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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4960 on: May 17, 2019, 01:35:33 PM »
Aren't you elated rather than afraid?
Not really, as I am quite fond of Barcelona, actually...

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4961 on: May 17, 2019, 01:45:14 PM »
Allegri to Barca then?

Seems to be the obvious fit.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4962 on: May 17, 2019, 01:52:40 PM »
Allegri to Barca then?

Seems to be the obvious fit.
Nope, I am not sure he can win the CL with even Barcelona.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4963 on: May 17, 2019, 01:59:41 PM »
Griezman is not in the top 5-10 players in the world.
Just strikers/forwards:
1. Messi
2. Suarez
3. Mane
4. Salah
5. Sterling
6. Aguero
7. Ronaldo
8. Dybala
9. Icardi
10. Mbappe
11. Neymar
12. Aubameyang
13. Lewandowski
14. Jadon Sanchez

This is just off the top of my head....


No Lord Sir Harry Kane?

He'll be proper naffed off.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4964 on: May 17, 2019, 02:09:06 PM »

No Lord Sir Harry Kane?

He'll be proper naffed off.

Or Rashford.  Or Jesse Lingard.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4965 on: May 17, 2019, 02:35:22 PM »
Or Rashford.  Or Jesse Lingard.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4966 on: May 17, 2019, 04:52:58 PM »
This is not a great list to be honest and I hope it's not listed in order.  Griezmann is better then everyone on that list with the exception of Messi, Neymar, and maybe Mbappe.


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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4967 on: May 17, 2019, 04:58:37 PM »
Griezman is not in the top 5-10 players in the world.
Just strikers/forwards:
1. Messi
2. Suarez
3. Mane
4. Salah
5. Sterling
6. Aguero
7. Ronaldo
8. Dybala
9. Icardi
10. Mbappe
11. Neymar
12. Aubameyang
13. Lewandowski
14. Jadon Sanchez

This is just off the top of my head....

You missed out Harry Kane.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4968 on: May 17, 2019, 05:13:26 PM »
You missed out Harry Kane.

... and James Norwood  8)

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4969 on: May 17, 2019, 05:34:35 PM »
You missed out Harry Kane.

And Harry Winks...
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4970 on: May 17, 2019, 05:59:52 PM »
Better looking than Samie.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4971 on: May 17, 2019, 06:04:55 PM »
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4972 on: May 17, 2019, 07:33:06 PM »
Anyone see this from Sam Wallace of the Telegrapgh wondering just how Barcelona are going to actually afford it?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/05/15/antoine-griezmann-sold-barcelona-atletico-madrid-fine-going/

Some interesting things in there about their accounts if he's right, and I don't consider him a shit-stirrer.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4973 on: May 17, 2019, 09:20:59 PM »
Anyone see this from Sam Wallace of the Telegrapgh wondering just how Barcelona are going to actually afford it?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/05/15/antoine-griezmann-sold-barcelona-atletico-madrid-fine-going/

Some interesting things in there about their accounts if he's right, and I don't consider him a shit-stirrer.
Both Barca had Real are about to begin expensive stadium rebuilds too.  £600m or so for the camp nou.

It must be forgotten that Real sold Ronaldo last year because they had to balance the books.  It wasn’t a purely football decision.

Both clubs want to commence on an enormous rebuilding projects, but neither will find that easy to do.

Barca will look to sell countinho I’m sure, but in some ways Dembele has been even more of a disappointment.

They’ve spent the best part of £250m on failures.

And neither club can really compete with the top PL clubs right now as their gargantuan wage bills are eating up all their cash.


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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4974 on: May 17, 2019, 11:06:39 PM »
Both Barca had Real are about to begin expensive stadium rebuilds too.  £600m or so for the camp nou.

It must be forgotten that Real sold Ronaldo last year because they had to balance the books.  It wasn’t a purely football decision.

Both clubs want to commence on an enormous rebuilding projects, but neither will find that easy to do.

Barca will look to sell countinho I’m sure, but in some ways Dembele has been even more of a disappointment.

They’ve spent the best part of £250m on failures.

And neither club can really compete with the top PL clubs right now as their gargantuan wage bills are eating up all their cash.


Lol

Have Real anything left they can sell to the Spanish Government?

Maybe they can also placate the Catalans by buying something off Barca for a few hundred million Euros.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4975 on: May 18, 2019, 12:44:17 AM »

They’ve spent the best part of £250m on failures.

And neither club can really compete with the top PL clubs right now as their gargantuan wage bills are eating up all their cash.

Lol

Well to be fair weve gone and splashed the best part of Kevin Stewart on Robbo, and a full what was it 37? on Mo Salah. crazyness.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4976 on: May 18, 2019, 01:31:52 AM »
Actually think Griezmann is a great player who is made to look meh because of the system he plays in. They don't need him at all though. A better manager than Valverde should be able to get something similar out of Coutinho or Dembele. What they really need to invest in is the midfield and fullbacks. Arthur and De Jong will provide them a great platform to build on if they develop as expected. They probably need one more central midfielder because Vidal, Rakitic and Busquet look finished. I think Erikson would have been a shrewd buy.

Seems like they will trade Umtiti for De Ligt. So they have decent CB's.

Alba is getting old and Sergi Roberto is poor. They need a LB and possibly even a RB if they wanna improve and transition.

A lot depends on the manager they get though. If they had Klopp and we had Valverde we would have lost that tie guaranteed. Since Pep left they seem to fully relying on the "Pass it to the front three" strategy. For all the talk about Barca style of play and Barca DNA they are just a team of individuals at the moment, no different than Real Madrid.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4977 on: May 18, 2019, 03:58:49 AM »
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4978 on: May 18, 2019, 08:49:55 AM »
If Messi ever goes to another club, he should know where it`s happening by now.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4979 on: May 18, 2019, 08:56:45 AM »
Barcelona and Real Madrid sound like a complete mess.

The best thing for Barcelona to do is to release Messi and start over again. This level of debt is unsustainable.

As an Accountant by trade I love how we are run off field financially. Our Accounts are in fabulous shape, we spend what we generate by and large

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4980 on: May 18, 2019, 08:50:35 PM »
Barcelona and Real Madrid sound like a complete mess.

The best thing for Barcelona to do is to release Messi and start over again. This level of debt is unsustainable.

As an Accountant by trade I love how we are run off field financially. Our Accounts are in fabulous shape, we spend what we generate by and large

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4981 on: May 18, 2019, 09:01:13 PM »
They’ll be fine, they’ve got some big new deals that have just kicked in, and the new CL payment method will benefit them given their high coefficient.

As for the stadium, they are going to fund half of it via a naming rights deal (which they’ll prob easily get) so doubt that will be much of an issue.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4982 on: Yesterday at 07:24:19 PM »
Good God, they're so set on getting De Ligt, that we should swoop in and get him simply for the tears it would inspire. Let them know what happens if they tap another one of our players.

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« Reply #4983 on: Yesterday at 07:28:01 PM »
Both Barca had Real are about to begin expensive stadium rebuilds too.  £600m or so for the camp nou.

It must be forgotten that Real sold Ronaldo last year because they had to balance the books.  It wasn’t a purely football decision.

Both clubs want to commence on an enormous rebuilding projects, but neither will find that easy to do.

Barca will look to sell countinho I’m sure, but in some ways Dembele has been even more of a disappointment.

They’ve spent the best part of £250m on failures.

And neither club can really compete with the top PL clubs right now as their gargantuan wage bills are eating up all their cash.


Lol

£150m of which was on a single player.

Lol.


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« Reply #4984 on: Yesterday at 07:29:39 PM »
£150m of which was on a single player.

Lol.



Assuming Coutinho leaves in the summer, we will clear £130-135m depending on the exchange rate used.

Pretty good return that. Huge gap between him and the 4th biggest transfer.
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« Reply #4985 on: Yesterday at 07:32:20 PM »
Assuming Coutinho leaves in the summer, we will clear £130-135m depending on the exchange rate used.

Pretty good return that. Huge gap between him and the 4th biggest transfer.

It's amazing we've actually got most of the fee.  Hard to believe he's actually played that many games for Barca considering.
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« Reply #4986 on: Yesterday at 07:51:04 PM »
It's amazing we've actually got most of the fee.  Hard to believe he's actually played that many games for Barca considering.
Were only missing the fee for 75-100 games.

And probably another £4.5m for progressing inthe CL.


They’ve qualified for the CL twice.  £4.5m each

75 appearances 3*£4.5m

Kerching.

Really good player for us, but he did blow hot and cold and maybe Barca need to be a little more patient to wait for him to blow hot.  If they are getting rid of Valverde then another manager might be the tonic he needs.

Worth remembering that their first offer was £75m paid over five years. I suspect that they are still paying over five years but we’ve screwed them hard.

The Nike leak cost them €10m in itself.
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« Reply #4987 on: Yesterday at 08:38:46 PM »
Griezmann is world class. A good replacement for a 32 year old Suarez.
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« Reply #4988 on: Yesterday at 08:44:47 PM »
Were only missing the fee for 75-100 games.

And probably another £4.5m for progressing inthe CL.


They’ve qualified for the CL twice.  £4.5m each

75 appearances 3*£4.5m

Kerching.

Really good player for us, but he did blow hot and cold and maybe Barca need to be a little more patient to wait for him to blow hot.  If they are getting rid of Valverde then another manager might be the tonic he needs.

Worth remembering that their first offer was £75m paid over five years. I suspect that they are still paying over five years but we’ve screwed them hard.

The Nike leak cost them €10m in itself.

Think our playing style enhances all our players' qualities to the point that if you take any single player out and put them in a different team they're never quite as good.  Coutinho was never going to shine at Barca the same way he shone for us.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #4989 on: Yesterday at 09:00:51 PM »
Were only missing the fee for 75-100 games.

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That was my understanding too, can someone else confirm it? I thought we are only £4.5m short of the £146m.
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