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Round of 16 draw
« on: December 12, 2018, 08:51:12 AM »
Potential opponents in the last 16

Real Madrid
Juventus
Borussia Dortmund
Barcelona
Porto
Bayern or Ajax

12/13/19/20 February: round of 16 first leg
5/6/12/13 March: round of 16 second leg

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2018, 08:53:05 AM »
Potential opponents in the last 16

Real Madrid
Juventus
Borussia Dortmund
Barcelona
Porto
Bayern or Ajax

12/13/19/20 February: round of 16 first leg
5/6/12/13 March: round of 16 second leg

Porto again please!

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2018, 09:14:05 AM »
We will be home in the first leg also..

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2018, 09:26:19 AM »
Anyone but Juve
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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2018, 09:55:16 AM »
We will be home in the first leg also..

Is that a given ?  I was hoping we would be away when we were without VVD.

Would prefer Dortmund of those left in for a number of reasons incl. atmosphere, the trip and to remind Pulisic what Anfield is like on a European night ;)

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2018, 09:59:27 AM »
Is that a given ?  I was hoping we would be away when we were without VVD.

Would prefer Dortmund of those left in for a number of reasons incl. atmosphere, the trip and to remind Pulisic what Anfield is like on a European night ;)

Yepp, the group winners play the second leg at home.

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2018, 10:41:02 AM »
Is that a given ?  I was hoping we would be away when we were without VVD.

Would prefer Dortmund of those left in for a number of reasons incl. atmosphere, the trip and to remind Pulisic what Anfield is like on a European night ;)

Why are we without van dijk?

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2018, 10:41:43 AM »
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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2018, 10:49:13 AM »
Porto, Bayern or Ajax please.
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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2018, 10:51:24 AM »
Yepp, the group winners play the second leg at home.

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2018, 11:04:12 AM »
He's suspended.

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2018, 11:17:01 AM »
Juve, Bayern or Ajax just for a new ground. Yes I know we've played at Ajax and Bayern pre season

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2018, 12:13:17 PM »
Madrid or Barcelona please!! ;D

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2018, 12:58:53 PM »
any bring em on would prefer not to get juve but i;ll be there no matter what, would prefer Porto or Madrid as love those cities.

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2018, 02:23:10 PM »
Ajax...wouldn't mind a few nights in Amsterdam

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2018, 03:28:27 PM »
thought Lyon was possible if they top their group over Man City and Juve arnt 100%, Man Utd could still top their group ?
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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2018, 03:32:09 PM »
thought Lyon was possible if they top their group over Man City and Juve arnt 100%, Man Utd could still top their group ?
yep lyon can still top group if they won and man city lose and same for united they need juve not to beat young boys to top group and obbiously then united have to win.

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2018, 10:45:29 PM »
Hardly anything in it but Dortmund most likely Porto least.

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2018, 10:48:19 PM »
Hardly anything in it but Dortmund most likely Porto least.

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thats complete tosh the odds are exactly the same on drawing any of them the only time the odds change are after one team has drawn out and all that does is then put there split onto the other teams

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2018, 10:50:21 PM »
thats complete tosh the odds are exactly the same on drawing any of them the only time the odds change are after one team has drawn out and all that does is then put there split onto the other teams

It’s not because teams can’t draw teams from their own country.
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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2018, 10:50:49 PM »
It’s not because teams can’t draw teams from their own country.
yes but the teams we can draw we have an equal chance of drawing any of the teams we can get

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2018, 11:04:53 PM »
yes but the teams we can draw we have an equal chance of drawing any of the teams we can get

Can’t really be arsed arguing about maths but it’s more nuanced than that.

Porto can be drawn against 7 teams so a 14.2% chance of them drawing each team. But we can only be drawn against 6 teams meaning a 16.66% chance of us drawing each team.

The chances we draw Porto are somewhere in between.
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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2018, 12:55:04 AM »
Can’t really be arsed arguing about maths but it’s more nuanced than that.

Porto can be drawn against 7 teams so a 14.2% chance of them drawing each team. But we can only be drawn against 6 teams meaning a 16.66% chance of us drawing each team.

The chances we draw Porto are somewhere in between.


Boring but: it's combinatorial maths.
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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2018, 07:37:07 AM »
Boring but: it's combinatorial maths.
Using "rook polynomials", did them at uni and hated them. We would have to calculate permutations of chess pieces with certain spaces on the board not available (like the country protection gaps). Hence the name of them.
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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2018, 08:04:03 AM »
Juve, Bayern or Ajax just for a new ground. Yes I know we've played at Ajax and Bayern pre season

Juve or Bayern then. Is 81 the last time we played Bayern competitively?

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2018, 12:40:43 PM »
Ajax would have been boss, although 100s of divvies would jump on and go over there too. Going back to Munich would be a laugh, straight back to hoffbrauhaus. Not really interested in going back to Porto or Dortmund. Barca is always fun, but be an incredibly tough game and looks like their stewards are c*nts on top of the usual Spanish police bullshit judging by videos from Spurs/Chelsea the last time they went.

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Re: Round of 16 draw
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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2018, 11:24:11 PM »
Allocations wise what are we looking at:
Dortmund 3400
Barcelona 4600
Porto 3200
Bayern 3500
Real 4000
Juventus 2000

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2018, 09:43:07 AM »
Allocations wise what are we looking at:
Dortmund 3400
Barcelona 4600
Porto 3200
Bayern 3500
Real 4000
Juventus 2000
so juve would be the only one that would sell out on this seasons allocations but there would obviously be loads of spares flying around for that one!

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2018, 11:17:27 AM »
Seen LFC play at most of them - Dortmund, Real, Porto.
Seen non-LFC games or stadium tours at Barca, and Bayern.

Only Juventus I've never seen. You'd hope if it's arranged like Rome there's no issues surely.

Home first leg? Never knew that. A lot on the first leg then as we've been dreadful away in Europe.

Some massive allocations there.

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2018, 11:18:53 AM »
so juve would be the only one that would sell out on this seasons allocations but there would obviously be loads of spares flying around for that one!

I don't even think half of todays fans are even aware of this part of our history.

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2018, 12:04:21 PM »
I don't even think half of todays fans are even aware of this part of our history.

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2018, 12:41:01 PM »
Seen LFC play at most of them - Dortmund, Real, Porto.
Seen non-LFC games or stadium tours at Barca, and Bayern.

Only Juventus I've never seen. You'd hope if it's arranged like Rome there's no issues surely.

Home first leg? Never knew that. A lot on the first leg then as we've been dreadful away in Europe.

Some massive allocations there.
JUVE was absolutely horrible last time probably the worst i've ever been too if we did get them again i aint one for doing organised day trips but i'd be seriously considering it for that game

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2018, 12:47:23 PM »
JUVE was absolutely horrible last time probably the worst i've ever been too if we did get them again i aint one for doing organised day trips but i'd be seriously considering it for that game

Can you let us know the issues you faced so everyone is aware of potential problems and how to avoid etc?

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2018, 06:48:48 AM »
JUVE was absolutely horrible last time probably the worst i've ever been too if we did get them again i aint one for doing organised day trips but i'd be seriously considering it for that game

Yep, that was the worst one I ever did too, worse than Rome in early 2000's in my opinion, outside the ground that night was like a war zone!

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« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2018, 07:29:17 AM »
Can you let us know the issues you faced so everyone is aware of potential problems and how to avoid etc?

Coaches being smashed up while having a police escort, petrol bombs being thrown at us along with other things
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« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2018, 09:44:44 AM »
Coaches being smashed up while having a police escort, petrol bombs being thrown at us along with other things
basically this, police stood in middle of city whilst juve fans trying to attack us but doing abosolutely nothing apart from what looked like to me encourage it

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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2018, 11:24:03 AM »
Based on Rome and Naples being well organised and safe (if not perfect, and very lengthy), do we see any reason why in today's era Juventus would not be the same?
LFC seem to go to great effort these days to ensure our safety - should we not feel more confident this time around that it will be well planned?

Let's hope it's Dortmund instead. (There's an interesting street near the station as well that's worth a visit).  ;)


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Re: Round of 16 draw
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2018, 12:01:22 PM »
Based on Rome and Naples being well organised and safe (if not perfect, and very lengthy), do we see any reason why in today's era Juventus would not be the same?
LFC seem to go to great effort these days to ensure our safety - should we not feel more confident this time around that it will be well planned?

Let's hope it's Dortmund instead. (There's an interesting street near the station as well that's worth a visit).  ;)


JUVE i'd be extremely more concerned with no matter what plans are put in place but fingers crossed we dont get em anyway

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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2018, 03:44:38 PM »
All trips will be reasonably priced flights and accom wise as well, maybe Porto the most pain the arse out of all them?