Topic: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD

[The North Bank]

Anyone seen much of Victor Gyokeres? We keep getting linked with him

[Elzar]

Anyone seen much of Victor Gyokeres? We keep getting linked with him

He's going to be £80mill+, which is wild considering he was playing decent in the Championship and went for under £20mill last summer.

Basically a very good target man that's great at finishing, really impressing in Portugal and really impressed for Coventry last year.

[Bread]

Anyone seen much of Victor Gyokeres? We keep getting linked with him

I only ever watched him at Coventry, where he was clearly too good the Championship. Not watched him for Sporting, but the reports suggest he's absolutely smashing it.

[Elzar]

I only ever watched him at Coventry, where he was clearly too good the Championship. Not watched him for Sporting, but the reports suggest he's absolutely smashing it.

North Bank is an Arsenal fan.

[Bread]

North Bank is an Arsenal fan.

Yes, just amended my post, lost track of what thread I'm in.

[Elzar]

Yes, just amended my post, lost track of what thread I'm in.

Just as I pressed quote, to make my post look completely bollocks too

[Drinks Sangria]

Paying the release clause for Gyokeres would be horrible business.

Busy, tidy, strong striker who’s a really nice instinctive finisher. He’s not in the same league as an Osimhen or even Jonathan David at Lille; players who will command similar or higher fees. He’s someone a West Ham or Aston Villa might hang their hat on as a marquee signing, but for me isn’t quite good enough to be the main man at Arsenal.

Arsenal just need to go and try to get Osimhen or Watkins.

[The North Bank]

Paying the release clause for Gyokeres would be horrible business.

Busy, tidy, strong striker who’s a really nice instinctive finisher. He’s not in the same league as an Osimhen or even Jonathan David at Lille; players who will command similar or higher fees. He’s someone a West Ham or Aston Villa might hang their hat on as a marquee signing, but for me isn’t quite good enough to be the main man at Arsenal.

Arsenal just need to go and try to get Osimhen or Watkins.

Yeh theres no point paying this crazy money for potential. If you’re spending 80m+ we need a sure thing. Not sure what a sure thing is though. I feel Osimhens physically ideal for the premier league, but i don’t know, at times in the the African nations cup and for napoli this season hes looked useless.
Jonathan david is another name we get linked with every summer

[MonsLibpool]

Yeh theres no point paying this crazy money for potential. If you’re spending 80m+ we need a sure thing. Not sure what a sure thing is though. I feel Osimhens physically ideal for the premier league, but i don’t know, at times in the the African nations cup and for napoli this season hes looked useless.
Jonathan david is another name we get linked with every summer

Osimhen is not worth his price tag (I'm a Nigerian that's watched him a lot).

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Osimhen is not worth his price tag (I'm a Nigerian that's watched him a lot).

Shh man they should pay loads for him, he's awesome *cough*

[MonsLibpool]

Shh man they should pay loads for him, he's awesome *cough*

The teams that'll buy him will come up against parked buses most of the time. The truth is that he just doesn't offer enough in that situation.  We've played those types of games where I forgot he was playing.

Also, a €130m striker has to be clinical. He isn't.

[Drinks Sangria]

I rate Osimhen. I don’t think he worth anything near what Napoli want but he’s a good volume player.

I think Jonathan David will end up being rated higher. Another name into the hat that I think is as good as them - Dominic Solanke. The lad has become what Liverpool hoped he would, he’s ready for a big move. Looks to me every inch a Champions League level striker now, he just needs the opportunity.

[Crosby Nick]

I rate Osimhen. I don’t think he worth anything near what Napoli want but he’s a good volume player.

I think Jonathan David will end up being rated higher. Another name into the hat that I think is as good as them - Dominic Solanke. The lad has become what Liverpool hoped he would, he’s ready for a big move. Looks to me every inch a Champions League level striker now, he just needs the opportunity.

Will he get it? Assuming Villa get 4th they won’t be looking at him when they have Watkins. Of the teams in the top 6 (or who should be), probably Spurs and maybe Chelsea would be the ones most looking for a focal point striker.

[Knight]

Problem is you have to massively overpay given he's English. But yeah Spurs need a focal point forward.

[MonsLibpool]

I rate Osimhen. I don’t think he worth anything near what Napoli want but he’s a good volume player.

I think Jonathan David will end up being rated higher. Another name into the hat that I think is as good as them - Dominic Solanke. The lad has become what Liverpool hoped he would, he’s ready for a big move. Looks to me every inch a Champions League level striker now, he just needs the opportunity.

Victor Boniface is a well-rounded striker that might still be undervalued.

[Crosby Nick]

Problem is you have to massively overpay given he's English. But yeah Spurs need a focal point forward.

Not sure if that’s even a term! And whether they’d want one (are they still playing Richardson there or is Son through the middle these days). And Chelsea may not want to pay for someone they lost cheaply, but then again they’re a basket case so why not take the Manc approach. Unless they’re investing in Jackson to improve.

[disgraced cake]

Gyokeres was always going to go this way, could see it when he moved over there, a few Prem sides probably missed a trick not signing him at that price, now there's only a select few clubs who can afford him. He's been so clinical this season, plus is physical too, and should have quite a few good years ahead of him. I feel he could have gone in to somewhere midtable in the Prem and done double figures easily enough, perhaps it'll inspire more clubs to take a look at what is bossing the Championship.

[Drinks Sangria]

Gyokeres was always going to go this way, could see it when he moved over there, a few Prem sides probably missed a trick not signing him at that price, now there's only a select few clubs who can afford him. He's been so clinical this season, plus is physical too, and should have quite a few good years ahead of him. I feel he could have gone in to somewhere midtable in the Prem and done double figures easily enough, perhaps it'll inspire more clubs to take a look at what is bossing the Championship.

Makes you wonder why Brighton let him go. Usually a terrific judge of a player but I suppose all clubs make the odd personnel mistake.

[The North Bank]

Osimhen is not worth his price tag (I'm a Nigerian that's watched him a lot).

That’s interesting, at times last season he looked unplayable

[DarkOfTheManatee]

Gyokeres was always going to go this way, could see it when he moved over there, a few Prem sides probably missed a trick not signing him at that price, now there's only a select few clubs who can afford him. He's been so clinical this season, plus is physical too, and should have quite a few good years ahead of him. I feel he could have gone in to somewhere midtable in the Prem and done double figures easily enough, perhaps it'll inspire more clubs to take a look at what is bossing the Championship.

Yeah, maybe there's a reticence because of that tier of strikers who get the goals in the Championship and then massively struggle in the PL: Dwight Gayle at Newcastle is one that springs to mind. But on the flip side, you have Toney and Solanke who made the jump, so it can't be much riskier than buying Beto from Serie A.

Mad how much Solanke and Rhian Brewster's careers have diverged - I remember being pretty excited about both their potentials and disappointed when we let them go (though the transfer fees helped). Now Solanke is one of the better strikers in the league and Brewster has only scored a handful of goals in the Championship since he left. Albeit he got unlucky with the timing of a bad injury just as he was in and around the first team squad for us.

[CowboyKangaroo]

Really good at finishing and clinical are probably the two biggest red flag descriptors when considering any forward who is having a break out season. Best case scenario they will be good but over-priced. Worst case they just ran hot and are shit.

[Drinks Sangria]

Really good at finishing and clinical are probably the two biggest red flag descriptors when considering any forward who is having a break out season. Best case scenario they will be good but over-priced. Worst case they just ran hot and are shit.

Interestingly, for a statistical viewpoint, this is true. The greater indicator, oddly, is getting into position for high-percentage chances. Finishing them is not incidental, but slightly underperforming your xG isn’t as concerning long term as massively over-performing it or not consistently getting chances. All the great forwards miss chances, but bounce back and take as many as they squander.

Look at Darwin and Haaland. People can talk about Haaland’s ‘clinical’ finishing as much as they want, but he misses as many, if not more big chances than other top strikers. Darwin misses chances. But they’re both always there in the right place to get at those chances. Gyökeres has an xG of 15.2 against 22 goals this season. That’s an alarming over-performance and I’m just not sold that he’s elite and will end up dragging those underlying numbers in line, especially in a higher league. Haaland has 18 goals against an xG of 21, and Nunez has 10 against 13.5 - proving both are creating and finding opportunities but could be more clinical.

Gyökeres is giving me Lacazette vibes in that he won’t be elite in a top league despite statistics pointing the contrary.

[disgraced cake]

Really good at finishing and clinical are probably the two biggest red flag descriptors when considering any forward who is having a break out season. Best case scenario they will be good but over-priced. Worst case they just ran hot and are shit.

It's a break out season in the sense he's now probably on the radar of some of the top clubs, but his last season in the Championship suggested he was already playing at a really good level personally. Obviously going to Portugal isn't quite the challenge of going to the Prem but it's been more breakout in the sense a lot more people have realised how good he is, when in reality your average team in Portugal won't be any better than your average Championship side around the promotion places.

Gyökeres is giving me Lacazette vibes in that he won’t be elite in a top league despite statistics pointing the contrary.

Probably a good comparison. I'd expect Gyokeres has all the attributes to do double figures in the right side but not be scoring 20 regularly. Next season will be an important one for him I imagine, score the same amount of goals and he'll have some of the top clubs after him (as he might this summer already), but underwhelm and it could easily be a 45 million pound move to West Ham where he scores 4 goals in 26 matches and ends up somewhere in Italy on loan.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Victor Boniface is a well-rounded striker that might still be undervalued.

I am surprised that him and Openda aren't getting named as much for the summer. Both looks like absolutely class strikers, right age, and done it at different levels of league

[Drinks Sangria]

I am surprised that him and Openda aren't getting named as much for the summer. Both looks like absolutely class strikers, right age, and done it at different levels of league

Openda probably did himself no favours with his wasteful display against Real Madrid, which is what most will associate him with as that’s all they’ve seen of him, but yeah he looks the real deal and will go on to play for a top club. Great numbers in the Bundesliga.

[MonsLibpool]

I am surprised that him and Openda aren't getting named as much for the summer. Both looks like absolutely class strikers, right age, and done it at different levels of league

Yeah, I like Openda as well because he's very pacy and versatile. Bonifice is a perfect striker that can do everything.

However, they don't have the same PR as an Osimhen (the "n" isn't pronounced by the way).