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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10200 on: November 24, 2019, 07:49:59 AM »
Hope that one pushes Bobby on a bit, he’s looked a bit out of sorts lately. Pleased to see him back among the goals.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10201 on: November 24, 2019, 06:45:13 PM »
Hope that one pushes Bobby on a bit, he’s looked a bit out of sorts lately. Pleased to see him back among the goals.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10202 on: November 24, 2019, 08:15:02 PM »
Thought he was one of the best players on the pitch along with Mane and Van Dijk.
Definitely was in the second half.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10203 on: November 24, 2019, 09:46:50 PM »
Hope that one pushes Bobby on a bit, he’s looked a bit out of sorts lately. Pleased to see him back among the goals.

Goals aside he has been magic this year.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10204 on: December 4, 2019, 10:22:36 PM »
The elastico for the 5th. Fucking hell Bobby, those defenders have families.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10205 on: December 4, 2019, 10:23:44 PM »
He killed that guy on the 5th. Killed him dead.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10206 on: December 4, 2019, 10:24:13 PM »
RACIST ELASTICO

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10207 on: December 4, 2019, 10:24:26 PM »
You just have to laugh

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10208 on: December 4, 2019, 10:25:25 PM »
Filth for the fifth
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10209 on: December 4, 2019, 10:32:34 PM »
The fact that it was that coward Holgate made it sweeter.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10210 on: December 4, 2019, 11:31:52 PM »
Would have been extra sweet for Firmino given the needless ordeal he had to go through

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10211 on: December 4, 2019, 11:32:55 PM »
That bit for Gini's goal was just plain outrageous, but something I can watch over and over again.  ;D
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10212 on: December 4, 2019, 11:34:46 PM »
No look assist.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10213 on: December 4, 2019, 11:39:58 PM »
Loved him stopping when it went in going "That was all me though, yeah? See that?"
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10214 on: December 5, 2019, 12:55:48 AM »
Damn!  Comes in for a few minutes and bang!  An assist!
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10215 on: December 5, 2019, 01:17:44 AM »
Hes got peripheral vision this bug eyed fuck  ;D

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10216 on: December 6, 2019, 08:33:30 AM »
I didn’t notice it at the time, but he made his regular no-look trick for the 5th goal, for the assist this time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AnfieldAgenda/status/1202704284342767616

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10217 on: December 6, 2019, 08:44:33 AM »
I didn’t notice it at the time, but he made his regular no-look trick for the 5th goal, for the assist this time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AnfieldAgenda/status/1202704284342767616

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10218 on: December 6, 2019, 11:40:39 AM »
I didn't see bobby's assist. I can't be blamed, neither did Bobby.


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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10219 on: December 10, 2019, 08:25:44 PM »
Great in the second half when one of their lads was bundling his way through the box about to shoot and Bobby arrives to nick the ball off his toe.  ;D

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10220 on: December 10, 2019, 08:28:10 PM »
Today performance really sums up Firmino. Subtle, but one of the best players on the pitch.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10221 on: December 10, 2019, 11:14:00 PM »
Think he was off the boil a bit...some heavy touches, etc

Being so important to our play, maybe with our new found rotation, need to reduce his workload slightly to keep him fresh and sharp.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10222 on: December 10, 2019, 11:40:48 PM »
For me he's either carrying an injury or two years of non-stop football have caught up with him a little. Still does a good job for the team though even if he's not quite firing on all cylinders.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10223 on: December 11, 2019, 12:35:59 AM »
For me he's either carrying an injury or two years of non-stop football have caught up with him a little. Still does a good job for the team though even if he's not quite firing on all cylinders.

There is something slightly off (finishing wise) I think as well. However, apart from a couple of bad touches he was superb tonight, played as a midfielder, an attacking midfielder, a number ten and a number nine. Defended allover the park. He's some player is Bobby.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10224 on: December 11, 2019, 01:28:48 AM »
He's leading this side with the most amount of assists [8].  He isn't going to score many in his role, and he doesn't have to, but he still knows when to score important goals.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10225 on: December 11, 2019, 08:55:21 AM »
Think he was off the boil a bit...some heavy touches, etc
In the first half yes, but he was excellent in the second. Kept hold of the ball, played almost like Alonso at times but higher up the pitch, making sure we controlled the tempo of the game. Great defensive work as well, as per usual.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10226 on: December 11, 2019, 08:58:16 AM »
Pretty sure he'll be rested for Saturday with Origi back in.

He's dropped quite a bit deeper recently.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10227 on: December 11, 2019, 09:20:13 AM »
He's leading this side with the most amount of assists [8].  He isn't going to score many in his role, and he doesn't have to, but he still knows when to score important goals.

He's scored two of his ten big chances this season. No one expects him to be as prolific as Salah or Mané, but I think the lack of improvement in that area of his game over the years is a little disappointing.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10228 on: December 11, 2019, 09:22:00 AM »
Bobby loves the sunshine. Push him out into the sun in Qatar and he'll be recharged again.


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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10229 on: December 11, 2019, 09:52:51 AM »
He's scored two of his ten big chances this season. No one expects him to be as prolific as Salah or Mané, but I think the lack of improvement in that area of his game over the years is a little disappointing.

I do hear that, and I agree that he should be scoring more, but this is not really borne out by the results we have achieved this season so far. So when I say he should be scoring more, I am more thinking his own personal ledger (4 in 24) cos the team is doing just fine with his current goal involvements. Cant think of anyone else that would be so in tandem with our two wing kings

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10230 on: December 11, 2019, 09:59:44 AM »
He's scored two of his ten big chances this season. No one expects him to be as prolific as Salah or Mané, but I think the lack of improvement in that area of his game over the years is a little disappointing.

I'm not sure finishing ever really 'improves', that ice cold killer instinct of a pure finisher is usually there at 20 years of age in my opinion. A Torres, Fowler, Van Nistelrooy, even an Owen type it's just there from the off in my opinion, it almost can't be taught.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10231 on: December 11, 2019, 10:13:34 AM »
I'm not sure finishing ever really 'improves', that ice cold killer instinct of a pure finisher is usually there at 20 years of age in my opinion. A Torres, Fowler, Van Nistelrooy, even an Owen type it's just there from the off in my opinion, it almost can't be taught.

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I'm not sure I agree with that. Look at someone like Kane. Guy was a donkey at some shite clubs and then with patience and nurturing turned into a monster. Christiano Ronaldo as well. I'm sure there are other examples

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10232 on: December 11, 2019, 10:14:10 AM »
I'm not sure finishing ever really 'improves', that ice cold killer instinct of a pure finisher is usually there at 20 years of age in my opinion. A Torres, Fowler, Van Nistelrooy, even an Owen type it's just there from the off in my opinion, it almost can't be taught.

It is with some players, but others improve as they mature and train on it. I think we have seen Mané improve in front of goal throughout his time with us (although I don't think his conversion rate is as high as last season, but that's probably variance and the old 'regression to the mean').

For me it's little details which can make a big difference. His one-on-one at Palace when we were winning 1-0 for example: he goes with the outside of his foot, which gives Guaita a chance, whereas if he more conventionally used his instep he could have curled it around him.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10233 on: December 11, 2019, 10:18:38 AM »
I'm not sure I agree with that. Look at someone like Kane. Guy was a donkey at some shite clubs and then with patience and nurturing turned into a monster. Christiano Ronaldo as well. I'm sure there are other examples

Ronaldo's a very good example that definitely contradicts that thought. Not as sure about Kane though, and though it's 2 sides of the same coin I'd say Kane's amazing ability tends more towards being right place right time [a fine art in itself] rather than pure 'finishing'. A relative of mine was working at Spurs for a while when Kane was coming through and said his work rate/willingness to improve was crazy though, to the point of being a bit of a teachers pet....not a shock is it!

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10234 on: December 11, 2019, 02:34:23 PM »
Ronaldo's a very good example that definitely contradicts that thought. Not as sure about Kane though, and though it's 2 sides of the same coin I'd say Kane's amazing ability tends more towards being right place right time [a fine art in itself] rather than pure 'finishing'. A relative of mine was working at Spurs for a while when Kane was coming through and said his work rate/willingness to improve was crazy though, to the point of being a bit of a teachers pet....not a shock is it!

Being in the right place at the right time is actually the most important thing, I'm sure Bobby would score more if he had the luxury to always be at the end of chances, instead his busy playing number 9, number 10, CM and DM all in one game, to our benefit as well, to compare him to someone like Bergkamp after 1999/2000 his goal scoring completely fell off the cliff, didn't matter though cause he did everything so well, and had Henry Pires and Ljunberg to supplement him.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10235 on: December 11, 2019, 02:36:08 PM »
Being in the right place at the right time is actually the most important thing, I'm sure Bobby would score more if he had the luxury to always be at the end of chances, instead his busy playing number 9, number 10, CM and DM all in one game, to our benefit as well, to compare him to someone like Bergkamp after 1999/2000 his goal scoring completely fell off the cliff, didn't matter though cause he did everything so well, and had Henry Pires and Ljunberg to supplement him.

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10236 on: December 11, 2019, 02:42:58 PM »
Bobby loves the sunshine. Push him out into the sun in Qatar and he'll be recharged again.

Do not disagree. It may just do the trick. Bobby is not inconsistent but you know that he will hit a few patches in a season when he is unplayable. He will be fine
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10237 on: December 11, 2019, 02:49:55 PM »
Being in the right place at the right time is actually the most important thing, I'm sure Bobby would score more if he had the luxury to always be at the end of chances, instead his busy playing number 9, number 10, CM and DM all in one game, to our benefit as well, to compare him to someone like Bergkamp after 1999/2000 his goal scoring completely fell off the cliff, didn't matter though cause he did everything so well, and had Henry Pires and Ljunberg to supplement him.

Chances are still falling Firmino's way though; like I said, he's missed 8/10 of his 'big chances' this season. (How that is measured, exactly, I don't know. I'm guessing a chance above a certain xG? Maybe 0.2?)

The Bergkamp comparison is a good one because Firmino reminds me of him in many ways, but Bergkamp's goalscoring fell off because he got old, too. He was 30/31 by 1999/00. Firmino has only just turned 28.

His finishing always seems better when it's instinct and he has to act quickly, which suggests there's work which could be done to improve his one-on-one situations when he has time.
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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10238 on: December 14, 2019, 02:48:42 PM »
His touches are a bit off, but dont think he was to bad against Salzburg. Hopefully he will benefit from the warm climate coming up

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Re: Roberto Firmino
« Reply #10239 on: December 14, 2019, 02:50:56 PM »
Yeah he's not been on it lately, still puts a shift in but feels like he could maybe do with a game or two off.  With Minamino coming in that'll hopefully help.
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