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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60520 on: January 15, 2022, 10:49:36 am »
Playing youth while the covid cases are high is a risk, it risks bringing in young players that will then get it and pass it on. Playing youth because you have injuries is what should be expected.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60521 on: January 15, 2022, 10:50:41 am »
Like I said, embarrassing. I didn't want our game called off at all in an ideal world, I'd far rather have the second leg at home. Difference is we had six COVID cases. You have one.
I've personally never heard any Liverpool said wishing for any game to be postponed. We played Spurs without Virgil and our first choice midfield out and didn't use it as an excuse.

Arsenal fans are parodies of themselves.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60522 on: January 15, 2022, 10:51:45 am »
Think you might mean 180 there, chum.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60523 on: January 15, 2022, 10:55:08 am »
Your fans spent a week telling us to play the kids and get on with it and are now defending trying to postpone a game because of one Covid case  :lmao

Utterly embarrassing. I don't blame the club for pushing their luck, it's the PL's fault for being too soft and setting themselves up to fail, but my word your fanbase is something else. And it's not just Twitter either. I've seen and heard the full 180 with my own eyes and ears with a couple of friends and a few work colleagues.

That's why their away end were particularly hostile and unpleasant the other night. They were genuinely fuming the game was called off (even more so after Klopp mentioned false positives, which they're convinced is all a conspiracy). Now they're mocking Spurs for being angry that Arsenal are clearly pulling a fast one while hiding behind the rules.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60524 on: January 15, 2022, 10:59:23 am »
That's why their away end were particularly hostile and unpleasant the other night. They were genuinely fuming the game was called off (even more so after Klopp mentioned false positives, which they're convinced is all a conspiracy). Now they're mocking Spurs for being angry that Arsenal are clearly pulling a fast one while hiding behind the rules.

Lack of success does weird things to fans of big clubs, let's face it we were probably a lot angrier and more annoying in the doldrum years. But they're really taking it to new levels.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60525 on: January 15, 2022, 11:06:07 am »
Now you’re doing the same thing, only wanting your games postponed but no one else’s .

I don't want any games called off unless it's a last resort (i.e. a severe Covid outbreak).

Leeds had a severe Covid outbreak and had to face Arsenal and City anyway and get humped (and then got their game against us called off). It should have been all or none.

We had to go to Spurs with our first choice midfield all out ill which cost us that game. We've always tried to get games on but deemed it a last resort to put the semi final back a week and lose home advantage in the process. We had no injured players or AFCON back by putting it back a week. Arsenal are exploiting the rule which they're within their rights to do but it's laughable after the shit fit so many Arsenal fans have had over the last week and have now done a 180.

"But what about Leyton Orient?". "But what about Leeds?" who Arsenal were happy to smash all over the park.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60526 on: January 15, 2022, 11:09:45 am »
I don't want any games called off unless it's a last resort (i.e. a severe Covid outbreak).

Leeds had a severe Covid outbreak and had to face Arsenal and City anyway and get humped (and then got their game against us called off). It should have been all or none.

We had to go to Spurs with our first choice midfield all out ill which cost us that game. We've always tried to get games on but deemed it a last resort to put the semi final back a week and lose home advantage in the process. We had no injured players or AFCON back by putting it back a week. Arsenal are exploiting the rule which they're within their rights to do but it's laughable after the shit fit so many Arsenal fans have had over the last week and have now done a 180.

"But what about Leyton Orient?". "But what about Leeds?" who Arsenal were happy to smash all over the park.


Football fans will always be tribal and spout bollocks.

The PL are the ones to blame as the rules are clouded with a lack of transparency from Clubs.

But you simply can't use the AFCON or injuries as an excuse otherwise we could of played that card last season as we had no fit senior CBs.

No other League is in this mess.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60527 on: January 15, 2022, 11:22:51 am »
Football fans will always be tribal and spout bollocks.

The PL are the ones to blame as the rules are clouded with a lack of transparency from Clubs.

But you simply can't use the AFCON or injuries as an excuse otherwise we could of played that card last season as we had no fit senior CBs.

No other League is in this mess.

We're called cheats over 'fake tests' but whatever happened there, injuries are open to abuse. If you can state or show a player has a knock or a strain (even if he'd play through it normally) then it can go down as an injury. 24 hours after a big game most footballers will have strains or knocks.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60528 on: January 15, 2022, 11:32:48 am »
Lack of success does weird things to fans of big clubs, let's face it we were probably a lot angrier and more annoying in the doldrum years. But they're really taking it to new levels.
I disagree. I remember watching Boss Night just after we got 97 points. Our optimism was incredible even going back. That's why they used to taunt us that the next season would be our season.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60529 on: January 15, 2022, 11:48:49 am »
We're called cheats over 'fake tests' but whatever happened there, injuries are open to abuse. If you can state or show a player has a knock or a strain (even if he'd play through it normally) then it can go down as an injury. 24 hours after a big game most footballers will have strains or knocks.

It is easy to manipulate.

You can guarantee Saka is fit to play if they decide to play Thursday.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60530 on: January 15, 2022, 11:59:59 am »
This is amazing!  ;D

I've never seen a bigger bunch of cry babies than Arsenal fans last week and now their own club are doing exactly the same thing (maybe worse).

You hope they might learn a lesson from this.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60531 on: January 15, 2022, 12:02:14 pm »
it is literally what every Arsenal fan told us to do.  :)

And your excuses for loaning players out is bollocks. You left yourself short.

It is tough luck and you should be made to play.

Why should Arsenal be made to play when everyone else can get games cancelled though?

People talk about the irony of Arsenal fans, but they are football fans, & football fans can flip flop all the time. What shouldn't be double standards is how the rules apply to 1 team and not another.

The league made their own back, Arteta asked for more clarity earlier in the season & everyone called him a cry arse. Arsenal are just trying to take advantage of the same rules that have been applied elsewhere unless I'm mistaken?
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60532 on: January 15, 2022, 12:04:53 pm »
Why should Arsenal be made to play when everyone else can get games cancelled though?

People talk about the irony of Arsenal fans, but they are football fans, & football fans can flip flop all the time. What shouldn't be double standards is how the rules apply to 1 team and not another.

The league made their own back, Arteta asked for more clarity earlier in the season & everyone called him a cry arse. Arsenal are just trying to take advantage of the same rules that have been applied elsewhere unless I'm mistaken?
Hypocrites! :lmao :lmao :lmao

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60533 on: January 15, 2022, 12:05:00 pm »
Why should Arsenal be made to play when everyone else can get games cancelled though?

People talk about the irony of Arsenal fans, but they are football fans, & football fans can flip flop all the time. What shouldn't be double standards is how the rules apply to 1 team and not another.

The league made their own back, Arteta asked for more clarity earlier in the season & everyone called him a cry arse. Arsenal are just trying to take advantage of the same rules that have been applied elsewhere unless I'm mistaken?

But the rules haven’t been applied consistently.

You are citing the AFCON as a reason yet loaned two players out.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60534 on: January 15, 2022, 12:06:36 pm »
But the rules haven’t been applied consistently.

You are citing the AFCON as a reason yet loaned two players out.
They don't just want to admit that they are scared of facing Spurs. They really deserve medals for their mental gymnastics.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60535 on: January 15, 2022, 12:07:34 pm »
Why should Arsenal be made to play when everyone else can get games cancelled though?

People talk about the irony of Arsenal fans, but they are football fans, & football fans can flip flop all the time. What shouldn't be double standards is how the rules apply to 1 team and not another.

The league made their own back, Arteta asked for more clarity earlier in the season & everyone called him a cry arse. Arsenal are just trying to take advantage of the same rules that have been applied elsewhere unless I'm mistaken?

The same Arsenal fans were righteously demanding the chance to beat up a team of kids in a semi final last week. "Just play the kids" and now want to hide behind a loophole in the rule book so they can rest their legs for the second leg and face Spurs when they've got their AFCON players and injured players back.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60536 on: January 15, 2022, 12:12:39 pm »
This is amazing!  ;D

I've never seen a bigger bunch of cry babies than Arsenal fans last week and now their own club are doing exactly the same thing (maybe worse).

You hope they might learn a lesson from this.

It isn’t the same, and yes it’s worse.
One club has what they believe to me a major covid outbreak, and get rightly instructed to shut their training ground.

It was an impossibility for Liverpool to play the match in those circumstances.

Arsenal on the other hand are gaming the system. Yes, ultimately the premier league’s fault for not putting proper rules in place, but still, a bad look for Arsenal and the other teams doing it, but what do they care - the loophole is there, thanks to the ‘best league in the world’ yet again proving to be an amateur operation.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60537 on: January 15, 2022, 12:15:16 pm »
Hypocrites! :lmao :lmao :lmao


Im not a hypocrite mate, I'm in here on record saying I didn't see any problem cancelling our game. I don't speak for the rest of the cry arses.

But the rules haven’t been applied consistently.

You are citing the AFCON as a reason yet loaned two players out.

Exactly, and that's our point, and Arteta's point way back last month, and why we are likely chancing our arm now. The league let Leicester site AFCON as a reason.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60538 on: January 15, 2022, 12:19:29 pm »


Im not a hypocrite mate, I'm in here on record saying I didn't see any problem cancelling our game. I don't speak for the rest of the cry arses.
Fair enough mate.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60539 on: January 15, 2022, 12:21:01 pm »
Fair enough mate.

You see the worse of all football fans on twitter, including our own. :)
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60540 on: January 15, 2022, 12:23:44 pm »
Everyone is playing the system, Liverpool with 40 false positives and 1 actual positive is as funny as it got. It still worked. So why can’t we try .

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« Reply #60541 on: January 15, 2022, 12:29:21 pm »
You see the worse of all football fans on twitter, including our own. :)

Twitter for me is just the equivalent of the kids on a school ground looking to start arguments or fights with little or no common sense, except there's a lot more of them as they can hide behind a keyboard.

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« Reply #60542 on: January 15, 2022, 12:29:33 pm »
Everyone is playing the system, Liverpool with 40 false positives and 1 actual positive is as funny as it got. It still worked. So why can’t we try .
Is it Covid cases or injuries the main thing?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60543 on: January 15, 2022, 12:32:45 pm »
Is it Covid cases or injuries the main thing?

It’s “confidential “. Means “take our word for it “. Or even better “we’d love to tell you but there are privacy issues that we have to protect” and “mind that Amazon camera on your way out they paid a lot of money to watch us shower”

It’s all bullshit , but it is a COVID season, so I guess strange patterns were always going to develop
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60544 on: January 15, 2022, 12:44:30 pm »
Everyone is playing the system, Liverpool with 40 false positives and 1 actual positive is as funny as it got. It still worked. So why can’t we try .

Whilst I don't actually take issue with Arsenal requesting a postponement, Liverpool had so many confirmed and suspected cases that they had to shut their training ground. I know people think this was all part of some elaborate hoax but that would be an extreme measure to take just to get a league cup tie postponed where we actually ended up losing our home advantage in the second leg.

My issue here is the reaction Liverpool got compared to every other club in the country. I wonder will Aston Villa's official account be tweeting snide messages about Arsenal. It's the different standards my club gets held to that bother me.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60545 on: January 15, 2022, 12:49:04 pm »
Everyone is playing the system, Liverpool with 40 false positives and 1 actual positive is as funny as it got. It still worked. So why can’t we try .

So you do think we faked the tests, then? I already asked you once but to be fair you've a lot of feedback to work through - what benefit did we seek by blagging a postponement? We didn't get any unavailable players back afaik, and we sacrificed the benefit of home ground in the second leg.

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« Reply #60546 on: January 15, 2022, 12:52:14 pm »
Whilst I don't actually take issue with Arsenal requesting a postponement, Liverpool had so many confirmed and suspected cases that they had to shut their training ground. I know people think this was all part of some elaborate hoax but that would be an extreme measure to take just to get a league cup tie postponed where we actually ended up losing our home advantage in the second leg.

My issue here is the reaction Liverpool got compared to every other club in the country. I wonder will Aston Villa's official account be tweeting snide messages about Arsenal. It's the different standards my club gets held to that bother me.

Did Arsenal themselves make a big song or dance about the postponement? I certainly didn't on here, I know folk thought North Bank was having a go, but from what I read he was only having a go at the lack of clarity, not a go at Liverpool.

So really, everyones main gripe is with a bunch of cry arses on social media, the cess pit of football fans, or other clubs having a snide pop?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60547 on: January 15, 2022, 12:55:44 pm »
So you do think we faked the tests, then? I already asked you once but to be fair you've a lot of feedback to work through - what benefit did we seek by blagging a postponement? We didn't get any unavailable players back afaik, and we sacrificed the benefit of home ground in the second leg.

Of course you did, Allison Firmino and Matip missed the game against Chelsea and would’ve missed the game at arsenal as it would’ve fallen within the same week if the first leg wasn’t postponed. And that’s just 3 off the top of my head . You went from a huge outbreak where to be fair it would’ve been insane to play the game , to just Trent, and he too was back in time for the rearranged match so you can add him.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60548 on: January 15, 2022, 01:04:37 pm »
Did Arsenal themselves make a big song or dance about the postponement? I certainly didn't on here, I know folk thought North Bank was having a go, but from what I read he was only having a go at the lack of clarity, not a go at Liverpool.

So really, everyones main gripe is with a bunch of cry arses on social media, the cess pit of football fans, or other clubs having a snide pop?

Said it on here (not this thread) the other day after that Atheltic shitstir article came out saying teams wanted LFC investigated, that I doubted any had.  As anyone with even with limited thinking could see that Liverpool gained nothing, and in fact lost something, but having to postpone. 

But at the end of the day the social media side of fandom - and I include forums in that, are hugely influencial, as much as we like to pretend it isn’t. You only have to look at artricles from so called serious media outlets that are laced with links to tweets as the basis for those articles. So it isn’t just some dickhead keyboard warrior fans, it spills over. Some of the stuff journalists and writers, where coming out with over this last week was bordering on libelous. And I’d love nothing more than for a team to one day actually take them to task legally over it. Probably the only way to curb the cess pit that is footballing media these days.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60549 on: January 15, 2022, 01:05:35 pm »
Whilst I don't actually take issue with Arsenal requesting a postponement, Liverpool had so many confirmed and suspected cases that they had to shut their training ground. I know people think this was all part of some elaborate hoax but that would be an extreme measure to take just to get a league cup tie postponed where we actually ended up losing our home advantage in the second leg.

My issue here is the reaction Liverpool got compared to every other club in the country. I wonder will Aston Villa's official account be tweeting snide messages about Arsenal. It's the different standards my club gets held to that bother me.

You didn’t Get The voice of the people Gary Neville and his sidekick carra screaming “Enough”. I think the reaction to us is far worse than what you got.

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« Reply #60550 on: January 15, 2022, 01:06:44 pm »
Pretty much. The PL's lack of transparency and inability to apply their own rules has caused this mess

100% have made a rod for their own back.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60551 on: January 15, 2022, 01:08:36 pm »
You didn’t Get The voice of the people Gary Neville and his sidekick carra screaming “Enough”. I think the reaction to us is far worse than what you got.

It’s barely caused a ripple from what I’ve seen. Just a bit of piss taking from us on here.

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« Reply #60552 on: January 15, 2022, 01:09:53 pm »
It’s “confidential “. Means “take our word for it “. Or even better “we’d love to tell you but there are privacy issues that we have to protect” and “mind that Amazon camera on your way out they paid a lot of money to watch us shower”

It’s all bullshit , but it is a COVID season, so I guess strange patterns were always going to develop
It's the games getting postponed for injuries that is galling.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60553 on: January 15, 2022, 01:19:58 pm »
Did Arsenal themselves make a big song or dance about the postponement? I certainly didn't on here, I know folk thought North Bank was having a go, but from what I read he was only having a go at the lack of clarity, not a go at Liverpool.

So really, everyones main gripe is with a bunch of cry arses on social media, the cess pit of football fans, or other clubs having a snide pop?

No, Arsenal as a club got a thank you from Liverpool for their cooperation (probably because they realised it could quite easily be them in the same position). The Arsenal fans on here are also fine.

Unfortunately the rest of the football world lost their heads because it was us. It's easy to say social media is a cess pit but why didn't social media react the same way when every other club requested a postponement? This also spilled over to the 'real world' with Klopp being grilled on his honesty in a press conference in a way that I've not seen with other managers. Social media doesn't exist in a vacuum, it might be the worst side of people but it still reflects general trends in the way people think. 
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60554 on: January 15, 2022, 01:24:03 pm »
It's the games getting postponed for injuries that is galling.


Like I said before the minute it became COVID + , it’s a free for all. Should’ve been a straight forward cut off point in Covid cases. We’d have had probably about 20 % of the cancellations we have. I understand the training ground closure issue but that’s open to abuse too , teams can train at the stadium , should’ve been based on Covid numbers exclusively.

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« Reply #60555 on: January 15, 2022, 01:27:45 pm »

Like I said before the minute it became COVID + , it’s a free for all. Should’ve been a straight forward cut off point in Covid cases. We’d have had probably about 20 % of the cancellations we have. I understand the training ground closure issue but that’s open to abuse too , teams can train at the stadium , should’ve been based on Covid numbers exclusively.
I guess like Jürgen has said there's no clarity on what is happening and what actual situations are. It's just a shit show that the league should have determined prior to kick off. This virus was always going to have an impact. It's now mid Jan really and no one has an idea on what the rules are.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60556 on: January 15, 2022, 01:31:38 pm »
Of course you did, Allison Firmino and Matip missed the game against Chelsea and would’ve missed the game at arsenal as it would’ve fallen within the same week if the first leg wasn’t postponed. And that’s just 3 off the top of my head . You went from a huge outbreak where to be fair it would’ve been insane to play the game , to just Trent, and he too was back in time for the rearranged match so you can add him.

You're an idiot. We don't control the outcome of the tests.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60557 on: January 15, 2022, 01:31:44 pm »

Like I said before the minute it became COVID + , it’s a free for all. Should’ve been a straight forward cut off point in Covid cases. We’d have had probably about 20 % of the cancellations we have. I understand the training ground closure issue but that’s open to abuse too , teams can train at the stadium , should’ve been based on Covid numbers exclusively.

what difference would that make when they have what they believed to be a massive number of positive cases, who had to isolate regardless and as a product of that - they needed to stop what they thought was a major spread by having no one train.

It’s weird that some people, including you, have decided to totally miss how the testing works, so regarless of who actually was positive in the end - they couldn’t use those players anyway in training or for the game, they STILL had to isolate. 

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Malice Through The Looking Glass
« Reply #60558 on: January 15, 2022, 01:34:20 pm »
what difference would that make when they have what they believed to be a massive number of positive cases, who had to isolate regardless and as a product of that - they needed to stop what they thought was a major spread by having no one train.

It’s weird that some people, including you, have decided to totally miss how the testing works, so regarless of who actually was positive in the end - they couldn’t use those players anyway in training or for the game, they STILL had to isolate.

The same dickheads claiming we faked the test results, despite the tests being carried out by an independent lab, would be cry arsing if we decided to ignore the results and play the players anyway. Fucking morons.
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« Reply #60559 on: January 15, 2022, 01:37:34 pm »
The same dickheads claiming we faked the test results, despite the tests being carried out by an independent lab, would be cry arsing if we decided to ignore the results and play the players anyway. Fucking morons.

I was presuming he was on a wind up, trying to be funny, which is his usual game here, but apparently not.

It isn't hard to understand what happened with Liverpool, Klopp himself explaiend it very succinctly the other day. So to refuse to understand is pure WUMery or just genuinely being dense, or both.

It’s a taste of Twitter in the forum for sure though, which is maybe an education for a few here! A great example of how choosing to not listen to an explanation leads to basically lying to make some sort of non point.
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