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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #680 on: April 18, 2019, 10:48:01 PM »
Been through this thread with a fine tooth comb....haha great stuff!
Hmm not all of it! Some of the comments have been a bit cut-throat, some a bit close to the bone.... only a few have displayed the razor-sharp wit we're used to seeing from scousers.

It hasn't shaped up the way I thought it would. Seems to have faded away into oblivion if I'm honest.
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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #681 on: April 19, 2019, 07:57:36 AM »
Hmm not all of it! Some of the comments have been a bit cut-throat, some a bit close to the bone.... only a few have displayed the razor-sharp wit we're used to seeing from scousers.

It hasn't shaped up the way I thought it would. Seems to have faded away into oblivion if I'm honest.

Haha....very good, you been dying to write that!
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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #682 on: April 19, 2019, 10:54:19 AM »
Haha....very good, you been dying to write that!
Nah, I've got a creative 'streak' in me....it always comes out, as long as no one's been giving me the 'hairdryer' treatment..
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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #685 on: April 30, 2019, 01:55:36 PM »
I would say that on the list of things to get worked up about, that is quite low down, mate. ;D

Absolutely amazing player. People talk about Messi being one of a kind, never to be seen again, and I think Stevie is in that category for Liverpool. People genuinely talk about Scholes being better, pfffft. Only a blinkered United fan, or a hipster like those who insist Pirlo is better than Xavi could think that.

Xavi was better than Pirlo. Not by a lot though.

Gerrard was better than Scholes. And it wasn't even close. Arrogant Manc heads talk about League titles, but look at the disparity in individual accolades. 8 Times PL Team of the year to what? 2 or 3? Count how many Ballon d'Or nominations/votes either got over the years.

It wasn't even close. Scholes had exceptional passing ability, but that was it. He was utterly disastrous in defense, didn't score much, didn't drive his team much, and was nowhere near a leader Stevie was. Scholes, in ordinary teams would've been a good player, nothing more. Gerrard lifted our ordinary sides to levels higher for years and years, won games against way superior oppositions on his own, time & again.

Considering all that, Scholes is a myth.
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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #686 on: May 1, 2019, 01:14:43 PM »
Xavi was better than Pirlo. Not by a lot though.

Gerrard was better than Scholes. And it wasn't even close. Arrogant Manc heads talk about League titles, but look at the disparity in individual accolades. 8 Times PL Team of the year to what? 2 or 3? Count how many Ballon d'Or nominations/votes either got over the years.

It wasn't even close. Scholes had exceptional passing ability, but that was it. He was utterly disastrous in defense, didn't score much, didn't drive his team much, and was nowhere near a leader Stevie was. Scholes, in ordinary teams would've been a good player, nothing more. Gerrard lifted our ordinary sides to levels higher for years and years, won games against way superior oppositions on his own, time & again.

Considering all that, Scholes is a myth.
I broadly agree with that.

And would add that:

Even Iniesta is arguably greater than Pirlo.

It's interesting that many people can suggest players that were/are like Scholes.
But fewer can suggest players that were/are like Stevie.
That is telling in itself.

Plus, Scholes "bottled" it as manager of Oldham, whilst Stevie is still going strong at Rangers :D
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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #687 on: May 1, 2019, 01:15:57 PM »
And if anyone can be accused of having the same haircut throughout their entire career, it's Scholes!
And not Stevie!
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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #688 on: June 6, 2019, 03:51:15 PM »
Following the unnecessary shit stirring by Melissa Reddy recently when we should all have been heady basking in our return to European glory, some have suggested Steven Gerrard could step in as manager when Klopp decides to take time off.

For some reason, perhaps an impression I got from reading Gerrard's autobiography, I have not been convinced that he can be an elite manager for Liverpool. Correct me if I am wrong, but has anyone seen anything in his Rangers team to see a great manager there, who can lead Liverpool Football Club to more glory?

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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #689 on: June 6, 2019, 04:11:36 PM »
Following the unnecessary shit stirring by Melissa Reddy recently when we should all have been heady basking in our return to European glory, some have suggested Steven Gerrard could step in as manager when Klopp decides to take time off.

For some reason, perhaps an impression I got from reading Gerrard's autobiography, I have not been convinced that he can be an elite manager for Liverpool. Correct me if I am wrong, but has anyone seen anything in his Rangers team to see a great manager there, who can lead Liverpool Football Club to more glory?

Not at the Klopp level. But he's at least being sensible in the job at Rangers (read: old school) in building a defence first. I haven't seen anything from the Rangers attack, though, to say that he has any real attacking "philosophy", though. Having said that, defensive-counterattack is never usually a bad way to play.
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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #690 on: June 6, 2019, 04:14:03 PM »
Way too early to judge Gerrard as a manager but he hasn't embarrassed himself so far.  I'd want to see him 1) succeed with Rangers and 2) follow it up more success at another club before considering him for Liverpool.
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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #691 on: June 6, 2019, 07:48:40 PM »
Only just watched the Documentary, he absolutely wants the top job one day

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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #692 on: July 17, 2019, 08:38:18 AM »
Can't believe the amount of people who want him to manage us after Klopp. The mind boggles.

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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #693 on: July 17, 2019, 08:42:18 AM »
Can't believe the amount of people who want him to manage us after Klopp. The mind boggles.

Klopp could be here for another 5-10 years and in that time Gerrard may have excelled in a non farmers league and actually be offered the job on merit.


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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #694 on: July 17, 2019, 09:39:13 AM »
Klopp could be here for another 5-10 years and in that time Gerrard Craig Bellamy may have excelled in a non farmers league and actually be offered the job on merit.

Fixed that for you. to be honest we should just wait and see how he does, rather than start speculating based on a decent but ultimately futile season in SPL. There are so many players (or non players) that can become the next great managers in the future.

I am pretty sure no one predicted Klopp was going to be such a great manager 20 years ago, same can be said of Guardiola (although he had slightly better playing career than Klopp). For every Zidane and Ancelotti there are 100 Gary Nevilles.
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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #695 on: July 17, 2019, 01:26:17 PM »


I am pretty sure no one predicted Klopp was going to be such a great manager 20 years ago, same can be said of Guardiola (although he had slightly better playing career than Klopp).

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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #696 on: July 17, 2019, 01:45:07 PM »
The Cardigan was a far better player than The Jurgen

I'm pretty sure the comment was in jest  :D

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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #697 on: July 18, 2019, 10:44:56 AM »
The Cardigan was a far better player than The Jurgen

For sure, but no one could say based on his playing career that this man would one day become one of the finest managers in the world. Gerrard's playing career should have no influence on how favorably he is seen as a candidate for the managerial position. Only his managerial and coaching abilities. I doubt many would have been happy with some one like Neil Lennon as Liverpool coach when he was tearing it in SPL.

Stevie needs to prove himself over a period of time and showcase his ability to improve players, implement a system and get results. He will need to do it at a higher level than SPL too at some stage, before I am comfortable in saying that he would make a good manger for LFC.

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Re: Steven Gerrard
« Reply #698 on: July 18, 2019, 03:36:19 PM »
For sure, but no one could say based on his playing career that this man would one day become one of the finest managers in the world. Gerrard's playing career should have no influence on how favorably he is seen as a candidate for the managerial position. Only his managerial and coaching abilities. I doubt many would have been happy with some one like Neil Lennon as Liverpool coach when he was tearing it in SPL.

Stevie needs to prove himself over a period of time and showcase his ability to improve players, implement a system and get results. He will need to do it at a higher level than SPL too at some stage, before I am comfortable in saying that he would make a good manger for LFC.

Agree with all that, was mostly just seizing upon another abundant opportunity to mock Pip...
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