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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2880 on: January 3, 2019, 10:18:24 PM »
What a player.

He's an absolute diamond, he's going to develop into a player of the highest quality.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2881 on: January 3, 2019, 10:19:10 PM »
He's brilliant. Bizarre some get on his case so badly but it always happens with the local lads.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2882 on: January 3, 2019, 10:23:22 PM »
Thought he was fantastic tonight - once his positioning improves and he learns how to take a throw-in he'll take some stopping
Better than the Invincibles.
Better than Mourinho's Chelsea.
Better than the fabled Man Utd treble team.

I'm alright with that.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2883 on: January 3, 2019, 10:23:35 PM »
I like him, there is massive scope for improvement and he will score free kicks, he will assist goals, he is also in my fantasy side but you cannot change the fact that his defending, mentality(needs to get that Jamie carragher bastard attitude about him) and if Liverpool played liverpool I could bet Jurgen would be trying to exploit the right.


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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2884 on: January 3, 2019, 10:25:23 PM »
Sane was killing him in the second half.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2885 on: January 3, 2019, 10:26:00 PM »
Had a shit game, very wasteful and got done by Sane many times. Brilliant cross for the goal though.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2886 on: January 3, 2019, 10:26:38 PM »
Part of one of the best defences in the world at 20 and people question him after a game in which we gave up few chances to probably the best attack in the world. Ours fans are mental.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2887 on: January 3, 2019, 10:26:43 PM »
I like him, there is massive scope for improvement and he will score free kicks, he will assist goals, he is also in my fantasy side but you cannot change the fact that his defending, mentality(needs to get that Jamie carragher bastard attitude about him) and if Liverpool played liverpool I could bet Jurgen would be trying to exploit the right.

There generally is when a player is a couple of months past his 20th birthday.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with his attitude and he's a far better defender than you're giving him credit for.  And he'll get much, much better with a bit of patience - his manager will give him that because Klopp knows when he's got a special player on his hands and that's what Trent is.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2888 on: January 3, 2019, 10:26:45 PM »
I know he puts a decent ball in but whose got some stats on how many times he concedes possession?
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2889 on: January 3, 2019, 10:29:36 PM »
Thought he was fantastic tonight - once his positioning improves and he learns how to take a throw-in he'll take some stopping

I like the positivity

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2890 on: January 3, 2019, 10:29:53 PM »
I know he puts a decent ball in but whose got some stats on how many times he concedes possession?
I think that both he and Robertson can be a little one-dimensional and need to either take on players a little more often, or play a short pass, instead of trying deep crosses and defence-splitting through balls all of the time.

Although, defensively, he was excellent.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2891 on: January 3, 2019, 10:30:26 PM »
Bunch of weirdos ITT. Watch the game back.
Better than the Invincibles.
Better than Mourinho's Chelsea.
Better than the fabled Man Utd treble team.

I'm alright with that.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2892 on: January 3, 2019, 10:31:54 PM »
Bunch of weirdos ITT. Watch the game back.

Do you have a small tv by any chance. Like I said the lad has huge potential, probably more so than just a right back but if tonight was fantastic we are setting the bar dreadfully low. Weirdo

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2893 on: January 3, 2019, 10:32:10 PM »
Its a shame he has to deal with lovren playing next to him

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2894 on: January 3, 2019, 10:34:25 PM »
Its a shame he has to deal with lovren playing next to him

Well, thatís doesnít help him. I knew it was going to be a bad game for him the moment he unnecessarily fouled Aguero for the yellow. Heís just a stupid guy.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2895 on: January 3, 2019, 10:34:59 PM »
Played well I thought. One or two mistakes but nothing costly and played a huge part in getting us back in the game.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2896 on: January 3, 2019, 10:35:05 PM »
He was found wanting defensively on occasion, but he was brave and always looking to create.

People forget that he is only 20 years old.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2897 on: January 3, 2019, 10:35:27 PM »
Loving the variety of opinions in this thread  ;D
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2898 on: January 3, 2019, 10:37:20 PM »
Sane can skin any full back in the world, Trent is hardly alone there. Wasnít completely one sided and he still got forward and drove us on in the build up to the equaliser.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2899 on: January 3, 2019, 10:38:47 PM »
Well, thatís doesnít help him. I knew it was going to be a bad game for him the moment he unnecessarily fouled Aguero for the yellow. Heís just a stupid guy.
That card was practically forced by TAAs turnover.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2900 on: January 3, 2019, 10:40:19 PM »
I think tonight showed that we would do well to get another Right back.

TAA not good enough yet at the elite level. It is no wonder city focused virtually all their attacks on the right.

Perhaps a bid for Doherty? (New Andy Robertson). Should give TAA the pressure to either up his defensive game, or sit out for such games.

But clearly deficient on this level...and not showing signs of improving.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2901 on: January 3, 2019, 10:42:30 PM »
That card was practically forced by TAAs turnover.

Yeah, I know but it was still unnecessary. Salah and Van Dijk weíre right there, would have taken Firmino and an Arsenal defends to score there.


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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2902 on: January 3, 2019, 10:43:08 PM »
I think tonight showed that we would do well to get another Right back.

TAA not good enough yet at the elite level. It is no wonder city focused virtually all their attacks on the right.

Perhaps a bid for Doherty? (New Andy Robertson).
Should give TAA the pressure to either up his defensive game, or sit out for such games.

But clearly deficient on this level...and not showing signs of improving.

 :lmao

Not good enough at the elite level?  Were you asleep for all of our CL games last season?

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2903 on: January 3, 2019, 10:44:00 PM »
I think tonight showed that we would do well to get another Right back.

TAA not good enough yet at the elite level. It is no wonder city focused virtually all their attacks on the right.

Perhaps a bid for Doherty? (New Andy Robertson). Should give TAA the pressure to either up his defensive game, or sit out for such games.

But clearly deficient on this level...and not showing signs of improving.

We have one, Nathaniel Clyne. Heís an excellent defender, doesnít do as much as TAA going forward but he is solid at the back.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2904 on: January 3, 2019, 10:44:21 PM »
Doherty being our answer for not having someone playing at the "elite" level.

Words fail me.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2905 on: January 3, 2019, 10:45:32 PM »
I think tonight showed that we would do well to get another Right back.

TAA not good enough yet at the elite level. It is no wonder city focused virtually all their attacks on the right.

Perhaps a bid for Doherty? (New Andy Robertson). Should give TAA the pressure to either up his defensive game, or sit out for such games.

But clearly deficient on this level...and not showing signs of improving.

Haha what a crazy opinion. Deficient at this level and not improving at 20 years old?

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2906 on: January 3, 2019, 10:47:52 PM »
Do people honestly think Trent gives the ball away more often than most of our players because he's deficient on the ball?

Look at his touch, inside passes, his crossfield passes, his crosses. Technically he's superior to most of our midfielders.

That 4-3-3 consistently hangs a 20-year-old defender out to dry. Wijnaldum offered fuck all tangible support tonight in a rare below-par big game, Salah doesn't track back, Henderson and Lovren constantly put him in tight spots on the touchline because they shit themselves every time they're pressed.

He has plenty to work on but after playing a huge role in getting us back into that game (no coincidence he improved with the change of shape and added support) he deserves cutting some flak.
Better than the Invincibles.
Better than Mourinho's Chelsea.
Better than the fabled Man Utd treble team.

I'm alright with that.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2907 on: January 3, 2019, 10:56:08 PM »
Instrumental in our goal. He gets targeted at the back because he's not quite there yet as a top level defender and we have so few weaknesses that someone has to be picked out. When Salah's on the right he doesn't get much defensive support from the wing and the midfield didn't really help him today, neither did his nearest centre-back.

Thought other than a five minute spell at the start of the second half where he and the whole team looked shaky, he did OK. And man, he's learning so, so much this season.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2908 on: January 3, 2019, 10:59:07 PM »
Do people honestly think Trent gives the ball away more often than most of our players because he's deficient on the ball?

Look at his touch, inside passes, his crossfield passes, his crosses. Technically he's superior to most of our midfielders.

That 4-3-3 consistently hangs a 20-year-old defender out to dry. Wijnaldum offered fuck all tangible support tonight in a rare below-par big game, Salah doesn't track back, Henderson and Lovren constantly put him in tight spots on the touchline because they shit themselves every time they're pressed.

He has plenty to work on but after playing a huge role in getting us back into that game (no coincidence he improved with the change of shape and added support) he deserves cutting some flak.


I think Trent was poor today, itís my honest opinion. I will rewatch later but live, he was constant source of frustration. Maybe I was harsh, but brilliant football minds arenít attacking him for no reason, they definitely donít do that with Robbo. Instead of comparing him to our midfielders, compare him to our other full back... he falls well short, there fore improvement in necessary.

Bring up another point that annoyed me, why take Mane off to just push Gini out to the left, Mane creates the chaos that is our forward line and if Iím honest gini did absolutely nothing after that move. I wonder if he was a little frustrated with Mane not tracking Sanes run for the second. Either Hendo or Gini should have made way for Shaq, def not Mane. Firmino even before him.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2909 on: January 3, 2019, 11:05:03 PM »
Doherty being our answer for not having someone playing at the "elite" level.

Words fail me.

If you haven't watched wolves games this season, please say so. But don't scoff.

There's a reason Doherty is currently toping the Right back chart in the PL this season. He has had an outstanding season. Quality in defense but also great going forward. Not got the same technical ability as TAA, but streets ahead when it comes to defending and he also has great pace.

I can see why Klopp would start Gomez for such games.

There was a position of play where TAA literally stopped running after Sane was released behind him, and threw his hands up. That kind of effort is abysmall in such a big game.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2910 on: January 3, 2019, 11:05:48 PM »
I dont get the criticism.  He was fine today. Sane is a tough cover for any right back.

He didn't cost us 2 goals, unlike a certain incredibly experienced defender. 

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2911 on: January 3, 2019, 11:07:52 PM »
If you haven't watched wolves games this season, please say so. But don't scoff.

There's a reason Doherty is currently toping the Right back chart in the PL this season. He has had an outstanding season. Quality in defense but also great going forward. Not got the same technical ability as TAA, but streets ahead when it comes to defending and he also has great pace.

I can see why Klopp would start Gomez for such games.

There was a position of play where TAA literally stopped running after Sane was released behind him, and threw his hands up. That kind of effort is abysmall in such a big game.

Seems like you're the one who needs to watch more Wolves games given that Doherty plays right wing-back, not right-back. Completely different kettle of fish.

He plays so advanced that Nuno refers to him as a 'winger'.
Better than the Invincibles.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2912 on: January 3, 2019, 11:09:46 PM »
Haha what a crazy opinion. Deficient at this level and not improving at 20 years old?

First we used to say, 'He only turned 18' then 'he is still just 19' and now it is 'he is just 20'.

FFS! I'm not suggesting that he is shit. but it is clear that he is still deficient. And if he is, we need to get proper reinforcements that can compete for the spot, if TAA is not performing at a top level. If he is able to use that as fuel to take his performances up longer term, then fantastic. But right now, we are overloaded on the left, with Robertson and Van Dijk making it super secure, with TAA and Lovren making the right side open season.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2913 on: January 3, 2019, 11:13:00 PM »
Seems like you're the one who needs to watch more Wolves games given that Doherty plays right wing-back, not right-back. Completely different kettle of fish.

He plays so advanced that Nuno refers to him as a 'winger'.

Reminds me of the Pizczeck at Dortmund. Was also left winger/wingback tranformed into one of the best right backs bu klopp.  Doherty already showing good understanding of defense and has a great engine. But the winger part of him shows he can be useful going forward.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2914 on: January 3, 2019, 11:13:03 PM »
I dont get the criticism.  He was fine today. Sane is a tough cover for any right back.

He didn't cost us 2 goals, unlike a certain incredibly experienced defender.

Just off the top of my head, thereís was a moment late in the game. Sane and Trent weíre competing, Trent found himself out of position and Shaq came in to help and as soon as that happened, Trent just stood there, didnít get in the box, didnít cut off any passing lanes, just stood there and watched shaq do his job.

Wake up lad. Itís a mentality thing. Got all the other tools just needs a foreman to put them to work.

The other experienced defender should be finding his time on merseyside has an expiry date.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2915 on: January 3, 2019, 11:13:08 PM »
FFS! I'm not suggesting that he is shit. but it is clear that he is still deficient.

Youíre talking absolute nonsense.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2916 on: January 3, 2019, 11:13:36 PM »
Reminds me of the Pizczeck at Dortmund. Was also left winger/wingback tranformed into one of the best right backs bu klopp.  Doherty already showing good understanding of defense and has a great engine. But the winger part of him shows he can be useful going forward.

If we could get rid of Salah and get Adama Traore in too it could be all systems go!

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2917 on: January 3, 2019, 11:15:59 PM »
If we could get rid of Salah and get Adama Traore in too it could be all systems go!

Wolves would never agree to it

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2918 on: January 3, 2019, 11:19:49 PM »


FFS! I'm not suggesting that he is shit. but it is clear that he is still deficient. And if he is, we need to get proper reinforcements that can compete for the spot, if TAA is not performing at a top level. If he is able to use that as fuel to take his performances up longer term, then fantastic. But right now, we are overloaded on the left, with Robertson and Van Dijk making it super secure, with TAA and Lovren making the right side open season.

A wild theory; but it could be that TAA would have benefitted from having VVD next to him..

Another wild theory is that the genius of the manchester city manager would like to avoid VVD and is asking aguero to target lovren and build the play from that side; and then also creating problems for TAA
Itís not even about individuality, itís about the team. Our game was based on his controlling of the tempo. Squeeze the life out of the opposition and then strike. That is our game. Like a pack of pythons.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2919 on: January 3, 2019, 11:22:41 PM »
A wild theory; but it could be that TAA would have benefitted from having VVD next to him..

Another wild theory is that the genius of the manchester city manager would like to avoid VVD and is asking aguero to target lovren and build the play from that side; and then also creating problems for TAA

Thats actually a very good theory, but none the less TAA didnít cope well with that scenario and still needs to improve in case that happens again and itís more than likely to.