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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2760 on: November 7, 2018, 10:42:20 PM »
I am really starting to worry the cat is out of the bag regarding his lack of press resistance. We are seeing a recurring trend of him being pressed and hoofing it up the line into touch/to salah who is then crowded and loses it. I first noticed at Spurs last season. Then again this season. It was most glaring against Napoli. We have now seen it twice this week.

Lack of support.

I highlighted it last season in a game where he kept knocking it out trying to play it up the line and he signals it when he's struggling himself. You'll notice he looks up for an option, shuffles forward with the ball a little and signals he needs an option, looks up again and if no ones taken note he signals with his arms (both outstretched as if to say give me an option). Only if he STILL isn't offered sufficient support does he end up playing it away.

He's one of our best players when it comes to quick one twos and triangles, he has exceptional technique. At times the ball up the line is by design as Salah goes inside and peels wide taking his marker short before turning and running into the space he's vacated up the line, but sometimes we seem to overdo it and no one shows for Trent in the middle which could also utilise the same trick with Salah just creating a better angle for the pass out to him

Trent is fine, everyone has dips in form.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2761 on: November 7, 2018, 10:50:20 PM »


sometimes we seem to overdo it and no one shows for Trent in the middle which could also utilise the same trick with Salah just creating a better angle for the pass out to him

Trent is fine, everyone has dips in form.

Lack of passing options in the middle is a recurring theme.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2762 on: November 8, 2018, 12:32:58 AM »
Lack of passing options in the middle is a recurring theme.

It is but its something we have all the tools to fix immediately, Henderson although he has flaws, he fucking shows for the ball relentlessly, Fabinho loves to do the same, constantly drops to provide an option and create triangles to play around the opposition. In fact Keita is great at it too, he's playing within himself a little at the moment but once he gets gametime he will grow in confidence and excel.

I'd keep Trent in the side and sort things in the midfield

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2763 on: November 8, 2018, 06:25:12 AM »
Youngsters can be inconsistent. He will outgrow it. Is Clyne still out of contention? TAA can benefit from a break, and so would Gomez (as RB)
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2764 on: November 11, 2018, 08:35:43 PM »
Youngsters can be inconsistent. He will outgrow it. Is Clyne still out of contention? TAA can benefit from a break, and so would Gomez (as RB)
Was thinking this myself.  Both have played a hell of a lot of football in the last 18 months and it wouldn't do either any harm to have a bit of a break.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2765 on: November 11, 2018, 08:51:00 PM »
Was thinking this myself.  Both have played a hell of a lot of football in the last 18 months and it wouldn't do either any harm to have a bit of a break.

Trent could definitely do with a break, his delivery in particular seems to have dropped off a cliff this season. Not really sure why Clyne isn't trusted in games like today, unless he's just really struggling to get his fitness to what Klopp deems the required level.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2766 on: November 11, 2018, 10:59:11 PM »
Youngsters can be inconsistent. He will outgrow it. Is Clyne still out of contention? TAA can benefit from a break, and so would Gomez (as RB)

Is it too late in the day to try Henderson as a right back? Obviously it's an out-there suggestion but it would - in an attacking sense - get Jordan back to the running and one-two'ing that we enjoyed from him a few years back and doesn't disrupt the midfield.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2767 on: November 11, 2018, 11:27:47 PM »
Is it too late in the day to try Henderson as a right back? Obviously it's an out-there suggestion but it would - in an attacking sense - get Jordan back to the running and one-two'ing that we enjoyed from him a few years back and doesn't disrupt the midfield.
I'd rather see Henderson in the middle and Fabinho as a RB.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2768 on: November 12, 2018, 12:52:03 AM »
Our first goal was all about and all because of Trent. After Fulham's scandalously disallowed goal, Trent was pointing to the ground in front of him for Allison to lash the ball at. Both of them were perfect.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2769 on: November 12, 2018, 01:01:47 AM »
Our first goal was all about and all because of Trent. After Fulham's scandalously disallowed goal, Trent was pointing to the ground in front of him for Allison to lash the ball at. Both of them were perfect.

Salah started to celebrate then made sure everyone went over to celebrate with TAA. Was classy. And deserved. Though he has been getting pissed off with himself, he's still contributing brilliantly to creating. It's helping a lot, while we wait for our midfield to be replenished

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2770 on: November 12, 2018, 01:07:41 AM »
Our first goal was all about and all because of Trent. After Fulham's scandalously disallowed goal, Trent was pointing to the ground in front of him for Allison to lash the ball at. Both of them were perfect.

Might be missing the sarcasm - but Fulham was offside

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2771 on: November 13, 2018, 02:14:43 PM »
I'd rather see Henderson in the middle and Fabinho as a RB.

Play the tactical player in the middle area and the physical one on the outside as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2772 on: November 13, 2018, 02:55:14 PM »
He's been sub par this season, but we actually challenged for the league with someone who had been masquerading as a footballer for years (Glen Johnson).

Think Trent's played a LOT of football, and its not like he's been proper bad. We barely concede goals!  He's had some very strong showings, and some bad ones. I think we all got used to the crazy good form he had at the end of last season. That's hard for a 19/20 year old who isn't Mbappe to do.

Even the likes of Ousmane Dembele who cost bajillions have dips - Gomez had a bad spell last year when he kept costing us goals while misjudging the fight of the ball.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2773 on: November 13, 2018, 02:57:52 PM »
Is it too late in the day to try Henderson as a right back? Obviously it's an out-there suggestion but it would - in an attacking sense - get Jordan back to the running and one-two'ing that we enjoyed from him a few years back and doesn't disrupt the midfield.

Do you remember him at right midfield? The second he got pressed he lost the ball. He's arguably our best player at breaking opposition attacks, and close to our worst at being press-resistant. He runs into blind alleys whenever he's wide.

Here's an idea. Lets pick between 3 England Internationals who are natural defenders and have played RB regularly, and let Henderson play where he's actually good - midfield.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2774 on: November 13, 2018, 03:01:02 PM »
a couple of games off would be nice

problem is Clyne hardly plays now

last year we rotated TAA and gomez a lot but id be reluctant to take gomez out of CB
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2775 on: November 13, 2018, 03:37:16 PM »
Do you remember him at right midfield? The second he got pressed he lost the ball. He's arguably our best player at breaking opposition attacks, and close to our worst at being press-resistant. He runs into blind alleys whenever he's wide.

Here's an idea. Lets pick between 3 England Internationals who are natural defenders and have played RB regularly, and let Henderson play where he's actually good - midfield.
Yes I do and I recall two separate stints at the club where he played there. One he struggled because he was new and was expected to play an orthodox wide position, the second time was at the start of the 13/14 season and he was excellent before tucking infield yet still often moving into wide areas in the diamond.

To be honest it's weird you criticise his lacking of press-resistance and then want him to remain in a position where he continually is placed in a position to be pressed by the opposition.

The reason I suggested it is because by losing Trent for anyone of the other fullbacks means losing someone with attributes of a midfielder. I think he needs a rest but at the same time Gomez shouldn't be moved to accommodate it and Clyne has struggled for fitness while - even when fit - being someone who not only lacks press resistance but also the ability to move the ball out like anything other than a solid fullback which is great but so much of our play revolves around the quality of service from fullbacks so then you think outside the box. It's not impossible that Henderson could do what Delph did last season for City, especially considering he's a better player.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2776 on: November 15, 2018, 08:30:11 PM »
Cracking strike for his first England goal. Made up for him

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2777 on: November 15, 2018, 08:37:11 PM »
Hopefully give him the confidence boost heís needed
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2778 on: November 15, 2018, 08:54:09 PM »
Brilliant strike. TAAlos Alberto.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2779 on: November 15, 2018, 08:57:04 PM »
Thumped - Pickfor.....errrr....Guzan basically dove when the ball was in the net.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2780 on: November 15, 2018, 09:06:55 PM »
Great strike that.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2781 on: November 15, 2018, 09:40:59 PM »
Looks exhausted.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2782 on: November 15, 2018, 09:47:15 PM »
Neville just gave him motm.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2783 on: November 15, 2018, 09:48:54 PM »
Well deserved

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2784 on: November 15, 2018, 09:55:14 PM »
Nice goal and he played well.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2785 on: November 15, 2018, 10:23:53 PM »
Hope it gives him a boost and he regains his best form for us as a result - at least something good would have become of this international break then

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2786 on: November 15, 2018, 10:28:40 PM »
Excellent performance, well done Trent.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2787 on: November 15, 2018, 11:59:40 PM »
Very glad that he scored today.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2788 on: November 16, 2018, 01:30:37 AM »
Absolutely delighted for the lad, the least he deserves.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2789 on: November 20, 2018, 09:26:51 PM »
Rumors circling that he made the 5 man shortlist for the golden boy...

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2790 on: November 20, 2018, 09:38:30 PM »
Rumors circling that he made the 5 man shortlist for the golden boy...

I can confirm

Itís him, Mbappe, De Ligt, Kluivert and Tom Davies
I believe the average spend will go up £5 ahead and thatís being very conservative. So thatís £185k. Then you have a new 25k who will spend £10 a head thatís £250k. This is without the massively enhanced hospitality areas.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2791 on: November 20, 2018, 09:54:27 PM »
No contest, Tom Davies is going to win it. The people's Golden Boy.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2792 on: November 20, 2018, 09:55:54 PM »
I can confirm

Itís him, Mbappe, De Ligt, Kluivert and Tom Davies

One thing is not like the others.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2793 on: November 20, 2018, 10:07:20 PM »
One thing is not like the others.

You caught me

Mbappe isnít being considered because he won it last year and is also nominated for the Ballon Díor
I believe the average spend will go up £5 ahead and thatís being very conservative. So thatís £185k. Then you have a new 25k who will spend £10 a head thatís £250k. This is without the massively enhanced hospitality areas.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2794 on: November 24, 2018, 05:22:56 PM »
Well in Trent lad, what a goal! Eased a few nerves there :)
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2795 on: November 24, 2018, 05:28:44 PM »
What a goal! What a player!
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2796 on: November 24, 2018, 05:30:36 PM »
He was good for England as well. Could be coming into form at the perfect time.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2797 on: November 24, 2018, 05:30:44 PM »
Great having a free kick specialist of sorts in the team.

Needs to get more though as today's and Hoffenheim one are the only ones so far.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2798 on: November 24, 2018, 05:33:31 PM »
Needed the confidence boost i think, just like bobby

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #2799 on: November 24, 2018, 05:33:51 PM »
Take a bow, son!
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