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« Reply #15520 on: July 31, 2020, 03:34:56 PM »
I'm assuming you mean in the cases of those countries seeking to buy a particular club as otherwise you instantly open things up for the whataboutism of individual from a place that does shitty stuff so why should they be allowed to buy a club.

I'd actually skip the part about human rights records and simplify it further, if you are a state-owned entity (investment arm or whatever) then you don't get to buy a club.

it’s a sporting team at the end of the day, it’s mind boggling to me the fact that people are ok with emirate states and (almost) the kingdom of Saudi Arabia being owners of clubs. Yes you can take it further and find shit on most owners, but you don’t have to look far when it comes to imprisoning (and worse) people for being gay, for murdering jouranlists, for torturing people, for being absolutely fine with slavery, for making women 3rd class citizens.

But hey, my views are simple, and based in the runnings of another league where it’s (almost) impossible to have scummy owners. I hate how the premier league has been going for a long time. And a big part of that is the acceptance of owners such as Abu Dhabi and Roman Abramovich.
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« Reply #15521 on: July 31, 2020, 03:59:01 PM »
Making the right decision without making a decision you mean?

Well, I’m assuming they have the Saudis a chance to save face by withdrawing rather than being rejected.

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« Reply #15522 on: July 31, 2020, 04:00:35 PM »
that fact that there’s even a chance these scumbags can own clubs in the prem is the biggest disgrace here.

It should be a simple process - if your nation/state has a vile human rights record - process ends there and then.

There should be a rule stating countries/states or heads of countries/states can’t own football clubs.
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« Reply #15523 on: July 31, 2020, 04:01:31 PM »
There should be a rule stating countries/states or heads of countries/states can’t own football clubs.

Precisely
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« Reply #15524 on: July 31, 2020, 04:06:14 PM »
There should be a rule stating countries/states or heads of countries/states can’t own football clubs.

"Hello. This guy here will be the owner of the club.

He is not the head of state. I am. And as you can clearly see he's not a country."
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« Reply #15525 on: July 31, 2020, 04:24:08 PM »
"Hello. This guy here will be the owner of the club.

He is not the head of state. I am. And as you can clearly see he's not a country."

And implement an arms-length rule so that companies an owner is associated with cannot sign deals with clubs.
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« Reply #15526 on: July 31, 2020, 04:33:25 PM »
Now that this deal has fallen, Mike will arrange a deal with North Korea ASAP.

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« Reply #15527 on: July 31, 2020, 04:36:17 PM »
Now that this deal has fallen, Mike will arrange a deal with North Korea ASAP.

He still wants the saudi deal apparently.  ;D

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« Reply #15528 on: July 31, 2020, 04:48:57 PM »
There should be a rule stating countries/states or heads of countries/states can’t own football clubs.

Why is the circumvented by having a puppet owner a step or two away from the real power. That would actually probably help financial doping, as the real owner could then use state owned business to sponsor the club for however much they fancied. They'd get to pump in millions, with no direct connection between state owned business and the puppet owner.

I think the truth is that there is little you can actually do to stop any of this without some form of spending cap. Unfortunately that cap would have to be virtually worldwide or it would not work, and I don't see that happening.

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« Reply #15529 on: July 31, 2020, 05:30:16 PM »
He's abysmal. H&G might have been worse, probably were, but that doesn't stop him being awful. And in terms of their 'boo hoo' they've been complaining about him for years.

They may have complained but carried on filling his stadium and buying their Geordie jeans, geordie jumpers and barcode shirt from sports direct. Didn't he spend more than we did this year? As I said he is a prick but they are full of shite.
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« Reply #15530 on: July 31, 2020, 06:01:03 PM »
Well, I’m assuming they have the Saudis a chance to save face by withdrawing rather than being rejected.

Based on what others have said on here it seemed more like a fear of how the Saudis might respond if they were rejected.  Either way I imagine their ruling class are the type of people who are easily insulted.
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« Reply #15531 on: July 31, 2020, 06:07:23 PM »
Saw a SSN interview with someone who runs a Newcastle United Youtube Channel (apparently his opinion is worth something) whose considered take on the situation was "if you look at any billionaire you'll find bad stuff". I mean jesus christ that is embarrassing. A lot of Newcastle fans have come out of this looking awful.
No one is perfect. But Saudi government must be the one of the few who would fly their own Salamanca brothers to an embassy to chop a disagreeing journalist into multiple pieces.

If Newcastle fans still see such people as worthy owners, there is nothing in the world they won’t agree to.
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« Reply #15532 on: July 31, 2020, 06:47:10 PM »
Saw a SSN interview with someone who runs a Newcastle United Youtube Channel (apparently his opinion is worth something) whose considered take on the situation was "if you look at any billionaire you'll find bad stuff". I mean jesus christ that is embarrassing. A lot of Newcastle fans have come out of this looking awful.

If you look at lots of people you'll find bad stuff, but apparently being a billionaire makes it okay. ::)

Thank fuck Epstein didn't go in for owning football clubs, eh?
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« Reply #15533 on: August 1, 2020, 12:08:05 AM »
True Geordie meltdown was joyous

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« Reply #15534 on: August 1, 2020, 12:11:50 AM »
as happy as I am to see this fall through, there are a couple of points Geordies are making that are real.

* Hypocrisy of allowing Abu Dhabi & Qatar own teams

* Hypocrisy of our nation calling Saudi Arabia an ally & doing business with it

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« Reply #15535 on: August 1, 2020, 12:14:24 AM »
He still wants the saudi deal apparently.  ;D


Maybe he shouldn't have tried to backdoor haggle an extra 50 million out of the deal then.
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« Reply #15536 on: August 1, 2020, 12:33:07 AM »
True Geordie meltdown was joyous


He did a video a year or so ago going on about how he would hate to be another City & praising how we've gone about our business,total fucking hypocrite.
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« Reply #15537 on: August 1, 2020, 12:36:12 AM »
Reading through some of their forums, it sounds as if they absolutely believe that they have some sort of God-given right to get back "to the top." Just because they have a large stadium that they're able to fill to capacity - being the only team from their city sort of helps - doesn't mean that they belong anywhere near the top. They've won fuck all for the last 50-60 odd years and deserve to be near the top as much as a Burnley or a Crystal Palace do.

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« Reply #15538 on: August 1, 2020, 12:36:48 AM »
Just seen that the total fucking nomark dickheads have started a petition.


Murder is ok but not letting a murderous bastard buy their Club is petition worthy.


I so hope Ashley asset strips the c*nts,pockets the 3yr of relegation payments and then sells them to Jordan (the tits not the goat).


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« Reply #15539 on: August 1, 2020, 12:39:21 AM »
Reading through some of their forums, it sounds as if they absolutely believe that they have some sort of God-given right to get back "to the top." Just because they have a large stadium that they're able to fill to capacity - being the only team from their city sort of helps - doesn't mean that they belong anywhere near the top. They've won fuck all for the last 50-60 odd years and deserve to be near the top as much as a Burnley or a Crystal Palace do.

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« Reply #15540 on: August 1, 2020, 12:44:50 AM »
The petition


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After recent events leading to the unsuccessful takeover attempt of Newcastle United, this petition aims to engage the United Kingdom (UK) government in establishing an independent investigation into the English Premier League (EPL) takeover process and Richard Masters who was fundamental in orchestrating the deal.

The takeover negotiations came to a halt on 30th July 2020 after the Saudi backed consortium withdrew their interest with one of the key reasons being the "Prolonged Process". This announcement was released after 4 months without a decision.

Despite the takeover being a confidential process, much of it was played out in the public domain and by the end of the Newcastle United takeover saga, it was apparent that the dispute was only with the Saudi backing due to their apparent human rights and piracy abuses.

However, many of the concerns were initially raised by outside influences who would directly benefit from this particular takeover attempt failing or who already have personal issues with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA). Those groups proceeded to mount a personal attack on Saudi backing by raising piracy and human rights concerns before using the partner of reporter Jamal Khashoggi who has no connection to English football in their efforts.

Mohammed Bin Salman who is the crown prince of Saudi Arabia is an ally of the UK government and Royal Family has been integral in supporting the UK with the outbreak of Covid-19 along with reforming the KSA policies on human rights.

As a result of the EPL's negligence and Qatar influences around the Newcastle takeover, the city of Newcastle has been deprived of some well-needed investment into the local football club as well as the city as a whole. 


C*nts even have the brass neck to bring Khashoggis' Mrs into it,they never fucking used her,she put it out there and begged for them to be rejected.

They're close to becoming my most hated fanbase & anybody who puts their name to that load of shite deserves fuck all out of life.
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« Reply #15541 on: August 1, 2020, 01:52:57 AM »
Just seen that the total fucking nomark dickheads have started a petition.


Murder is ok but not letting a murderous bastard buy their Club is petition worthy.


I so hope Ashley asset strips the c*nts,pockets the 3yr of relegation payments and then sells them to Jordan (the tits not the goat).


Wankers.

The Saudis haven’t even had to buy the club to get the whole fanbase defending them.
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« Reply #15542 on: August 1, 2020, 01:57:51 AM »
True Geordie meltdown was joyous
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« Reply #15543 on: August 1, 2020, 02:28:36 AM »
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« Reply #15544 on: August 1, 2020, 03:36:38 AM »
IMHO

The big 17 week delay, probably had fuck all to do with Human Rights. I doubt the Premier League gave it much of a second thought. But Newcastle supporters are a bit dim to think that was the reason.

It all boiled down to the piracy issue and the PL, the 20 clubs ( including Newcastle), who all lost potential income from the spat between the Saudi's and Qatari's.

I suspect the PL was negotiating, or trying to, a deal for the Saudi's to stop their boycott and pirating of BeIn Sport. The Saudi's rejected that.

As the PL were insistent, the Saudi's pulled the plug and walked out. Just as DIC did to Moores when they threw a strop trying to buy Liverpool.

Edit..Newcastle supporters aren't the only ones a bit dim about Human Rights being the issue with owning a PL Club.

The Fit and Proper clause is all about having the finances to buy the club, take care of debts, and have some money left over to invest. Has, imho, fuck all to do with Human rights or any thing like that. As much as we all would like to think it does. The PL allowed Thaksin Shinawatra in. And his record for Human Rights wasn't sterling.
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« Reply #15545 on: August 1, 2020, 03:54:51 AM »
Based on what others have said on here it seemed more like a fear of how the Saudis might respond if they were rejected.  Either way I imagine their ruling class are the type of people who are easily insulted.
I was thinking the same thing the other day. The PL clearly didn't want them but didn't have the gall to tell Bin Salman "No. With your track record there's no way we can let you buy a club." Let's not forget the Saudis have a history of funding terrorism too. Football has no business getting into bed with them, but I fear we haven't heard the end of this.

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« Reply #15546 on: August 1, 2020, 06:30:58 AM »
Now that this deal has fallen, Mike will arrange a deal with North Korea ASAP.
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« Reply #15547 on: August 1, 2020, 07:53:56 AM »
as happy as I am to see this fall through, there are a couple of points Geordies are making that are real.


* Hypocrisy of our nation calling Saudi Arabia an ally & doing business with it


This isn't the case though is it. The FA and Premier League are not government bodies. The Premier League are having their property stolen by a foreign power. There is no role for our government to play in that dispute. If you think it is hypocritical of the FA to cold shoulder the Saudi regime because they are based in the UK and the UK government are friendly with Saudi Arabia then you must also think that the majority of us who opposed this takeover are also hypocrites because we live in the UK.

I realise what I have just typed is effectively reductio ad absurdum, but the point you agree with is pretty much the same argument put forward by City supporters when they say our owners are just as bad as their's because they come from America and America has an terrible human rights record.

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« Reply #15548 on: August 1, 2020, 08:11:56 AM »
The petition



C*nts even have the brass neck to bring Khashoggis' Mrs into it,they never fucking used her,she put it out there and begged for them to be rejected.

They're close to becoming my most hated fanbase & anybody who puts their name to that load of shite deserves fuck all out of life.

The Royal family bit got me at first but one of the things the respective Royals have (and to be fair to ours they gave up hanging, drawing and quartering a few centuries ago) is a shared love of horses and horse racing.

Maybe the Saudi research into NUFC dug up reports of the infamous horse punching incident? ;D

And what's Covid got to do with it, hey?

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« Reply #15549 on: August 1, 2020, 08:37:00 AM »
True Geordie meltdown was joyous

Just a note that he was previously sponsored by the S*n. Not sure if it's still active, I'm guessing not, but I feel it's enough of a reason to ignore his videos.

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« Reply #15550 on: August 1, 2020, 08:53:07 AM »
Are Attila the Hun and Ghengis Khan stick knocking around? Maybe they could step in? Shame Saddam Hussein and Osama got toppled, they could’ve bought clubs too. These fans clamouring for horrific regimes to buy their clubs are despicable. Surely the PL should’ve seen this coming when they let Abu Dhabi buy manc city?

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« Reply #15551 on: August 1, 2020, 09:12:32 AM »
You’ve got to respect how they’ve really doubled down on the cringe. Petitions, crying that the PL ‘don’t want to upset the big clubs apple cart’, threatening to give up football because they haven’t been allowed to be taken over by a sovereign state that still beheads people.

If Mike Ashley is the businessman he thinks he is he’ll start selling protest tshirts in Sports Direct with Saudi Arabia flags and murdered journalists on
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« Reply #15552 on: August 1, 2020, 09:47:54 AM »
The Saudis haven’t even had to buy the club to get the whole fanbase defending them.

Sportwashing you might say.  ;)

Throw the plebs some coin and they'll do/say anything for you.
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« Reply #15553 on: August 1, 2020, 09:52:17 AM »
You’ve got to respect how they’ve really doubled down on the cringe. Petitions, crying that the PL ‘don’t want to upset the big clubs apple cart’, threatening to give up football because they haven’t been allowed to be taken over by a sovereign state that still beheads people.

If Mike Ashley is the businessman he thinks he is he’ll start selling protest tshirts in Sports Direct with Saudi Arabia flags and murdered journalists on

I'm sure Catshit is writing his latest tome starting on how the Sky Six are strangling the smaller clubs and culminating in firmly placing the blame on LFC and Lawrence of Arabia (just to reinforce his credentials as an intellectual).

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« Reply #15555 on: August 1, 2020, 10:51:59 AM »
Sunderland are the biggest Club in the N.East.

Well I'm not sure that's the case, but their fans are certainly a lot more self deprecating than their Toon counterparts. The Mackams haven't had much to shout about recently, but I dipped into a couple of their fans forums yesterday and it's fair to say they're enjoying the moment  :)

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« Reply #15556 on: August 1, 2020, 10:57:43 AM »
Amanda Staveley’s inability to close a takeover deal hardly puts her in good light if she wants to be heading up a “super club” and the bells and whistles that brings. Her 0-4 record is in line with Newcastle though.

I find it amazing, absolutely amazing how having some money thrown at your club and possibly winning trophies kills your moral compass and you accept all sorts of shite and actually become a defender of someone who presides over some of the worse things happening in the word. It is bizarre but also scary how powerful the sportswashing can go. Its apparent why they target smaller clubs or those bot at the very top as they’d definitely get less Blinded loyalty. Hopefully the PL stay resolute in this. The signs since PIF pulled out suggest Staveley and Ashley are keen for it to happen and keeping the charm offensive, etc

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« Reply #15557 on: August 1, 2020, 11:14:29 AM »
Well I'm not sure that's the case, but their fans are certainly a lot more self deprecating than their Toon counterparts. The Mackams haven't had much to shout about recently, but I dipped into a couple of their fans forums yesterday and it's fair to say they're enjoying the moment  :)


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« Reply #15558 on: August 1, 2020, 01:28:58 PM »
Amanda Staveley’s inability to close a takeover deal hardly puts her in good light if she wants to be heading up a “super club” and the bells and whistles that brings. Her 0-4 record is in line with Newcastle though.

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« Reply #15559 on: August 2, 2020, 04:26:15 AM »
Can’t sleep tonight, but it’s paid off because I’ve learned that contrary to received wisdom, Newcastle do have a modern honour - outright winners of the Intertoto Cup in 2006.

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for the first time in the modern history of the competition, n outright winner was highlighted from the 11 co-winners of the Cup, with that honour going to the final-round Intertoto winner that advanced farthest in the UEFA Cup ... Captain Scott Parker was presented with a certificate commemorating the triumph at St James Park before their tie with AZ.

• Newcastle United (Overall winners) (Round of 16, lost to AZ)
How could I have forgotten this.