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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3360 on: July 16, 2019, 02:54:08 PM »
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3361 on: July 18, 2019, 11:47:00 AM »
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« Reply #3362 on: July 20, 2019, 04:37:17 PM »
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3363 on: July 22, 2019, 10:30:58 AM »
Below is a link to a book that can be downloaded. It's illustrated with water-colours and has a well-written narrative.

https://ia802700.us.archive.org/4/items/liverpool00scot/liverpool00scot.pdf
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3364 on: August 8, 2019, 10:09:02 PM »
Just seen this posted by a mate of mine on Facebook, all the fields in the background are Broadway I think? This is where I park on matchdays now!

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« Reply #3365 on: August 8, 2019, 10:15:12 PM »
That's a superb pic mate, I can't see the date?

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3366 on: August 8, 2019, 10:16:44 PM »
That's a superb pic mate, I can't see the date?
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« Reply #3367 on: August 8, 2019, 10:24:17 PM »
Ta mate, fascinating isn't it.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3368 on: August 8, 2019, 10:33:38 PM »
Ta mate, fascinating isn't it.
It certainly is  :)
Look at all that farmland that's now been built on.
Considering we had Vikings in Liverpool ( Croxteth and Toxteth are named after two Vikings ) just think how much history has been buried  :(
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3369 on: August 8, 2019, 10:47:19 PM »
The conversation Iíve just had with the lad who posted them was brilliant. A few years ago I noticed sign that read Tue Brook and Iíd never seen the two words separated, itís probably been mentioned on here before, but not having lived in the city for over 40 years I didnít know, and you can actually see Tue Brook on that pic which is now culverted. And now it makes sense!

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3370 on: August 8, 2019, 11:16:22 PM »
Where the football pitch on the rec is now Morella road ,amazing picture

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3371 on: August 8, 2019, 11:30:47 PM »

See here... https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/threads/tuebrook-culvert-liverpool-january-2011.57422/

That site is well worth a browse through as it has quite a few Liverpool locations posted on.
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« Reply #3372 on: August 8, 2019, 11:41:15 PM »
See here... https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/threads/tuebrook-culvert-liverpool-january-2011.57422/

That site is well worth a browse through as it has quite a few Liverpool locations posted on.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3373 on: August 12, 2019, 02:18:44 PM »
Couple of photos, from 1956, showing some of the Welsh protesters from the Bala area of north Wales demonstrating about the threatened flooding of their community.

There are a few more in this link: https://www.peoplescollection.wales/discover/sort/date/page/4222 and a further few on the previous page - 4221.

 
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3374 on: August 15, 2019, 08:30:30 PM »
Here are a few of Islington Street, interesting that in 1961 it looks one way going into town, cars parked facing the same way, the bus stops give it away.
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« Reply #3375 on: August 15, 2019, 08:47:07 PM »
Here are a few of Islington Street, interesting that in 1961 it looks one way going into town, cars parked facing the same way, the bus stops give it away.

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« Reply #3376 on: August 15, 2019, 09:44:58 PM »
1967 pic is at Canterbury Street, Bidder is next Street down, 1945. 143 Islington is shuttered shop
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3377 on: August 15, 2019, 11:30:21 PM »
1967 pic is at Canterbury Street, Bidder is next Street down, 1945

I think that's air raid shelters still in the street.
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« Reply #3378 on: August 15, 2019, 11:47:03 PM »
I think that's air raid shelters still in the street.

Yes, it looks like one has been removed, the gap between houses is a little ominous though, it's a poor resolution pic, but looks like the houses have balconys.
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« Reply #3379 on: August 16, 2019, 08:34:35 AM »
Yes, it looks like one has been removed, the gap between houses is a little ominous though, it's a poor resolution pic, but looks like the houses have balconys.

Appears to be a woman stood on the top balcony. When you look at the far end, it slopes away and looks to me like that leads to a flight of steps, so I'm guessing it is a 3 storey block of flats/maisonettes rather than houses?

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3380 on: August 16, 2019, 10:29:22 AM »

There is someone and also what resembles perhaps washing hanging over the balconies, and yes, they are 3 storeys.

I've been trying to find a working copy of the blitz bomb map to see if that gap was the result of a hit but am having no success. Has anyone got a decent working link?
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« Reply #3381 on: August 16, 2019, 12:53:10 PM »
There is someone and also what resembles perhaps washing hanging over the balconies, and yes, they are 3 storeys.

I've been trying to find a working copy of the blitz bomb map to see if that gap was the result of a hit but am having no success. Has anyone got a decent working link?

Found this on the Echo sight, doesn't show a hit  https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/nostalgia/liverpool-blitz-animated-map-charts-9945979

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« Reply #3382 on: August 16, 2019, 07:09:50 PM »
Found a quite fascinating site for ya Gulley..

One foto i ain't seen or read about & it truly is heartbreaking to read too.

Location County/Walton/Fountains road..




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https://liverpoolblitz.wordpress.com/category/tales-of-the-blitz/
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« Reply #3383 on: August 16, 2019, 09:14:51 PM »
Found a quite fascinating site for ya Gulley..

One foto i ain't seen or read about & it truly is heartbreaking to read too.

Location County/Walton/Fountains road..

That's an astonishing pic mate. A community absolutely devastated. Horrendous acts which people all over the world still suffer on a regular basis.

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« Reply #3384 on: August 16, 2019, 10:07:03 PM »
Found a quite fascinating site for ya Gulley..

One foto i ain't seen or read about & it truly is heartbreaking to read too.

Location County/Walton/Fountains road..




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https://liverpoolblitz.wordpress.com/category/tales-of-the-blitz/

Harris gets a lot of shit from some corners about the bombing of Germany, but this shows the Germans weren't exactly arsed about precision bombing themselves. I assume their target was the railway and the canal,but they still managed to be a couple of hundred yards wide of the mark. My Grandparents on my Mums side lived in Everton and their house got hit once and another time my Grandad was home on leave and got blown up the stairs when the house opposite got hit.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3385 on: August 16, 2019, 10:26:51 PM »
Harris gets a lot of shit from some corners about the bombing of Germany, but this shows the Germans weren't exactly arsed about precision bombing themselves. I assume their target was the railway and the canal,but they still managed to be a couple of hundred yards wide of the mark. My Grandparents on my Mums side lived in Everton and their house got hit once and another time my Grandad was home on leave and got blown up the stairs when the house opposite got hit.
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« Reply #3386 on: August 16, 2019, 11:41:08 PM »
Harris gets a lot of shit from some corners about the bombing of Germany...

They're almost all gone now, but from what I heard first hand from the vast majority of people who actually lived through those grim days, there wasn't exactly a lot of sympathy for the later German position and outcries that occured when we were finally in a position to retaliate in kind, that somehow the Allied bombing effort was some kind of war crime.

You only have to look on this to understand...



...and that was just the city centre and didn't show all the other areas of utter devastation around the dock areas.

Harris had his faults, and was very much of his time and by modern sensibilities was brutal, but his reap the whirlwind was probably spot on as an expression of the widespread feeling for the era.

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« Reply #3387 on: August 17, 2019, 09:01:21 AM »
They're almost all gone now, but from what I heard first hand from the vast majority of people who actually lived through those grim days, there wasn't exactly a lot of sympathy for the later German position and outcries that occured when we were finally in a position to retaliate in kind, that somehow the Allied bombing effort was some kind of war crime.

You only have to look on this to understand...



...and that was just the city centre and didn't show all the other areas of utter devastation around the dock areas.

Harris had his faults, and was very much of his time and by modern sensibilities was brutal, but his reap the whirlwind was probably spot on as an expression of the widespread feeling for the era.



Shocking scenes.

I never knew my Grandads, they both died early, one from cancer in 1958 and the other of a heart attack in 61, both served North Africa and I would have loved to have heard their tales of what it was like, especially with families back home. I never thought to ask my Nans what it was like in Liverpool, I know my Mums Mum and a couple of my Aunties just missed getting killed when the house got hit wthin a minute or so of them leaving it and my Grandad just escaped in a bombing as I said above, but I know she was terrified of thunder and hid in cupboards, never understood until someone on here mentioned the bombing, she obviously flashed back to the war. From comments my Mum made, I do think the attitude from her Mum was the Germans got what they deserved.

My sister in laws fella was friends with a Lancaster pilot, he passed away recently. He had the pleasure of dropping bombs on Hitlers Eagles nest, I'll have to ask later if it was ever discussed on how the pilots felt about the missions over Germany, it is almost certain that he was involved in the raids on Cologne and Dresden. I can fully understood Harris's position, given what was going on at the time, Germany had devastated British cities, morale was low, so giving them a taste of their own medicine was probably the right thing to do.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3388 on: August 18, 2019, 02:47:06 PM »
Found a quite fascinating site for ya Gulley..

One foto i ain't seen or read about & it truly is heartbreaking to read too.

Location County/Walton/Fountains road..




From here..

https://liverpoolblitz.wordpress.com/category/tales-of-the-blitz/

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« Reply #3389 on: August 18, 2019, 04:19:23 PM »
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3390 on: August 19, 2019, 05:25:29 PM »
Liverpool Blitz Exhibition - Some good photos on there, a big hole in Walton Prison and of course the terrible Durning Road attack of November 1940


http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/mol/exhibitions/blitzed/index.aspx

Tom Murphy's blitz sculpture is a superb memorial if you're in town (in the Garden of St. Nick's)

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« Reply #3391 on: August 20, 2019, 10:42:42 AM »
There were 15 killed in Walton Prison that night... http://liverpoolremembrance.weebly.com/may-blitz.html



TAEKE BOONSTRA
died 03/05/1941, aged 20.
Netherlands Mercantile Marine; of Driehoven Straat, 1A, Groningen, Holland. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton. Also commemorated at City of Westminster (Paddington) Mill Hill Netherlands Field of Honour, Screen Wall.

JAN BOTTER
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Netherlands Mercantile Marine. Son of Arend and Anna Stokman Botter, of van Oldenbarneveldstraat, 65, Amsterdam, Holland. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton. Also commemorated at City of Westminster (Paddington) Mill Hill Netherlands Field of Honour, Screen Wall.

JOHN CASEY
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Son of Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Casey, of 30 Balaclava Street, Blackburn. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

GEORGE VICTOR CATER
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Son of John and Sarah Cater, of 12 Sweden Street, Waterloo; husband of Mary Alice Cater, of 69 Sweden Street. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

ROBERT ALFRED CLARK
died 03/05/1941, aged 46.
of 10 Virginia Street, Bootle. Husband of Amy Clark. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

GRAHAM CLIFFORD DAVIES
died 03/05/1941, aged 42.
of 19 Manchester Road, Southport. Husband of the late Esme Florence Davies. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

JAMES JOSEPH FLEMING
died 03/05/1941, aged 17.
Son of William and Florence Fleming, of 235 Whalley Range, Blackburn, Lancashire. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

RONALD GIBSON
died 03/05/1941, aged 17.
Son of Martha Rattigan (formerly Gibson), of 38 Browning Road, Sheepridge, Huddersfield, Yorkshire. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

ABRAHAM GORMAN
died 03/05/1941, aged 17.
Son of Margaret Gorman, of 126 Salisbury Road. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

JOHN HAROLD JACKSON
died 03/05/1941, aged 31.
of 53 Moss Road, Birkdale, Southport. Son of Alexander and Emma Jackson, of Wood Holme, Moss Road, Birkdale; husband of Ann Jackson. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

THOMAS McDONALD
died 03/05/1941, aged 27.
of 14 Thompson Street. Husband of G. McDonald. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

JAMES MILLER
died 03/05/1941, aged 16.
Seaman, Merchant Navy. Son of Michael and Elizabeth Miller, of 32 Fincham Green. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

RICHARD ROBINSON
died 03/05/1941, aged 17.
of 20 Northumberland Grove. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

HUGH GERARD SHIELDS
died 03/05/1941, aged 28.
of 23 Eleanor Terrace, Shotton. Husband of Audrey Sheila Shields. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.

JOHN TYRRELL
died 03/05/1941, aged 31.
Husband of Helena Tyrrell, of 63 Whittingham Street, Preston. Died at H.M. Prison, Walton.




I can't help but wonder what those two unfortunate Dutch sailors were being detained for as well as those lads of only 16 and 17 years of age.
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« Reply #3392 on: August 20, 2019, 11:17:44 AM »
Found another site with some very informative stuff..especially for those who may be doing a family tree or even curiosity living in a street with war damage.
The road i live in..most of the houses were damaged including my own,when i was converting my loft i found a lot of charred joists & a lot that were joined to another that wasn't replaced,the stairwell area was the worst.
5 doors down from me on the i found out there was a casualty from a bombing..links below.

http://www.liverpoolmonuments.co.uk/index.html

http://www.liverpoolmonuments.co.uk/warmemorials/wardead1940.htm

http://www.liverpoolmonuments.co.uk/warmemorials/bootle.htm

The ones that stick out is when the Co-Op shelter on Stanley road took a direct hit,without researching i think the site is where the Lidl is located now. The other being many casualties at Brocklebank dock,will have to look into that but i assume that was where the ship loaded with munitions was hit.
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« Reply #3393 on: August 20, 2019, 09:04:56 PM »
There were 15 killed in Walton Prison that night... http://liverpoolremembrance.weebly.com/may-blitz.html

It's an interesting piece gulley, I never knew the prison was bombed like that.

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« Reply #3394 on: August 21, 2019, 08:20:00 PM »
One for the researchers.. 8)

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« Reply #3395 on: August 21, 2019, 10:10:08 PM »
One for the researchers.. 8)



PSNC building being built, James street station tower behind, St George's church on the right.
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« Reply #3396 on: August 22, 2019, 07:26:32 AM »


PSNC building being built, James street station tower behind, St George's church on the right.

From Hidden Liverpool..

"1896 - construction of the White Star head office on the corner of James Street and The Strand.

Note the hydraulic accumulator tower of James Street Station and the steeple of St George's Church in the background."
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« Reply #3397 on: August 22, 2019, 08:32:22 AM »
PSNC building being built, James street station tower behind, St George's church on the right.

Well spotted.

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« Reply #3398 on: August 22, 2019, 12:07:09 PM »

From Hidden Liverpool..

"1896 - construction of the White Star head office on the corner of James Street and The Strand.

Note the hydraulic accumulator tower of James Street Station and the steeple of St George's Church in the background."

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« Reply #3399 on: August 22, 2019, 02:01:58 PM »
Old habits - it was always the PSNC to me, same as the Port of Liverpool Building still resides in my head as Mersey Docks & Harbour Board.

Aye good spot indeed,don't think I'd have got it to be honest.
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