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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3200 on: September 4, 2018, 04:17:36 PM »
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3201 on: September 4, 2018, 04:18:18 PM »
Season     league starts     League goals    Overall Apps

2014–15   27                  5                     41
2015–16   30                  4                     49
2016–17   31                  8                     35
2017–18   11                  0                     13

148 appearances in 4 years. Not been that badly impacted from the injuries, though I concede there's an argument he might be seeing the effects more now. We'll see how bad this one is.


It's pretty bad I'm afraid
He's missed 30% ish of his possible games due to injury ... and the ratio in the last 2 years is much worse.. and that's not including spells where he's been a sub or playing but coming back to full fitness
This is his 11th hip or groin injury!

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3202 on: September 4, 2018, 04:56:39 PM »
I think calls for quitting England are right.
When a player gets a bit older, a bit more injury prone too,  and given England's history with injuring players - and not just ours - knocking it on the head is the sensible option. Use the breaks to rest - it's done Milner the world of good.
If he carries on like this I think his current contract will be his last with us.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3203 on: September 4, 2018, 05:01:14 PM »


These days! He's been injured more often than not for the best part of 2 years.

See Wige's response above for a breakdown of his starts.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3204 on: September 4, 2018, 05:14:37 PM »
What a shame. And it's another groin injury which basically hampered him for the best part of over a year. Is it a recurring injury? He never seemed like he was even anywhere close the player from seasons prior everytime he came back last season, even with ample time to regain fitness after coming back from injury. Wildly off the pace and I suspect maybe that's why we've not seen him at all this season too and now this happens.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3205 on: September 4, 2018, 05:15:45 PM »
What a shame. And it's another groin injury which basically hampered him for the best part of over a year. Is it a recurring injury? He never seemed like he was even anywhere close the player from seasons prior everytime he came back last season, even with ample time to regain fitness after coming back from injury. Wildly off the pace and I suspect maybe that's why we've not seen him at all this season too and now this happens.

We don't know how serious it is at the moment, so it might only be a minor injury.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3206 on: September 4, 2018, 05:17:43 PM »
I hate pointless internationals at the best of times for the September ones should all be binned.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3207 on: September 4, 2018, 05:18:17 PM »
I hate pointless internationals at the best of times for the September ones should all be binned.

and we have another International break next month!

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3208 on: September 4, 2018, 05:19:02 PM »
Gutted for the lad but agree with the calls for his international retirement.

He's facing more club competition than ever currently, so needs to think about this.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3209 on: September 4, 2018, 05:19:09 PM »
and we have another International break next month!

Annoying as fuck,especially so after a summer tournament.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3210 on: September 4, 2018, 05:19:57 PM »
He’s having a tough time with injuries recently, probably should call time on his England career if he wants to prolong his club career.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3211 on: September 4, 2018, 05:20:12 PM »
I hate pointless internationals at the best of times for the September ones should all be binned.

It would be bad enough if he was injured during an actual match it would be bad enough but it's adding insult to injury picking it up in training.

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« Reply #3212 on: September 4, 2018, 05:21:41 PM »
Annoying as fuck,especially so after a summer tournament.

There's absolutely no point in having them. They're only having them for the sake of having them.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3213 on: September 4, 2018, 05:23:05 PM »
To be honest even if stays fully fit he'll hardly play all season.

All these players are ahead of him

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3214 on: September 4, 2018, 05:23:06 PM »
Feels like a lay off for Lallana in the Autumn for a while is common.

Hopefully its not too serious. The midfield could do with his ability.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3215 on: September 4, 2018, 05:28:47 PM »
Not sure how anyone can blame the international break and having to go play for his country.  It's not like this was sprung at the last minute and he was forced to go.  At some point in any athletes career age eventually catches up to you.  Hopefully that's not the case for Lallana though it sure is seemingly likely.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3216 on: September 4, 2018, 05:39:22 PM »
why is lallana called up for england in the 1st place ? He hasn't started any of our matches.....didn't even make the bench for a few.....
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3217 on: September 4, 2018, 05:46:30 PM »
Were they testing his resolve?
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3218 on: September 4, 2018, 05:51:20 PM »
Reading pages 12,13,14,15 of this thread is depressing because he was so good, our best player before he got injured.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3219 on: September 4, 2018, 05:57:45 PM »
They should bin these international breaks and just have a bigger summer break so they can actual properly train with their international teams. I cant see how 12 days of being together as a team 4 times a year helps any team come together. Do a six week break in January maybe!

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3220 on: September 4, 2018, 06:05:34 PM »
It's pretty bad I'm afraid
He's missed 30% ish of his possible games due to injury ... and the ratio in the last 2 years is much worse.. and that's not including spells where he's been a sub or playing but coming back to full fitness
This is his 11th hip or groin injury!


It's not great, but most of that 30% comes from the last season. Obviously you'd rather he'd missed nearly the entirety of a season 4 years ago, then been injury free, rather than missing almost an entire season at his age. We'll see how bad this one is, but still, I think we'll see more of him this season than is being made out by some. I'm expecting at least 20 appearances. Maybe 30+ if he is able to get anywhere near his 16/17 level.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3221 on: September 4, 2018, 06:08:42 PM »
To be honest even if stays fully fit he'll hardly play all season.

All these players are ahead of him

Mo, firminho, mane, sturidge,shaqiri,fabinho,keita,hendo,milner,gini.

Half of those players don't even play remotely the same position as Lallana.  ???
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3222 on: September 4, 2018, 06:15:41 PM »
Half of those players don't even play remotely the same position as Lallana.  ???

Yeah precisely, the list is more like:

Keita, Shaqiri, Gini, maybe Milner, maybe, maybe, maybe Hendo.

Lallana would be picked to start ahead of Curtis Jones, so not including him.

With a weekend/midweek fixture list until January, and probably/hopefully continuing like that from February, there are plenty and plenty of minutes available as an 8. Maybe even a 10 if we line up with different players.

I can't see how anyone is questioning his ability or capacity to contribute. Fitness is a different story.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3223 on: September 4, 2018, 06:16:23 PM »
Don't understand why he even got picked. He's hardly played any competitive football in 6 months.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3224 on: September 4, 2018, 06:16:44 PM »
Not sure how anyone can blame the international break and having to go play for his country.  It's not like this was sprung at the last minute and he was forced to go.  At some point in any athletes career age eventually catches up to you.  Hopefully that's not the case for Lallana though it sure is seemingly likely.

You don't find it irritating how a player can train with us for 11 weeks odd without issue and then be wiped out on day 1 of training with the national team?

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3225 on: September 4, 2018, 06:18:00 PM »
Total waste of time this lad now unfortunately and nowhere near good enough that we should put up with the constant injuries. Hopefully we move on in January.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3226 on: September 4, 2018, 06:18:47 PM »
You don't find it irritating how a player can train with us for 11 weeks odd without issue and then be wiped out on day 1 of training with the national team?

It happened when it happened, it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with him being with England.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3227 on: September 4, 2018, 06:23:13 PM »
Injured on the training ground, on his own, Cruyff turning himself into a hole.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3228 on: September 4, 2018, 08:42:35 PM »
I like Lallana and at one point thought he was our most creative midfielder. I just don't know if he has enough left in him to really challenge here though. I'd love him to get back to his playing form from 2015-16, but it just seems that his body can't handle it anymore. He never had Milner's fitness levels so those comparisons are redundant, but I feel that even with International retirement, he doesn't have more than a couple seasons at a high level left in him. It might be time for him to go to a team that is less explosive and less demanding on his body. This season will be telling whether he can be part of the future or whether its sunset for his liverpool career. Terrific player, but his body's let him down in recent times and with the injury break he's had at his age, it's not going to be easy getting back to match fitness even if he gets fit. Every time he's come on in the last year he's looked really rusty and it'll only get worse with every game he can't play. Hope he turns it around, but its a shame how it panned out.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3229 on: September 4, 2018, 09:04:21 PM »
Really rate him, and its a shame to see him injured already. Hopefully he won't miss much more than the Tottenham game. My concern is at this point, its been over 15 months since Lallana had an impressive game for us (largely down to injuries), but that is very worrying. He was so good before getting injured, too. Hopefully its a case like Hendo rather than Sturridge.

We're going into a heavy schedule of games, playing 7 times in 24 days against some very strong teams.

Hopefully Fabinho picks up the system. That way at least theres Fabinho, Hendo, Gini, Milner and Keita.
We can't go into that run of fixtures with 4 midfielders fit.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3230 on: September 4, 2018, 09:11:25 PM »
Really rate him, and its a shame to see him injured already. Hopefully he won't miss much more than the Tottenham game. My concern is at this point, its been over 15 months since Lallana had an impressive game for us (largely down to injuries), but that is very worrying. He was so good before getting injured, too. Hopefully its a case like Hendo rather than Sturridge.

We're going into a heavy schedule of games, playing 7 times in 24 days against some very strong teams.

Hopefully Fabinho picks up the system. That way at least theres Fabinho, Hendo, Gini, Milner and Keita.
We can't go into that run of fixtures with 4 midfielders fit.



We wouldn't. We have Shaqiri who can do a job, then Jones and Gruijic as well.

Not ideal options, but I think you could get away with rotating one in here and there, maybe a couple in the Southampton and LC games.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3231 on: September 4, 2018, 09:24:14 PM »
You don't find it irritating how a player can train with us for 11 weeks odd without issue and then be wiped out on day 1 of training with the national team?

Not really.  As odd as it may seem the national team does actually want players to play.  He's trained yet has shown no consistency in a year that he can actually play week in and week out.  Odds are this would have happened here at LFC anyway until proven differently.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3232 on: September 4, 2018, 09:30:28 PM »
Not looking good for him at all.
Lost a year to injuries, lost his place and now again kicking off the season with an injury.
Hope he's back from this soon and with a bit between his teeth - he'll need a lot of luck and grit going ahead.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3233 on: September 4, 2018, 09:56:27 PM »
We wouldn't. We have Shaqiri who can do a job, then Jones and Gruijic as well.

Not ideal options, but I think you could get away with rotating one in here and there, maybe a couple in the Southampton and LC games.

Mate we're not playing Jones against PSG away. Our starting midfield is on par with theirs, but fatigue and injuries and we're in trouble.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3234 on: September 4, 2018, 09:59:06 PM »
Mate we're not playing Jones against PSG away. Our starting midfield is on par with theirs, but fatigue and injuries and we're in trouble.

Grujic plays football in Germany for Hertha Berlin.

Yup, however you can use Shaqiri in front of the 2 in the middle if you like, you can make adjustments with the formation, we aren't without options.


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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3235 on: September 4, 2018, 10:30:21 PM »
Am I alone in forgetting, now and again, that he actually plays for us?
Poor lad with injuries.

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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3236 on: September 4, 2018, 10:32:12 PM »
Am I alone in forgetting, now and again, that he actually plays for us?
Poor lad with injuries.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3237 on: September 4, 2018, 10:32:53 PM »
Mate we're not playing Jones against PSG away. Our starting midfield is on par with theirs, but fatigue and injuries and we're in trouble.

Grujic plays football in Germany for Hertha Berlin.



The Gruijic point is an excellent one! Forgive my shite memory.

Wasn't suggesting we'd play Jones (or Shaqiri, or the aforementioned non-existent Gruijic) against PSG. Rather, in the Southampton and LC games, which gives the other first choice midfielders the vital rest they'll need during this run.

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« Reply #3238 on: September 4, 2018, 10:45:42 PM »
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Bit of a knee jerk reaction there. I’m being sympathetic- he’s too big a talent for LFC to miss him with regular injuries.
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Re: Adam Lallana
« Reply #3239 on: September 4, 2018, 10:46:48 PM »
He needs to quit internationals Im  afraid.