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Re: Jari Litmanen
« Reply #400 on: November 26, 2018, 11:25:47 PM »
Sturridge V Sevilla is the quintessential example of the 'lost goal' genre, up there with Crespo's second in Istanbul. Still upsets me to this day that Daniel's came to nothing. 

I think that will always be my favourite non Liverpool goal ever. Just perfection. And we beat the guys who did that

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« Reply #401 on: November 26, 2018, 11:38:00 PM »
His goal at Leverkusen is one of our great ‘lost’ goals. Should be talked about as a brilliant individual goal that took us to the semis of the European Cup and instead I’m not even sure I’ve seen it since the night of the game!
One of life's great mysteries on why Houllier took off Hamann when we were leading the tie with about 10 minutes to go.

We threw that tie away on that sole decision, Would have been playing United in the semi's and we were far better than them in the league that season and did the league double over them as well.
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« Reply #402 on: November 26, 2018, 11:42:33 PM »
4-4 vs Arsenal 2009 and 3-3 vs Palace 2014 for me for heartbreaking outcomes, yet at the same time awe-inspiring displays of heart and courage. Band of Brothers-like stuff.

Also the 4-4 CL quarter final against Chelsea in 09, talk about never giving up.
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« Reply #403 on: November 27, 2018, 12:01:05 AM »
I think that will always be my favourite non Liverpool goal ever. Just perfection. And we beat the guys who did that

Is it the best ever assist in a major final? I’m struggling to think of a better one.

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Re: Jari Litmanen
« Reply #404 on: November 27, 2018, 03:00:04 PM »
4-4 vs Arsenal 2009 and 3-3 vs Palace 2014 for me for heartbreaking outcomes, yet at the same time awe-inspiring displays of heart and courage. Band of Brothers-like stuff.

Also the 4-4 CL quarter final against Chelsea in 09, talk about never giving up.

We completely bossed Arsenal in that 4-4 game. It was so 1-sided that they probably only had 4 shots in the whole game.  Unbelievable result.

I have more vivid memories of Chelsea beating us 3-1 at Anfield than I do of the 4-4 which was a disappointing result given how well we started.  Hiddink did to us what we did to many teams that season and completely shut us down on the left flank in particular.
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Re: Jari Litmanen
« Reply #405 on: November 27, 2018, 10:36:13 PM »
We completely bossed Arsenal in that 4-4 game. It was so 1-sided that they probably only had 4 shots in the whole game. 

Haven´t checked, but my guess is that´s true, and if so Arshavin had all four of those shots.

The 4-4 games against Arsenal and Chelsea happened in the same week. In the same period, we scored 4 goals or more in six out of eight games (all important crunch games, not ones where we were coasting). Seems quite strange now, seeing as Rafa is seen by most as quite a  conservative manager in retrospect.

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« Reply #406 on: November 27, 2018, 11:25:06 PM »
The 4-4 games against Arsenal and Chelsea happened in the same week.

I was at both those games and had no recollection they were the same week, no idea how I wasn't broken by it!

Fabianski and Arshavin absolutely fucked us in the Arsenal game. While we were fucked before the Chelsea one kicked off, by Riise's right foot not appearing to work

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« Reply #407 on: November 28, 2018, 04:05:23 PM »
It's true to say that if Shankly had told us to invade Poland we'd be queuing up 10 deep all the way from Anfield to the Pier Head.

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Re: Jari Litmanen
« Reply #408 on: November 29, 2018, 02:37:53 AM »
One of life's great mysteries on why Houllier took off Hamann when we were leading the tie with about 10 minutes to go.

We threw that tie away on that sole decision, Would have been playing United in the semi's and we were far better than them in the league that season and did the league double over them as well.
That game had me gutted. Did Leverkusen go to the final at year? The legendary Zidane volley? That would have been amazing..

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« Reply #409 on: November 29, 2018, 08:48:27 AM »
That game had me gutted. Did Leverkusen go to the final at year? The legendary Zidane volley? That would have been amazing..

Yeah, they knocked United out on Away goals in the semis. Imagine a Champions League semi against United! We’d beaten them 5 times in a row at that point as well (obviously you could argue that would begin to even itself out).

Final was at Hampden.

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« Reply #410 on: November 29, 2018, 12:06:57 PM »
'Lost' for different reasons than the above goals but I've always thought Gerrard's first in the 06 FA Cup Final seems to be forgotten. The way he shapes his body to hit it at an awkward height, the positioning, the power. It's rare to see any shot hit with such ferocity, let alone with such accuracy, let alone in a cup final to equalise.

Obviously it got eclipsed by one of the very best goals in English football history, but still was a beautiful goal.

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« Reply #411 on: November 29, 2018, 01:09:19 PM »
'Lost' for different reasons than the above goals but I've always thought Gerrard's first in the 06 FA Cup Final seems to be forgotten. The way he shapes his body to hit it at an awkward height, the positioning, the power. It's rare to see any shot hit with such ferocity, let alone with such accuracy, let alone in a cup final to equalise.

Obviously it got eclipsed by one of the very best goals in English football history, but still was a beautiful goal.

His assist for Cisse wasn’t half bad either!

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« Reply #412 on: November 30, 2018, 03:58:02 PM »
His assist for Cisse wasn’t half bad either!

Just watched it back, you're right. Completely forgot about it. It's fucking unbelievable. If Alonso or Pirlo had played that ball people would still be talking about it now. With Gerrard, being able to pull off things like that were just a small part of his game! God I miss him.

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« Reply #413 on: November 30, 2018, 04:10:07 PM »
Just watched it back, you're right. Completely forgot about it. It's fucking unbelievable. If Alonso or Pirlo had played that ball people would still be talking about it now. With Gerrard, being able to pull off things like that were just a small part of his game! God I miss him.

Quite similar to the one he created for Owen against Newcastle which often gets brought up. That was more in a plate I guess.

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« Reply #414 on: November 30, 2018, 06:03:38 PM »
Quite similar to the one he created for Owen against Newcastle which often gets brought up. That was more in a plate I guess.

Great shout, that was a beauty as well! Almost as important too iirc - I think that was the goal that secured our place in the 04/05 Champions League.

I love how the Litmanen thread has descended into how awesome Gerrard was. It's like Godwin's Law for Liverpool fans - "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of talking about how fucking brilliant Gerrard was approaches 1".

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« Reply #415 on: November 30, 2018, 06:18:34 PM »
Great shout, that was a beauty as well! Almost as important too iirc - I think that was the goal that secured our place in the 04/05 Champions League.

I love how the Litmanen thread has descended into how awesome Gerrard was. It's like Godwin's Law for Liverpool fans - "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of talking about how fucking brilliant Gerrard was approaches 1".

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« Reply #416 on: November 30, 2018, 11:07:49 PM »
Great shout, that was a beauty as well! Almost as important too iirc - I think that was the goal that secured our place in the 04/05 Champions League.

Nah, we had already qualified. It was getting billed as the game to decide who would qualify for weeks beforehand but then we won 3 on the bounce, including away at Old Trafford, and Newcastle drew with Southampton in the mid-week to put it beyond reach.
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« Reply #417 on: November 30, 2018, 11:39:17 PM »
Would be an amazing sub in this side with all the movement ahead of him

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« Reply #418 on: December 1, 2018, 10:41:44 AM »
Nah, we had already qualified. It was getting billed as the game to decide who would qualify for weeks beforehand but then we won 3 on the bounce, including away at Old Trafford, and Newcastle drew with Southampton in the mid-week to put it beyond reach.

Your memory is better than Gerrard's defence splitting passes!

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Re: Jari Litmanen
« Reply #419 on: October 2, 2019, 12:46:27 PM »
Sad days to be a Finn and see our greatest legend being one of those "not paid by anyone, my opinions are my own" football ambassadors that just happen to visit qatar, and whitewash that shit.


https://sc.qa/en/news/jari-litmanen-learns-more-about-qatar-2022

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« Reply #420 on: October 2, 2019, 03:54:29 PM »
Sad days to be a Finn and see our greatest legend being one of those "not paid by anyone, my opinions are my own" football ambassadors that just happen to visit qatar, and whitewash that shit.


https://sc.qa/en/news/jari-litmanen-learns-more-about-qatar-2022

That's very disappointing. Fucking shill.

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Re: Jari Litmanen
« Reply #421 on: October 2, 2019, 05:04:14 PM »
Sad days to be a Finn and see our greatest legend being one of those "not paid by anyone, my opinions are my own" football ambassadors that just happen to visit qatar, and whitewash that shit.


https://sc.qa/en/news/jari-litmanen-learns-more-about-qatar-2022

Worth noting the Barcelona and Xavi link, yet again. Dodgy as fuck the pair of them. Shame to see Jari playing the useful idiot role.

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« Reply #422 on: October 3, 2019, 02:17:04 AM »
Still got a great head of hair. Lucky bastard.

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« Reply #423 on: October 4, 2019, 09:57:14 PM »
After he was called upon by basicly everyone, journalists, fans, pundits, national team players past and present, he has even defended his actions by bringing up his right of speech. Of defending Qatar.

Question remains, is he just that daft, or he just doesn't care and is trolling everyone.

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Re: Jari Litmanen
« Reply #424 on: May 14, 2020, 01:37:00 PM »
Jari was some player, he never got enough playing time when he was at Liverpool. He was a wonderful player to watch, he had flair, grace, could see things which other players couldn't. I also remembered when he arrived here, he was so happy to be at Liverpool. It was one of the biggest mysteries as to why Gerard Houllier didn't pick him more often. I love the goal he scored against Tottenham, it hit the inside of the bar and went to the other side. Fantastic finish. I have begged James Pearce for an article on him, fingers crossed.

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« Reply #425 on: May 14, 2020, 01:40:53 PM »
Jari was some player, he never got enough playing time when he was at Liverpool. He was a wonderful player to watch, he had flair, grace, could see things which other players couldn't. I also remembered when he arrived here, he was so happy to be at Liverpool. It was one of the biggest mysteries as to why Gerard Houllier didn't pick him more often. I love the goal he scored against Tottenham, it hit the inside of the bar and went to the other side. Fantastic finish. I have begged James Pearce for an article on him, fingers crossed.

This is levelled at Houllier a lot but Litmanen featured consistently from when he signed to mid March when he picked up an injury that ruled him out for the rest of the season. He was maybe under used a bit in 01/02 but having had that time off injured it was inevitable he would fall behind the Owen/Heskey pecking order a bit although he did still score some important goals that season around Christmas and into the run in (Fulham away, and obviously Leverkusen).

He was so good to watch though. I remember him pulling the strings in that 5-0 hammering of Palace and he was so in tune with the likes of Fowler and Smicer. Villa away was another when he set up Gerrard and Murphy.

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« Reply #426 on: May 14, 2020, 01:49:21 PM »
Love Ged...but he was not the best at making choices with his attacking players. Pretty grim that we ended up with Owen, Heskey, Diouf and Baros when we’d had Fowler, Litmanen and Anelka shortly before.
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« Reply #427 on: May 14, 2020, 01:57:19 PM »
Love Ged...but he was not the best at making choices with his attacking players. Pretty grim that we ended up with Owen, Heskey, Diouf and Baros when we’d had Fowler, Litmanen and Anelka shortly before.

On paper that doesn’t look great! And Diouf over Anelka is the obvious howler.

Jari left for Ajax in 2002 and only made 20 League appearances in 2 seasons, scoring 5 goals (according to Wiki). It’s not like we sold him in his prime, or like selling Beardsley to Everton. The ideal scenario would have been signing him from Ajax, rather than Barca and having him for longer, earlier in his career but sadly wasn’t to be.
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« Reply #428 on: May 14, 2020, 02:02:09 PM »
The biggest mistake was not signing Anelka.

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« Reply #429 on: May 14, 2020, 02:05:02 PM »
Crikey, if we’d had Owen, Fowler, Heskey and Litmanen in 97 we’d have been unstoppable. Although still all decent in 2000, arguably 3 of them were past their best. Various skill sets between them, I always would have liked to have seen a little bit more of Litmanen with Owen.

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« Reply #430 on: May 14, 2020, 02:39:20 PM »
Peak Fowler and Jari would have been too much filth
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« Reply #431 on: May 14, 2020, 10:30:17 PM »
Peak Fowler and Jari would have been too much filth
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« Reply #432 on: May 14, 2020, 10:49:05 PM »
The biggest mistake was not signing Anelka.


Will never make sense that,was fuming at the time & it still pisses me off.
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« Reply #433 on: May 20, 2020, 09:40:44 AM »

Will never make sense that,was fuming at the time & it still pisses me off.
Same.

I guess Phil Thompson and Houllier are not very forgiving people and doesn’t do people management very well.

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« Reply #434 on: May 20, 2020, 09:43:27 AM »
Geds people management is pretty highly rated is it not? He just has a tactical style that didn’t really get the best out of that sort of player.
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