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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13840 on: June 25, 2019, 08:23:21 AM »
Oh and fucking state of Danny Murphy. He really didn't like Rafa. Looked like he enjoyed sticking the knife in yesterday

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13841 on: June 25, 2019, 08:28:58 AM »
Oh and fucking state of Danny Murphy. He really didn't like Rafa. Looked like he enjoyed sticking the knife in yesterday

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13842 on: June 25, 2019, 08:29:50 AM »
Oh and fucking state of Danny Murphy. He really didn't like Rafa. Looked like he enjoyed sticking the knife in yesterday

"Until the facts are actually out, it is hard to hypothesise and say Newcastle are not being ambitious.

"I think there could be some ulterior reasons as to why he has left, if he has had a better offer which is highly likely."

Hypocrite much.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13843 on: June 25, 2019, 08:54:42 AM »
Possibly. Think he likes the day to day grind of management though and would prefer to stay in England. His stock in this country's certainly gone up since he went to Newcastle after it didn't work out in Madrid. Heck, I'd say it's as high as it's been since he was with us and possibly even moreso given everyone generally seems to be on board with him.
It may have gone up with fans but I think owners will be as wary of him as they were before: his reputation for calling out failing hierarchies isn't popular with those who hold the purse strings. That was the real reason Purslow sacked him in the middle of Broughton's hawking us round the world, I think. That was one reason a manager of his ability ended up at Newcastle in the first place. (No offence to our Black & White RAWKites, but you were punching above your current weight when you landed him).

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13844 on: June 25, 2019, 09:12:15 AM »
I wasn't talking about the managers role, but surely a role could be found for Rafa.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13845 on: June 25, 2019, 09:31:23 AM »
a breakfast roll maybe



I reckon he's a simple man with simple tastes. Like, maybe ham and cheese?
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13846 on: June 25, 2019, 09:47:47 AM »
He's not pissing away anything though.  It makes him money; it doesn't cost him any money.  Fan boycotts and relegation just means he makes a bit less money out of the club than he otherwise might do.  Frankly he's already sucked so much out of the club they're borderline on being uncompetitive, and I don't think he's going to stop.  He'll keep taking the cash regardless.

I can't see any circumstances under which he will fuck off, unless he chooses to go.

He is akin to a slumlord that rents out a house, never doing any repairs, just collecting the rent, when if he invested 20k in the house he could sell it for double what he bought it for.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13847 on: June 25, 2019, 10:10:47 AM »
Oh and fucking state of Danny Murphy. He really didn't like Rafa. Looked like he enjoyed sticking the knife in yesterday

Murphy is a horrible little shyte who is stealing a living as a "pundit".
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - now with added Benitez
« Reply #13848 on: June 25, 2019, 10:16:16 AM »
Absolutely scandalous isn't it?

It's worse than that.

Without doubt that fat twat's biggest mistake and if he is still owner then I hope we go down and he loses a fortune.

I'm totally gutted - even though his contract was up - I still hoped something could be sorted.

Not only he is a fantastic manager but he is a wonderful human being who got the Club and City.

A complete criminal waste.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13849 on: June 25, 2019, 10:19:14 AM »
"Until the facts are actually out, it is hard to hypothesise and say Newcastle are not being ambitious.

"I think there could be some ulterior reasons as to why he has left, if he has had a better offer which is highly likely."

Hypocrite much.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13850 on: June 25, 2019, 10:40:49 AM »
Anyone think he should take the job at Derby county if Lampard goes to Chelsea?
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13851 on: June 25, 2019, 10:50:23 AM »
Anyone think he should take the job at Derby county if Lampard goes to Chelsea?

Closer to Liverpool than Newcastle is, he might consider them for that reason.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13852 on: June 25, 2019, 10:50:46 AM »
It may have gone up with fans but I think owners will be as wary of him as they were before: his reputation for calling out failing hierarchies isn't popular with those who hold the purse strings. That was the real reason Purslow sacked him in the middle of Broughton's hawking us round the world, I think. That was one reason a manager of his ability ended up at Newcastle in the first place. (No offence to our Black & White RAWKites, but you were punching above your current weight when you landed him).

Yeah true, he's certainly had history with owners. I know he doesn't want to but him doing a Bielsa with Leeds (but actually getting promoted) would be interesting.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13853 on: June 25, 2019, 10:51:39 AM »
Anyone think he should take the job at Derby county if Lampard goes to Chelsea?
no way

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13854 on: June 25, 2019, 10:52:16 AM »
no way

a job will show up somewhere down the line

Brighton should be kicking themselves for not waiting.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13855 on: June 25, 2019, 10:53:48 AM »
Wow, Rafa's had some shocking luck in terms of owners. H&G, Abramovich, Perez, Ashley.

Hopefully, for his sake, he can find a job with an owner who can properly back him and he can show how great he truly is.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13856 on: June 25, 2019, 10:59:41 AM »
Playing Devils advocate for a moment

Is it possible Rafa was asking for too much money and with a fat lucrative offer on the table from China he asked the Geordie's for too much dough?

This said, you'd think Ashley would give him what he wanted after him keeping them in the Premier League and would very more than likely do so again this season.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13857 on: June 25, 2019, 11:11:19 AM »
Playing Devils advocate for a moment

Is it possible Rafa was asking for too much money and with a fat lucrative offer on the table from China he asked the Geordie's for too much dough?

This said, you'd think Ashley would give him what he wanted after him keeping them in the Premier League and would very more than likely do so again this season.

Possible Rafa wanted more. But if its Ashley vs Rafa, I think we could safely guess who would be at fault.

Plus, if Rafa wanted more to improve on the league standing, then Ashley would have to support it. Because a negative net spend doesnt speak much of owner support.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13858 on: June 25, 2019, 12:24:37 PM »
Playing Devils advocate for a moment

Is it possible Rafa was asking for too much money and with a fat lucrative offer on the table from China he asked the Geordie's for too much dough?

This said, you'd think Ashley would give him what he wanted after him keeping them in the Premier League and would very more than likely do so again this season.

No chance - he's been desperate to stay and has looked for one re albeit he has had numerous reasons to leaves due to how they twats have messed him about.

He wanted more control of singings but the wanker wouldn't let him sign Rondon as he's nearly 30. He wanted improvements to the training ground and academy which are a shambles but again the twat wouldn't do them.

In and ideal world, a takeover happens and he is reappointed. In our shitty Mike Ashley world, that parasite is owner and Tim Sherwood is our next manager.

It's criminal.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13859 on: June 25, 2019, 12:31:53 PM »
Anyone think he should take the job at Derby county if Lampard goes to Chelsea?
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13860 on: June 25, 2019, 12:54:27 PM »
That fuckin chip on his shoulder  ;D
I thought that was his head?
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13861 on: June 25, 2019, 12:58:52 PM »
Wondering will Derby go for Gerard

Even if they did, I don't think he'd consider it now, he's already building his squad for the up-coming season, plus I reckon Gerrard really fancies winning that league next season and stopping Celtic's run! One more good season in Scotland, and then he'll make a move.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13862 on: June 25, 2019, 01:04:05 PM »
Just over three weeks ago, there was a palpable though repressed gasp of relief on Tyneside as news began to surface that an investment firm in the Middle East was on the brink of taking over Newcastle United. Just days earlier, a feeling of optimism had coursed through the streets of the city after promising contract discussions between the much-adored manager, Rafa Benítez, and the woeful owner, Mike Ashley.

The masterly and reassuringly calm presence of the Spaniard looked increasingly likely to stay, as his boss – though more often than not, adversary – appeared finally to be on his way out. There was therefore a sense of astonishment that accompanied news on Monday that Benítez, after three and a half years of unrelenting graft and unrewarded loyalty, was to depart the club. A disagreement in vision between Ashley – an owner sculpted in the vision of a footballing Scrooge – and the manager was the cause for the split.

Benítez bows out after collision of control freaks at Newcastle


While many fans knew it was always a possibility that Benítez would leave – 12 years of Ashley has desensitised us – few were truly braced for what came, and nor too was Benítez, supposedly. Such is obvious from the utterly deflated atmosphere in the city, the response from club legends Alan Shearer and Robbie Elliott, and the mood, dare I say it, on social media.
When good things come to an end, it seems fitting that you look back on their beginnings. And there is no doubting that Benítez’s arrival on Tyneside was special. Having won trophies including a Champions League, two Uefa Cups/Europa Leagues, two La Liga titles and an FA Cup, you would be forgiven for thinking Newcastle United was an outlier on an otherwise glittering CV.


The truth is – and this is exactly what endeared him to so many – he saw the value in the project, the fans, the unrealised potential of a club that had been cut adrift for too long. The aim was not to compete with clubs such as Manchester City or Chelsea – the ambition Ashley constantly ascribes to the fans – but to return some modicum of pride to a club that had for too long been paralysed by underinvestment and short-sightedness.
For more than three years he battled to realise that ambition, lifting an honest and downtrodden team back from the Championship and, with minimal investment, defying expectations to twice keep them in the Premier League, with an overall net spend of minus £11.2m. His gritty style earned famous victories against Manchester United, Manchester City, Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal; arguably no manager has done more with less.

Carrying on the charity work he was known for at Liverpool, Benítez has forged a deep connection with the community in Newcastle. From supporting the NUFC Foodbank and the Sir Bobby Robson Foundation, to attending the disabled supporters’ association the day he signed a new deal, the man was a class act on and off the pitch. The city stands to lose so much more than a managerial hero.
Behind the scenes, controversy has engulfed the club in the years Ashley has been in the north-east. This summer he had already overseen a raft of abuses: the new Puma home shirt, at a mind-boggling £65, is the most expensive in English football. Coupled with that, and amid massive annual TV revenues, the club found little shame in raising season-ticket prices by 5%. Elsewhere, a revamp of the directors’ box at St James Park, a stadium physically scarred by years of neglect and scrimping, and consequently band-aided with Sports Direct advertising, is emblematic of where priorities lie at the club.
However, Benítez’s departure is conceivably the worst thing that has happened here, supplanting Robson’s sacking and both of Keegan’s resignations. We were an established Premier League club then, challenging at the right end of the table. Without a manager like Benítez, we run the risk of going and never coming back.
Already, odds have been massively shortened for the club to go down which, and when you look at some of the names being mentioned as Benítez’s successor in the media, such as Avram Grant and Michael Appleton – yes, you are reading that correctly – it is unsurprising.

That Benítez, who embodied the undying spirit and resilience of the club, has been allowed to leave sends the clearest message yet that this regime has been, and will continue to be, guided by unscrupulous avarice and self-serving pig-headedness. It sends a message to the hundreds of thousands of doting supporters whose hard-earned money has been spent on following their team up and down the country, across Europe and further afield, that they simply do not care. At best, they are downright ignorant as to what is in front of them.
Barring a journey across the Tyne and a few miles south to Sunderland, whatever Benítez chooses to do next, he will have the full support of Newcastle fans. I would like to think few would fault him for his departure – a dignified refusal to play the puppet Ashley wanted of him – and he will for ever, regretfully, be remembered as the one that got away.
If there were to be one silver lining in the thick dark clouds that have hung over Newcastle United over the past 12 years, it is that the man who oversaw these evidently catastrophic renewal talks with Benítez may well be following him out of the door soon enough. Ashley supposedly remains in talks with several potential purchasers, including the Dubai-based billionaire Sheikh Khaled bin Zayed al-Nahyan of the United Arab Emirates.

That said, the club arguably derived so much of its present value – what Ashley deems to be £350m – from its manager and what he represented; he was the pride of the club, upon whom our survival in the Premier League has been reliant, and upon whom our imagined future rested. With Benítez gone, it’s plausible the investors’ interest will drop off.
And in the wings, the fans will be left, as they often have been under this regime, with a sense of nothingness. Pre-season starts in 10 days: no manager, no signings, no hope.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13863 on: June 25, 2019, 01:13:00 PM »
Fuck but that's bleak.

If anyone knows how you feel it's us Liverpool fans. The North remembers.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13864 on: June 25, 2019, 01:21:25 PM »
Fuck but that's bleak.

If anyone knows how you feel it's us Liverpool fans. The North remembers.

Bollox to that, Newcastle are the Boltons in this analogy.

They've been belting out 'sign on' like a gang of Chelsea twats for the last few years. Of all the teams to sing it too.

Hope they get relegated.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13865 on: June 25, 2019, 01:54:04 PM »

'Sad departure of Rafa Benítez says everything about Newcastle’s woes':-

Owner Mike Ashley’s decision to let manager go is a further sign of a club paralysed by short-sightedness and underinvestment

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/25/rafa-benitez-departure-newcastle-mike-ashley


^ doh! Paully already posted it above  :-[
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13866 on: June 25, 2019, 02:12:07 PM »
Bollox to that, Newcastle are the Boltons in this analogy.

They've been belting out 'sign on' like a gang of Chelsea twats for the last few years. Of all the teams to sing it too.

Hope they get relegated.

very frustrating bunch of supporters indeed, aside from  Rafa i genuinely  have no reason  to like them.  Lets be clear, no problem with the club but there always seems to be a noise coming from  supporters , bizarrely as if they are something special.    Hope they  go down now without  Ashley  selling  the club, so he gets lumbered with a huge potential loss of fee on  the sale.
Perversely this may help the club regroup and come again. The supporters may not  see it like that but i can see no other option for them.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13867 on: June 25, 2019, 02:22:26 PM »
Well his family does live in Liverpool and that's the closest he'll get to the job.

Wirral actually, so he's a wool.  ;D

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« Reply #13868 on: June 25, 2019, 02:25:19 PM »
Anyone think he should take the job at Derby county if Lampard goes to Chelsea?
There's only one Championship club that's right for Rafa, but Bielsa isn't going anywhere.

Rafa should take his time over his next move. He's made some bad club choices, possibly because the man loves football so much he can't stand being out for very long so perhaps rushes a bit too quickly into jobs. He needs a well-run club for once! I was thinking the other week that Wolves or Watford would suit him, when there was talk about Nuno and Gracia being candidates for Chelsea, but Lampard is going there now so those jobs probably won't open up. Southampton, Palace and Leicester would also be good but again, those jobs aren't available.


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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13869 on: June 25, 2019, 02:28:19 PM »
 "the fans will be left, as they often have been under this regime, with a sense of nothingness. Pre-season starts in 10 days: no manager, no signings, no hope."

grim
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13870 on: June 25, 2019, 02:29:31 PM »
"the fans will be left, as they often have been under this regime, with a sense of nothingness. Pre-season starts in 10 days: no manager, no signings, no hope."

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Maybe the supporters should do something about it?

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13871 on: June 25, 2019, 02:31:52 PM »
Maybe the supporters should do something about it?
yep. we keep saying this in here

here we have a club with a wankstain owner who has just let slip a top class manager through his hands and has the cheek to up season ticket prices, revamp his box in the ground (as well as the club having the dearest shirt about).

Seriously why would a season ticket holder pay up again.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13872 on: June 25, 2019, 02:43:23 PM »
For me it was his demand for more transfer money, Ashleys not having any of that, he like "Look, i bought a guy just last January, perfectly good MLS striker, and now you want more? Get out"

Perfectly reasonable, really, i mean he only made a million 5 and a half seasons wages off the whole Mitrovic/Almiron flip. moneys tight you know.
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« Reply #13873 on: June 25, 2019, 02:49:12 PM »
And I thought it was depressing to be an Arsenal fan lately - those Newcastle lads have really got it going against them these days.  No manager, shocking dickhead of an owner and in theory one of the best fanbases in the league yet seemingly destined to spend another year in limbo fighting relegation and milking the premier league money.  Awful.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13874 on: June 25, 2019, 02:56:11 PM »
yep. we keep saying this in here

here we have a club with a wankstain owner who has just let slip a top class manager through his hands and has the cheek to up season ticket prices, revamp his box in the ground (as well as the club having the dearest shirt about).

Seriously why would a season ticket holder pay up again.

They really need to take proper action. A complete boycott of the opening home game of the season, picketing sports direct shops and that is just for starters. They need to get properly mobilised and hit the shithouse where it really hurts him
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13875 on: June 25, 2019, 02:59:07 PM »
They really need to take proper action. A complete boycott of the opening home game of the season, picketing sports direct shops and that is just for starters. They need to get properly mobilised and hit the shithouse where it really hurts him
yep. not much has been done

as a sticker on a fellas desk in work once said

"if you always do what you always did you will always get what you always got"

12 years they've had of it
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13876 on: June 25, 2019, 04:07:12 PM »
I'm being dead serious, and I have barely been there but I think it makes sense. But if I was the Arabs and wanted a club on the cheap that had potential, then I'd buy Birmingham City.

Because of the brand name Birmingham, as well as all the redevelopments there, HS2 etc and the Commonwealth Games, there is so much potential there.

I always saw Newcastle as the number one choice of that criteria, but after recent events, I've given up thinking it will ever happen for them.

And it's Rafa that has suffered, which makes me really infuriated.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13877 on: June 25, 2019, 04:12:13 PM »
Ashley wants more for Newcastle than FSG paid for Liverpool  :lmao
Jürgen Klopp does not adapt to English Football.  English Football adapts to Jurgan Klopp.

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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13878 on: June 25, 2019, 04:16:04 PM »
yep. we keep saying this in here

here we have a club with a wankstain owner who has just let slip a top class manager through his hands and has the cheek to up season ticket prices, revamp his box in the ground (as well as the club having the dearest shirt about).

Seriously why would a season ticket holder pay up again.

Same reason Rafa keeps taking shit jobs - love the game too much.
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Re: General Newcastle United thread - Benitez on his way
« Reply #13879 on: June 25, 2019, 04:35:33 PM »
Same reason Rafa keeps taking shit jobs - love the game too much.

Yep, like those of us who sat in 1/4 empty Anfield against Bolton when Roy was at the wheel.  As soon as gate revenue was affected the Owl was fucked off a week later.  Fair play to the lads who did their talking with their feet and stayed away but if going to the footy IS life then its very hard.

The cancers had already been replaced by Fenway and we were halfway there by that time.

When it comes to Football clubs losing money then things get done

Patience Newcastle fans. Your day will come.  Either vote with your feet or at least get a good song going each week to express your disgust.

They Don't care about Rafa
They Don't care about Fans
Liverpool football club
Its in the wrong hands

Simple but was sung loud and every game without fail in the dark days.