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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54040 on: November 6, 2019, 05:12:41 PM »
No-one is talking about punishments. Just that if fans boo their own players they can expect to be told to fuck off and quite rightly. And the fans shouldn't expect an apology. As for the fans being multiple people - his comment was only directed at the ones booing him.

I brought up punishments because often the best way to incentivise behaviour is to encourage a positive contribution and penalise negative.  Abusing players certainly falls under the negative.  Overall it's a culture issue though - not sure what booing players is meant to achieve to be honest, but it is what it is.  Largely a part of this (in my opinion) is due to the Arsenal crowd often trending a little older due to ticket price, some perhaps having a 'this isn't like the good old days' attitude instead of committing to enjoying the match regardless.  It's been like this for quite a few years.

Either way, it's providing some good popcorn for other fans however it isn't helping the season - Spurs and Utd are looking shaky, but a resurgent Leicester City and Chelsea (despite their transfer ban) will mean cocking up top 4 again will be a shocker.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54041 on: November 6, 2019, 05:45:32 PM »
Went on Arsenal Mania. They literally were gutted when they took the lead and celebrated conceding the equaliser. Didn't realise the hatred of Unai was so much.
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« Reply #54042 on: November 6, 2019, 05:49:22 PM »
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« Reply #54043 on: November 6, 2019, 05:49:56 PM »
Went on Arsenal Mania. They literally were gutted when they took the lead and celebrated conceding the equaliser. Didn't realise the hatred of Unai was so much.
They are still 4 points ahead top of their group. WTF more do they want?
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« Reply #54044 on: November 6, 2019, 05:50:26 PM »
what a pathetic bunch  :lmao
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54045 on: November 6, 2019, 06:02:38 PM »
Why were they playing tonight on a CL night?

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« Reply #54046 on: November 6, 2019, 06:03:09 PM »
what a pathetic bunch  :lmao
They couldn’t have handled the Xhaka thing any worse imo - I mean do they think anyone’s going to be feeling better about it now?

They should have just embraced the bad vibes and at least put a bit of fire in everyone’s belly for a bit.  The last thing they need is to make like Team Nicey-Nice, they’ve been trying that since Vieira left and look where it’s got them.

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« Reply #54047 on: November 6, 2019, 06:03:21 PM »
Fucking hell.


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« Reply #54048 on: November 6, 2019, 06:03:46 PM »
Why were they playing tonight on a CL night?

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Due to another team Braga are playing at home nearby in the same comp tomorrow, UEFA rules no teams can play at home same matchweek.
 
21.03 If more than one club from the same city, or within a radius of 50km (31 miles) of
each other, is taking part in any of the UEFA club competitions and/or plays in the
same stadium, and if the association and the clubs concerned explicitly declare
when entering the clubs that their matches cannot be played on the same day or
on consecutive days, the UEFA administration may alter or confirm dates and kickoff times in accordance with the principles set by the Club Competitions
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« Reply #54049 on: November 6, 2019, 06:08:09 PM »
It gets better. Aaron Ramsey just scored for Juventus.

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« Reply #54050 on: November 6, 2019, 06:21:50 PM »
Surprised they didn't give it to Leno, he's been playing well and has been kept far busier than he should be.  I'd much prefer Auba focused on scoring goals and nothing else.

Agree about Leno. It would mean putting him in front of the media more often and I always find his monologues entertaining.
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« Reply #54051 on: November 6, 2019, 07:37:19 PM »
Mother of god...

Police have released new video of Kolasinac being attacked.

He literally just ignores the guy feinting to attack him with a knife!

https://twitter.com/futbolbible/status/1192122318346162176?s=21
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« Reply #54052 on: November 6, 2019, 07:40:58 PM »
Mother of god...

Police have released new video of Kolasinac being attacked.

He literally just ignores the guy feinting to attack him with a knife!

https://twitter.com/futbolbible/status/1192122318346162176?s=21

This why he should be the next Arsenal Captain.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54053 on: November 6, 2019, 07:47:28 PM »
Mother of god...

Police have released new video of Kolasinac being attacked.

He literally just ignores the guy feinting to attack him with a knife!

https://twitter.com/futbolbible/status/1192122318346162176?s=21

Kolasinac is as cold as ice!  That idiot with the knife must have been mightily confused to get such a reaction. 
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« Reply #54054 on: November 6, 2019, 09:14:14 PM »
Kolasinac is as cold as ice!  That idiot with the knife must have been mightily confused to get such a reaction. 
id have been shit scared if I was the guy with the knife!!

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« Reply #54055 on: November 6, 2019, 09:14:53 PM »
Kolasinac is as cold as ice!  That idiot with the knife must have been mightily confused to get such a reaction.

Balkan mentality  8)

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« Reply #54056 on: November 6, 2019, 10:48:05 PM »
It really is crazy how quickly it goes south at Arsenal.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54057 on: November 6, 2019, 10:51:09 PM »
Must be longing for a top four finish and a last 16 champions league exit.

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« Reply #54058 on: November 6, 2019, 11:13:06 PM »
Merson saying David Luiz should've been made Arsenal captain, is he back on the bottle????
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« Reply #54059 on: November 6, 2019, 11:15:37 PM »
Merson saying David Luiz should've been made Arsenal captain, is he back on the bottle????
Yes.

He is.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54060 on: November 7, 2019, 05:24:53 AM »
How come Arsenal played on Wednesday?
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« Reply #54061 on: November 7, 2019, 05:34:47 AM »
How come Arsenal played on Wednesday?
Because Sporting Braga (<25 km away) plays a home game on Thursday?
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« Reply #54062 on: November 7, 2019, 07:32:29 AM »
They had a great transfer window though.   ;)

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54063 on: November 7, 2019, 11:21:43 AM »
520 completed passes last night. Only one into the box. Ouch.

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« Reply #54064 on: November 7, 2019, 12:15:18 PM »

Because quite simply, 'the fans' are not a single person - whereas Xhaka is.  Again, you are right in a vacuum, but this is football and I do agree he was justified to be frustrated and tell the fans to fuck off.  But looking bigger picture here, you can't punish 'a fanbase' - even if you're talking about 0.01% who is actually doing this sort of thing.  Sure, you can start removing fans from the ground for booing people, but then you start banning users online who abuse them, why not remove comments who are negative too?  At the end of the day reacting against the fans rarely goes well for a player, even if it's the right choice in the moment to say 'I don't deserve this moment'.

In many ways it is a lot like tailgating the person who cuts you up and sticking your fingers up for them to see in the mirror.  Sure, they're in the wrong - your actions are justified, right?  But you're still acting the idiot.

I was okay with Xhaka, as I felt his reaction was justified. But your explanation gives me pause. Xhaka didn't deserve this, but I agree now that he probably shouldn't have reacted in the way that he did. However, I don't agree with this part:

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But looking bigger picture here, you can't punish 'a fanbase' - even if you're talking about 0.01% who is actually doing this sort of thing.

You absolutely should be taking some steps with your fanbase, not punishment necessarily but something. The way your fans have gone about with the team is not going to attract any decent players. The decent ones currently present may even want to leave.
IMO, the first thing that should happen is to get rid of AFTV. Spreads toxicity in the fanbase, and makes mountains out of the smallest molehills.

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« Reply #54065 on: November 7, 2019, 12:15:48 PM »
Did Pepe light it up last night?

I am still confused about him - he seems like he has the tools to be a great player....

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« Reply #54066 on: November 8, 2019, 08:43:17 AM »
520 completed passes last night. Only one into the box. Ouch.

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« Reply #54067 on: November 8, 2019, 10:38:37 PM »
That Portuguese side almost scored again straight after their goal, hit the post, lol, the meltdowns on AFTV would have been biblical
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« Reply #54068 on: November 8, 2019, 11:09:42 PM »
Did Pepe light it up last night?

I am still confused about him - he seems like he has the tools to be a great player....

Remember when we called Lille and said "we don't want him, stop using Liverpool to get some sucker team to pay over the odds for him"

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« Reply #54069 on: November 8, 2019, 11:11:57 PM »
Remember when we called Lille and said "we don't want him, stop using Liverpool to get some sucker team to pay over the odds for him"

The best was Lille and his agent still insisting he had an offer from Liverpool (and he may have but at half the price).

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« Reply #54070 on: November 8, 2019, 11:14:22 PM »
The best was Lille and his agent still insisting he had an offer from Liverpool (and he may have but at half the price).

36m? If that's true that's a rare fuck up by Michael and the gang!

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« Reply #54071 on: November 8, 2019, 11:17:00 PM »
36m? If that's true that's a rare fuck up by Michael and the gang!

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« Reply #54072 on: November 9, 2019, 12:38:49 AM »
36m? If that's true that's a rare fuck up by Michael and the gang!

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« Reply #54073 on: November 9, 2019, 06:02:59 AM »
The way they handled that Xhaka incident is just mind boggling. Don't they have someone with common sense in their management?

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« Reply #54074 on: November 9, 2019, 06:06:40 AM »
Mother of god...

Police have released new video of Kolasinac being attacked.

He literally just ignores the guy feinting to attack him with a knife!

https://twitter.com/futbolbible/status/1192122318346162176?s=21
Zero chance that's the first time he was attacked with a knife or gun.

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« Reply #54075 on: November 9, 2019, 07:04:03 AM »
Arsenal can offer a last surge through the gears for Mourinho’s diesel destroyer

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« Reply #54076 on: November 9, 2019, 09:33:51 AM »
The best was Lille and his agent still insisting he had an offer from Liverpool (and he may have but at half the price).

The worst was fans on here criticising the Club for not signing him and thinking we would be fighting out a top four finish with Arsenal and Spurs.
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« Reply #54077 on: November 9, 2019, 09:54:49 AM »
Did Pepe light it up last night?

I am still confused about him - he seems like he has the tools to be a great player....

He's looked pretty good to me whenever I've happened to catch an Arsenal game and he's been playing. A bit raw but he's young isn't he?
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« Reply #54078 on: November 9, 2019, 09:57:16 AM »
Arsenal have handled the Xhaka situation so poorly it's untrue. I think he's absolutely dogshit at football and nothing will alter my opinion but they've absolutely sabotaged any value he had. Emery has said he don't know if he'll even play for the club again. They're going to have to give him away soon, they've done exactly the same with Ozil too and he's done nothing wrong. Assets becoming liabilities just because of Emery. Time for them to send him packing I think.

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« Reply #54079 on: November 9, 2019, 01:02:05 PM »
Arsenal have handled the Xhaka situation so poorly it's untrue. I think he's absolutely dogshit at football and nothing will alter my opinion but they've absolutely sabotaged any value he had. Emery has said he don't know if he'll even play for the club again. They're going to have to give him away soon, they've done exactly the same with Ozil too and he's done nothing wrong. Assets becoming liabilities just because of Emery. Time for them to send him packing I think.

Absolutely agree, Emery comes across as a weak minded non entity too for trying to suck up and say Xhaka should apologise. Italian Spanish or German sides will pick him up for very little in January or at the end of the season (because they are stupid enough to pay his wages and not pay him for then next 10 months).