Incest occurs in nature. So does pedophilia. None of those I count as natural.
And before the PC brigade attacks me, not comparing homosexuality with either of those 2 vile things but just arguing against the '____ occurs in nature so it is natural' argument which, with apologies to my fellow Israelophile friend Refo, I find quite stupid.
This is exactly what I hate about pseudo-liberals. Patronizing beyond belief but haven't half a clue of what they are talking about.
Lets examine those two examples Una.
Pedophilia:
Obviously (At least in our modern western society, I cant speak for the psychology of ancient Greek kids where the practice was socially acceptable but I digress...) having sex with a child is damaging to that child's psychology. Can scar him/her for life. That's why its wrong; whether its natural or not doesn't come into the discussion, but yeah, technically speaking its natural.
Incest:
Damaging to the offspring of the incestuous couple, and even hunter gatherer societies often try to mate as far away from their family lines as possible. That is also probably the root cause of the social stigma surrounding it. Is it natural? Well we've naturally developed an aversion to it, but if someone has an urge to bang his sister, its not exactly his fault. Its probably not all that bad, to be honest, as long as he doesn't act on that urge, because that act would cause damage to all the parties involved.
But really it all boils down to:
unconsensual sex: natural, but wrong.
consensual sex: natural, sometimes strange, but OK.
edit:
of course what consensual means is debatable, but that's for another time
PS. Like so many Jews, I'm an atheist Una. And I'm only an Israelophile on these boards, lol. I should really get my crazy right wing לכודנק likudnik friend on Rawk, he'd cause quite a stir. Probably get banned in a few minutes after calling everyone anti-semites and explaining that Israel should just "wait for a war, and move all the Arabs, simples", the daft c*nt, bless his heart, hope he doesn't get into politics, he's trying to do just that. Oh and he's a good, standards corrupted shirt buying red. People are complex.