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« Reply #58440 on: October 15, 2019, 01:43:40 AM »
No, it really is! The machinery of the Yankee government is vast and complex and there will be a little give and take here and there but the overall trend top brass is taking is clear. Of course, dept of state tends to work according to their own rules and their ideology may well win the power struggle against trumps to the detriment of the world in general.

Except the top brass of the military are almost all diametrically opposed to Trumps plans and understand the inevitable fallout of his ideas, many of them have said so on a regular basis. Of course Trump just fires them and gets someone who will do his bidding.

His actions in Syria have another Taliban written all over them. Can't wait to see how the US reflects on the Kurdish 'terrorists' who are trying to kill American soldiers in a few years.

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« Reply #58441 on: October 15, 2019, 06:04:26 AM »
Whistle-blower's going to be Bolton, isn't it?

Only half joking.

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The effort to pressure Ukraine for political help provoked a heated confrontation inside the White House last summer that so alarmed John R. Bolton, then the national security adviser, that he told an aide to alert White House lawyers, House investigators were told on Monday.

Mr. Bolton got into a tense exchange on July 10 with Gordon D. Sondland, the Trump donor turned ambassador to the European Union, who was working with Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, to press Ukraine to investigate Democrats, according to three people who heard the testimony.

The aide, Fiona Hill, testified that Mr. Bolton told her to notify the chief lawyer for the National Security Council about a rogue effort by Mr. Sondland, Mr. Giuliani and Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, according to the people familiar the testimony.

“I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up,” Mr. Bolton, a Yale-trained lawyer, told Ms. Hill to tell White House lawyers, according to two people at the deposition. (Another person in the room initially said Mr. Bolton referred to Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Mulvaney, but two others said he cited Mr. Sondland.)

It was not the first time Mr. Bolton expressed grave concerns to Ms. Hill about the campaign being run by Mr. Giuliani. “Giuliani’s a hand grenade who’s going to blow everybody up,” Ms. Hill quoted Mr. Bolton as saying during an earlier conversation.

The testimony revealed in a powerful way just how divisive Mr. Giuliani’s efforts to extract damaging information about Democrats from Ukraine on President Trump’s behalf were within the White House. Ms. Hill, the senior director for Russian and Eurasian affairs, testified that Mr. Giuliani and his allies circumvented the usual national security process to run their own rump foreign policy, leaving the president’s official advisers aware of the rogue operation yet powerless to stop it.

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I suppose if you're in a part of the US government without a protected procedure for whistleblowing then, if you were so minded, it would make sense to do it via another which most certainly does. I'm certainly impressed by the neocon commitment to regime change.
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« Reply #58442 on: October 15, 2019, 06:06:58 AM »
Looks like the testimony Monday revealed that Mulvaney was involved with Giullani and that Bolton was opposed to it to an extent that he consulted lawyers about it.


This thing could get bigger and bigger...
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« Reply #58443 on: October 15, 2019, 06:19:17 AM »
That is a comically poor analysis of the larger picture, Trumps policy has been consistent from an international perspective. He said America's wars were over and he was going to withdraw America from the role it plays as global policeman and every step he's taken is one step closer to achieving that goal.


Is that why he is sending thousands of troops to Saudi Arabia? How is that friggin consistent?



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« Reply #58444 on: October 15, 2019, 09:01:26 AM »
It's a crazy world when Trump is pulling shit that alarms John Fucking Bolton. 
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« Reply #58445 on: October 15, 2019, 10:02:37 AM »
There's a scene in Tupac's Resurrection when he explains what it's like to have 15000 hard core thugs willing to do your bidding and egging you on.  How empowering and encompassing it becomes and how you strive to maintain that adulation.

That's was 25 years ago.  Before the internet.
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« Reply #58446 on: October 15, 2019, 10:15:46 AM »
No, it really is! The machinery of the Yankee government is vast and complex and there will be a little give and take here and there but the overall trend top brass is taking is clear. Of course, dept of state tends to work according to their own rules and their ideology may well win the power struggle against trumps to the detriment of the world in general.

Right, so on the one hand you have Trump sending thousands more troops to Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Poland, and on the other hand he is withdrawing about 100 troops from Syria - and you say that the 'overall trend' is clear? Yes it is, he is deploying more troops abroad, not bringing them home. And America currently has more troops in the Middle East than they did in 2016.

Like almost everything else he said, this was just a campaign promise with very little substance behind it. If he was really committed to this, he would have been working towards a withdrawal from northern Syria by working it out with his advisors, discussing it with the Kurds and putting plans in place to leave at the right time, in a way which didn't expose the Kurds to genocide and didn't allow hundreds of ISIS fighters to escape. He could've been developing that plan for the last two years. Instead he didn't do any of that and decided to pull out at short notice without any planning, just because Erdogan asked him to. It was a decision designed to protect Trump's business interests and to keep his end of the deals he'd been making with Russia, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Also it serves as a good distraction from his own impeachment.

You have a very simplistic view that American involvement abroad can only ever be 'to the detriment of the world in general'. But in this case, their withdrawal will allow ISIS to regroup and become a threat again. And that is most certainly 'to the detriment of the world', and of the Syrian people. Plus, you know, the genocide that the Kurds are suffering. The only people who benefit from this are Erdogan, Putin and Assad.
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« Reply #58447 on: October 15, 2019, 10:40:40 AM »
It's a crazy world when Trump is pulling shit that alarms John Fucking Bolton. 

Bolton is just itching at the opportunity at carrying out regime change somewhere.
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« Reply #58448 on: October 15, 2019, 12:08:48 PM »
Bolton is just itching at the opportunity at carrying out regime change somewhere.

Well maybe he can be a patriot and start with the Whitehouse then.

Been watching MSNBC and the stories of a thousand American troops being boxed into northern Syria being shelled by Turkish troops do not sound good at all.
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« Reply #58449 on: October 15, 2019, 12:10:17 PM »
Whatever happened to Jared Kushner's Middle East peace plan?

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« Reply #58450 on: October 15, 2019, 12:13:37 PM »
It's a crazy world when Trump is pulling shit that alarms John Fucking Bolton. 

He was too crazy for Bolton.


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« Reply #58451 on: October 15, 2019, 12:17:55 PM »
Whatever happened to Jared Kushner's Middle East peace plan?
This is it. Literally.

Step 1: Be nice to Erdogan/MBS
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Profit!
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« Reply #58452 on: October 15, 2019, 12:34:41 PM »
This is it. Literally.

Step 1: Be nice to Erdogan/MBS
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Profit!

Sounds like a Ferengi (for you Star Trek fans) kind of foreign policy.

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« Reply #58453 on: October 15, 2019, 04:49:45 PM »
@realDonaldTrump
Just out: MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS AT THE HIGHEST POINT EVER, EVER, EVER! How about saying it this way, IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY! Also, MORE PEOPLE WORKING TODAY IN THE USA THAN AT ANY TIME IN HISTORY! Tough numbers for the Radical Left Democrats to beat! Impeach the Pres.



Is this like one of those sci-fi movies where the guy's body has been overtaken by an evil alien, but the host is still trying to communicate with the outside world?  Like when Picard was taken over by the Borg in ST: TNG?
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« Reply #58454 on: October 15, 2019, 05:28:00 PM »
^^^  No.  He's just an idiot trying to use sarcasm.

More career civil servants are testifying now - the kind of people who can't afford the lawyers that still couldn't keep Paul Manafort out of jail and wont do time for the likes of Trump, despite all his threats at them to keep quiet.  Too many videos and analysis to keep up with really, it's crazy.
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« Reply #58455 on: October 15, 2019, 06:02:27 PM »
@realDonaldTrump
Just out: MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS AT THE HIGHEST POINT EVER, EVER, EVER! How about saying it this way, IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY! Also, MORE PEOPLE WORKING TODAY IN THE USA THAN AT ANY TIME IN HISTORY! Tough numbers for the Radical Left Democrats to beat! Impeach the Pres.



Is this like one of those sci-fi movies where the guy's body has been overtaken by an evil alien, but the host is still trying to communicate with the outside world?  Like when Picard was taken over by the Borg in ST: TNG?

So it was a bubble economy under Obama. Now it's the best ever? Low unemploymemt, yet no inflation and a desperate need to cut interest rates...
If everyone has a job then there will be a shortage of workers. In order to hire new people you will need to offer a better salary to attract the skills you need. That should make prices go up. We should have inflation and that should cause interest rates to go up. That's not the case. Instead we have a debt problem. The low interest rates makes it cheap to borrow money. It caused a problem ten years ago and now Trump wants to ’improve’ things by doing exactly what he thought was a mistake when Obama was in the Oval Office. That's how good the economy is.

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« Reply #58456 on: October 15, 2019, 06:17:21 PM »
FOX News
Trump’s attempt to hire Trey Gowdy for legal team unravels over lobbying rules
 Mike Emanuel
3 hrs ago


President Trump’s attempt to hire former South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy for his legal team as he battles House Democrats over impeachment has unraveled over concerns about lobbying rules restricting his activities, Fox News has confirmed.

Last week, it was announced that Gowdy would be joining the president’s legal team. But a source familiar with the situation told Fox News there was concern about a statute that says former lawmakers cannot communicate with or appear before their former colleagues for a year after leaving Congress.

Gowdy retired from Congress earlier this year, meaning his one-year restriction would be up in January 2020.

As part of his role with Trump’s legal team, Gowdy was expected to appear on television news programs — and there were concerns about whether that could be considered communicating with former colleagues in violation of the statute. A source said the president’s legal team needed Gowdy on television making the case now, and not in several months.

On Sept. 25, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi initiated an impeachment inquiry against President Trump, following a whistleblower complaint over his dealings with Ukraine. Select Congressional committees returned to the Capitol to continue impeachment proceedings throughout the week as Congress remains on recess.

The US President's former top Russia adviser, Fiona Hill (C) leaves after a deposition for the House Intelligence committee regarding an impeachment inquiry Oct. 14 in Washington, DC. Hill, who was subpoenaed by the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees for closed door depositions, is among the handful of current and former Trump administration members being interviewed this week by House panels.
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Violations of these post-Congress restrictions, intended to prevent lawmakers from lobbying immediately after leaving Congress, are considered a “felony.”

Just last week, Trump attorney Jay Sekulow had welcomed Gowdy to the team. “I am pleased to announce that former Congressman Trey Gowdy is joining our team as counsel to the president,” he said.

Sekulow added: “I have known Trey for years and worked with him when he served in Congress. His legal skills and his advocacy will serve the president well. Trey’s command of the law is well known and his service on Capitol Hill will be a great asset as a member of our team.”

But Gowdy, who formerly chaired the House Oversight and Reform Committee, is not expected to join the team after all, The New York Times reported.

Gowdy had been a Fox News contributor. A company spokesperson said Gowdy was terminated last week and is no longer serving in that capacity.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-attempt-to-hire-trey-gowdy-for-legal-team-unravels-over-lobbying-rules/ar-AAIKZON?ocid=spartandhp

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« Reply #58457 on: October 15, 2019, 06:22:59 PM »
So it was a bubble economy under Obama. Now it's the best ever? Low unemploymemt, yet no inflation and a desperate need to cut interest rates...
If everyone has a job then there will be a shortage of workers. In order to hire new people you will need to offer a better salary to attract the skills you need. That should make prices go up. We should have inflation and that should cause interest rates to go up. That's not the case. Instead we have a debt problem. The low interest rates makes it cheap to borrow money. It caused a problem ten years ago and now Trump wants to ’improve’ things by doing exactly what he thought was a mistake when Obama was in the Oval Office. That's how good the economy is.

Itll be the next Presidents problem and fault by then

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« Reply #58458 on: October 15, 2019, 06:24:49 PM »
FOX News
Giuliani ‘disappointed’ in Bolton amid claim he told aide to alert lawyer to Ukraine probe
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President Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani on Tuesday said he was “disappointed” in former National Security Adviser John Bolton, after reports emerged that he had called Giuliani a “hand grenade” over his Ukraine investigations — and told a top aide to alert a lawyer in the National Security Council.

“I am disappointed in John,” Giuliani said in a statement to Fox News. “I’m not sure he realizes I received all this evidence as part of my representation of the president. It was all part of the evidence, and suppression of evidence, involving Ukrainian collusion and the origin of some of the false information against the president.”

Giuliani’s comments come after it emerged that Fiona Hill, a former senior director to Russian and Eurasian affairs, told lawmakers Monday that a meeting between Ukrainian and U.S. officials left her and Bolton so concerned that he told her to alert John Eisenberg, a lawyer at the NSC.

According to the New York Times, Hill said Bolton told her to notify Eisenberg about the effort by Giuliani, acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and E.U. Ambassador Gordon Sondland to press Ukraine to investigate Democrats.

“I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up,” Bolton allegedly told Hill, according to the Times.

Hill said Bolton had previously called Giuliani a “hand grenade who’s going to blow everyone up.”

On Sept. 25, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi initiated an impeachment inquiry against President Trump, following a whistleblower complaint over his dealings with Ukraine. Select Congressional committees returned to the Capitol to continue impeachment proceedings throughout the week as Congress remains on recess.

The US President's former top Russia adviser, Fiona Hill (C) leaves after a deposition for the House Intelligence committee regarding an impeachment inquiry Oct. 14 in Washington, DC. Hill, who was subpoenaed by the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees for closed door depositions, is among the handful of current and former Trump administration members being interviewed this week by House panels.

The dramatic testimony gave an insight into how divisive Giuliani and others’ efforts to investigate activity, particularly that of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter in Ukraine, was inside the White House.

House Democrats launched an impeachment inquiry last month after the emergence of a whistleblower complaint that alerted officials to a July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. In that call, of which the transcript was later released by the White House, Trump urges Zelensky to “look into” Biden’s family’s conduct and allegations of Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election.

Democrats allege that Trump withheld U.S. military aid to the country to force the Ukrainians into investigating his political opponent — specifically Biden’s role in the firing of a top prosecutor who had been investigating a Ukrainian gas company, where Hunter Biden sat on the board.

Trump has denied any quid pro quo, and claimed instead that he was only looking to crack down on corruption. He has instead attempted to direct attention to Hunter Biden’s activities in both Ukraine and China.

As the impeachment inquiry has heated up, it has also brought more scrutiny to Giuliani’s role in spearheading a separate investigation into Ukraine. The New York Times reported Friday that prosecutors in Manhattan are investigating whether the former New York City mayor broke lobbying laws in his own dealings with Ukraine. On Monday, Reuters first reported that Giuliani's firm had been paid $500,000 in 2018 by one of the two Ukrainian-American businessmen arrested last week on campaign finance charges.

"Although this has already been publicly discussed in the past, Giuliani Partners was retained by Fraud Guarantee in or about August, 2018," he said in a statement to Fox News. "We were referred by a prominent attorney as our firm is particularly suited for this engagement because of its 17 years of experience in this area of work and our past experience with this type of business."

He said that most of the work was completed in 2018, and payment was received as a retainer paid in two installments, "but there is a continuing obligation to advise with regard to follow-up questions." He also said that the source of the payments was domestic.

Trump gave his backing to Giuliani on Saturday, tweeting that he was a “great guy and wonderful lawyer.”

“So now they are after the legendary 'crime buster' and greatest Mayor in the history of NYC, Rudy Giuliani. He may seem a little rough around the edges sometimes, but he is also a great guy and wonderful lawyer,” he tweeted. “Such a one sided Witch Hunt going on in USA. Deep State. Shameful!”

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« Reply #58459 on: October 15, 2019, 06:30:43 PM »
Sounds like Gowdy is/was being lined up to replace Giuliani on TV. Suggests that Trump or someone close to him guessed what was coming and wanted to get someone in for when Rudy ended up under the bus.

But then when the likes of John Bolton is calling Giuliani a hand grenade you know this are tipping off the vertical.
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« Reply #58460 on: October 15, 2019, 06:49:18 PM »
So it was a bubble economy under Obama. Now it's the best ever? Low unemploymemt, yet no inflation and a desperate need to cut interest rates...
If everyone has a job then there will be a shortage of workers. In order to hire new people you will need to offer a better salary to attract the skills you need. That should make prices go up. We should have inflation and that should cause interest rates to go up. That's not the case. Instead we have a debt problem. The low interest rates makes it cheap to borrow money. It caused a problem ten years ago and now Trump wants to ’improve’ things by doing exactly what he thought was a mistake when Obama was in the Oval Office. That's how good the economy is.

Record numbers of baby boomers retiring. The unemployment rate is getting juiced...like the economy on a cheap money sugar high.

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« Reply #58461 on: October 15, 2019, 08:30:26 PM »
Trump Ultra Matt Gaetz tried to engage in another round of witness intimidation today.  Tried to force his way into the Fiona Hill testimony hearing, even though he's not on any of the committees involved in the impeachment hearing.  Tried to claim he was allowed to sit in because there are no set rules when it comes to impeachment.  Got thrown out, then claimed Schiff was withholding evidence and the Democrats were attempting a coup.

I think this guy needs to take a cold shower with Nunes.  Add him to the list of people I want to see taken down over all of this.
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« Reply #58462 on: October 15, 2019, 10:38:53 PM »
Washington Examiner
Presidential election model that got it wrong once in 40 years predicts Trump 2020 win
 Tim Pearce
2 hrs ago


A presidential election model that incorrectly predicted just one election outcome since 1980 shows President Trump winning reelection in 2020.

Moody’s Analytics released the results of its 2020 prediction model on Tuesday showing Trump winning with 332 electoral votes, an increase over his 2016 win of 306, if voter turnout remains relatively close to the historical average.

The Moody's Analytics model takes into account political dynamics but weighs heavily on economic factors. If the economy remains strong and voter turnout meets the historical average or is low, the model shows Trump winning handily. In the event that voter turnout hits its historical high, the Democratic candidate is expected to win a close race with 279 electoral votes, just over the 270 vote threshold.

Moody's Analytics chief economist Mark Zandi, public finance research director Dan White, and assistant director Bernard Yaros coauthored the study.

"If the economy a year from now is the same as it is today, or roughly so, then the power of incumbency is strong and Trump's election odds are very good, particularly if Democrats aren't enthusiastic and don't get out to vote," the authors said. "It's about turnout."

The model accurately predicted every presidential election since 1980 except for the most recent one in 2016. Afterward, the authors retooled the single model and broke it into three that, averaged together, would have accurately predicted every election. The model is broken up into "the pocketbook model," "the stock market model," and "the unemployment model."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/presidential-election-model-that-got-it-wrong-once-in-40-years-predicts-trump-2020-win/ar-AAIP6Md

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« Reply #58463 on: October 15, 2019, 10:44:19 PM »
You can't predict an election outcome 12 months in advance.  Fuck you can't even predict the weather effectively more than 10 days in advance.

There's no telling what the impeachment might bring out; public opinion on the matter is still in flux but gradually solidifying.  The arse could fall out of the economy and strand Trump high and dry - especially the way he's dicking around with it.  The situation with Syria and Turkey is hitting the government's credibility hard.

Horseshit prediction.
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« Reply #58464 on: October 15, 2019, 10:50:51 PM »
Record numbers of baby boomers retiring. The unemployment rate is getting juiced...like the economy on a cheap money sugar high.



Something like that. I expect Trump to do everything he can to prop up the economy until election day.

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« Reply #58465 on: October 15, 2019, 11:03:14 PM »
Something like that. I expect Trump to do everything he can to prop up the economy until election day.

Except he's the one who's been wrecking it.

Bottom line is Trump's barely holding on as it is.  If anything else goes wrong he's in big trouble - and something else will go wrong because it's fucking Trump.  It's been going wrong for him since his inauguration.
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« Reply #58466 on: October 15, 2019, 11:14:45 PM »
Except he's the one who's been wrecking it.

Bottom line is Trump's barely holding on as it is.  If anything else goes wrong he's in big trouble - and something else will go wrong because it's fucking Trump.  It's been going wrong for him since his inauguration.

In fairness, I think the problems with the economy go back to at least 08/09. Trump has basically kept doing the same Obama did. But in Trump's view, what was wrong then is now a great approach. Because he is doing it.

Agree something is bound to go wrong. Trump is annoying everyone. Eventually it comes back to haunt him. The only problem is he is good at dictating the agenda. k




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« Reply #58467 on: October 15, 2019, 11:19:15 PM »

Is that why he is sending thousands of troops to Saudi Arabia? How is that friggin consistent?





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« Reply #58468 on: October 16, 2019, 12:12:40 AM »
In fairness, I think the problems with the economy go back to at least 08/09. Trump has basically kept doing the same Obama did. But in Trump's view, what was wrong then is now a great approach. Because he is doing it.

Agree something is bound to go wrong. Trump is annoying everyone. Eventually it comes back to haunt him. The only problem is he is good at dictating the agenda. k

Wait, Trumps carried on doing what Obama did? I must have missed the bit where Obama gave away a $3trn tax cut to the richest 80%, tweeted angrily at the federal reserve to cut interest rates, and got into a multi front trade war by abusing presidential power to unilaterally slap on tariffs under the guise of national security, before bailing out the farmers to the tune of billions because their markets are teetering on collapse because of said needless trade war.

Trump has put a pillow over the face of the economy Obama painstakingly nursed back to health. They're absolutely nothing alike.

Trump wont survive a year without something else going wrong because most of what has gone wrong has been self inflicted.  He can't help himself. He dicks around with the economy because executive power gives him an old man boner.
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« Reply #58469 on: October 16, 2019, 02:31:43 AM »
It would be more amusing if he wasn't a key advisor to Trump

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Ron Vara has strong opinions. He thinks you’ve “got to be nuts to eat Chinese food.” He doles out little scraps of wisdom, like “Don’t play checkers in a chess world.” Vara is a military veteran and Harvard-trained economist who made seven figures in the stock market by investing in companies that do well during international crises. His contrarian savvy earned him an ominous-sounding nickname: Dark Prince of Disaster.

Vara makes frequent cameos in the books of Peter Navarro, a White House adviser who is often referred to as Trump’s “China muse.” Before joining the White House, Navarro was a professor of economics and public policy at the University of California at Irvine and the author of books like Death by China: Confronting the Dragon — A Global Call to Action and The Coming China Wars: Where They Will Be Fought and How They Can Be Won (FT Press). He’s since become one of Trump’s most dogged defenders, telling CNN recently that “I am never disappointed in my president.”

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China scholars and fellow economists tend to be less enthused. Navarro doesn’t have a background in Chinese studies, doesn’t speak the language, and reportedly made his first trip to the country only last year. Justin Wolfers, a professor of public policy and economics at the University of Michigan, once wrote that Navarro “stands so far outside the mainstream that he endorses few of the key tenets of the profession.”

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So who is Ron Vara? He didn’t seem to exist except in the work of Peter Navarro. The most information Morris-Suzuki could find came from Navarro’s 2001 book, If It’s Raining in Brazil, Buy Starbucks (McGraw-Hill). In that book, which lays out Navarro’s plan for how to profit by paying attention to bad news, the reader learns that Vara was a “struggling doctoral student in economics” at Harvard in the mid-1980s, slogging away on a thesis about utilities regulation.

Morris-Suzuki, now in full detective mode, sent emails to some colleagues at Harvard, but no one could turn up any record of Vara.

While Ron Vara appears not to have attended Harvard in the 1980s, Navarro did. He was a doctoral student in economics who published research on, as it happens, utilities regulation. Not all of Vara’s biography lines up with Navarro’s (Ron Vara, for example, was a military reservist during the first Gulf War, back when Navarro was a 40-something economics professor), but there was enough overlap to arouse suspicion.

And there was another tip-off: “Ron Vara” is an anagram of “Navarro.”

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You’re not going to find Ron Vara,” he said. He described Vara as one of a “number of Easter eggs” in the book meant to lighten the tone. “We do try to have a little bit of fun,” he said. “If anybody wants to not enjoy that, they’re welcome to.”

Those who know Navarro well, Autry says, were fully aware that Ron Vara was a phony source who often popped up in his books. He said Vara was Navarro’s “alter ego,” an “everyman character” who dispenses cutesy business aphorisms as well as dire warnings about Chinese food.

Another of Navarro’s co-authors, however, was unaware of Ron Vara’s fictional status. Vara is quoted in Seeds of Destruction: Why the Path to Economic Ruin Runs Through Washington, and How to Reclaim American Prosperity (FT Press, 2010), written by Navarro and Glenn Hubbard, a professor of finance and economics at Columbia University and dean emeritus of the business school. Asked via email whether he knew that Navarro had inserted a fictional character, and whether doing so was OK with him, Hubbard replied “No and no.”

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I emailed the White House press office and received a phone call from Navarro. While he declined to speak on the record, he did send a statement in which he called Ron Vara a “whimsical device and pen name I’ve used throughout the years for opinions and purely entertainment value, not as a source of fact.”

He compared the Ron Vara character to “Alfred Hitchcock appearing briefly in cameo in his movies" and wrote that it's "refreshing that somebody finally figured out an inside joke that has been hiding in plain sight for years."

The inside joke doesn't strike Morris-Suzuki as particularly funny. Maybe, she said, Vara began as a whimsical device — though even that’s questionable in books that purport to be nonfiction. But “once he started to be used as a source of fear and loathing about China, and of messages which readers are likely to believe about the dangers of various Chinese products, the joke wore very thin,” she said. She was left  “wondering whether there might be other invented sources in Navarro's work.”

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« Reply #58470 on: October 16, 2019, 09:04:17 AM »
You can't predict an election outcome 12 months in advance.  Fuck you can't even predict the weather effectively more than 10 days in advance.

There's no telling what the impeachment might bring out; public opinion on the matter is still in flux but gradually solidifying.  The arse could fall out of the economy and strand Trump high and dry - especially the way he's dicking around with it.  The situation with Syria and Turkey is hitting the government's credibility hard.

Horseshit prediction.

Particularly as the opponent is still unknown ffs
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« Reply #58471 on: October 16, 2019, 12:04:37 PM »
See he met with the parents of Harry Dunn in the Whitehouse and tried to ambush them into meeting with Anne Sacoolas next door, with photographers in tow, most probably for PR purposes.

How could someone have diplomatic immunity from killing someone? Seems bizarre

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« Reply #58472 on: October 16, 2019, 12:07:27 PM »
See he met with the parents of Harry Dunn in the Whitehouse and tried to ambush them into meeting with Anne Sacoolas next door, with photographers in tow, most probably for PR purposes.

How could someone have diplomatic immunity from killing someone? Seems bizarre

Yup, seems he wanted to use them as a PR stunt. Doesn’t surprise me one bit.

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« Reply #58473 on: October 16, 2019, 12:34:24 PM »
You can't predict an election outcome 12 months in advance.  Fuck you can't even predict the weather effectively more than 10 days in advance.

There's no telling what the impeachment might bring out; public opinion on the matter is still in flux but gradually solidifying.  The arse could fall out of the economy and strand Trump high and dry - especially the way he's dicking around with it.  The situation with Syria and Turkey is hitting the government's credibility hard.

Horseshit prediction.

Agre. Plus....Moody's rated bonds in 2008...and had to pay a 1 billion penalty after the crash because their analysis was so corrupt. Who cares what kind of predictions they make when they are so bad at their core job?
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« Reply #58474 on: October 16, 2019, 12:49:53 PM »
See he met with the parents of Harry Dunn in the Whitehouse and tried to ambush them into meeting with Anne Sacoolas next door, with photographers in tow, most probably for PR purposes.

How could someone have diplomatic immunity from killing someone? Seems bizarre

Yup, seems he wanted to use them as a PR stunt. Doesn’t surprise me one bit.

He'll be mining their quotes to the media to find anything positive they said about him so he can tweet it.

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« Reply #58475 on: October 16, 2019, 02:04:24 PM »
So Erdogan has basically told Pence to fuck off. Remember how long it took Obama to rebuild goodwill? It's going to take ten times that to rebuild soft power and diplomacy
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« Reply #58476 on: October 16, 2019, 02:04:46 PM »
Wait, Trumps carried on doing what Obama did? I must have missed the bit where Obama gave away a $3trn tax cut to the richest 80%, tweeted angrily at the federal reserve to cut interest rates, and got into a multi front trade war by abusing presidential power to unilaterally slap on tariffs under the guise of national security, before bailing out the farmers to the tune of billions because their markets are teetering on collapse because of said needless trade war.

Trump has put a pillow over the face of the economy Obama painstakingly nursed back to health. They're absolutely nothing alike.

Trump wont survive a year without something else going wrong because most of what has gone wrong has been self inflicted.  He can't help himself. He dicks around with the economy because executive power gives him an old man boner.

Obama was perhaps forced to do the rescue mission. It's what started the big wealth transfer. IMO it's a huge failure and it happened on Obama's watch. I believe Trump was right when he said it was a bubble economy. My problem with Trump is that he's said that and then he's done the exact same thing and wants even more of it. What was wrong before is what he claims is right now. It's a lie when he says it's the greatest economy ever. He's made the problem worse during his time in office.

The tariffs and tax cuts however, both are all on Trump.

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« Reply #58477 on: October 16, 2019, 02:38:03 PM »
Obama was perhaps forced to do the rescue mission. It's what started the big wealth transfer. IMO it's a huge failure and it happened on Obama's watch. I believe Trump was right when he said it was a bubble economy. My problem with Trump is that he's said that and then he's done the exact same thing and wants even more of it. What was wrong before is what he claims is right now. It's a lie when he says it's the greatest economy ever. He's made the problem worse during his time in office.

The tariffs and tax cuts however, both are all on Trump.

First off, to my knowledge the blow out didn't start on Obama's watch - it started under GWB, because modern Republicans are routinely fiscally irresponsible and generally incompetent. 

Second,  Trump has been systematically scrapping the Obama era regulations put in place to prevent a repeat of the crash and abandoning modern, economy boosting industries like renewable energy.

If you want to believe Trump's bubble economy assertion that is your choice; but if you kick the ladder out from under any economy you're going to collapse it.
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« Reply #58478 on: October 16, 2019, 02:50:46 PM »
First off, to my knowledge the blow out didn't start on Obama's watch - it started under GWB, because modern Republicans are routinely fiscally irresponsible and generally incompetent. 

Second,  Trump has been systematically scrapping the Obama era regulations put in place to prevent a repeat of the crash and abandoning modern, economy boosting industries like renewable energy.

If you want to believe Trump's bubble economy assertion that is your choice; but if you kick the ladder out from under any economy you're going to collapse it.

They are fiscally terrible since Nixon. It is brokerage politics at its peak. They give unpopular social concessions to buy their evangelical/rural base and then buy enough other votes in the suburbs with tax breaks. Reagan increased the deficit with supply side economics. And that has been continued for 40 years.
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« Reply #58479 on: October 16, 2019, 08:00:06 PM »
Obama was perhaps forced to do the rescue mission. It's what started the big wealth transfer. IMO it's a huge failure and it happened on Obama's watch.

Fake news.

Bill Clinton left a solid economy with no deficit.

Bush Jr. and his cronies were on watch when the financial debacle loomed causing Obama to engineer the bailout, which was paid back with interest.

Fungus' huge tax cut (the only mechanism in the Republican toolbox) for the rich has caused the monster deficit the US currently 'enjoys'.
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