Author Topic: Jamie Carragher  (Read 48239 times)

Online bird_lfc

  • Would much rather have a good wank than get behind the team.
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,764
  • JFT96
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #720 on: September 27, 2018, 03:57:04 PM »
amazing fume in here

Ironic that it was started by someone labelling him an Evertonian too, the king of the fume.

For me, he wants to be the amazing pundit everyone loves and thinks is a laugh - but is worried of speaking positively of Liverpool in fear of being labelled biased.

Anyone who questions his love for the club is a muppet, he’s still clearly a fan

Offline Hellrazor

  • Dreams of a handjob from Timmy Mallett. Chronicler of seasons past. Cares more than Prelude Nr 5, or does he?
  • RAWK Scribe
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,716
  • Take me 2 the magic of the moment on a glory night
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #721 on: September 27, 2018, 03:59:48 PM »
Ironic that it was started by someone labelling him an Evertonian too, the king of the fume.

For me, he wants to be the amazing pundit everyone loves and thinks is a laugh - but is worried of speaking positively of Liverpool in fear of being labelled biased.

Anyone who questions his love for the club is a muppet, he’s still clearly a fan
i think he has done well as a pundit, enjoy him and neville

they do their best not to be biased

as RR said though he was lucky to keep his job after spitgate
yer ma should have called you Paolo Zico Gerry Socrates HELLRAZOR

Offline Rick-40

  • Might be missing a 'p'. If found, please return to RAWK Towers in a stamped SAE for a reward.
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,198
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #722 on: September 27, 2018, 04:56:19 PM »
Fabregas almost grabbed the ball with both hands, and he said not a penalty - and bunch of other stuff that others have mentioned. Seriously i can't stand the guy, and i lost all my respect for him.
P

Bob Paisley and Bill Shankly,
The Fields of Anfield Road,
We are loyal supporters,
And we come from around the world!

Allez, Allez, Allez...

Online Kenny's Jacket

  • Talks more sense than me.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,885
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #723 on: September 27, 2018, 07:09:40 PM »
I could if it was Paul Pogba. Ultimately, Carra's job as a pundit isn't to represent the club or be some Ian Wright-type superfan, it's to be objective so all the viewers can get something out of it. I don't really get people calling him a sellout - it's not like he's going on LFC TV and slagging off players or plugging the Sun.

But hes not even remotely objective, hes just a twat with a microphone who spouts constantly contradictory shite.

No, but he'll be ok hiring a NOTW journo


Online red_Mark1980

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,352
  • J.F.T.96
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #724 on: September 27, 2018, 07:28:13 PM »
Lot of Armchair warriors in here currently.

The times I hear or see him he's always saying "we" and "us"

Go for a run or switch the TV guys and girls

Offline Pradan

  • Sarcastic besserwisser. Would certainly pick a fight with himself in an empty room.
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,011
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #725 on: September 27, 2018, 07:55:37 PM »
Quite a few of the ex-players do seem to have an axe to grind. I do wonder if there's a worry that this side could surpass their achievements. Carragher, Hamann and Murphy are particularly bad. Owen too.

Nonsense.

Offline Coolie High

  • bury Regular. My opinions are facts, FYI. (whisper it but doesn't understand midfielders)
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,776
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #726 on: September 27, 2018, 09:13:38 PM »
That's the worst one for me. Imagine Karius was a United player: could you ever imagine Neville piling in with Carragher to attack a United player? Not a chance in hell. I have more respect for Neville than Carragher because he doesn't hide his love for United.

Well he was hardly warm to De Gea?

Offline Eel Lobo

  • Chief Suck Up. Feel his breath on your face.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 30,148
  • Buck Dancer
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #727 on: September 28, 2018, 12:22:27 AM »
I believe the average spend will go up £5 ahead and that’s being very conservative. So that’s £185k. Then you have a new 25k who will spend £10 a head that’s £250k. This is without the massively enhanced hospitality areas.

Offline LallanaInPyjamas

  • Keita's shit, Bundesligas shit
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,837
  • Everyone loves a Luis
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #728 on: September 28, 2018, 09:35:44 AM »
This is what annoys me about him. After Spurs beat Utd he went off on one about why isn't anyone talking about Spurs challenging City, that everyone is talking about Liverpool but Spurs have finished ahead of them the past few years etc. And then, after Spurs lose to Liverpool he's saying that they're not good enough, worried about the lack of quality in their squad and so on, and that they're not going to win a trophy

And he's done this numerous times as well. Whichever way the wind is blowing. Only thing I took from him being so excited about the Hazard goal last night is because he's recently said Hazard is the best player in the league, so that goal last night proved it for him. He even said 2 or 3 times during the replays, "that's why I've said he's the best player in the league". Give it a month of Salah scoring every game and he'll change his mind again.

Yep, agree with this. Loved him as a footballer, and whether he acts like a die-hard Liverpool fan or completely objective as a pundit doesn't bother me in the slightest. But I do think he is very knee-jerk and therefore I don't take him too seriously.

Also think he can be very rude - everyone loved that video of him eye-rolling Redknapp, for example, whereas I was watching it thinking what a self-important dick.
Better than the Invincibles.
Better than Mourinho's Chelsea.
Better than the fables Man Utd Treble team.

I'm alright with that.

Offline Black Bull Nova

  • emo
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,536
  • In a squeeze play on the cheesy side of town
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #729 on: September 28, 2018, 07:34:30 PM »
In his heart of hearts, he's still an Everton fan.

Let's face it, he's a bit thick as well, never mattered too much when he was a player, now we all get to hear it.
aarf, aarf, aarf.

Offline Roughie Scouse

  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 851
  • We go again
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #730 on: September 28, 2018, 10:29:55 PM »
A lot of shite on this thread, Carra you keep doing what you’re doing, YNWA
"There are places I'll remember all my life"  The Beatles,  ISTANBUL 2005

Offline Rick-40

  • Might be missing a 'p'. If found, please return to RAWK Towers in a stamped SAE for a reward.
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,198
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #731 on: September 29, 2018, 06:45:45 AM »
A lot of shite on this thread, Carra you keep doing what you’re doing, YNWA

And what is that, bashing Liverpool and at the same time praising and defending our opponents?
P

Bob Paisley and Bill Shankly,
The Fields of Anfield Road,
We are loyal supporters,
And we come from around the world!

Allez, Allez, Allez...

Online Mr.Savage

  • Main Stander
  • **
  • Posts: 233
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #732 on: October 12, 2018, 11:56:44 AM »
Anybody in here buy tickets to the show organised by 5 times co in St. Helens? It was meant to be on 28th September but received an email saying it was postponed on 13th September and have heard nothing since. Tried to tweet them and Facebook message them but heard nothing back

Online DelTrotter

  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,602
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #733 on: December 21, 2018, 10:11:39 PM »
Christ, he's unbearable.

Offline MD1990

  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 903
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #734 on: December 21, 2018, 10:44:35 PM »
Goes overboard for the oposition team when talking about Liverpool.

Wolves had a good spell & it was like they were missing sitters.

Offline Gerry Attrick

  • Sancho's dad. Tight-arse, non-jackpot-sharing get :)
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 37,239
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #735 on: December 21, 2018, 10:46:17 PM »
If you weren't watching and were just listening while doing some ironing or something you'd think we were under the cosh by Barcelona circa 2009 in that first half. Saying they were causing us real problems with their fullbacks. Every shot on target Alisson barely had to move for and it was hardly a barrage. He's absolutely dogshit at commentating on football matches.

Offline So... Howard Phillips

  • Penile Toupé Extender
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,718
  • All I want for Christmas is a half and half scarf
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #736 on: December 21, 2018, 10:46:35 PM »
Christ, he's unbearable.

His bending over to appear neutral is obviously affecting his sunny, cheerful personality.

Offline LovelyCushionedHeader

  • Not so pleasant non-upholstered footer
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,671
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #737 on: December 21, 2018, 10:58:10 PM »
The worst part was when he started criticising Alisson for only parrying out a deflected shot. Was berating him for it, then saw the deflection but carried on regardless.
And if the rain stops, and everything's dry.. she would cry, just so I could drink tears from her eyes.

Online acks

  • Anny Roader
  • ***
  • Posts: 457
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #738 on: December 21, 2018, 11:54:58 PM »
The worst part was when he started criticising Alisson for only parrying out a deflected shot. Was berating him for it, then saw the deflection but carried on regardless.

After the game he said that Virgil had improved Liverpool but it's still early days for Alisson, which is a bizarre thing to say considering how much he's contributed to this improvement with his clean sheets and match winning saves.

Offline Tuco Ramírez

  • Kemlynite
  • *
  • Posts: 27
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #739 on: December 22, 2018, 03:28:32 AM »
I don't  think its Carra trying to be unbiased, I just think he's a terrible pundit/ Co commentator...

He's equally bad in non LFC games... he's always pushing a narrative that often doesn't match whats happening on the pitch.

Offline Skidder.

  • Minster. Aka The Censored Baron XII. I remember watching that as a skid!
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,382
  • Kloppite
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #740 on: December 27, 2018, 07:59:35 AM »
Oh Jesus.

Carragher always gets stick on this forum.

Got stick as a player, got stick as a person, gets stick as a pundit.

The argument of him being too unbiased is extremely daft. He's a scouser on one of the biggest sports channels and...

Well, that might be it right there.  :butt

There'll be half of scousers jealous of a scouser doing well for himself (on TV), and there'll be half of Liverpool fans seething jealous of his scouseness and lack of zealousness (which is a weird little paradigm in itself...).
Likes his new name.

Offline Enders

  • Game. Has a thing for Edward Colanderhands
  • No new LFC topics
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,485
  • Allez! Allez! Allez!
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #741 on: December 27, 2018, 11:14:48 AM »
Nah, nothing to do with him being a Scouser or a red legend - he simply talks bollocks most of the time.
“He was a very good customer. He was just the three bottles of semi-skimmed. They didn’t have to be placed zonally on his step or anything. He was happy to have a chat and he would always look after you at Christmas.”

Offline So... Howard Phillips

  • Penile Toupé Extender
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,718
  • All I want for Christmas is a half and half scarf
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #742 on: December 27, 2018, 11:58:12 AM »
Nah, nothing to do with him being a Scouser or a red legend - he simply talks bollocks most of the time.

Don't all pundits?

Online Die Nullfünfer

  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,614
  • Es wird wieder passieren
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #743 on: December 27, 2018, 02:17:24 PM »
Don't all pundits?

most seem too!

There does seem an inordinate amount of ex Liverpool players who are really shit pundits though, and Carragher falls into that category. Although I'm sure a lot of other team's fans think the same of their ex-players!
Wir brauchen viele Jahre, bis wir verstehen, wie kostbar Augenblicke sein können.

Offline Eel Lobo

  • Chief Suck Up. Feel his breath on your face.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 30,148
  • Buck Dancer
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #744 on: December 27, 2018, 02:24:59 PM »
Oh Jesus.

Carragher always gets stick on this forum.

Got stick as a player, got stick as a person, gets stick as a pundit.

The argument of him being too unbiased is extremely daft. He's a scouser on one of the biggest sports channels and...

Well, that might be it right there.  :butt

There'll be half of scousers jealous of a scouser doing well for himself (on TV), and there'll be half of Liverpool fans seething jealous of his scouseness and lack of zealousness (which is a weird little paradigm in itself...).

That’s it!!!

It’s the same with McManaman and Owen, just pure jealousy towards three fine pundits
I believe the average spend will go up £5 ahead and that’s being very conservative. So that’s £185k. Then you have a new 25k who will spend £10 a head that’s £250k. This is without the massively enhanced hospitality areas.

Offline Alf

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,411
  • Leader of Alf Quaida & the Scaliban
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #745 on: December 27, 2018, 02:28:55 PM »
I've only got positive things to say about Carra, 2nd on all our time appearances list who played his part in one of the greatest nights in the clubs history.

Offline Zlen

  • Suspicious of systems. But getting lots.
  • RAWK Scribe
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,993
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #746 on: December 27, 2018, 02:32:01 PM »
That’s it!!!

It’s the same with McManaman and Owen, just pure jealousy towards three fine pundits

;D

Offline RJH

  • doesn't know his alphabet
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 7,026
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #747 on: December 27, 2018, 08:13:01 PM »
I've only got positive things to say about Carra, 2nd on all our time appearances list who played his part in one of the greatest nights in the clubs history.

Of course - who could forgot Trabzonspor?

Offline Alf

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,411
  • Leader of Alf Quaida & the Scaliban
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #748 on: January 2, 2019, 08:38:08 PM »
Of course - who could forgot Trabzonspor?

Exactly, think of all those fans who wouldn't have that beach towel Roy Hodgson arranged for them to be sent after that famous victory.

Offline The 1989 Brit Awards

  • He may be of thome aththithtanthe if there ith a thudden kwaithith!
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,514
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #749 on: January 3, 2019, 02:34:30 PM »
And what is that, bashing Liverpool and at the same time praising and defending our opponents?
you'd almost think he's working for LFCTV or some in-house service,

Oh

Offline rob1966

  • YORKIE bar-munching, hedgehog-squashing (well-)articulated road-hog-litter-bug. Sleeping With The Enemy. Has felt the wind and shed his anger..... did you know I drive a Jag?
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,553
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #750 on: January 3, 2019, 05:15:40 PM »
I loved Carra as a player and am not one of those people who are jealous of success, in fact I like seeing people do well for themselves when they have worked for it.
If you judge Carra solely on his punditry, then to me he is a bit shit. Last couple of games I've watched that he has been co-commentator on, he's been sucked into the whole hype Man Utd trap and sometimes talks like he does know the game. I do wonder if the whole spitting thing is affecting his work?

Offline AndyMuller

  • Has always wondered how to do it. Rice, Rice, Baby. Wants to have George Michael.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 7,074
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #751 on: January 4, 2019, 02:52:32 PM »
Remember when he used to have the ball at his feet in our half and do that weird chip to absolutely nobody all the time?

Done my head in that, grim times.

Offline JP!

  • A miserable bastard
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,052
  • Save us Fowler
    • John Porter Comedy
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #752 on: January 9, 2019, 09:37:51 PM »
Good player. Blert of a pundit.
http://jportercomedy.tk/

RIP Ray Osbourne & The 96 (Justice)

Online Jon2lfc

  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 878
  • It's a blessing to be a Red :)
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #753 on: February 6, 2019, 05:36:25 PM »
Remember when he used to have the ball at his feet in our half and do that weird chip to absolutely nobody all the time?

Done my head in that, grim times.
Hahaha I don't know why this made me laugh so much!
True it's true.

Well i think it came off once at anfield - that chip he did to Torres for that Blackburn wonder goal in 08/09
Dalglish - Barnes - Beardsley - McManaman - Fowler - Owen - Gerrard - Torres - Suarez - Salah - Mane

Online Jon2lfc

  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 878
  • It's a blessing to be a Red :)
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #754 on: February 6, 2019, 05:42:36 PM »
He was never a world class defender. But he had buckets of passion and commitment and truly represented the club well. That's why we love him.
For some reason it's hard to find a decent highlight reel of him. His best days were under Houllier when he was a lot more mobile and versatile.

As a pundit, he does seem to try to over-compensate for his obvious love for the club. But I like his attritional style behind the camera. At least he doesn't act like a lot of the other ones do.

And yes of course he will always be a blue. In the same way we would always be reds even if we played for the blues.
But i think he said in his bio that what turned him away from the blues was how their fans treated him. So it was a reaction to treatment. But his heart is obviously still there. He just doesn't chime with their fans. He's with ours and our club. But he would definitely cheer Everton winning something, even privately. Whereas we wouldn't.
Dalglish - Barnes - Beardsley - McManaman - Fowler - Owen - Gerrard - Torres - Suarez - Salah - Mane

Online Bjornar

  • Anny Roader
  • ***
  • Posts: 478
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #755 on: February 8, 2019, 02:20:03 PM »
His best days were under Houllier

Disagree with this, he went from being a steady but limited full-back under Houllier to a top class (if not quite world class) centre-back under Rafa in my opinion.
Welcome to Bologna on Capital Gold for England versus San Marino with Tennent's Pilsner, brewed with Czechoslovakian yeast for that extra Pilsner taste and England are one down.

Online BIG DICK NICK

  • is a cushy number for the Plod who work in this largely crime free suburb. Ate two, Brucey. Thread locker extraordinaire. Might answer to Nick CRoxy. Imaginary cock prognosticator. Has experience of being a bit of a twat. VERY well drilled at the back!
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 70,110
  • Poultry in Motion
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #756 on: February 8, 2019, 02:33:39 PM »
Disagree with this, he went from being a steady but limited full-back under Houllier to a top class (if not quite world class) centre-back under Rafa in my opinion.


I’d agree with that. His performance in the Away leg of the first Chelsea semi final was amazing. He reacted to everything and helped snuff them out. It was a level of performance that you couldn’t have predicted even a couple of years earlier.

Houllier absolutely loved him though and he did a sterling job for us across the back four for him. But I’d say his best years were 2004-09.

Offline Hellrazor

  • Dreams of a handjob from Timmy Mallett. Chronicler of seasons past. Cares more than Prelude Nr 5, or does he?
  • RAWK Scribe
  • Believer
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,716
  • Take me 2 the magic of the moment on a glory night
Re: Jamie Carragher
« Reply #757 on: February 8, 2019, 02:51:28 PM »
I’d agree with that. His performance in the Away leg of the first Chelsea semi final was amazing. He reacted to everything and helped snuff them out. It was a level of performance that you couldn’t have predicted even a couple of years earlier.

Houllier absolutely loved him though and he did a sterling job for us across the back four for him. But I’d say his best years were 2004-09.
they were absolutely his best years, he was one of the best in europe at that point.

shuffled along the back line well too under houllier, he was getting better each year until houllier left.
yer ma should have called you Paolo Zico Gerry Socrates HELLRAZOR