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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #160 on: September 16, 2012, 04:01:09 PM »
Tottenham fans are ace, remember at Wembley them all booing and chanting 'disgrace' at the Chelsea fans who didn't respect the minutes applause for the 96.

They knew it could have easily have been them, as they'd been in a similar incident in 81 Semi where a few hundred were injured at the same ground

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #161 on: September 16, 2012, 04:02:43 PM »
They knew it could have easily have been them, as they'd been in a similar incident in 81 Semi where a few hundred were injured at the same ground

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #162 on: September 16, 2012, 04:04:44 PM »
didnt know that.

No lateral fences and better pitch access or it would have been them.  Loads of fans on the edge of the pitch as that game gets underway.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #163 on: September 16, 2012, 04:04:59 PM »
didnt know that.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #164 on: September 16, 2012, 04:06:39 PM »
didnt know that.

The you tube clip of the '81 games gainst Wolves is eerie to watch. Dozens needed treatment for crushing that day.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #165 on: September 16, 2012, 04:06:42 PM »
cheers lads, will watch that now. Really didnt have a clue about this.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #166 on: September 16, 2012, 04:08:37 PM »
Quality, so many clubs have been so supportive.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #167 on: September 16, 2012, 04:10:08 PM »
The you tube clip of the '81 games gainst Wolves is eerie to watch. Dozens needed treatment for crushing that day.

The warnings were there but ignored.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #168 on: September 16, 2012, 04:11:40 PM »
The warnings were there but ignored.

horrible video to watch, the text at the end was upsetting. The music as well.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #169 on: September 16, 2012, 04:12:31 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtzHVe2mEN0

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I've read about this before but its the first time I've seen it ,  the FA want fucking - disgusting .
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #170 on: September 16, 2012, 04:13:32 PM »
Quality, so many clubs have been so supportive.

This weeks revelations has opened there eyes to the truth, & the real truth, which us Reds already knew of, but the extent of the cover up has been shocking.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #171 on: September 16, 2012, 04:17:52 PM »
Thanks to Reading and Spurs for that show of class and respect.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #172 on: September 16, 2012, 04:23:25 PM »
No lateral fences and better pitch access or it would have been them.  Loads of fans on the edge of the pitch as that game gets underway.
clip on youtube somewhere.

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Re: Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #174 on: September 16, 2012, 04:28:05 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtzHVe2mEN0

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can't believe they didn't learn some lessons after that ,they really didn't think about the consequences of fencing at all ,and I'm sure there were more incidents that should have set the alarm bells ringing but were just ignored

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #175 on: September 16, 2012, 04:33:04 PM »
can't believe they didn't learn some lessons after that ,they really didn't think about the consequences of fencing at all ,and I'm sure there were more incidents that should have set the alarm bells ringing but were just ignored

still gets me that other countries still use perimeter fences.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #176 on: September 16, 2012, 04:36:15 PM »
Any videos going around of the numerous tributes other clubs did this week? The singing YNWA/applause/messages at the stadium etc.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #177 on: September 16, 2012, 04:44:07 PM »
Speaking of solidarity (and apologies if it has aleady been posted) but this woman (Joanna, a Leicester fan) is bloody wonderful:

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivetime/120913/listen-back-joannas-call-drive-time-about-hillsborough-180842

Says it so much better that I could.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #178 on: September 16, 2012, 04:44:31 PM »
still gets me that other countries still use perimeter fences.

Think some Countries have the type when pressure get's to a level they collapse. Plus some Countries still have a hooligan problem as bad as we did in the 70s & 80s.


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Re: Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #180 on: September 16, 2012, 04:55:05 PM »
still gets me that other countries still use perimeter fences.
didn't realise they still did , suprised another incident hasn't happened if that's the case

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #181 on: September 16, 2012, 04:57:52 PM »
cheers lads, will watch that now. Really didnt have a clue about this.
It was then not used for semi-finals until 1987 when there was...yep...overcrowding (and a delayed kick off), with fans escaping the crush behind the goal by being lifted into the seating area above. If anyone wonders why Leeds fans have often shown solidarity with and understanding of the Justice campaigns, their experiences in 1987 play no small part.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #182 on: September 16, 2012, 05:30:58 PM »
Just one of the hundreds of photos my Da took when the 2 of us went to St James' Park the day after Sir Bobby Robson died.  There were many thousands of scarves, shirts and other stuff left from supporters from many teams from all over the world.  I just took this photo and put the frame round it and put some words on and loaded it up as my avatar on here.  If anyone is upset or offended by what I have done here send a message and I will take it down straight away.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #183 on: September 16, 2012, 05:32:50 PM »
http://tottenhamonmymind.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/hillsborough-the-bond-between-spurs-and-liverpool-fans/

Interesting that a couple of people who left comments mentioned they wrote letters to the FA and Sheffield Wednesday outlining their experiences at that semi-final.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #184 on: September 16, 2012, 05:46:05 PM »
Just one of the hundreds of photos my Da took when the 2 of us went to St James' Park the day after Sir Bobby Robson died.  There were many thousands of scarves, shirts and other stuff left from supporters from many teams from all over the world.  I just took this photo and put the frame round it and put some words on and loaded it up as my avatar on here.  If anyone is upset or offended by what I have done here send a message and I will take it down straight away.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #185 on: September 16, 2012, 05:53:27 PM »
Being a remote fan of LFC, having been brought up in Essex, even I found that I knew nothing of the Hillsborough disaster apart from the official story (which everyone now knows was obviously fabricated). I saw the events unfold on TV, but was force fed the lies from the media, and pretty much swallowed their lies whole. Shocking, I know, but then I've always been more of an armchair fan (going to the odd game here and there) and nobody I knew really discussed the issue.

It wasn't really until I read the Hillsborough forum here a few years ago that I learned the truth, by reading many of the documents on here.
So I can understand supporters of other teams not knowing about the Truth, if some of our own fans like me, didn't really understand.

This weeks revelations have shocked me to the core as I couldn't understand how people who are supposed to protect us could go out of their way to fabricate the story in order to exonerate themselves. It's shocked me that so many could have survived and didn't. It has shocked me that so many people in authority cared so little about football fans that they could let this happen.

I'll never be able to fully understand how the supporters at the game and many who have been affected in Liverpool feel, but I have thought a lot about everyone this week. It really has stunned me.


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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #186 on: September 16, 2012, 06:47:55 PM »
It was then not used for semi-finals until 1987 when there was...yep...overcrowding (and a delayed kick off), with fans escaping the crush behind the goal by being lifted into the seating area above. If anyone wonders why Leeds fans have often shown solidarity with and understanding of the Justice campaigns, their experiences in 1987 play no small part.
And even then they made it out to be the fans at fault, unbelievable.
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2.1.97 C/Supt Mole, the Match Commander, accepted that the delay was partly caused by police operations yet within SYP was a broadly held assumption that some fans chose to arrive late. A 1987 document presented to the Taylor Inquiry within the Association of Chief Police Officers' submission noted that delayed kick-offs were 'another situation where supporters were seen to be forcing the police into taking action against their better judgement'.[115] The document stated that it had 'become increasingly apparent that large numbers of spectators are arriving extremely late at the ground, this may be related to the restricted access to alcohol in grounds and the prohibition on taking alcohol into grounds'. Consequently, to avoid disorder, 'police ground commanders have occasionally requested that the kick-off be delayed' but 'this pressure should not be acceded to in future, the police should not be dictated to by supporters'.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #187 on: September 16, 2012, 07:57:11 PM »
1981, 1987, 1988 and 1989 all had one common theme. The fans of the club with the larger following were put in Leppings Lane.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #188 on: September 16, 2012, 08:15:01 PM »
1981, 1987, 1988 and 1989 all had one common theme. The fans of the club with the larger following were put in Leppings Lane.
The FA are culpable in this, yet seem to be getting away with it.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #189 on: September 16, 2012, 09:07:30 PM »
1981, 1987, 1988 and 1989 all had one common theme. The fans of the club with the larger following were put in Leppings Lane.

That was unfair from an allocation and chance of getting a ticket point of view but it is  a red herring as far as the causes of the disaster are concerned. Nottm Forest would have sold out the 10,100 tickets on the Leppings Lane terrace. Nottm Forest fans would have turned between 1pm and 240pm just as our fans did. Nottm Forest fans would have been caught in a crush outside due to the inadequate turnstiles, just as we did. Then given the same police decisions the Forest fans would have ended up crushed in pens 3 and 4 just as we did.

The FA are culpable of using a ground without a safety certificate, they are culpable of using a ground with loads of green guide breaches for one of their key fixtures, they are culpable of obtaining o use hat ground despite receiving numerous complaints that the Leppings Lane end was unsafe.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #190 on: September 16, 2012, 09:13:27 PM »
Apologies if this is already posted elsewhere:

9/15/2012 FC Dallas fans honor the Liverpool fans who died in the Hillsborough disaster in 1989. Dallas supporters groups fell silent and held signs during the third minute of the match against Vancouver Whitecaps.


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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #191 on: September 16, 2012, 09:21:56 PM »
Just one of the hundreds of photos my Da took when the 2 of us went to St James' Park the day after Sir Bobby Robson died.  There were many thousands of scarves, shirts and other stuff left from supporters from many teams from all over the world.  I just took this photo and put the frame round it and put some words on and loaded it up as my avatar on here.  If anyone is upset or offended by what I have done here send a message and I will take it down straight away.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #192 on: September 16, 2012, 09:33:16 PM »
Apologies if this is already posted elsewhere:

9/15/2012 FC Dallas fans honor the Liverpool fans who died in the Hillsborough disaster in 1989. Dallas supporters groups fell silent and held signs during the third minute of the match against Vancouver Whitecaps.



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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #193 on: September 16, 2012, 09:38:43 PM »
Really touching to see how many fans from other clubs are showing solidarity.

Also (as others have already discussed) I've been surprised at how many of them have been genuinely shocked to hear the findings of the panel, I never actually realised so many people from other clubs had been taken in by the slander and smears...
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #194 on: September 16, 2012, 10:58:46 PM »
http://tottenhamonmymind.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/hillsborough-the-bond-between-spurs-and-liverpool-fans/

Good blog that, symptomatic of the way Football fans were treated in those days, even if you were just going to watch the game & not causing trouble.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #195 on: September 16, 2012, 11:38:40 PM »
Hi all,

As you can probably gather from my name I'm a City season ticket holder from Manchester, and just wanted to post a few thoughts about the events of this week. Firstly, although I'm a manc first and foremost I go to Liverpool Uni, and I love the place and the people. I was in Liverpool on Wednesday and passed by St George's Hall when everything was being set up for the vigil (sadly I had a train to catch or I would have stayed). I was born just under three years after the tragedy but I spent a few minutes at the memorial when we played you at Anfield a few weeks back which hit me hard; looking at the names of kids as young as 10 who went to see their heroes play and never came home. I could never imagine that.

Anyway, I just wanted to say how happy I am for the families of the 96 that the truth has finally been outed, and the lies of Mackenzie and the Scum have been put to bed once and for all. It's taken far, far too long but I hope this sets the wheels in motion for real justice for the 96, and their families. The past week has shown that a sense of camaraderie still exists (for the most part) within the football community. We're not so different; we all love going and watching our teams play, the only variable is the team. I couldn't go to Stoke (as I've spent up on going to Madrid!) but I've heard about gestures of solidarity from both City and Stoke fans from friends who did go, which is testament to this.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #196 on: September 16, 2012, 11:39:29 PM »
Thank you, blue_manc, and welcome.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #197 on: September 17, 2012, 01:55:43 AM »
I did once have an idea for a campaign video of sorts, to try and get  people to understand, to try and put faces on it and have people see it from a different angle and why it effects them as well.

Have 96 fans from other clubs, the same age as each of the 96. Each one appearing in their teams shirt, show them side by side, with a photo of one of the 96 who was the same age as them. Have a caption saying name, age and team and just have each one say "it could of been me" then at the end show them all in a group and have them say in unison "it could of been us, it could been you"

Thankfully I think most have woken up now and realise that.
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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #198 on: September 17, 2012, 10:26:18 AM »
You would have hoped that would have really hit home, considering there are 92 professional clubs in this country.

I haven't really been posting this week, out of not really knowing what to say, as i have no direct personal link to the tragedy as dad was too busy looking after a two year old me that weekend. I've just been reading and reading and reading.

However, i must state that over the past few days, the amount of my friends or colleagues from other clubs who have directly told me about their sorrow, and shock about the whole fucking mess has really warmed me (especially the City, Spurs, Cardiff and to be fair United fans i know).  Thankfully my Bluenose friends never needed educating. So a big thanks to them. The tide of wider public opinion really has turned over night.

And some tasteless left over wind up merchants from the weekend have instantly been called out, they'll be washed out sooner rather than later, i have faith in that. At last, football is one. I hear from my Evertonian brother that there will be a gesture involving the mascots tonight at Goodison. I know there have been some unsavory instances over the last 2 decades regarding Hillsborough and Heysel between both sets of fans, but i can't speak highly enough of the Blues i know of and their attitude and support for the campaign for truth.

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Re: Solidarity from a fan of another club
« Reply #199 on: September 17, 2012, 10:38:45 AM »
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