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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2600 on: December 21, 2019, 10:31:52 AM »
Thurles 12:45  Young Dev  100/30

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2601 on: December 21, 2019, 12:26:52 PM »
Denis Hogan's grey Young Dev landed a touch when bolting up in qualified riders handicap hurdle at Limerick last month under today's jockey and will run next time with a 13lb rise in that sphere. Going over fences today where he is 1lb lower than recent winning hurdles mark so hopefully another touch could be on the cards..

QUOTES: He was a previous course winner and had been working nicely lately. It didn't look the strongest of races and I told Liam [Mulryan, owner] that I thought he'd go close - I hope he had a few quid on. He'll probably come back here at Christmas for a chase, although he's not as good over a fence. He's done his job for today - Denis Hogan, trainer of YOUNG DEV


Chambard comes from the in-form Venetia Williams yard and is a winning hurdler who has finished a decent second on both starts over fences at Sandown 2m4f, soft and Leicester 2m4f, good to soft,  has been a bit novicey to date so will need to improve his jumping but the drop back to 2m may unlock some improvement and he ran well on heavy ground over hurdles..

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2602 on: December 22, 2019, 10:36:16 AM »
Young Dev's race was abandoned with Chambard running into 2nd place with his jumping letting him down again and was never really going..

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2603 on: December 23, 2019, 04:51:04 PM »
Great racing over Christmas as usual. Looking forward to seeing this years King George in particular.

Lots of the big guns are out in Ireland as well, interested to see whether Presenting Percy can come back to his best against Kemboy.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2604 on: December 23, 2019, 04:59:53 PM »
Hopefully Lostintranslation or Thistlecrack win the King George, Elegant Escape bolts up at Chepstow and Fusil Raffles injects some much needed quality in to the Champion Hurdle picture. Samcro will probably win over fences as well if he stands up.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2605 on: December 23, 2019, 05:07:41 PM »
Hopefully Lostintranslation or Thistlecrack win the King George, Elegant Escape bolts up at Chepstow and Fusil Raffles injects some much needed quality in to the Champion Hurdle picture. Samcro will probably win over fences as well if he stands up.
I hope Faugheen runs against Samcro, that could be quite something.

Iím a Cyrname fan, right handed on a flat track should be in his favour just hope he stays. Might get a decent price as all the recent money seems to be for Lostintranslation. Actually think Footpad is interesting at the price looked back to best last time out after a dreadful last season.

Also Laurina, Fakir Doudairies and Notebook all up against each other in another great race on Boxing Day
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2606 on: December 23, 2019, 05:19:05 PM »
Cyrname is a terrific horse and might well get a soft lead and never see another horse but I'd be wanting at least 5/2-3/1 to go anywhere near him in against a proven course performer and a new kid on the block with almost no chinks in his armour. Clan Des Obeaux is actually the one I'm most worried about as a backer of Tizzard's horses if I'm honest, he'll get a nice pace to aim at and he had a nice blowout in Ireland. Lostintranslation though; had the toe to beat Defi Du Seuil over 2 1/2 miles and lasted home over 3 1 1/2 at Haydock. It's going to take something exceptional to beat him I reckon, he's hard to get off the bridle mid race.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2607 on: December 23, 2019, 05:45:25 PM »
Cyrname absolutely bolts up if he stays, in another league to these on my figures, staying is the only question mark.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2608 on: December 23, 2019, 06:24:41 PM »
Hopefully Lostintranslation or Thistlecrack win the King George, Elegant Escape bolts up at Chepstow and Fusil Raffles injects some much needed quality in to the Champion Hurdle picture. Samcro will probably win over fences as well if he stands up.
The Christmas Hurdle looks low on quality this year, unless Fusil Raffles is top class. ChíTibello and Elixir De Nutz look decent value
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2609 on: December 24, 2019, 08:14:02 PM »
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2610 on: December 24, 2019, 11:07:16 PM »
Clan des Obeaux for me. Will improve for its last run and is proven. Multiple winners of this from Nicholls are not uncommon either.

Will also be having a good look at Venetia's runners , hopefully her good form will continue.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2611 on: December 26, 2019, 11:29:58 AM »
I have backed Fort De L'Ocean again so I have 2pts on 15/8

Oliver Greenall's Fort De L'Ocean who is owned by the Hedgehoppers is a French import who posted an improved effort when second with today's rival Maxed Out King 7l back in third in a Catterick handicap over 1m7f, good to soft nine days ago with my last winner Reverant Cust just pipping him. He briefly went clear and looked the winner until getting pegged back by what looked a good thing. He gets into this off the same mark and also has the assistance of Luca Morgan(7) who has won on his last two rides.


Denis Hogan's grey Young Dev landed a touch when bolting up in qualified riders handicap hurdle at Limerick last month under today's jockey and will run next time with a 13lb rise in that sphere. Going over fences today where he is 1lb lower than recent winning hurdles mark so hopefully another touch could be on the cards..

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2612 on: December 26, 2019, 02:34:52 PM »
De Bromhead looks to have a couple of real chances at Cheltenham with Aspire Tower and Notebook. Not sure if Fakir Doudairies Wasnít a little unlucky though as Mark Walsh maybe lost an iron 3 out and couldnít quite get to him
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2613 on: December 26, 2019, 02:54:02 PM »
Faugheen destroyed Samcro. Samcro starting to look like a bridle horse
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2614 on: December 26, 2019, 03:12:54 PM »
Bollocks. Knew CDO was the big danger, but didnít have a saver. Cyrname the highest rated horse in training?! :lmao

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« Reply #2615 on: December 26, 2019, 03:21:02 PM »
Bollocks. Knew CDO was the big danger, but didnít have a saver. Cyrname the highest rated horse in training?! :lmao
Some horses just seem to come alive at Kempton. Clan Des Obesux looks a Stone better horse round there. Not sure Cyrname ran his race. Lostintranslation will be better at Cheltenham, but didnít look like he could go the pace there 
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2616 on: December 26, 2019, 03:24:33 PM »
If Clan Des Obeaux is a Kempton horse Cyrname looks like he canít run away from Ascot. Lostintranslation landed on one and when you do that youíve had it against horses of that calibre. Always felt like they were going a stride too quick for him anyway but he might have stayed on into second if he didnít make that mistake.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2617 on: December 26, 2019, 03:32:03 PM »
Backed CDO 2 weeks ago, can't remember what turned me on to him, think i read something in an article, had a good day today, backed 3 horses and 2 won, Slate House at 4/1 and Clan des Obeaux.  ;D
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2618 on: December 26, 2019, 03:34:50 PM »
Backed CDO 2 weeks ago, can't remember what turned me on to him, think i read something in an article, had a good day today, backed 3 horses and 2 won, Slate House at 4/1 and Clan des Obeaux.  ;D
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« Reply #2619 on: December 26, 2019, 03:39:35 PM »
Hard to tell if it was stamina problem with Cyrname or just an off day, didn't seem to be travelling all that well most of the race to me.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2620 on: December 26, 2019, 03:57:15 PM »
Hard to tell if it was stamina problem with Cyrname or just an off day, didn't seem to be travelling all that well most of the race to me.
Yep both Walsh and McCoy didnít think he was happy from the start. Certainly didnít seem to run with his usual enthusiasm. Heís won twice round Kempton before I think but perhaps heís just better at Ascot
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2621 on: December 26, 2019, 04:33:57 PM »
Well done RSPP and CP :)

Young Dev's race a few days ago was abandoned which is a pity because I had decent odds on him although I will never know the outcome now.
Won well today and looked a well worked out coup which came off in good style with two wins on the bounce for the owners.
My first bet today just failed and a little further should do the trick..

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2622 on: December 26, 2019, 09:03:37 PM »
If Clan Des Obeaux is a Kempton horse Cyrname looks like he canít run away from Ascot. Lostintranslation landed on one and when you do that youíve had it against horses of that calibre. Always felt like they were going a stride too quick for him anyway but he might have stayed on into second if he didnít make that mistake.

Lostintranslation was coming with a good challenge I think. I'm not saying he would've won but he pinged one of the fences before he clattered one and was lit up and looked full of running. He would've stayed down the straight and CDO wouldn't have bolted up like that.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2623 on: December 26, 2019, 11:08:02 PM »
Lostintranslation was coming with a good challenge I think. I'm not saying he would've won but he pinged one of the fences before he clattered one and was lit up and looked full of running. He would've stayed down the straight and CDO wouldn't have bolted up like that.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2624 on: December 26, 2019, 11:32:15 PM »
overrated LIT. Nice hore but been enritely flattered to date. Absolutely no chance in a Gold Cup.

Maybe he is mate but that error ruined his chance. Despite not travelling or jumping too well he still came there full of running until he clattered that fence.


But I agree, he's not a Gold Cup horse. Place chance at best.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2625 on: December 26, 2019, 11:41:35 PM »
I actually think Lostintranslation has more chance at Cheltenham, just think it suits him better. Whether heís good enough remains to be seen, but thereís no out and out superstar in that division at the moment
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2626 on: December 27, 2019, 01:09:15 AM »
Yep both Walsh and McCoy didnít think he was happy from the start. Certainly didnít seem to run with his usual enthusiasm. Heís won twice round Kempton before I think but perhaps heís just better at Ascot


Good shout on young dev from cormack snr.

Walsh is a sour fucker who doesn't like being challenged or proven wrong. McCoy is better than when he started but generally sticks to the obvious.

Looking at The Welsh national, 2 look to have great chances.

Yala Enki- has moved from a very good trainer in Venetia Williams to a great one in Paul Nicholls. 3rd in this last year and 8lb lower this time on suitable ground. Think it's the type of horse Byrony will get the best out of.

Potters Corner- has won over 4m at Uttoxeter and loves the soft.

Backing both e.w, slight preference for Yala.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2627 on: December 27, 2019, 01:35:28 AM »

Walsh is a sour fucker who doesn't like being challenged or proven wrong. McCoy is better than when he started but generally sticks to the obvious.


Well done with CDO, he won well.

While they might not be the greatest pundits in the world they werenít wrong in pointing this out mid race. Cyrname may well have been beaten anyway today but I think heís better than he showed, and agreed with them that he never seemed to be going as well as he has done previously.

Looking forward to some more good horses today anyway with some excellent races at Leopardstown in particular.

The two I quite like for the Welsh National are Now McGinty and Captain Chaos, neither should mind the ground, but whereas NM has a decent Chepstow record, CC definitely doesnít which is a concern. Can also see Arthurís Gift running a good race at a price.



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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2628 on: December 27, 2019, 03:03:05 PM »
Excellent result there RSPP.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2629 on: December 27, 2019, 05:52:13 PM »
Leopardstown Saturday  3-10 Kemboy   15/8  BOG

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2630 on: December 27, 2019, 11:48:35 PM »
Excellent result there RSPP.

Cheers.

Tricky day tomorrow to say the least.

Kateson in the last at Newbury should go well, small ew dabble. In the same race, Nicky Henderson has 3, including one that hasn't run for 1051 days, he must think it has something to keep it in training, so will keep an eye on the market.

And just as Venetia has a run of form, the bubble bursts, 2 fallers and 3 beaten favourites in last 2 days.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2631 on: December 28, 2019, 09:28:52 AM »
KEMBOY  3-10 Leopardstown

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1pt 2/1

The High Class Kemboy who is best priced 11/2 for next year's Cheltenham Gold Cup has won a hurdle race and seven chases from 2m 3f to 3m 1f on ground varying from good to yielding - soft including six Grade 1's. Won on his latest outing in a Grade 1 chase when 13-8fav in the Group 1 Coral Punchestown Gold Cup at Punchestown over 3m yielding to soft in May, beating Al Boum Photo by 2l.

Willie Mullins Kemboy is a winner of his last six completed starts, he went from fence to fence with aplomb last term with just a single hiccup with a first-fence exit in the Cheltenham Gold Cup. It actually worked in his favour when he atoned in brilliant style with a powerful Aintree display when still fresh. Ended the season on a high when beating Cheltenham hero Al Boum Photo in the Punchestown Gold Cup.


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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2632 on: December 28, 2019, 10:31:09 AM »
The Savills Chase looks really interesting, not having a bet but hoping Presenting Percy can make up for a wasted season and show the potential he looked to have the year before.
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KEMBOY  3-10 Leopardstown

1pt 15/8
1pt 2/1

The High Class Kemboy who is best priced 11/2 for next year's Cheltenham Gold Cup has won a hurdle race and seven chases from 2m 3f to 3m 1f on ground varying from good to yielding - soft including six Grade 1's. Won on his latest outing in a Grade 1 chase when 13-8fav in the Group 1 Coral Punchestown Gold Cup at Punchestown over 3m yielding to soft in May, beating Al Boum Photo by 2l.

Willie Mullins Kemboy is a winner of his last six completed starts, he went from fence to fence with aplomb last term with just a single hiccup with a first-fence exit in the Cheltenham Gold Cup. It actually worked in his favour when he atoned in brilliant style with a powerful Aintree display when still fresh. Ended the season on a high when beating Cheltenham hero Al Boum Photo in the Punchestown Gold Cup.



Surprised it isn't much shorter price, unless there are fitness concerns with it being its first run.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2634 on: December 28, 2019, 04:29:30 PM »
Good to see Apples Jade run like that again.

Not sure what to make of the Savills Chase. Kemboy probably needed the run and should prove the best in the long run, but a bunched finish usually means theyre all good but nothing outstanding
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2635 on: December 28, 2019, 07:50:47 PM »
Spot on with today's price RSPP and hope so duvva. KB will be much better for the run as they say..

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 L 9/2-5/2             460      -2pts
 L 5/1-9/2             440      -3pts
W 2/1-5/4             475      -1pt
 L 7/4-6-4             455      -2pts
 L 11/4-13/8          435      -3pts
 L 5/2 3/1              415      -4pts
W 3/1-7/2              485      -1pt
 L 13/8-2/1            465      -2pts
 L 2/1-7/4              445      -3pts
 L 5/2-9/4              425      -4pts
W 3/1-2/1              485       -1pt
W 5/2-9/4              535       +1.5pts
 L 3/1-11/4             515       +.5pts
W 9/2-5/2              605       +5pts
 L 11/4-2/1             585        +4pts
W 11/4-15/8           640        +6.75pts
 L 7/2-11/4             620        +5.75pts
 L 100/30 - 2/1       600        +4.75pts
 L 5/2 - 2/1             580         +3.75pts
W 9/4 - 7/4             625         +6pts
 L 5/2 -2/1              605         +5pts
 L 5/2 - 13/8           585         +4pts
W 3/1 - 11/4           645         +7pts
 L 5/2 -2/1              625         +6pts
 L 5/2 - 9/4             605         +5pts
 L 5/2 - 9/4             585         +4pts
 L 15/8 - 13/8         545         +2pts
 W 15/8 - 5/4          582         +3.875
 L 2/1 - 7/4             542         +1.875

MAN OF PLENTY 2-35 Kelso  3/1   BOG

MOONRAKER 3-00 Southwell   5/2   BOG

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2636 on: December 29, 2019, 11:35:13 AM »
MAN OF PLENTY  2-35 Kelso 3/1 BOG

Venetia Williams's grey gelding The Crooner is still quite unexposed and also has scope for further progress now stepped up in trip off the back of his Leicester neck success but is now up 6lbs with the loss of his last time out winning claimer H Nugent(3) .
But I think the danger could come from the handily-weighted MAN OF PLENTY who has been out of sorts since winning a Class 1 Listed handicap about this time last year off today's mark of 123(5)

Man Of Plenty Isn't what you would call a regular winner of late but usually knocks around in better company but is back on a decent mark and shaped with much more encouragement in a stronger race than this at Cheltenham last time.

MOONRAKER 3-00 Southwell    5/2   BOG


Mick Appleby who has my fancy and Scott Dixon who has Samover and Crosse Fire have won this race twice a piece in recent seasons and the former can hopefully take it again. MOONRAKER  who has a good record over CD of three wins from seven and has slid to a handy mark and wasn't well drawn when just behind Samovar nine days ago.
Last win was in February this year in a decent Class 2 event when winning quite easily by nearly 4 lengths off a mark of 88 and next win can't be too far away now down to 81 in this Class 4 with Ben Curtis taking the ride..


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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2637 on: December 30, 2019, 07:17:49 PM »
Man Of Plenty plugged on for a place but MOONRAKER came good and led virtually from start to finish..


ROUNDABOUT MAGIC  12-00 Lingfield   9/4   BOG

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2638 on: December 31, 2019, 09:58:38 AM »
STARTING BANK    500
 L 2/1-7/4             480      -1pt
 L 9/2-5/2             460      -2pts
 L 5/1-9/2             440      -3pts
W 2/1-5/4             475      -1pt
 L 7/4-6-4             455      -2pts
 L 11/4-13/8          435      -3pts
 L 5/2 3/1              415      -4pts
W 3/1-7/2              485      -1pt
 L 13/8-2/1            465      -2pts
 L 2/1-7/4              445      -3pts
 L 5/2-9/4              425      -4pts
W 3/1-2/1              485       -1pt
W 5/2-9/4              535       +1.5pts
 L 3/1-11/4             515       +.5pts
W 9/2-5/2              605       +5pts
 L 11/4-2/1             585        +4pts
W 11/4-15/8           640        +6.75pts
 L 7/2-11/4             620        +5.75pts
 L 100/30 - 2/1       600        +4.75pts
 L 5/2 - 2/1             580         +3.75pts
W 9/4 - 7/4             625         +6pts
 L 5/2 -2/1              605         +5pts
 L 5/2 - 13/8           585         +4pts
W 3/1 - 11/4           645         +7pts
 L 5/2 -2/1              625         +6pts
 L 5/2 - 9/4             605         +5pts
 L 5/2 - 9/4             585         +4pts
 L 15/8 - 13/8         545         +2pts
 W 15/8 - 5/4          582         +3.875
 L 2/1 - 7/4             542         +1.875
 L 3/1 - 7/2             522         +.875
 W 5/2 - 9/4            572         +3.375

ROUNDABOUT MAGIC  9/4 BOG

Simon Dow's FIVE TIMES CD winner is a hold up performer who always seems to find trouble in running all over the shop and again with a bit more luck the tiny ROUNDABOUT MAGIC would have gone close over CD last time for Tom Marquand and he can hopefully gain compensation with Hollie Doyle taking over in the saddle.
The plan will to be a little bit closer to the action this time just behind the leaders from a good draw and motor down the outside in the final furlong and as the Great Man says " Let's talk about SIX BABY "

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #2639 on: December 31, 2019, 11:29:24 AM »
Any tips for Lingfield today?!
You appear to hve mistaken 'the funny photo thread' for the 'pointless, pre-pubescent nonsensical not even porn but "look, look, it's a girl" thread'