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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54200 on: November 20, 2019, 12:19:50 PM »
From my point-of-view it’s more that they seem like two pretty similar clubs - there’s a level of flash that is Spurs-but-not-Arsenal (eg Berbatov), and a level of grit that is Arsenal-but-not-Spurs (eg Tony Adams), but other than that most of their personnel would fit just as well at either club.  Pochettino is right in the middle of that Venn Diagram.  Mourinho is outside both circles.

I’ve come to the view that a club’s idea of itself is the single most important thing in an appointment.  Why Klopp was obviously always our no.1 guy, and why Lampard is perfect for Chelsea - he doesn’t match anything in their past fifteen years, but their fanbase still sees itself as this stylish Osgood-Wilkins-Zola thing despite all evidence to the contrary.

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« Reply #54201 on: November 20, 2019, 06:28:58 PM »
My bet is he goes to Bayern.

Saw Dortmund at 50/1, that's gotta be worth a quid hasn't it? Dortmund are 6th at the moment, Favre must be on the precipice.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54202 on: November 20, 2019, 06:48:56 PM »
Saw Dortmund at 50/1, that's gotta be worth a quid hasn't it? Dortmund are 6th at the moment, Favre must be on the precipice.

It would actually be a great club for him in terms of the squad they have, the football they want to play and the way they are run. But I'd be amazed if he went to Germany, he'll be setting his sights on the bigger much richer clubs in Spain (in terms of why they can attract player wise certainly), and if not, he'll earn the big bucks in the prem with Man Utd! 
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54203 on: November 20, 2019, 07:12:12 PM »
Would be hilarious if pochettino fnally wins a trophy, at Arsenal. I’d hire him for giggles, we going nowhere anyway.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54204 on: November 20, 2019, 07:16:48 PM »
Better than Good Ebenin, but it's never happening.

If I were in charge of Barca, I'd move heaven and earth to get Pochettino.


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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54205 on: November 20, 2019, 07:52:15 PM »
Better than Good Ebenin, but it's never happening.

If I were in charge of Barca, I'd move heaven and earth to get Pochettino.

On paper looks like a perfect fit, doesn't it? But I wonder if Pochettino can handle many big name players egos. Imagine if Neymar went back...
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54206 on: November 20, 2019, 08:12:57 PM »
On paper looks like a perfect fit, doesn't it? But I wonder if Pochettino can handle many big name players egos. Imagine if Neymar went back...

Is there a bigger ego than Kane's?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54207 on: November 21, 2019, 08:34:28 AM »
Honestly I prefer watching Liverpool games - you get a sense of the coaching, the sense of urgency and a team which plays like, well, a team.  Arsenal games are this languid, insipid type of side to side games where there seems to be two general tactics - overload down the wing or hope someone does it all themselves up front.  Even Pep's City for all their questionable funding - clearly has an identity and a method of play I'm envious of. 

Do think the writing is on the wall for Emery, I'd happily take Poch and if he wins a trophy with us after nothing in 6 years at Spurs it'd be hilarious.  Plus as you say the banter would be more fun than the football, which at the moment is dreadful (other than the youth lads).

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54208 on: November 21, 2019, 12:53:52 PM »
From my point-of-view it’s more that they seem like two pretty similar clubs

I think they might as well merge, their consumers will appreciate the superior product at the end of the process.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54209 on: November 21, 2019, 01:08:55 PM »
Better than Good Ebenin, but it's never happening.

If I were in charge of Barca, I'd move heaven and earth to get Pochettino.
What's the deal with this? People keep referring to him as this on Twitter

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54210 on: November 21, 2019, 01:14:19 PM »
What's the deal with this? People keep referring to him as this on Twitter

Taking the piss out of his English, or rather his strong accent I guess? Seems a bit off to be honest, but it seems to be the done thing with Emery. Guy has become a bit of a meme because of it.
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« Reply #54211 on: November 21, 2019, 01:17:46 PM »
What's the deal with this? People keep referring to him as this on Twitter

He starts every interview with ''Good Evening'' except the Evening sounds more like Ebenin.  :D

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54212 on: November 21, 2019, 02:36:02 PM »
I think they might as well merge, their consumers will appreciate the superior product at the end of the process.

How would your combined XI look right now.....
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54213 on: November 21, 2019, 02:39:03 PM »
Piers Moron saying Arsenal should have hired Mourinho...
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« Reply #54214 on: November 21, 2019, 03:04:47 PM »
Piers Moron saying Arsenal should have hired Mourinho...

Still waiting on his promise to self immolate if Jurgen Klopp became our manager.

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« Reply #54215 on: November 21, 2019, 03:11:01 PM »
Still waiting on his promise to self immolate if Jurgen Klopp became our manager.

he had a meltdown when it happened - something like "now they are going to have all the fun"

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54216 on: November 21, 2019, 03:14:49 PM »
he had a meltdown when it happened - something like "now they are going to have all the fun"

And my god, he’s never been more right ;D

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54217 on: November 21, 2019, 03:15:52 PM »
he had a meltdown when it happened - something like "now they are going to have all the fun"

He loves Kloppo like crazy to this day  ;D It's the only thing commendable about him.
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« Reply #54218 on: November 21, 2019, 03:48:33 PM »
I love the autocorrect for Piers ;D
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54219 on: November 21, 2019, 05:43:44 PM »
I’d hope his German is decent because Bayern like managers that can speak it.

Can't speak a word of it apparently

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54220 on: November 21, 2019, 09:56:26 PM »
Taking the piss out of his English, or rather his strong accent I guess? Seems a bit off to be honest, but it seems to be the done thing with Emery. Guy has become a bit of a meme because of it.
Yeh it is a bit off, considering it's normal for Spaniards from most parts of Spain to pronounce Vs as Bs. He's not exactly doing anything odd.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54221 on: November 21, 2019, 10:05:40 PM »
he had a meltdown when it happened - something like "now they are going to have all the fun"

I remember him wanting Arsenal to panic sack Wenger and try to gazump us for Klopp, whilst we were all tracking his plane. ;D
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54222 on: November 22, 2019, 03:20:37 AM »
Will they grab Poch?
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54223 on: November 22, 2019, 04:57:05 AM »
Will they grab Poch?

With all due respect to Arsenal, I think he would be holding out for a club that is ready to win major trophies. He has already spent the last few years winning nothing with Spurs. Doubt he would be interested in making a sidewards move across North London to carry on that trend.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54224 on: November 22, 2019, 06:01:14 AM »
Will they grab Poch?

I think there is a clause in his contract, that says he can’t manage a club in the PL until the next season if he got sacked.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54225 on: November 22, 2019, 06:06:26 AM »
I love the autocorrect for Piers ;D

I thought it was a typo on his part. Then tried it out for myself.  ;D ;D


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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54226 on: November 22, 2019, 08:43:19 AM »
Will they grab Poch?

It would take a massive u-turn, here's what he said in 2018.

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"I am never going to be manager of Barcelona or Arsenal because I am so identified with Tottenham and Espanyol," Pochettino told reporters in January 2018.

"I grew up in Newell's Old Boys and will never manage Rosario Central.

"That is my decision because I prefer to work on my farm in Argentina than in some places.

"But my commitment is massive in this club. I am working like I am going to be here forever.

I prefer to work on my farm in Argentina than in some places
"But in the end, it is like the players, you never know what is going to happen in football.

"It is a lot of rumours about this, about that."

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54227 on: November 22, 2019, 02:18:14 PM »
I thought it was a typo on his part. Then tried it out for myself.  ;D ;D

Same  ;D
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54228 on: November 23, 2019, 05:07:25 PM »
Late drama.

Wonder how they'll react to that result?
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54229 on: November 23, 2019, 05:08:11 PM »
Late drama.

Wonder how they'll react to that result?
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« Reply #54230 on: November 23, 2019, 05:08:52 PM »
They're raging on Twitter, furious that Lacazette has kept Emery employed.
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« Reply #54231 on: November 23, 2019, 05:38:48 PM »
Sad state of affairs at Arsenal. Owners don’t care, fans are spoiled and unrealistic, manager is lost and frightened. They can only get worse really - something is very broken at the core of this club.

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« Reply #54232 on: November 23, 2019, 06:10:38 PM »
I liked when Lacazette scored to make it 2-2. There were 2 mins left in stoppage time. Did they grab the ball and run back to re-start? Nope. Just sat around in the goal area for 30 seconds more.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54233 on: November 23, 2019, 06:14:51 PM »
Pochettino to Arsenal? In all honestly I can't see Emery lasting beyond this season if even that. He's going to be sacked before season's end.

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« Reply #54234 on: November 23, 2019, 06:15:32 PM »
In fairness, the first goal against them should not have counted (ball moving), but they had a lackluster display against a struggling team at home. Sad state of affairs indeed.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54235 on: November 23, 2019, 06:16:54 PM »
Sad state of affairs at Arsenal. Owners don’t care, fans are spoiled and unrealistic, manager is lost and frightened. They can only get worse really - something is very broken at the core of this club.

Too true, as you say it's really sad to see. Too me their biggest problem is their owners who just take the money and as long as they are there will continue to replace manager after manager with little change.
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« Reply #54236 on: November 23, 2019, 06:19:13 PM »
How did go from "the Arsenal model" we wanted to copy to this? Perhaps there is a lesson to learn somewhere...
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54237 on: November 23, 2019, 06:41:25 PM »
Pochettino to Arsenal? In all honestly I can't see Emery lasting beyond this season if even that. He's going to be sacked before season's end.

Depends on how loyal Pochettino is, read an interview where he said he would never manage a team in Argentina (can't remember name, rival of Newell's old boys) Barcelona or Arsenal out of respect for his old clubs, would rather go and work on his farm in Argentina

Edit: it's been rehashed in some places this week but original interview was in January 18 https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/25/mauricio-pochettino-rather-work-farm-manage-arsenal-7261776/
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« Reply #54238 on: November 23, 2019, 07:24:00 PM »
How did go from "the Arsenal model" we wanted to copy to this? Perhaps there is a lesson to learn somewhere...

We fired Kenny, fired Rodgers and hired Klopp. They sat on Wenger for years past his prime and then brought in Emery.
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« Reply #54239 on: November 23, 2019, 07:35:57 PM »
We fired Kenny, fired Rodgers and hired Klopp. They sat on Wenger for years past his prime and then brought in Emery.
It's not just the manager though, Emery is not a bad manager. My question was directed more at the club. What about them letting many key players run their contracts? what about their hiring strategy? All that was before Emery. Looks like there is no cohesion between club, manager, players, style...
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