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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53920 on: October 31, 2019, 09:20:51 PM »
Agree with BrandoLFC actually, nowt wrong with it. Just fans ‘voicing displeasure’

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« Reply #53921 on: October 31, 2019, 09:43:22 PM »
A good statement for him....

If people spew vile abuse onto him, why are they surprised when they get a negative reaction...  footballers are human too..

Yep. Seems obvious why he wouldn't outright apologize

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53922 on: October 31, 2019, 09:45:17 PM »
A good statement for him....

If people spew vile abuse onto him, why are they surprised when they get a negative reaction...  footballers are human too..
yup, as I said the other day some of those who say that sort of stuff would never be able to handle a tiny amount of criticism their way

Yep. Seems obvious why he wouldn't outright apologize
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« Reply #53923 on: October 31, 2019, 10:00:53 PM »
Huge respect to Xhaka for not making a mealy mouthed apology for something he doesn't actually feel sorry for.

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« Reply #53924 on: October 31, 2019, 10:51:19 PM »
Everytime i see Emery I'm waiting for him to say "Miss Jones".


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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53925 on: October 31, 2019, 11:40:24 PM »
Everytime i see Emery I'm waiting for him to say "Miss Jones".



Jones didn't miss though, did he?
"All the lads have been talking about is walking out in front of the Kop, with 40,000 singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone'," Collins told BBC Radio Solent. "All the money in the world couldn't buy that feeling," he added.

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« Reply #53926 on: November 1, 2019, 07:36:32 AM »
Jones didn't miss though, did he?

Very good!  ;D

Didn't get on to that when I posted it!
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« Reply #53927 on: November 1, 2019, 10:46:57 AM »
They've got themselves a real gem in Martinelli. He's going to be very special.

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« Reply #53928 on: November 1, 2019, 11:09:54 AM »
He's going to be very special.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53929 on: November 1, 2019, 11:17:11 AM »
What does Sir Chips do to arrest Arsenal's slide?
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« Reply #53930 on: November 1, 2019, 11:26:35 AM »
What does Sir Chips do to arrest Arsenal's slide?

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« Reply #53931 on: November 1, 2019, 11:31:22 AM »
Which ironically shows backbone and he has a pair, which is something you’d want in a captain!
Agree with this.  Thought Emery should have backed him up 100% straight after the match actually, given Xhaka’s popularity in the dressing room it would have been an easy way to tap into a siege mentality.  Not ideal for it to be against your own fans I guess, but they’d soon come round if it worked and turned them into a team of scrappers.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53932 on: November 1, 2019, 11:38:59 AM »
The Arsenal fan that interrupted Claude's interview just summed up the modern football fan as well as the attitude that gives rise to online abuse.

It's the total conviction that he and "the fans" have a right to do and say what they like regardless of the effect that it may have on others. By saying that he and "everyone else" taking stick is a justification to do what he likes is a pretty thin defence.

 I know the fan in the interview was talking about abuse in the ground, but the sooner people in general are held accountable for what they choose to self publish online the better.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53933 on: November 1, 2019, 01:35:45 PM »
Sounds like Xhaka isn't in the matchday squad tomorrow.

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« Reply #53934 on: November 1, 2019, 03:40:59 PM »
Claude is far and away the best of that lot, although he's at his best with Ty.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53935 on: November 1, 2019, 06:22:09 PM »
Arsenal fans are screaming for Ozil to start a game I see. After he put in a good performance against a Liverpool reserve side. One that consisted of a 18-year-old RB, a 17-year-old CB, a 18-year-old GK, a 22-year-old CB and a 33-year-old midfielder who was just filling in at LB. Just looking forward to him getting his chance in a premier league game now, only for him to go missing when they really need him.
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« Reply #53936 on: November 1, 2019, 08:22:34 PM »
If they think an Ozil is the answer to their problems then they've got some deluded whoppers amongst their support.  Arsenal are a club that is pretty well set up to do well but seem completely rudderless at the moment.
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« Reply #53937 on: November 2, 2019, 01:36:45 AM »
Claude is far and away the best of that lot, although he's at his best with Ty.
Fella Lee is decent too, although he went apeshit after the Palace game last week though.

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« Reply #53938 on: November 2, 2019, 03:57:53 AM »
Arsenal fans are screaming for Ozil to start a game I see. After he put in a good performance against a Liverpool reserve side. One that consisted of a 18-year-old RB, a 17-year-old CB, a 18-year-old GK, a 22-year-old CB and a 33-year-old midfielder who was just filling in at LB. Just looking forward to him getting his chance in a premier league game now, only for him to go missing when they really need him.

I saw something like that on another forum, I asked the poster if that meant he'd be subbed off at HT in the games where he was a non-issue and his response was that he'd never sub him as he'd still be their best chance to pick apart a defence from midfield. Insane really when attacking has not been arsenal's main issue so far this season.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53939 on: November 2, 2019, 07:31:45 AM »
I hope Arsenal pick up form soon. Its not long before they play Man City.

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« Reply #53940 on: November 2, 2019, 08:37:44 AM »
Arsenal didn't get anything from us. They'll get diddly squat from City.  Not because Arsenal are bad, they're just not the kind if team ADFC will drop points to.
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« Reply #53941 on: November 2, 2019, 10:32:55 AM »
Claude is far and away the best of that lot, although he's at his best with Ty.

Random af that but this week I've read few Arsenal fans who say they have met him in person and he's a total prick. Bottom line, AFTV rather needs binning if you're an Arsenal fan and peaked three years ago

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« Reply #53942 on: November 2, 2019, 05:31:04 PM »
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« Reply #53943 on: November 2, 2019, 06:24:22 PM »
They are still 5th, which is as good as they are going to get in my opinion. I would stick with Emery unless something dramatic happens and throw anything at Rafa next season

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« Reply #53944 on: November 2, 2019, 11:16:11 PM »
Not good when leaks start appearing inside clubs, you really get the idea Emery is on the edge at the moment. No excuse for young players being so disrespectful though.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53945 on: November 3, 2019, 08:26:24 AM »
I know it goes on with fans from each club around the world, but what kind of mongrel wishes the daughter of a player from their own team gets cancer?! Ballbags

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53946 on: November 3, 2019, 08:28:05 AM »
Arsenal didn't get anything from us. They'll get diddly squat from City.  Not because Arsenal are bad, they're just not the kind if team ADFC will drop points to.

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« Reply #53947 on: November 3, 2019, 08:43:13 AM »
What's the non abbreviated form?  ???

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« Reply #53948 on: November 3, 2019, 08:52:11 AM »
Arsenal very lucky to escape with a point yesterday.
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« Reply #53949 on: November 3, 2019, 08:55:44 AM »
Not good when leaks start appearing inside clubs, you really get the idea Emery is on the edge at the moment. No excuse for young players being so disrespectful though.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/arsenal-vs-wolves-premier-league-results-final-score-goals-a9182546.html

What was this in reference to Jill? Link wouldn't load for me for some reason

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« Reply #53950 on: November 3, 2019, 09:35:06 AM »
What was this in reference to Jill? Link wouldn't load for me for some reason

Basically that the younger players have very little respect for him and are not afraid to talk about it. There are clear signs that there are leaks and different groups going in different directions among the players. The bit about the younger player came from a source at the training ground, which could even indicate its from a staff member as well. Either way Emery is losing any respect he may once have enjoyed.

Here is the first paragraph.

It is a familiar sound around Arsenal’s London Colney base, often followed by stifled sniggering.

Many of the club’s younger players now openly do impressions of Unai Emery, in a way that is a lot more cynical than those light-hearted “good ebening” internet memes.
That greeting is one of the few elements that give the Arsenal manager a bit of public personality, but one of many elements some of his squad will – in the words of one training ground source – “mercilessly take the piss out of”.


And while some of that is typical behaviour under any boss, it is here typical of a club where his very direction and authority is under question.

So much for the sense that underlay a lot of the 2018-19 season, where it often felt that a lack of identity at Arsenal was making their matches much less interesting.


Hardly surprising they can't hold on for victories with this lot happening.
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« Reply #53951 on: November 3, 2019, 09:40:41 AM »
What was this in reference to Jill? Link wouldn't load for me for some reason

More boos and groans at Arsenal, and yet more dropped points. Granit Xhaka was this time not there, but an underwhelming Mesut Ozil was, indicating these setbacks are down to so much more than any one player. Whether they’re still down to one man, however, is another matter.

Unai Emery’s increasingly confusing tactics - counter-attacking but counter-productive - felt like they directly fed into this 1-1 home draw with Wolves, making it a third successive league game without a win.

No proper sorry from Xhaka, but another sorry performance from his team.

The word at Arsenal is that the manager has not fully lost the dressing room yet, but that won’t be long coming if he can’t actually figure out how to win any games. Actually sacrificing leads through his substitutions only worsens it, as he literally makes his team worse.

And this is the major problem in this team right now.

Far from getting more of an idea of themselves the longer Emery is over this team, Arsenal seem less and less sure of themselves, or what they’re supposed to be doing.

Last season's dull functionality has given way to a more unpredictable incompetence.

It is now as if everything he touches just gets worse, from the Xhaka issue to the Ozil issue to the fact both of those have now been overshadowed by another poor result.

Wolves, however, were anything but poor.

They were the better team for most of the game, and probably deserved more.

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The wonder is just why - again - Arsenal gave them so much of the play.

 Despite finally having their best pure footballer on the pitch in Ozil, Emery’s side were still so oddly reluctant to actually get on the ball and take it to Wolves, again standing off in such a strange way. You could say there was a one-off logic because Wolves themselves are a conspicuously counter-attacking team, except Arsenal now do this most of the time.

It meant most of the game was an awful lot of nothing, Wolves not quite comfortable with being just invited on.

It is precisely this that has been a source of so much frustration to Arsenal fans - and some of the players - under Emery, but it does admittedly offer one release. The approach allows Aubameyang and Lacazette to play in the same team, and the only moments where this game really sparked was when they combined.

It of course led to the goal. After typically good work from Matteo Guendouzi out wide, he played the ball into Lacazette who cut it back for his strike partner. Aubameyang duly guided it into the corner of Rui Patricio’s net.

All the best moments involved them, and occasionally Dani Ceballos and Ozil. One divine Ceballos ball down the right almost released the duo. One glorious Ozil backheel from Aubameyang pass saw Lacazette blaze over.

It was occasionally enjoyable, but this was kind of the problem. It all felt instinctive and off the cuff rather than integrated.

Wolves very quickly realised they had a more coherent idea of play, but the question whether they had the quality to actually make it count.

A certain unfamiliarity with having so much of the ball meant most of the best chances fell to the man on the edge of it. Ruben Neves, however, couldn’t quite find his range.

He was narrowly over with one trademark long-range shot, and then hit an effort a bit too close to Leno when arriving late in the box.

And that was what was so infuriating, beyond the fact that Emery’s substitutions - another long-term flaw - cost Arsenal any initiative they actually had. Wolves had been working so hard to get nowhere, only for Arsenal to just offer them the easiest way through.

They just switched off, especially Ceballos… and the centre-halves… and most of the defence. Take your pick. Wolves were able to.

Jonny played an unchallenged throw to the edge of the box, Joao Moutinho hooked it across first-time, and Raul Jimenez headed in from close range. There just felt so many opportunities to clear it, or do anything.

This was again the price of Emery’s approach.

This is why, no matter what happens with Xhaka, no matter what happens with Ozil, there always feels another problem around the corner.

The next win, however, doesn’t look so close.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #53952 on: November 3, 2019, 09:47:35 AM »
They are still 5th, which is as good as they are going to get in my opinion. I would stick with Emery unless something dramatic happens and throw anything at Rafa next season

Looks like they want Mourinho and fickle as some of their fans are, they're getting on board with that as well. Shocking, after the history between Mourinho and Wenger.

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« Reply #53953 on: November 3, 2019, 09:50:03 AM »
Looks like they want Mourinho and fickle as some of their fans are, they're getting on board with that as well. Shocking, after the history between Mourinho and Wenger.

Will Mourinho have money to spend though? I'm amazed about these rumours to be honest, I can't think of a less suited partnership than Mourinho and Arsenal. It just proves the lack of clarity those who run the club have. When he starts throwing players under buses when his outdated style fails to kick in what then?
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« Reply #53954 on: November 3, 2019, 10:18:48 AM »
Will Mourinho have money to spend though? I'm amazed about these rumours to be honest, I can't think of a less suited partnership than Mourinho and Arsenal. It just proves the lack of clarity those who run the club have. When he starts throwing players under buses when his outdated style fails to kick in what then?

Not to mention an obvious point that they do have some decent younger players whose progress will be setback significantly for the 2-3 seasons that he'd be there, they need a manager who wants to build something there and that's never been Mourinho's aim.

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« Reply #53955 on: November 3, 2019, 10:45:17 AM »
Emery is a fraud

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« Reply #53956 on: November 3, 2019, 10:54:47 AM »
If they had any sense they’d have gone for Rodgers instead of Emery and should do again, but they’re seemingly one of those fanbases who hate the idea of having a ‘failed’ Liverpool manager in charge. Rafa has had the same thing since he left, the amount of clubs that he was frankly above managing anyway who were appalled at the idea is ridiculous.
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« Reply #53957 on: November 3, 2019, 10:58:51 AM »
Would swerve Rodgers if I was them, he goes on a bad run it gets toxic fast, if rafa or allegri are gettable now then pull the trigger as those two have a good enough cv that will provide them with the wiggle room during a bad run that Rodgers won’t have with them

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« Reply #53958 on: November 3, 2019, 11:01:10 AM »
I think they need to bring the Arsenal way back to the Club. Who would be the Solskjaer equivalent for them? Kanu maybe? Has Sylvan Wiltord got his coaching badges yet?
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« Reply #53959 on: November 3, 2019, 11:03:48 AM »
I think they need to bring the Arsenal way back to the Club. Who would be the Solskjaer equivalent for them? Kanu maybe? Has Sylvan Wiltord got his coaching badges yet?

I hear more and more shouts on aftv about bringing Patrick Vieira so there's that