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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #120 on: April 26, 2016, 10:27:00 AM »
I was at the Young Scientists Exhibition in Dublin at the time.
There was an exhibition next to ours that used a little B/W TV. I watched it there. I was still at school, and am a teacher now.
It seems so long ago.
What must it feel like for those with loved ones lost?

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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #121 on: April 26, 2016, 10:27:45 AM »
Really struggling to hold back the tears watching this  :'(
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #122 on: April 26, 2016, 10:29:13 AM »
Really struggling to hold back the tears watching this  :'(

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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #123 on: April 26, 2016, 10:30:17 AM »
John Ashton there - pretty sure that is the man who saved my husband's life that day
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #124 on: April 26, 2016, 10:31:39 AM »
Thoughts with everyone affected , fingers crossed some measure of closure and justice is finally achieved today .

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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #125 on: April 26, 2016, 10:31:50 AM »
Such a strange feeling this morning. 27 years in waiting and here we are. I hope and pray that the families, friends and those affected by that day get the justice that they not only want but that they deserve after fighting every day for the past 27 years

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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #126 on: April 26, 2016, 10:32:14 AM »
I was just 17 years old from Dublin when the disaster happened. I sat watching the events unfold at home on the BBC stunned. I was due to head over the following Saturday to watch the Arsenal game at Anfield with my brother and his mates. Going against our Dads advise not to travel over we headed for Liverpool the following Friday anyway. As a young lad you thought of the escape, the match , the craic but this was different obviously and we felt we wanted to be there no matter what. We got to the ground the Saturday about 12 and qued for up to 3 hours to get inside the ground. Never will forget the sight of all the flowers and scarves on the pitch and around the ground. Felt surreal standing there on the pitch looking at this mass shrine. The players came out for a service about the time of the disaster the week previous and i can still feel the raw emotion that made me think what if it was my brother Dad or sister. Later that year my Dad was killed in a car crash and the grieve i went through made me realise exactly what was lost that day too. So now a generation later, married 3 kids, finally justice can be made today and somehow the families can move on with peace in the minds

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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #127 on: April 26, 2016, 10:33:50 AM »
John Ashton there - pretty sure that is the man who saved my husband's life that day
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #128 on: April 26, 2016, 10:35:40 AM »
Lost for words.

He is a doctor who was in the stands.  He went to the back of the Leppings Lane (so I have been told) and went through the victims lying there - he must have found a pulse because my husband had been left for dead there by the two lads who pulled him out.

That is what I believe anyway - will never know for certain
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #129 on: April 26, 2016, 10:36:06 AM »
John Ashton there - pretty sure that is the man who saved my husband's life that day

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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #130 on: April 26, 2016, 10:38:44 AM »
He is a doctor who was in the stands.  He went to the back of the Leppings Lane (so I have been told) and went through the victims lying there - he must have found a pulse because my husband had been left for dead there by the two lads who pulled him out.

That is what I believe anyway - will never know for certain
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« Reply #131 on: April 26, 2016, 10:44:41 AM »
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #133 on: April 26, 2016, 10:47:28 AM »
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #135 on: April 26, 2016, 10:51:50 AM »
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« Reply #136 on: April 26, 2016, 10:53:34 AM »
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #137 on: April 26, 2016, 11:00:12 AM »
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« Reply #139 on: April 26, 2016, 11:01:44 AM »
I'm struggling here sat in work, I don't know exactly what it is I'm feeling. I just hope and pray the families of everyone affected, directly and indirectly, get the justice we know they deserve. JFT96.

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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #140 on: April 26, 2016, 11:03:24 AM »
Is there a list of all the questions the jury have to answer?
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #142 on: April 26, 2016, 11:06:13 AM »
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-disaster-inquests-verdicts-delivered-11240268

Under the key points here.
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Question one: Do you agree with the following statement: On April 15 1989, 96 people died in the disaster as a result of crushing in the central pens of the Leppings Lane terrace, following the admission of a large number of supporters to the stadium through the exit gates.

Question two: Was there any error or omission in police planning and preparation for the semi-final on April 15, 1989, which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match?

Question three: Was there any error or omission in policing on the day of the match which caused or contributed to a dangerous situation developing at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?

Question four: Was there any error or omission by commanding officers which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

Question five: When the order was given to open the exit gates at the Leppings Lane end of the stadium, was there any error or omission by the commanding officers in the control box which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

Question six: Are you satisfied, so that you are sure, that those who died in the disaster were unlawfully killed?

Question seven: Was there any behaviour on the part of the football supporters which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?

Question eight: Were there any features of the design, construction and layout of the stadium which you consider were dangerous or defective and which caused or contributed to the disaster?

Question nine: Was there any error or omission in the safety certification and oversight of Hillsborough Stadium that caused or contributed to the disaster?

Question ten: Was there any error or omission by Sheffield Wednesday and its staff in the management of the stadium and/or preparation for the semi-final match on April 15, 1989, which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match?

Question eleven: Was there any error or omission by Sheffield Wednesday and its staff on April 15, 1989, which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed at the Leppings Lane turnstiles and in the west terrace?

Question twelve: Should Eastwood and Partners (structural engineers) have done more to detect and advise on any unsafe or unsatisfactory features of Hillsborough Stadium which caused or contributed to the disaster?

Question thirteen: After the crush in the west terrace had begun to develop, was there any error or omission by the police which caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?

Question fourteen: After the crush in the west terrace had begun to develop, was there any error or omission by the ambulance service (SYMAS) which caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #143 on: April 26, 2016, 11:06:15 AM »
Is there a list of all the questions the jury have to answer?

1. Basic facts of the disaster

Do you agree with the following statement which is intended to summarise the basic facts of the disaster: “On April 15, 1989, 96 people died in the disaster at Hillsborough Stadium as a result of crushing in the central pens of the Leppings Lane terrace, following the admission of a large number of supporters to the stadium through exit gates.”

2. Police planning

Was there any error or omission in police planning and preparation for the semi-final match on April 15, 1989, which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match?

If your answer to the question above is “no”, please answer the following question: Was there any error or omission in police planning and preparation for the semi-final match which may have caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match?

3. Policing of the match and the situation at the turnstiles

Was there any error or omission in policing on the day of the match which caused or contributed to a dangerous situation developing at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: Was there any error or omission in policing on the day of the match which may have caused or contributed to a dangerous situation developing at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?

4. Policing of the match and the crush on the terrace

Was there any error or omission by commanding officers which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: Was there any error or omission by commanding officers which may have caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

5. The opening of the gates

When the order was given to open the exit gates at the Leppings Lane end of the stadium, was there any error or omission by the commanding officers in the control box which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: When the order was given to open the exit gates at the Leppings Lane end of the stadium, was there any error or omission by the commanding officers in the control box which may have caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

6. Determination of unlawful killing issue

Are you satisfied, so that you are sure, that those who died in the disaster were unlawfully killed?

7. Behaviour of the supporters

Was there any behaviour on the part of football supporters which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: Was there any behaviour on the part of football supporters which may have caused or contributed to the dangerous situation at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?

If your answer to either of the questions above is “yes”, please answer the following: Was that behaviour unusual or unforeseeable?
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8. Defects in Hillsborough Stadium

Were there any features of the design, construction and layout of the stadium which you consider were dangerous or defective and which caused or contributed to the disaster?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: Were there any features of the design, construction and layout of the stadium which you consider were dangerous or defective and which may have caused or contributed to the disaster?

9. Licensing and oversight of Hillsborough Stadium

Was there any error or omission in the safety certification and oversight of Hillsborough Stadium that caused or contributed to the disaster?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: Was there any error or omission in the safety certification and oversight of Hillsborough Stadium that may have caused or contributed to the disaster?

10. Conduct of Sheffield Wednesday FC before the day of the match

Was there any error or omission by Sheffield Wednesday FC (and its staff) in the management of the stadium and/or preparation for the match which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: Was there any error or omission by Sheffield Wednesday FC (and its staff) in the management of the stadium and/or preparation for the match which may have caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match?

11. Conduct of Sheffield Wednesday FC on the day of the match

Was there any error or omission by Sheffield Wednesday FC (and its staff) on April 15, 1989, which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed at the Leppings Lane turnstiles and in the west terrace?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: Was there any error or omission by Sheffield Wednesday FC (and its staff) on April 15, 1989, which may have caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed at the Leppings Lane turnstiles and in the west terrace?

12. Conduct of Eastwood & Partners

Should Eastwood & Partners have done more to detect and advise on any unsafe or unsatisfactory features of Hillsborough Stadium which caused or contributed to the disaster?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: Should Eastwood & Partners have done more to detect and advise on any unsafe or unsatisfactory features of Hillsborough Stadium which may have caused or contributed to the disaster?

13. Emergency response and the role of the South Yorkshire Police

After the crush in the west terrace had begun to develop, was there any error or omission by the police which caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: After the crush in the west terrace had begun to develop, was there any error or omission by the police which may have caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?

14. Emergency response and the role of the South Yorkshire Metropolitan Ambulance Service

After the crush in the west terrace had begun to develop, was there any error or omission by the ambulance service which caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?

If your answer is “no”, please answer the following: After the crush in the west terrace had begun to develop, was there any error or omission by the ambulance service which may have caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #145 on: April 26, 2016, 11:08:33 AM »
Is the LFC.tv link paused for everyone else?  I assume they do not have a feed from the court room?

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« Reply #146 on: April 26, 2016, 11:10:19 AM »
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« Reply #147 on: April 26, 2016, 11:10:30 AM »
Is the LFC.tv link paused for everyone else?  I assume they do not have a feed from the court room?

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« Reply #148 on: April 26, 2016, 11:11:39 AM »
Is the LFC.tv link paused for everyone else?  I assume they do not have a feed from the court room?

Yes no phones allowed in the court.

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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #149 on: April 26, 2016, 11:11:58 AM »
QUESTION 3

Was there any error or omission in policing on the day of the match which caused or contributed to a dangerous situation developing at the Leppings Lane turnstiles? Yes or no.

Yes.

QUESTION 2


Was there any error or omission in police planning or preparation for the semi-final match on 15 April 1989 which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match? Yes or no

Yes


QUESTION 1

Do you agree with the following statement which is intended to summarise the basic facts of the Disaster:

“Ninety-six people died as a result of the Disaster at Hillsborough Stadium on 15 April 1989 due to crushing in the central pens of the Leppings Lane terrace, following the admission of a large number of supporters to the Stadium through exit gates.”

Yes.

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« Reply #150 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:10 AM »
QUESTION 5: The opening of the gates

When the order was given to open the exit gates at the Leppings Lane end of the stadium, was there any error or omission by the commanding officers in the control box which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace? Yes or no.

Yes.


QUESTION 4: Policing of the match and the crush on the terrace

Was there any error or omission by commanding officers which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace? Yes or no.

Yes


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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #151 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:15 AM »
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #152 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:16 AM »
Yes on question 6, unlawful killing.

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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #153 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:16 AM »
Yes on question six.
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #154 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:22 AM »
Yes to Unlawfully Killed.

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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #155 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:22 AM »
Question 6 - were the 96 were unlawfully killed? Yes.
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #156 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:29 AM »
All six questions answered yes so far including unlawfully killed.
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« Reply #157 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:33 AM »
Unlawfully killed! Thank you.
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Re: Hillsborough - Inquest Verdicts - Tuesday 26th April
« Reply #158 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:37 AM »
question 6 - yes, thats the key one!!! Justice

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« Reply #159 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:43 AM »
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