:09:11 PM »
And City have more money than the Mancs ergo my point. I never mentioned us winning it ahead of them [Mancs] I was talking about the Mancs winning it ahead of City. Which was the entirety of my post.

Nothing to do with what?

Again City have more unlimited finances and quality than the Mancs,the likelyhood of them winning it ahead of City is bleak for all the reasons I mentioned, Neville is talking out of his arse as per usual and you are missing the point entirely
And City have more money than the Mancs ergo my point. I never mentioned us winning it ahead of them [Mancs] I was talking about the Mancs winning it ahead of City. Which was the entirety of my post.

Nothing to do with what?

Again City have more unlimited finances and quality than the Mancs,the likelyhood of them winning it ahead of City is bleak for all the reasons I mentioned, Neville is talking out of his arse as per usual and you are missing the point entirely

Mate, no harm to you but you are missing the 2 separate points that Neville was making.

Point 1 : United are more likely to win the league before Liverpool - true because  the main factor behind winning is money and they have more than us (and city for that matter). They spend it badly and their owners have taken 1 billion from them ( that would destroy every other club in world football). That wont last forever though. And we’ll likely never match their resources, even if FFP ever gains teeth.

Point 2: Salah will leave Liverpool. I fully expect this to be the last season we have this front 3. Past history backs this up. They always leave. And people say the exact same things before they do (he isn’t like that, why would he leave there’s no bigger club than LFC, he said he loves it here, etc).

 Your Pogba point was not relevant to Salah leaving Liverpool. Is it relevant to United not winning the league soon? Yeah sure, maybe.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's Ole from Molde!" featuring Mt. Rushmore Head and dabs.
« Reply #32512 on: August 14, 2019, 07:25:33 PM »
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Point 1 : United are more likely to win the league before Liverpool - true because  the main factor behind winning is money and they have more than us (and city for that matter). They spend it badly and their owners have taken 1 billion from them ( that would destroy every other club in world football). That wont last forever though. And we’ll likely never match their resources, even if FFP ever gains teeth.

I don't see the Mancs outspending City, that was my point, their resources are far unlimited . I am personally not arsed what Forbe's list shows and other sources of the same nature. The oil wealth that City have surpasses what the Mancs have, there is no doubt in my mind that their Sheikhs  are wealthier than the Glazers and will continue to pump cash at the same rate they have, particularly once Guardiola leaves as every maanger that goes there spends an obscene amount of money.

Given that they already have a side that is much better than the Mancs, even matching their spending imo, will not give them the title before City. They have their core group at the right football age and are set easily for the next 4,5 seasons even if they don't spend anything [which is unlikely given their history]

So in no way shape or form do I see the Mancs winning the league title ahead of City. They've [Mancs] have outspent us and we're still a better side by country miles, let alone City who are better in both fronts. They're years ahead of them in every aspect. And they will be for the foreseeable future.


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Point 2: Salah will leave Liverpool. I fully expect this to be the last season we have this front 3. Past history backs this up. They always leave. And people say the exact same things before they do (he isn’t like that, why would he leave there’s no bigger club than LFC, he said he loves it here, etc).

I didn't say he would never leave, I was pointing out the different circumstances in the player departures that you listed. I am not naive to believe that any player here will be here forever. My main point in regards to this, losing Salah doesn't mean we aren't capable of being a successful side, ergo why I said we have multiple world class players.

The Mancs have spent a billion of pounds, and they have one [debatable] world class player/potential in their side after all of that.

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« Reply #32513 on: August 14, 2019, 07:37:58 PM »
Please please please let their world class players leave.

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« Reply #32514 on: August 14, 2019, 07:53:49 PM »
It took us 25 years to stumble on it...

They’re 6 years in...

It took them almost 70 years the first time to stumble on Busby and then after he retired it took another 27 years to bring in Fergie. Ratboy is a clutching at straws knobhead, that team is fucking shite and none of their players get in ours or Abu Dhabis first team

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It took us 25 years to stumble on it...

They’re 6 years in...
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Who are the 5th most successful club would be a good pub quiz question.

Most wouldn't say Villa I reckon.

Lots of charlies would probably say Man City or Spurs!
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We've won the European Super Cup more times than this lot have won the European Cup

Just saying like
Dalglish - Barnes - Beardsley - McManaman - Fowler - Owen - Gerrard - Torres - Suarez - Salah - Mane - Firmino

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« Reply #32519 on: August 14, 2019, 11:17:46 PM »


Seems a slightly iffy table, if the euro charity shield gets included in any total then so should the fifa world charity shield too.