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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1200 on: January 12, 2017, 06:30:27 AM »
We didn't do enough in the summer, it's as simple as that. Most of us thought the fact we didn't have any European football meant we could get away with having a smaller squad. But it seems it was poor judgement on everyone's part now. Klopp's style of play and the gruelling premier league fixture list shows we've needed much more strength in depth. Now we're in that tricky window were all the best players are reluctant to leave because they're still in European competition. Clubs are reluctant to sell because they need those players for the same reason. And we have owners who aren't willing break the bank in order to try and convince clubs to let those players go, so we can bring in the players we need now.

I really hope our inactivity in the summer doesn't come back to bite us on the arse.

I would have required 5 paragraphs and sub notes to have explained what you've just managed in one.
Great post that sums up our whole dilemma nicely wrapped in a bow tie.
I'm just concerned because we could have used the exact same post at the exact same moment (mid season) during each of the last 3 seasons.
It has the whiff of a transfer strategy rather than a solitary transfer window where we underestimated our depth.
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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1201 on: January 12, 2017, 07:06:59 AM »
The mistake we did in 2014 Jan was to not bring in an attacker, and that proved costly when we needed a quality option among subs (we had Aspas and Moses only), and we lost the title.
This season, reinforcements in Jan will be the difference between a CL spot and nothing. And the nothing could have big repercussions in the summer, when the big money teams will try and get Coutinho, and we may again need to start building afresh !

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1202 on: January 12, 2017, 07:57:21 AM »
are we close to buying anyone yet? or do the powers that be not appear to think we need reinforcements?
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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1203 on: January 12, 2017, 08:23:52 AM »
are we close to buying anyone yet? or do the powers that be not appear to think we need reinforcements?

There's no one being linked, so the club is either doing everything behind closed doors and very hush hush or there really is nothing.

We're apparently looking at people for the summer though.
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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1204 on: January 12, 2017, 08:46:44 AM »
are we close to buying anyone yet? or do the powers that be not appear to think we need reinforcements?

The powers that be being Klopp, given he is the one making the calls on this.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1205 on: January 12, 2017, 08:48:52 AM »
We didn't do enough in the summer, it's as simple as that.

2nd in the league & semi final of league cup, how much did you really expect us to change in one window?

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1206 on: January 12, 2017, 08:50:11 AM »
But who says we want to sign a player now? That's what i'm trying to get at, maybe we're not missing out on any players this window as we're not in for any players? Or the players we like are unavailable now but might be available in the summer so we're willing to wait. If we can't get them in the summer then fair enough, we tried everything and we'll just have to move on. We have a great opportunity to win the league, but as someone said on here a few days ago(or may have been on TAW) this doesn't feel like a do or die situation. I firmly believe we'll be up there challenging again next year and so does the manager I'd presume so he won't go for his 4th choice winger now when he still believes there's a chance to get his first/second choice in the summer.

He said himself we need a winger. We were trying for a left back for ages. There are gaps which we have looked to fill.

I understand that if the manager thinks there is a chance of the first choice player he will hold on.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1207 on: January 12, 2017, 08:54:46 AM »
Remember *loads* of people in the summer saying we didnt need a bigger squad because we had no European football and even back then it was clearly rubbish.

Injuries happen, we were aiming to be back in Europe next season anyway, and our squad was/is thin and needed more.

No European footie though mate, it was prudent.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1208 on: January 12, 2017, 09:00:07 AM »
2nd in the league & semi final of league cup, how much did you really expect us to change in one window?

That 2nd in the league could quite possibly be 5th in the league before we even play the Man Utd on Sunday mate. And then if the unthinkable should happen we could be 5th and only be 2 points ahead of them lot by the close of play.

We could and should've strengthened the midfielder in the summer. Brought in a couple more CM's that suit Klopps style of play and another Lacey attacking midfielder as well. And before you say our squad would've been too big, I don't see Chelsea having too many problems managing their squad without European football.
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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1209 on: January 12, 2017, 09:01:27 AM »
Remember *loads* of people in the summer saying we didnt need a bigger squad because we had no European football and even back then it was clearly rubbish.

Injuries happen, we were aiming to be back in Europe next season anyway, and our squad was/is thin and needed more.

No European footie though mate, it was prudent.

Depends on what positions and form though? In attack we had Coutinho, Firmino, Sturridge, Mane, Ings and Origi and that felt enough. We probably could do with a winger but i dont think it was a life or death situation.

In midfield we had Wijnaldum, Can, Henderson, Grujic, Lallana and we probably though there was a quality shortage but they have done well. Can has been poor this season and in hindsight we are definitely short if we constantly played a 3 in there.

The only area where it was clearly short was full back and centre back.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1210 on: January 12, 2017, 09:03:20 AM »
There's no one being linked, so the club is either doing everything behind closed doors and very hush hush or there really is nothing.

We're apparently looking at people for the summer though.

thanks for the response. and summer signings?! They realize, right, that we're one loss away from falling out of the champions league places?
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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1211 on: January 12, 2017, 09:04:51 AM »
thanks for the response. and summer signings?! They realize, right, that we're one loss away from falling out of the champions league places?

Even if we do on Sunday there is no reason to panic. We have a great run in and we shouldnt really have a fixture congestion issue.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1212 on: January 12, 2017, 09:06:19 AM »
That 2nd in the league could quite possibly be 5th in the league before we even play the Man Utd on Sunday mate. And then if the unthinkable should happen we could be 5th and only be 2 points ahead of them lot by the close of play.

If, if, if.

We could also end the weekend 2 points off top and 5 ahead of 3rd if you wanna do ifs.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1213 on: January 12, 2017, 09:08:58 AM »
2nd in the league & semi final of league cup, how much did you really expect us to change in one window?

So if we're out of the cup and 5th does that change? We'll know how prepared we were in May, not after 5 months.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1214 on: January 12, 2017, 09:13:47 AM »
Depends on what positions and form though? In attack we had Coutinho, Firmino, Sturridge, Mane, Ings and Origi and that felt enough. We probably could do with a winger but i dont think it was a life or death situation.

In midfield we had Wijnaldum, Can, Henderson, Grujic, Lallana and we probably though there was a quality shortage but they have done well. Can has been poor this season and in hindsight we are definitely short if we constantly played a 3 in there.

The only area where it was clearly short was full back and centre back.

Depends how much stock you place in players such as Ings/Origi/Grujic I suppose. All of them a combination of never being good enough, young/raw but talent and young but never having kicked a ball outside of Serbia (attribute those descriptions as you like).

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1215 on: January 12, 2017, 09:14:26 AM »
Even if we do on Sunday there is no reason to panic. We have a great run in and we shouldnt really have a fixture congestion issue.

It's not about panicking, it's about being prudent and making sure that even if we were to have an injury crisis sometime over the next 4 months, then we're not stuck playing the kids. We haven't actually played that well for more than a month now... we've scraped some good results but Firmino's form has turned to crap and Sturridge hasn't quite hit any kind of form and Can has been borderline dreadful. We could get lucky, but i'd much rather see us prepare for being somewhat unlucky injury wise.
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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1216 on: January 12, 2017, 09:17:19 AM »
Depends on what positions and form though? In attack we had Coutinho, Firmino, Sturridge, Mane, Ings and Origi and that felt enough. We probably could do with a winger but i dont think it was a life or death situation.

In midfield we had Wijnaldum, Can, Henderson, Grujic, Lallana and we probably though there was a quality shortage but they have done well. Can has been poor this season and in hindsight we are definitely short if we constantly played a 3 in there.

The only area where it was clearly short was full back and centre back.

Problem is most of our attacking players specialise in one area (number 9 position) and they mostly lack pace. Origi and Mane are the only 2 players we have who can stretch defences. Our attacking options are unbalanced and we don't need 4 players who best play as a striker when we play with 1 upfront.
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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1217 on: January 12, 2017, 09:20:04 AM »
Problem is most of our attacking players specialise in one area (number 9 position) and they mostly lack pace. Origi and Mane are the only 2 players we have who can stretch defences. Our attacking options are unbalanced and we don't need 4 players who specialise as a striker when we play with 1 upfront.

Exactly, people are obsessed with numbers and are ignoring the qualities certain players bring to the team/system.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1218 on: January 12, 2017, 09:27:13 AM »
Problem is most of our attacking players specialise in one area (number 9 position) and they mostly lack pace. Origi and Mane are the only 2 players we have who can stretch defences. Our attacking options are unbalanced and we don't need 4 players who best play as a striker when we play with 1 upfront.

Yes I understand and yes we do need a winger. I am also quite vocal on the excuses of not being able to sign one of those in January.

But another way to look at it is how generally poorly even the likes of Origi and Sturridge have been when up front. Origi scored a fair few goals but some of his performances were better last season. Maybe if when they played they were much better then we wouldnt have an issue if we lost some performance by switching Firmino wide.

Most fans would have expected better performances this season from the likes of Sturridge, Can and Origi.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1219 on: January 12, 2017, 09:27:56 AM »
Thing is, if he's better then why isn't he playing or even coming on as a sub, considering we play better with a winger and neither Firmino nor Sturridge are in form? It's all well and good having lots of bright young prospects, and in theory I can see the idea of not buying more players because it might block their way, but if they can't be trusted in the first team - and Klopp doesn't seem to trust them - then what does it matter?

We've been using relatively few players this season with a system that requires a lot of running, and now in mid-January they're looking knackered. So what are we going to do: buy a player or two in the window to fortify the squad, start giving youngsters like TAA, Ojo, Gomez and Stewart proper minutes, or keep our fingers crossed and hope things right themselves? Because it's going to have to be one of the three, and the last one isn't working right now. We're going to need players if and when we qualify for Europe next year anyway, so why not get them in now when they can help boost what's still a title challenge?

I don't disagree with any of that mate. Good post in fact. I was simply pointing out that Markovic is not, and never will be the answer because he isn't good enough and that - given the choice between the two - I'd rather put faith in Ojo.

Remember *loads* of people in the summer saying we didnt need a bigger squad because we had no European football and even back then it was clearly rubbish.

Injuries happen, we were aiming to be back in Europe next season anyway, and our squad was/is thin and needed more.

No European footie though mate, it was prudent.

I'll never forget the shit I got on here for daring to suggest that our bench on the opening day of the season was pretty pathetic for a side with ambitions of top four and winning a trophy, European football or no European football.

This was our bench that day:

Substitutes
13Manninger
16Grujic
23Can
27Origi
32Matip
35Stewart
66Alexander-Arnold

Obviously Manninger is a red herring, but now that we've done brilliantly to get ourselves in the title mix, and the stakes feel higher, it's even more stark.

People seem to have buried their heads in the sand about it for a long time. You'll constantly hear people go on about how many injuries we have, when in reality it's not been more than three or four senior players all season. Last season we had a genuine injury crisis around this point of the season. This season there's been no such thing.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1220 on: January 12, 2017, 09:31:05 AM »
People seem to have buried their heads in the sand about it for a long time.

I don't think anyone has ever thought the squad was as strong as it could be, I think some just think that Klopp was never going to fix it in one summer window.

You couldn't possibly had expected him to go from what we had to a whole squad full of top class players/options in just that window, surely?

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1221 on: January 12, 2017, 09:36:31 AM »
It's not about panicking, it's about being prudent and making sure that even if we were to have an injury crisis sometime over the next 4 months, then we're not stuck playing the kids. We haven't actually played that well for more than a month now... we've scraped some good results but Firmino's form has turned to crap and Sturridge hasn't quite hit any kind of form and Can has been borderline dreadful. We could get lucky, but i'd much rather see us prepare for being somewhat unlucky injury wise.

The thing is, our form has dipped due to injuries and your judging what could happen based on a point in time that is the trough in our form. We are due to have back this weekend three of our starting players (and probably first names on the teamsheet) in Matip, Henderson and Coutinho. That will give some players a breather on the bench and improve the quality of the match day squad. Plus the three players you have said about in Firmino, Sturridge and Can being in poor form are good players- what is to say they won't return to form in the coming weeks?

We need a wide player, I don't think anyone would argue with that at all. We've had 4 months since the summer to be preparing to get one and the manager has been vocal about wanting a winger, so yes its very frustrating not having someone lined up. But, they need to be a good player who can contribute now and there aren't many available during this window (I've said previously that perhaps now is the time to overpay to get someone in who we want like Brandt). Lets see what happens.

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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1222 on: January 12, 2017, 09:46:31 AM »
The thing is, our form has dipped due to injuries and your judging what could happen based on a point in time that is the trough in our form. We are due to have back this weekend three of our starting players (and probably first names on the teamsheet) in Matip, Henderson and Coutinho. That will give some players a breather on the bench and improve the quality of the match day squad. Plus the three players you have said about in Firmino, Sturridge and Can being in poor form are good players- what is to say they won't return to form in the coming weeks?

We need a wide player, I don't think anyone would argue with that at all. We've had 4 months since the summer to be preparing to get one and the manager has been vocal about wanting a winger, so yes its very frustrating not having someone lined up. But, they need to be a good player who can contribute now and there aren't many available during this window (I've said previously that perhaps now is the time to overpay to get someone in who we want like Brandt). Lets see what happens.

That's exactly my point. Our form has dipped due to injuries, and coutinho being back is huge for us. But what if he gets injured again? what if Mane comes back and then gets injured? or we could get lucky like Leicester did last season. It could go either way. My point is given where we are now and what we have to gain over the next six months by perhaps overspending 10m on a player we will probably need next season anyway if things go to plan, it would look very bad if things did turn to shit and we're found short on quality.
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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1223 on: January 12, 2017, 09:49:09 AM »
I don't think anyone has ever thought the squad was as strong as it could be, I think some just think that Klopp was never going to fix it in one summer window.

You couldn't possibly had expected him to go from what we had to a whole squad full of top class players/options in just that window, surely?
I didn't, but depending on how the season started and what our most obvious needs would be four months later, I expected us to use this window to keep improvning the squad. If we are all more or less in agreement that we should buy about 4-5 quality players in the summer, it makes sense to me to start adding to the squad now. At least one or two. Even if they don't make an immediate impact, we have less to do in the summer and presumably those two players are better prepared for the next season regardless of what happen during the run in of this one.

It's still time left, and I'll withhold any judgement until the window is over, but I think it would be a big mistake if we don't add quality to our squad now.

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« Reply #1224 on: January 12, 2017, 09:51:26 AM »
Remember *loads* of people in the summer saying we didnt need a bigger squad because we had no European football and even back then it was clearly rubbish.

Injuries happen, we were aiming to be back in Europe next season anyway, and our squad was/is thin and needed more.

No European footie though mate, it was prudent.
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« Reply #1225 on: January 12, 2017, 09:57:24 AM »
I don't think anyone has ever thought the squad was as strong as it could be, I think some just think that Klopp was never going to fix it in one summer window.

You couldn't possibly had expected him to go from what we had to a whole squad full of top class players/options in just that window, surely?

I agree you're never going to fix all problems in one window, especially when the wage budget and net transfer spend seems to decrease year by year. But there were a lot of people in the summer - or perhaps after a few good results in September - claiming that we had already built our best ever squad (in the Premier League era). I know we've never exactly been as blessed as Ferguson's United or Mancini/Pellegrini's City in terms of squad depth, but I do think we've almost certainly had better options from the bench in my lifetime. I genuinely don't think we're particularly well stocked in comparison to our rivals in terms of either depth or quality in any area on the pitch other than directly up front.

I'm prepared to be patient, and I still truly believe we will finish in the top four providing we don't get any lengthy injuries to 4-5 of our key players, but it is seriously frustrating that we don't look to be signing anyone this window when you could make an argument we're three players short of where we need to be *now*, let alone next season with some form of European football. Just one player could make a huge difference to the fanbase's belief, the players' legs and confidence, and how our season pans out.

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« Reply #1226 on: January 12, 2017, 10:16:51 AM »
I get that the club want to get the right player and are willing to play the long game in that regard (read: get the best price). But it seems we are missing an opportunity by not spending a little extra now. Clubs stating that the player we are interested in are not for sale this window is just talk. They want a good price, which is understandable, but us dawdling has proved fatal to deals in the past and will probably prove so again.

I may be proven wrong but we are starting to look a bit predictable and without Mane a little toothless. Klopp sides tend to rely on pace in attack and we have very little of that right now.

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« Reply #1227 on: January 12, 2017, 10:34:56 AM »
Still don't see anything happening even a loan.

However, if we fall short this year (out of the top 4) and we have a low budget for the summer you'd have to think the knives will be out for owners.

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« Reply #1228 on: January 12, 2017, 10:39:25 AM »
Bilic also tells reporters his star player Dimitri Payet - a scorer of so many impressive goals since he arrived from Marseille two summers ago - doesn't want to play for West Ham.

Wondering would Klopp be interested?
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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1229 on: January 12, 2017, 10:42:40 AM »
Klopp is all about long term, I think we all get that now.

My opinion before this window was that if would be worth it for us to overspend this window on one or two very good players if that helps the push around 2nd or even first place this season. My logic is probably not shared by the club, namely City, Chelsea and Utd are not fully re-stocked yet with their new managers in place: THEY WILL BE after the summer.

I may well be wrong, but it feels like our side is a little thin, and could be succeptible to too many draws for the rest of the season. The goal fest could dry up because they cannot burn out Firmino in his favoured position.

Plus, the defence. If Matip is not healthy, we'll ship the odd goal or two against any team with ambition, balls and a bit of pace.

I think many of us imagined we would add a pacey winger this window, probably from Germany. Let's see if that still happens

 

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« Reply #1230 on: January 12, 2017, 10:43:55 AM »
I know it won't happen but I'd love to see us go get Payet. A signing to win a title anyone? Would be the difference.

Would be worried about his wage demands though.

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« Reply #1231 on: January 12, 2017, 10:46:54 AM »
Bilic also tells reporters his star player Dimitri Payet - a scorer of so many impressive goals since he arrived from Marseille two summers ago - doesn't want to play for West Ham.

Wondering would Klopp be interested?

He won't be - not his kind of attacking player. And he shouldn't be in for a 30 year old flair player type
BUT if he really wants out of West Ham he'd be awesome as a short term loan (option to buy or whatever keeps him happy) to come off the bench and change games for us over the next 5 months

Literally zero chance of it happening whatsoever because its not our MO (which is fair enough) but its fun to think about. Imagine 0-0 with some mid table dross on 70 minutes. They're exhausted from our normal work rate and Payet comes on with time and space........

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« Reply #1232 on: January 12, 2017, 10:48:39 AM »
I know it won't happen but I'd love to see us go get Payet. A signing to win a title anyone? Would be the difference.

Would be worried about his wage demands though.

Personally I'd love him at Anfield.
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« Reply #1233 on: January 12, 2017, 10:49:28 AM »
Still think we've got the right number of players for a non Champions league season but lack quality and balance in the squad overall. It's loads better than last year but the quality isn't quite there.

For instance:
Replace Sturridge with another Mane type winger and the squad is much better balanced IMO. Firmino is way better as a striker, Origi is good cover and Mane could play there in a pinch. We'd get a lot more use out of a quality winger then we're getting from Sturridge.

If we replace Moreno with a guy like Hector we could have Milner as a utility that could cover both fullbacks and CM. I love what he's doing at LB and wouldn't want to change that but he could be a chess piece for us to move around.

If Lucas and Stewart we're replaced with a really good DM/CM like Fabinho from Monaco then Henderson we'd have the option of playing Fabinho or Henderson further forward, Fabinho at RB covering Clyne or RW when Mane was out. He's a really dynamic player and I think would give the squad exactly what it's lacking at the moment. 
Don't know who Fabinho is, and haven't seen much of Hector, but the general idea is correct. I think most who want us to strenghten the squad don't want more players necessarily, just better quality and balance than what we've got now.

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« Reply #1234 on: January 12, 2017, 10:49:40 AM »
Personally I'd love him at Anfield.
His attitude and work-rate is awful, would never fit into a Klopp team. 
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« Reply #1235 on: January 12, 2017, 10:49:55 AM »
Same chance of us signing Ivanka Trump as Payet from West Ham.
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« Reply #1236 on: January 12, 2017, 11:03:12 AM »
His attitude and work-rate is awful, would never fit into a Klopp team. 

It'll never happen but Klopp might get the best out of him ?

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« Reply #1237 on: January 12, 2017, 11:17:46 AM »
It'll never happen but Klopp might get the best out of him ?

Probably end up in China
Might do but then again he might not, seems an unnecessary risk especially when Klopp prefers a team ethic and tight squad.

Besides, with Coutinho and Firmino taking up two of the front three positions I'd prefer us to go for someone with pace.
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Re: One General Liverpool Transfer Thread to rule them all
« Reply #1238 on: January 12, 2017, 11:36:14 AM »
so I avoid the main forum after a defeat (only had to do it 3 times this season so far!) to avoid the rants and dummy chucking, come in here to see if theres any decent transfer goss, and now I'm thinking I'm in the wrong forum.  :-\

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« Reply #1239 on: January 12, 2017, 11:41:19 AM »
Remember *loads* of people in the summer saying we didnt need a bigger squad because we had no European football and even back then it was clearly rubbish.

Injuries happen, we were aiming to be back in Europe next season anyway, and our squad was/is thin and needed more.

No European footie though mate, it was prudent.

How big is big enough?

And when does too big become more difficult to manage in terms of squad morale?

We are nearly 5 months into the season and we only have 5 players in our squad that have started 20 games or more this season. That's not a massive work load. On average, it's 5 games a month at most.

The following 1st team squad members have made the following number of starts this season. That's 8 1st team members who've started less than 15 games each in 5 months. They are spread across defensive, midfield and attacking positions. Injuries have played a part here. But that doesn't explain the whole story. It's the strength of the squad and number of games that dictate mainly why the likes of Sturridge, Can, Origi, Moreno, Grujic, Lucas haven't started very often so far.

Matip 14 starts
Coutinho 13
Emre Can 13
Klavan 12
Origi 10
Lucas 8
Moreno 6
Grujic 2


If we bought more players in the summer then how many starts would they have had? And at the expense of who? There's only limited number of games and you can't just stock pile a few extras players just incase.

We can talk about squad composition and that not being correct. There's probably some discussion there to be had. Primarily around the alternatives in the squad when Mane and Henderson are absent.

It's pretty obvious that Klopp wanted to keep the core of last year's squad and add to it over the summer. It probably helped us hit the ground running during a difficult start to the season. Incorporating more players, following a Euro's and Copa America, may have been detrimental.

Could we have done more in the summer? Maybe. Though I don't think it's purely about having more numbers. The stats suggest are players aren't playing lots of games, Any extra transfer dealing  would have been more to do with re-shaping the squad further.

Bearing in mind this is against the backdrop of a number of INs and OUTs during the summer already, and subsequently a team that finds itself in 2nd in the league and in the SF of a domestic cup. Personally  wouldn't be so harsh on the job the manager is doing with regards to transfers.
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