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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3320 on: June 11, 2019, 09:55:09 PM »
Not long after:

Somewhere on this thread there should be one of the same area with airplanes being transported.

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« Reply #3322 on: July 5, 2019, 10:27:12 AM »
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3323 on: July 5, 2019, 10:32:38 AM »

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« Reply #3324 on: July 5, 2019, 11:24:05 AM »
Is that you?

Princess Anne's favourite car, and possibly the best vehicle Reliant ever made and quite innovative for its time.

Hatchback, 3 litre v6 so adequately pokey, and also quite elegantly styled.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3325 on: July 5, 2019, 11:40:49 AM »
1982.



1986 but unsure where?



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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3326 on: July 5, 2019, 12:47:37 PM »
1986 but unsure where?




I can't quite place that.

At a guess I've been trying from around Everton Brow and then points west with no joy, so much has changed just in the last 30 odd years, though it could be taken somewhere Dingle direction.
 
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« Reply #3327 on: July 5, 2019, 06:26:39 PM »
I can't quite place that.

At a guess I've been trying from around Everton Brow and then points west with no joy, so much has changed just in the last 30 odd years, though it could be taken somewhere Dingle direction.
 
That church(?) pyramid type roof on the skyline behind the lads might be familiar to someone and allow it to be placed...Tsar? Richie?
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3329 on: July 6, 2019, 10:47:33 AM »
Getting warmer. I think that pyramid roof in the background skyline might well be the top of this building....



The Cafe on Scotland Road known as the Round counter. The street running down the right is Bevington Hill

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3331 on: July 6, 2019, 07:53:46 PM »
Another possiblity here, https://www.google.com/maps/place/Silvester+St,+Liverpool/@53.4216358,-2.98335,24a,35y,263.55h,77.75t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x487b214628b178f3:0xa96328f378f23631!8m2!3d53.4214351!4d-2.9857004


St. Silvester on Silvester st. with Latimer st. in foreground


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About here.

It's been puzzling me all day, that roof line to the right of the pyramid bit.
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« Reply #3332 on: July 6, 2019, 08:54:02 PM »
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About here.

It's been puzzling me all day, that roof line to the right of the pyramid bit.
I was a bit bothered that the street - which looks, on the b&w photo, as if it slopes away - was level, but from your positioning I can see from the brickwork that there is a gradient, so that's good.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3333 on: July 6, 2019, 09:07:45 PM »
I've spent a bit of silly time looking at this in the last 2 days and I'm not convinced :)

Look at the backdrop that appears to be the Wirral, I can't see any of that in the google link guys.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3334 on: July 6, 2019, 11:33:34 PM »
I've spent a bit of silly time looking at this in the last 2 days and I'm not convinced :)

Look at the backdrop that appears to be the Wirral, I can't see any of that in the google link guys.

Oh ye of little faith....

Have a look at the attached comparisons, it might help.

The problem with comparisons between old pics and new(certainly using Google Street) is the difference in focal length of a lot of the camera lenses, which leads to a forshortening of perspective in older photographs compared to new ones. Distant things (like the far side of the river) appearing nearer in older photographs typically due to the longer focal length of the lenses used.

Anyway, the maisonettes on the left in the older photo below, 'D' have long gone.

However, the house 'A' is still clearly identifiable, windows and chimney pots, as is the the spire in the distance 'B'.

And if you go down the road towards 'B'  in streetview you'll eventually see the roofline match to 'C'
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3335 on: July 7, 2019, 01:06:08 AM »
You've nailed it completely  ;D


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3336 on: July 7, 2019, 06:33:26 AM »
That is superb investigative work Gulley! Love it.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3337 on: July 7, 2019, 10:36:19 AM »
That is superb investigative work Gulley! Love it.

Thanks, but it was Tsar who found the approximate location, he's the hero of the hour and should have the kudos, I'd been off on a wild goose chase.

All I did was then attempt to line up the shots.
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« Reply #3338 on: July 7, 2019, 11:22:42 AM »
Thanks, but it was Tsar who found the approximate location, he's the hero of the hour and should have the kudos, I'd been off on a wild goose chase.

All I did was then attempt to line up the shots.

Not so, all I did was stumble on the location; one I wasn't sure of until you came up with evidence, and applied the science. 
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3339 on: July 7, 2019, 01:48:22 PM »
Not so, all I did was stumble on the location; one I wasn't sure of until you came up with evidence, and applied the science. 
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« Reply #3340 on: July 7, 2019, 02:44:15 PM »
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3341 on: July 8, 2019, 10:45:35 AM »
Cowboys & Indians in an unknown Liverpool street..1953.





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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3342 on: July 8, 2019, 11:09:46 AM »
That Old Swan one hasn't really changed that much since then ... https://goo.gl/maps/SpjmfAavBo8bfiFn6

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That's a very atmospheric shot and looks vaguely familiar to me.

I remember back in the very early 60's, probably for some reason to do with her own childhood, my Mum occasional insisted that we all go off to afternoon Sunday Mass in St Augustines, long gone but a particularly impressive dark Gothic church that inside was full of splendid marble features. I think it was situated on the corner of Little Howard Street and Great Howard Street. We used to all pile in our car and drive down from West Derby using lots of cobbled back roads on the journey, quite possible even going by way of Sylvester Street on occasions. A lot of the area seemed pretty rough back then.

I didn't mind doing the Mass bit as it gave me an opportunity to neb the little steam engines on the Dock Railway and soak up the general busyness of the docks in those days, though being a Sunday, it was usually very quiet with not much to see.
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« Reply #3343 on: July 9, 2019, 06:05:20 PM »
Another for the researchers..



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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3344 on: July 9, 2019, 09:27:16 PM »
Klondyke?

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« Reply #3345 on: July 9, 2019, 09:43:38 PM »
Not sure mate..originally thought it was the small park off Knowsley road,Bootle..the one which i think Stevie G filmed an advert in about 15 years ago.

Edit..this one.

Poets park.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3346 on: July 10, 2019, 09:19:04 AM »


I don't think it's Poets Park, the house arrangements around it are very different to the original photo.

Re Klondyke, there's drone footage of the area here...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfrDrBOsQ2A

There is a park on the edge of the estate glimpsed in it a few times but again it doesn't seem to align with the original photo so I'm not sure that photo was of there.

In my search though, I found great little site here ... https://www.bootlehistory.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32466 with lots of old photos I've never seen before  from around the Bootle area and some slightly beyond.

Well worth a browse through.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3347 on: July 10, 2019, 03:23:02 PM »

I'm having little joy with this.

I've been looking on an old A-Z from around 1970 to try and spot a green rec that fits with the housing arrangement and just can't find any.

The nearest to a possible location is here though I'm unconvinced unless that photo was taken pre-68 before the New Strand building was completed in the background. Screenshot attached below if link not working. However the proportions look about right and obviously the houses around are all new, I assume replacing the old terraced ones in the old picture now long demolished.

The school at the back of the rec now, Christ Church, appears to have been relocated from another spot sometime in the late 60's(?), so may well have aquired that rec as their playing field as part of the rebuild.

This, the one on the right, was the old building back in '66 I think.. (from the ever useful  inacity)



(I've tried looking from the other direction but the houses don't match up, windows etc).

But honestly, no other idea as to where it could have been at the moment I'm afraid.

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« Reply #3348 on: July 10, 2019, 04:59:34 PM »
You pulled a rabbit out of the hat there Gulley,an almost impossible challenge as there really isn't much to feed off at all.
Scraping a bit but from here..

86 Cambridge Rd
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..i thought i had it,green space built on most probably since that photo was taken.
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« Reply #3349 on: July 10, 2019, 05:36:44 PM »
You pulled a rabbit out of the hat there Gulley,an almost impossible challenge as there really isn't much to feed off at all.
Scraping a bit but from here..

86 Cambridge Rd
https://maps.app.goo.gl/UXKS44iAQpRnzhce7

..i thought i had it,green space built on most probably since that photo was taken.

Sadly those houses on the left don't match up at all, that's their rears.

In the original the houses and the streets they are on are aligned at 90 degrees to the rec, see attachments.

In the third attachment below, I've enlarged the detail at the far end of the rec/field. It looks like it could be a temporary classroom perhaps?

Maybe that field always did belong to Christs Church and that broken fence behind the swings was simply a bit of vandalism.

But I'm honestly uncertain and not at all confident.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3350 on: July 10, 2019, 08:24:48 PM »
Has anyone ever heard of Penistone/Pennystone Terrace? Not sure of the spelling.
I believe it was in the Great Howard st area and might have been demolished around 1960.
I've looked on old maps and done google searches, but can't find anything.
Any help greatly appreciated  :wave

EDIT...
Done a bit more checking now I've got home and have found that Penistone Terrace, Townsend St, did indeed exist.
Just got to try and track down a photo now  :)
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« Reply #3351 on: July 11, 2019, 10:45:09 AM »
In my unsuccessful browsings for any pics about Penistone above, I came across the attached 1908 Anfield Road shot from here

A quick stroll with streetview reveals that house with the distinctive brickwork on the right is still around.
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« Reply #3352 on: July 11, 2019, 11:26:52 AM »
Thanks for looking Gully  :thumbup

I've found a couple of pic's of Back Townsend St on Dave Wood's flickr page.
He's got lots of good stuff about Liverpool to see  :wave

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #3353 on: July 11, 2019, 05:48:51 PM »


Dave used to post on here for a while around 8 or so years ago, https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6852

On your question, not sure if you saw this... http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?7980-Newport-Street-Kirkdale

About 3/4 the way down the page there's a couple of photos of what remains of part of the road today.

And in here... http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?2598-Gardens-Tenements-and-Courts/page9

There's someone back in 2008 ( Browniescorner) out in Australia asking exactly the same question as yourself.

Hi,
Any pics of Pennistone Terrace or Newport Terrace? Pennistone was off Townsend st & Newport was off Newport st.
Would love to see any pics or info.


Sadly, it doesn't look as if anyone answered though.
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« Reply #3354 on: July 11, 2019, 10:15:42 PM »
Cheers Gully.
Didn't know Dave used to post on here.
I'd seen the brownie posts., but not the tenaments one.
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« Reply #3355 on: July 12, 2019, 05:40:58 PM »
Barely recognisable as the same place: 



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« Reply #3356 on: July 12, 2019, 07:50:13 PM »
Barely recognisable as the same place:

There's  a good chance i knew those window cleaners!
That photo was probably taken mid 60's,looks older til you see the cathedral in the background.
Street view doesn't put the boozers customers in a good light  :D

A view of the other cathedral here..



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« Reply #3357 on: July 13, 2019, 06:26:35 PM »
Liverpool FC with the FA Cup at Lime Street Station, Liverpool. 1965



Notice how the vehicle access was on the left hand side of the station back then.


Lime Street Station, Liverpool. 1950s.



Lime Street Station, 1930s, Liverpool, the oldest mainline working station in the world. Foreground is Lion locomotive



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« Reply #3358 on: July 13, 2019, 06:31:02 PM »

I saw the loco in the Museum of Liverpool last year, took my dad with me and he was chuffed to see the Overhead Railway exhibit (in the background) as it brought back so many memories for him. Its well worth a visit.

On purpose?  :lmao
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« Reply #3359 on: July 14, 2019, 09:35:21 AM »
Lee Trevino famously once held up a long iron during a lightning storm, claiming "not even God can hit a 1-iron"