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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3400 on: April 24, 2019, 07:40:23 PM »
I think the main difference between Trent and Gomez in terms of strengths and weaknesses is that one (Gomez) is a centre back and one (TAA) is a full back. This obviously means that they'll have different skills required for their positions and why I much prefer Trent to be at right back if possible.

Trent is much more effective in attack than Gomez, who seems to have a more defensive mindset and is generally better at the defensive side of things. Our system requires the full backs to contribute a lot in attack and TAA does this really well. This could be partly down to him originally being a midfielder, therefore he could be more attack minded than Gomez, who is superior as a defender.

Gomez seems to be a lot calmer as well. This isn't to say that Trent isn't but at times, it's common for one mistake for him to lead to a few more. Gomez on the other hand, seems to have a calmness which may have come partly from playing alongside VVD but that I think he had even before then. This means that in general, he has better passing, although Trent is clearly better at crossing as seen by his number of assists.

They're both really good players but I think they should be utilised in different ways to suit these strengths. In my opinion, Gomez should only be used as a right back if Trent is unavailable.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3401 on: April 25, 2019, 01:10:14 PM »
You'd want Trent at right back in the vast majority of our games due to the attacking threat he brings.

In a much smaller amount of games you'd want Gomez (or a more defence minded RB) playing there.

Trent can be a bit inconsistent but he quality is undoubted. To be this good at 20 shows his talent. IMO, he's easily the best young player we've had since Gerrard.

To be fair, Sterling was quite ridiculously good at this age as well.

I don't think Trent is inconsistent at all. His bad games are a 6 at worst, he has never been roasted (like Zaha has done Milner for example) ever since he became a regular for us and he has had difficult opponents like Sane, Sanchez (at Arsenal), Neymar, Hazard, Coman, Ribery, Insigne etc. His decent games are 7s & he hits 8s and 9s quite regularly as well with his general defending & his frequent involvement in our attacks & counter-attacks.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3402 on: April 25, 2019, 01:55:56 PM »
To be fair, Sterling was quite ridiculously good at this age as well.

I don't think Trent is inconsistent at all. His bad games are a 6 at worst, he has never been roasted (like Zaha has done Milner for example) ever since he became a regular for us and he has had difficult opponents like Sane, Sanchez (at Arsenal), Neymar, Hazard, Coman, Ribery, Insigne etc. His decent games are 7s & he hits 8s and 9s quite regularly as well with his general defending & his frequent involvement in our attacks & counter-attacks.

Heís not better than Gomez.(who is?) ;D

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3403 on: April 25, 2019, 02:38:31 PM »
To be fair, Sterling was quite ridiculously good at this age as well.

You are correct.

He slipped my mind when posting. He's the player who we've sold in recent years that I regret the most. He's not the best or most influential player we've sold but feels like his sale was avoidable. He's gone to a rival and directly affected our chances of winning things by being their best player.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3404 on: April 25, 2019, 02:42:05 PM »
Heís not better than Gomez.(who is?) ;D

Heís a better RB, Gomez is a better CB

Doesnít really matter though, 20 and 21 years old. Exactly the calibre of youngster we need, shows the others how good you need to be to make it here.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3405 on: April 25, 2019, 02:46:44 PM »
Heís a better RB, Gomez is a better CB

Doesnít really matter though, 20 and 21 years old. Exactly the calibre of youngster we need, shows the others how good you need to be to make it here.

Yes exactly top top youngsters.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3406 on: April 25, 2019, 03:10:13 PM »
Heís a better RB, Gomez is a better CB

Doesnít really matter though, 20 and 21 years old. Exactly the calibre of youngster we need, shows the others how good you need to be to make it here.

Eventually, they'll both turn 28, though...
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3407 on: April 26, 2019, 08:50:13 PM »
Another assist for TAA!

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3408 on: April 26, 2019, 08:50:14 PM »
another assist :D we have best two fullbacks in world football.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3409 on: April 26, 2019, 09:02:12 PM »
Georgeous pass,perfection.

What a player he already is and it's frightening how good he will be.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3410 on: April 26, 2019, 09:42:09 PM »
THERE HE GOES
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3411 on: April 26, 2019, 10:02:08 PM »
Wrong thread mate

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3412 on: April 26, 2019, 10:07:52 PM »
We have the best wing backs in the world. I'll put this in the Robbo thread too.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3413 on: April 26, 2019, 10:11:35 PM »
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3414 on: April 26, 2019, 10:12:42 PM »
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3415 on: April 26, 2019, 10:13:13 PM »
Gerrardesque pass.

Easily best RB in the league and not long until he's the best in Europe.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3416 on: April 26, 2019, 11:19:03 PM »
Wrong thread mate
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3417 on: April 26, 2019, 11:23:12 PM »
THERE HE GOES
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3418 on: April 29, 2019, 10:41:03 AM »
Canít help but feel he should of won PFA young player of the year.

Sterling has been great but heís 24 and has plenty of experience . Not sure he can be  considered Young now.

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« Reply #3419 on: April 29, 2019, 10:49:16 AM »
Canít help but feel he should of won PFA young player of the year.

Sterling has been great but heís 24 and has plenty of experience . Not sure he can be  considered Young now.

It's bollocks that you can still win it at 24.  Just like Kane did a few years back!

Should be a limit of 21/22 I think.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3420 on: April 30, 2019, 06:30:58 AM »
Canít help but feel he should of won PFA young player of the year.

Sterling has been great but heís 24 and has plenty of experience . Not sure he can be  considered Young now.

Sterling has been class and comfortably better than Trent (who has been great). Sterling deserved an award, to be fair to him. Still a little prick, mind.

Plenty of time for Trent to win the award. Still only 20.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3421 on: April 30, 2019, 08:17:12 AM »
Saying "Sterling deserved an award" is a bit nonsensical though isn't it. Planty of people "deserve" them, the whole point of individual awards is that they pick one stand-out player above the rest. There isn't a runner up, and shouldn't be. The YPOTY award needs to be revised. I was having a look around the other day and the general consensus seems to be consistent across all bases - the age range needs to be revised as 24 is no longer young in the modern game, it's getting on for mid-career for some players. I reckon a cap of players turning 23 in THAT season (so at most those that turned 23 between January and May this year, for example) would be a lot more accurate in reflecting and recognizing young breakthrough players, which is the whole point of the thing.


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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3422 on: April 30, 2019, 08:40:15 AM »
Saying "Sterling deserved an award" is a bit nonsensical though isn't it. Planty of people "deserve" them, the whole point of individual awards is that they pick one stand-out player above the rest. There isn't a runner up, and shouldn't be. The YPOTY award needs to be revised. I was having a look around the other day and the general consensus seems to be consistent across all bases - the age range needs to be revised as 24 is no longer young in the modern game, it's getting on for mid-career for some players. I reckon a cap of players turning 23 in THAT season (so at most those that turned 23 between January and May this year, for example) would be a lot more accurate in reflecting and recognizing young breakthrough players, which is the whole point of the thing.

On the contrary, its nonsensical to say he doesn't deserve it. If he is eligible (he is), he clearly deserves it over anyone else eligible.

Whether he should be eligible or not is another discussion entirely. I personally think 21 should be the cut off point.


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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3423 on: April 30, 2019, 08:54:36 AM »
Can’t help but feel he should of won PFA young player of the year.

Sterling has been great but he’s 24 and has plenty of experience . Not sure he can be  considered Young now.

Close call between Trent and Ben Foster for young player of the year I think, the latter has done well this year for his age.

Also think 21 should be the limit for young player of the year - there's plenty of talent around at that age to hand it out then rather than to someone who might be almost half way through their career.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3424 on: April 30, 2019, 12:36:27 PM »
Close call between Trent and Ben Foster for young player of the year I think, the latter has done well this year for his age.

Also think 21 should be the limit for young player of the year - there's plenty of talent around at that age to hand it out then rather than to someone who might be almost half way through their career.

Foster still has time on his hands. I reckon heís in with a shout next year.

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« Reply #3425 on: May 2, 2019, 02:35:52 AM »
I thought he was unlucky to not get selected last night. Feel sorry for the lad that given the season he's had we've not trusted him on the biggest stage. I feel he could have made a difference.
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« Reply #3426 on: May 2, 2019, 08:20:43 AM »
I thought he was unlucky to not get selected last night. Feel sorry for the lad that given the season he's had we've not trusted him on the biggest stage. I feel he could have made a difference.

He'd certainly have produced better dead ball delivery. Milner's corners were rubbish.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3427 on: May 2, 2019, 08:27:30 AM »
One of the mistakes from klopp in our starting lineup. We had Gomez on to shut out Alba but he canít cross a ball like Trent can plus Alba made the assist for the first anyway!!

He was badly missed and Iím sure heíll be disappointed as he should be

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3428 on: May 2, 2019, 01:04:44 PM »
I hilariously got pelted on the previous page for thinking Klopp would go ahead with Gomez. I still think the choice was mainly made cause he thinks Trent is tired and not a trust issue on the biggest stage which is simply not true since he begun the CL final last season was one of our best players. We missed his delivery for sure though and Joe just wasn't good enough.
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« Reply #3429 on: May 2, 2019, 01:10:14 PM »
I hilariously got pelted on the previous page for thinking Klopp would go ahead with Gomez. I still think the choice was mainly made cause he thinks Trent is tired and not a trust issue on the biggest stage which is simply not true since he begun the CL final last season was one of our best players. We missed his delivery for sure though and Joe just wasn't good enough.

Don't know if you're including me in the hilarity cos I did think Klopp doing that would be odd, but I think last night showed my point exactly (which it seems we agreed on).

But still would have been fine with Gomez's pretty good return from injury if we took him off as his shoulders were dropping in the 60+ minutes, and brought TAA on at 0-1 chasing an away goal while keeping the ball reasonably well everywhere except at right back.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3430 on: May 2, 2019, 03:13:38 PM »
Don't know if you're including me in the hilarity cos I did think Klopp doing that would be odd, but I think last night showed my point exactly (which it seems we agreed on).

But still would have been fine with Gomez's pretty good return from injury if we took him off as his shoulders were dropping in the 60+ minutes, and brought TAA on at 0-1 chasing an away goal while keeping the ball reasonably well everywhere except at right back.

Oh believe me, I was asking that as well. I think we needed that sub. Others may have thought that while Gomez was not so good, a right back for a right back would seem a bit of 'waste' of a sub but he is one of our best playmakers.

The hilarity (as in hilariously bad) thing was referring to posting a take and getting pelters and people reaching to mad conclusions. I repeat, for a football take which is wild. It had nothing to do if someone disagreed with it but just the way you go about it. What I found really funny is I would have picked Trent too, it's just what I thought Klopp would do.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3431 on: May 2, 2019, 03:24:50 PM »
One of the biggest compliments I can give him is when he doesn't play, you notice it massively

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3432 on: May 2, 2019, 03:29:27 PM »


The hilarity (as in hilariously bad) thing was referring to posting a take and getting pelters and people reaching to mad conclusions.

One person called it weird, why ya going on like 200 posters were calling you every name under the sun?  ;D

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« Reply #3433 on: May 2, 2019, 03:31:02 PM »
Needs to play next Tuesday. That right side is there for the taking. Just like they didn''t worry about Alba leavign them exposed, we shoudln't be worryign about Trent leaving us exposed. With how high Alba pushes up, that right side is there to be exposed and it will allow Salah to tuck in.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3434 on: May 2, 2019, 03:33:22 PM »
Trent should have been rested for the Huddersfield game and kept fresh for starting the game last night.

Really missed his attacking play last night, Alba must have been happy when he saw Gomez starting.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3435 on: May 2, 2019, 05:30:18 PM »
Needs to play next Tuesday. That right side is there for the taking. Just like they didn''t worry about Alba leavign them exposed, we shoudln't be worryign about Trent leaving us exposed. With how high Alba pushes up, that right side is there to be exposed and it will allow Salah to tuck in.

Based on the game last night, you will have a better attack with TAA and maybe you can put more pressure on Alba to defend, but you will give Messi more of a free reign in the center. That's what Gomez did, help crowd the center so Messi couldn't get too much time on the ball. And it worked, most agree Messi didn't run the game last night, our crowding was effective. It's no surprise when Gomez clearly tired is when Messi made his best runs through the middle.   
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3436 on: May 2, 2019, 05:44:41 PM »
Based on the game last night, you will have a better attack with TAA and maybe you can put more pressure on Alba to defend, but you will give Messi more of a free reign in the center. That's what Gomez did, help crowd the center so Messi couldn't get too much time on the ball. And it worked, most agree Messi didn't run the game last night, our crowding was effective. It's no surprise when Gomez clearly tired is when Messi made his best runs through the middle.   

The issue with that is that it also hinders Robertson as actually all you do is switch your focus to his side and you then have an impaired attack on both flanks.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #3437 on: May 2, 2019, 05:48:59 PM »
I hilariously got pelted on the previous page for thinking Klopp would go ahead with Gomez. I still think the choice was mainly made cause he thinks Trent is tired and not a trust issue on the biggest stage which is simply not true since he begun the CL final last season was one of our best players. We missed his delivery for sure though and Joe just wasn't good enough.

Tired? Even tired TAA is better than rested Gomez at RB. Why he never thinks about Robbo being tired?

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« Reply #3438 on: May 2, 2019, 05:53:28 PM »
One of the mistakes from klopp in our starting lineup.

HIndsight is 20:20. TAA has struggled against a few attackers recently and was taken out of the starting line up as we were up against possibly the best attack in world football.
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« Reply #3439 on: May 2, 2019, 05:58:57 PM »
I hilariously got pelted on the previous page for thinking Klopp would go ahead with Gomez. I still think the choice was mainly made cause he thinks Trent is tired and not a trust issue on the biggest stage which is simply not true since he begun the CL final last season was one of our best players. We missed his delivery for sure though and Joe just wasn't good enough.

You did mate. I was one who laughed at the idea. Sorry!

Although I think maybe it wasn't Jurgen's best decision to date....
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