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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3440 on: December 7, 2018, 10:04:54 AM »
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As with Sturridge, teams don't actually particularly want to sign injury prone players who haven't played properly for over a year. Especially struggling teams. Sturridge loan last season has probably put clubs off that sort of thing a bit. And players don't particularly want to leave a club on the up where he's on good wages, better facilities, been here for a long time and is still trusted by the manager. Its all a bit Football Manager thinking we'll sell Lallana.

Moreno looked dead in the water, and came back in last season
Sturridge looked dead in the water, and came back in this season
Origi looked dead in the water, and has come back in recently

If he's here, and there's literally no indication from anywhere that he wont be, then he'll be in and around the squad

To be honest, your standard of 'came back in' is pretty low. I don't think anyone is under any illusion that Moreno, Sturridge and Origi are very much on the peripheries of the squad. The same applies to Lallana, Clyne, Solanke etc. I think it says it all when we consider what would the team be like if Lallana were sold. In truth, I doubt anyone would notice - as the time have functioned perfectly fine without him for most of the year.

Unless he can get into full fitness very very soon, and start putting together some consistently excellent performances, I think Lallana's days are numbered at the club. Realistically he's competing with too many players to be able get his place back - Naby, Hendo, Gini, Shaq, Milner, Fabinho, AOC are all in contention to be named in a midfield 3. He's not quick enough to play in our front 3, where we rely on pace.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3441 on: December 7, 2018, 10:20:16 AM »
To be honest, your standard of 'came back in' is pretty low. I don't think anyone is under any illusion that Moreno, Sturridge and Origi are very much on the peripheries of the squad. The same applies to Lallana, Clyne, Solanke etc. I think it says it all when we consider what would the team be like if Lallana were sold. In truth, I doubt anyone would notice - as the time have functioned perfectly fine without him for most of the year.

Unless he can get into full fitness very very soon, and start putting together some consistently excellent performances, I think Lallana's days are numbered at the club. Realistically he's competing with too many players to be able get his place back - Naby, Hendo, Gini, Shaq, Milner, Fabinho, AOC are all in contention to be named in a midfield 3. He's not quick enough to play in our front 3, where we rely on pace.

Which is sort of the point

People weren't under any illusions that before last season, Moreno was done. Before this season, Sturridge and Origi were done. I doubt anyone even had them as an option. But as long as they're here, the manager will use them if he needs to (and he sometimes does need them) and it'll be the same with Lallana as he's already shown this season.

So yeah, unless Lallana is desperate to leave (which certainly doesn't seem to be the case) then he'll likely be here until his contract is up and will be in contention if/when he's available. And I'm not saying he should be in the team, just that its really unlikely he'll suddenly want to leave us to go to a shitty mid table side and a shitty mid table side are unlikely to offer anything like what we or he would want to leave. So best just get used to him either occasionally playing, or not playing and getting injured regularly
I believe the average spend will go up £5 ahead and that’s being very conservative. So that’s £185k. Then you have a new 25k who will spend £10 a head that’s £250k. This is without the massively enhanced hospitality areas.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3442 on: December 8, 2018, 02:25:49 PM »
Excellent cameo for the lad
I believe the average spend will go up £5 ahead and that’s being very conservative. So that’s £185k. Then you have a new 25k who will spend £10 a head that’s £250k. This is without the massively enhanced hospitality areas.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3443 on: December 8, 2018, 02:28:39 PM »
yes a quiet creeping back in to form, even with a  peaky blinders kind of attack on him.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3444 on: December 8, 2018, 02:30:47 PM »
Looked much sharper today. Be good to have him in form this month.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3445 on: December 8, 2018, 02:34:54 PM »
Bloodied but not beaten. Good to see him looking good off the bench again.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3446 on: December 8, 2018, 02:41:47 PM »
Very good cameo. He'll have a part to play this season.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3447 on: December 8, 2018, 02:45:09 PM »
Looked okay today to be fair to him..
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3448 on: December 8, 2018, 02:46:03 PM »
Looking sharp.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3449 on: December 8, 2018, 02:46:46 PM »
He looked quality when he came on even now he can still lead the press. I just hope he has some luck with the injuries as he could be a vital player for us.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3450 on: December 8, 2018, 02:47:50 PM »
He gets the pressing, doesn't he? Also looked much tidier on the ball today than he's done for a while. Happy days. :)
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3451 on: December 8, 2018, 03:07:09 PM »
Really good when he came on, great assist for Salah.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3452 on: December 8, 2018, 03:09:14 PM »
Excellent cameo for the lad
The sharpest that he has been for a long long while. Welcome back Adam!
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3453 on: December 8, 2018, 03:12:42 PM »
He sweated blood,good enough for me ;)
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3454 on: December 8, 2018, 03:35:37 PM »
Made up for the lad looked really sharp when he came on.

Not as close to being finished as some posters want to believe  ;)
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3455 on: December 8, 2018, 03:39:28 PM »
Looked really sharp and lively when he came on. Silky on the ball, smart ball over the top for Mo's third and some nice bits of pressing. Made up for him.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3456 on: December 8, 2018, 04:07:00 PM »
Fantastic cameo. All that I loved about Lallana (except all that blood) was there in those few minutes of display. Technique, touch, control & combination play. He's so lovely on the ball.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3457 on: December 8, 2018, 04:11:28 PM »
Fantastic cameo. All that I loved about Lallana (except all that blood) was there in those few minutes of display. Technique, touch, control & combination play. He's so lovely on the ball.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3458 on: December 8, 2018, 04:14:45 PM »
Fantastic cameo. All that I loved about Lallana (except all that blood) was there in those few minutes of display. Technique, touch, control & combination play. He's so lovely on the ball.

Yep, was very good, showed a bit of everything that is good about him!

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3459 on: December 8, 2018, 04:40:22 PM »
Great when he came on

As expected aswell.
 
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3460 on: December 8, 2018, 05:36:40 PM »
Me too. It was great to se Kloppo’s face light up when he mentioned Lallana’s performance this afternoon. The fella just wants to be entertained.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3461 on: December 8, 2018, 09:15:47 PM »
Other than the result of course and the Mo hatrick, his cameo today was the biggest positive.

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« Reply #3462 on: December 8, 2018, 10:50:48 PM »
Bringing him and Mané on was boss wasn't it? So good having a squad. It takes massive pressure off the manager and core players. Couple more and we're laughing.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3463 on: December 9, 2018, 01:53:20 AM »
Me too. It was great to se Kloppo’s face light up when he mentioned Lallana’s performance this afternoon. The fella just wants to be entertained.

Klopp loves him he's praised him numerous times last year even though he had the season he did, it's clear that he's going to give him every chance to make a contribution here, people are hell bent on us moving him on.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3465 on: December 9, 2018, 10:30:06 PM »
Other than the result of course and the Mo hatrick, his cameo today was the biggest positive.

Absolutely. We dont have another player like him in the squad so him looking much sharper was great to see and opens up many possibilities for us.

The main thing is he can get consistent training sessions and be available for games.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3466 on: December 10, 2018, 07:24:38 PM »
I have always been a big Lallana fan from his early soton days. Thought he was our best player a few seasons back and a perfect example of a Klopp player. This last time he was injured a certain part of the fan base wrote him off saying his finished or whatever. Think it started on Twitter always thought it was silly not like it was Torres after that Euros injury. Where the player was a shell of their selves. Lallana takes a while to find his stride but he is a top quality technician that must be respected.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3467 on: December 11, 2018, 02:18:08 PM »
Absolutely. We dont have another player like him in the squad so him looking much sharper was great to see and opens up many possibilities for us.
Very true. A Lallana at something close to his best is such a useful option to have, and probably the best option we could have in certain types of games. He's not one who crumbles when pressed, for example.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3468 on: December 11, 2018, 04:47:08 PM »
I agree with sentiments in here. An in-form Lallana in the squad available to be deployed / rotated in midfield and giving top quality performances would be a huge asset this season.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3469 on: January 7, 2019, 10:27:25 PM »
what's up with this fella now? frustrating as fuck  :butt

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3470 on: January 7, 2019, 11:10:21 PM »
As reliable as a glass hammer. Great attitude in terms of his work-rate but surely in twilight time as Liverpool player.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3471 on: January 7, 2019, 11:12:39 PM »
Assumed he was being saved to start the Brighton game after Klopps comments

Have noises about an injury come out or something?

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« Reply #3472 on: January 7, 2019, 11:13:52 PM »
Assumed he was being saved to start the Brighton game after Klopps comments

Have noises about an injury come out or something?

He’s injured with a ‘minor issue’. Unsurprisingly.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3473 on: January 7, 2019, 11:22:17 PM »
He’s injured with a ‘minor issue’. Unsurprisingly.

To be honest, he was barely playing anyway. Obviously we want as many players fit as possible but if it gives an extra game to someone like Keita or Shaqiri then it is what it is

As you say its unsurprising

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3474 on: January 8, 2019, 08:46:33 AM »
He's more injury prone now than Sturridge. I think a move abroad would be best for him now.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3475 on: January 10, 2019, 03:10:49 PM »
Is Lallana stuck in a catch-22? He needs enough games to get match fit and thus less injury prone, but we have improved sufficiently that we cannot justify giving him that time to get back. I don't think he is shot, but I am questioning whether we can offer him the time he needs to get back to the level he needs to be at to justify him getting game time. For the tight situation we would have called on him in previous seasons, Shaqiri is the new go to guy.

Would it be in our interests to loan him and let him get some serious game time, so we get back the player of previous seasons?

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3476 on: January 10, 2019, 03:12:52 PM »
Is Lallana stuck in a catch-22? He needs enough games to get match fit and thus less injury prone, but we have improved sufficiently that we cannot justify giving him that time to get back. I don't think he is shot, but I am questioning whether we can offer him the time he needs to get back to the level he needs to be at to justify him getting game time. For the tight situation we would have called on him in previous seasons, Shaqiri is the new go to guy.

Would it be in our interests to loan him and let him get some serious game time, so we get back the player of previous seasons?

Think he'll go in the summer.

He's a good player, the injuries have been costly though and he's gotten lost in the shuffle - with Shaqiri and Keita now in the mix and Oxlade-Chamberlain coming back, I think Lallana has been left behind and could do with a fresh start elsewhere.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3477 on: January 10, 2019, 03:16:53 PM »
Is Lallana stuck in a catch-22? He needs enough games to get match fit and thus less injury prone, but we have improved sufficiently that we cannot justify giving him that time to get back. I don't think he is shot, but I am questioning whether we can offer him the time he needs to get back to the level he needs to be at to justify him getting game time. For the tight situation we would have called on him in previous seasons, Shaqiri is the new go to guy.

Would it be in our interests to loan him and let him get some serious game time, so we get back the player of previous seasons?

Hopefully we can get him fit just in case we need him. I don’t think we will need him tho if everyone stays fit now after going out of the FA Cup.

I do think he’s finished as a top level player and he will he moved on in the summer.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3478 on: January 10, 2019, 06:24:10 PM »
Think he'll go in the summer.

He's a good player, the injuries have been costly though and he's gotten lost in the shuffle - with Shaqiri and Keita now in the mix and Oxlade-Chamberlain coming back, I think Lallana has been left behind and could do with a fresh start elsewhere.
The massive contract he signed a while back could be a bit of a stumbling block.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3479 on: January 10, 2019, 06:28:42 PM »
The massive contract he signed a while back could be a bit of a stumbling block.

He'll probably get a loan move if that proves to be the case.

Think his situation is very similar to Clyne, he just needs to go and play football somewhere given he's been out for so long.