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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7601 on: January 6, 2017, 02:27:41 PM »
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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7602 on: January 6, 2017, 04:28:14 PM »
Club shop isn't even finished. #FSGOUT
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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7603 on: January 9, 2017, 12:56:40 PM »
Took some pictures of the club shop site from the Main Stand yesterday.

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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7604 on: January 11, 2017, 01:05:12 PM »
That's why those temporary walls are there though, to hide away the work going on behind, so you won't see any of the changes until they connect the completed work to the entrance to the tunnel area.

I mean it's a bit of a leap to go from seeing so little on some videos to 'next season'  ;D
Still convinced that the internals are going to be completed by the end of Jan?

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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7605 on: January 11, 2017, 01:08:27 PM »
Still convinced that the internals are going to be completed by the end of Jan?

I haven't seen any recent images of any of it. Have you?

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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7606 on: January 11, 2017, 02:16:56 PM »
Still convinced that the internals are going to be completed by the end of Jan?

Does it matter if it's not completed by the end of January?

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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7607 on: January 11, 2017, 04:17:03 PM »
Does it matter if it's not completed by the end of January?
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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7608 on: January 12, 2017, 01:20:03 PM »
I haven't seen any recent images of any of it. Have you?
I've seen the tunnel cam!

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« Reply #7609 on: January 12, 2017, 01:21:07 PM »
nope.
No one is debating that, it's just strange the club havent said anything either way. All statements have said internals would be finished by Jan but everything else suggests otherwise.

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« Reply #7610 on: January 12, 2017, 01:21:18 PM »
I've seen the tunnel cam!

Have you seen anything behind the temporary walls which is all you can see on the tunnel cam?

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« Reply #7611 on: January 12, 2017, 01:22:08 PM »
No one is debating that, it's just strange the club havent said anything either way. All statements have said internals would be finished by Jan but everything else suggests otherwise.

"Everything else" being you seeing something on the tunnel cam. There is nothing else.

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« Reply #7612 on: January 12, 2017, 05:05:13 PM »
"Everything else" being you seeing something on the tunnel cam. There is nothing else.
You can tell that it's not going to be ready by the end of April. We'll see who's right in a few weeks I guess!

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« Reply #7613 on: January 12, 2017, 05:08:59 PM »
You can tell that it's not going to be ready by the end of April. We'll see who's right in a few weeks I guess!

I've not said it will be done by any date, I've said the club has said by end Jan and that seeing some tunnel cam video of the temporary corridors give zero indication otherwise.

For all you know behind those corridors the work is 99% complete and they will commence connecting new to old shortly - that's the whole point of the temporary corridors, to hide away the work until complete.


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« Reply #7614 on: January 12, 2017, 07:08:06 PM »
You can tell that it's not going to be ready by the end of April. We'll see who's right in a few weeks I guess!

Do you work in construction? The end of April is miles off. You can't tell anything from what's publicly available.
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« Reply #7615 on: January 12, 2017, 08:32:39 PM »
Do you work in construction? The end of April is miles off. You can't tell anything from what's publicly available.
I've no idea why I said April. I meant January!

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« Reply #7616 on: January 12, 2017, 11:33:56 PM »
I've not said it will be done by any date, I've said the club has said by end Jan and that seeing some tunnel cam video of the temporary corridors give zero indication otherwise.

For all you know behind those corridors the work is 99% complete and they will commence connecting new to old shortly - that's the whole point of the temporary corridors, to hide away the work until complete.


Not particularly interested in a game of I told you so though, but thanks for the offer.
For me the tunnel cam videos indicate that the internals won't be ready. I won't bore you with the details but it looks like that will be the case from the things I can see in that video.

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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7617 on: January 12, 2017, 11:41:04 PM »
For me the tunnel cam videos indicate that the internals won't be ready. I won't bore you with the details but it looks like that will be the case from the things I can see in that video.

Nah I won't be bored, feel free to say what you see.

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« Reply #7618 on: January 13, 2017, 05:43:24 AM »
For me the tunnel cam videos indicate that the internals won't be ready. I won't bore you with the details but it looks like that will be the case from the things I can see in that video.

I'm used to internal fit-outs and what I saw on the tunnel cam is a mix of  permanent partitions and temporary hoardings hiding the main fitout areas that can come down over a weekend and an open ceiling grid that looks unfinished but again, putting in the tiles and closing up is a couple of days work at the end of the job. There is absolutely no way of telling how complete things are behind the scenes.

They could be a week away from completion or six months. Unless you've been behind the scenes or seen the contractors site report and programme it's just pointless speculation.

One other thing that often happens at this stage is that the client sees things almost finished and asks for changes. I can imagine Klopp will be making a few tweaks to the changing rooms and people will be re arranging office layouts etc. Partitions, first fix and major services will all have been complete for some time now I would expect and it will be second fix and fine finishes going in with furniture and fittings as the last elements.

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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7619 on: January 16, 2017, 08:55:47 PM »
Out of curiosity. Where are the temporary changing rooms situated? Just been looking at the planning application to see if I can spot them on it. No joy though.
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« Reply #7620 on: January 16, 2017, 11:40:08 PM »
Out of curiosity. Where are the temporary changing rooms situated? Just been looking at the planning application to see if I can spot them on it. No joy though.

Pretty sure there just in the carpark were the coach goes in from the tunnel videos the club have released this season
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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7621 on: January 17, 2017, 08:08:03 AM »
Yes it's the car park outside the enterence to the stand.

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« Reply #7622 on: January 17, 2017, 09:22:28 AM »
Out of curiosity. Where are the temporary changing rooms situated? Just been looking at the planning application to see if I can spot them on it. No joy though.

I traced the route from that video the Plymouth fan posted and it looks like they're somewhere around the carpark at the bottom centre right. The route goes through the conference room then along the corridor to the left of the away changing rooms then left where it says 'Players, officials & team staff before turning right down the tunnel to the pitch. When I have time I'll do a better check of using the post match footage (counting ceiling tiles etc) and do a mark up.

In light of the previous comments about completion it suggests that the tunnel cam view is showing a tiny proportion of the back of house facilities - primarily corridor areas with ceiling tiles waiting to go in.

That plan can't be the latest as there are a few details out of place.

*edit - that looks like the planning drawing for ground level. There were definitely changes from that as the retail store is now being built next to the Albert.  I;m not sure if there's an updated scheme in the public domain.
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« Reply #7623 on: January 17, 2017, 12:32:49 PM »
I traced the route from that video the Plymouth fan posted and it looks like they're somewhere around the carpark at the bottom centre right. The route goes through the conference room then along the corridor to the left of the away changing rooms then left where it says 'Players, officials & team staff before turning right down the tunnel to the pitch. When I have time I'll do a better check of using the post match footage (counting ceiling tiles etc) and do a mark up.

In light of the previous comments about completion it suggests that the tunnel cam view is showing a tiny proportion of the back of house facilities - primarily corridor areas with ceiling tiles waiting to go in.

That plan can't be the latest as there are a few details out of place.

*edit - that looks like the planning drawing for ground level. There were definitely changes from that as the retail store is now being built next to the Albert.  I;m not sure if there's an updated scheme in the public domain.

I don't think we were given an updated version once it was announced the retail store would be outside of the stand itself. So no clarification on what that retail space is now going to be used for.

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« Reply #7624 on: January 17, 2017, 08:16:09 PM »
So we don't know what will be going in place of the retail store on the plans?

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« Reply #7625 on: January 17, 2017, 08:42:48 PM »
I thought it was still a store and they're just adding another store which will be open on non match days and have a cafe etc for the tourists.

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« Reply #7626 on: January 17, 2017, 08:54:28 PM »
Would be ridiculous to have the big new one, the Kop one and the new one in the Main Stand.

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Re: Main Stand Expansion (U/C) Pics and Progress in here
« Reply #7627 on: January 18, 2017, 05:02:10 PM »
So we don't know what will be going in place of the retail store on the plans?
If I remember correct the shop was supposed to be in the corner of the new main stand nearest the KOP.
It is now the access point for the upper tier concourse. The escalators are where the shop was going to be.

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« Reply #7628 on: January 18, 2017, 05:09:55 PM »
If I remember correct the shop was supposed to be in the corner of the new main stand nearest the KOP.
It is now the access point for the upper tier concourse. The escalators are where the shop was going to be.

It was meant to be under the podium. Last I saw it the location of the doors was blocked up so assumed the space wasn't in use at all yet.

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« Reply #7629 on: January 19, 2017, 11:44:48 AM »
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« Reply #7630 on: January 19, 2017, 02:38:18 PM »
So yeah, as I've been saying and as is blatantly obvious from the tunnel cam videos and the like, the internals won't be finished until mid March. Players have requested to use the temp changies until the end of the season.

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« Reply #7631 on: January 19, 2017, 02:51:28 PM »
So yeah, as I've been saying and as is blatantly obvious from the tunnel cam videos and the like, the internals won't be finished until mid March. Players have requested to use the temp changies until the end of the season.

if the players request is all you're going on, that is still no evidence of your spurious claim (guess).

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« Reply #7632 on: January 19, 2017, 02:58:40 PM »
if the players request is all you're going on, that is still no evidence of your spurious claim (guess).

You're forgetting the tunnel cam and his ability to see through solid walls.

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« Reply #7633 on: January 19, 2017, 03:06:15 PM »
No guesswork here. Mid March for the internals to be complete with the players using the temporary changing rooms until the end of the season. If everything was to be complete by the end of Jan you would see a lot more going on behind the scenes than what we do at the moment. I'm sure this will be backed up when we get to around 2 weeks before completion in march and we can see the progress.

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« Reply #7634 on: January 19, 2017, 03:10:35 PM »
No guesswork here. Mid March for the internals to be complete with the players using the temporary changing rooms until the end of the season. If everything was to be complete by the end of Jan you would see a lot more going on behind the scenes than what we do at the moment. I'm sure this will be backed up when we get to around 2 weeks before completion in march and we can see the progress.

Fuckin hell, how many times have you said this now? 10? Aren't you bored of yourself yet?

So you have no evidence except that you will one day have evidence in the future, because you've said it a lot of times. But it's not a guess

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« Reply #7635 on: January 19, 2017, 03:25:22 PM »
Fuckin hell, how many times have you said this now? 10? Aren't you bored of yourself yet?

So you have no evidence except that you will one day have evidence in the future, because you've said it a lot of times. But it's not a guess
Calm down lad. Your the one who claims I'm guessing. That's your assumption. I've been told by someone who works at the club that mid March is when the work will be complete. This backs up my claim. That's all.

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« Reply #7636 on: January 19, 2017, 03:39:01 PM »
Calm down lad. Your the one who claims I'm guessing. That's your assumption. I've been told by someone who works at the club that mid March is when the work will be complete. This backs up my claim. That's all.

So you admit you pretended you worked this out based on tunnel cams? When actually it was based on the claim of someone at the club. Was only claiming you were guessing based on your previous messages.

And you originally said it wouldn't be til next season, but now it's March. Cheers for passing on the info

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« Reply #7637 on: January 19, 2017, 03:58:34 PM »
No I didn't pretend anything. I made my own assumptions based on the tunnel cams as I thought if we are so close to completion we would see a lot more of the tunnel etc taking shape. Today I sought clarification from the club and my assumptions were confirmed.

Depends how you define 'complete' if you want to say end of the season or mid March as club contact said tunnel and that done by mid march but players still using temp changies until end of the season. Although I assume it's just a case of removing the portacabins.

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« Reply #7638 on: January 19, 2017, 03:58:56 PM »
In any case I'm really looking forward to seeing the final tunnel design!

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« Reply #7639 on: January 19, 2017, 05:28:21 PM »
In any case I'm really looking forward to seeing the final tunnel design!

Is the tunnel design that important? 

Surely the actual layout, fascilities, flow of the interiors is more important than a space used to get from one area to another? 

Or am I missing something?