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« Reply #47520 on: January 14, 2021, 09:25:28 pm »
6pm curfew on its way next

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« Reply #47521 on: January 14, 2021, 09:27:19 pm »
6pm curfew on its way next

The virus doesnít like the days and only comes out after 6pm. Itís a well known fact.

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« Reply #47522 on: January 14, 2021, 09:32:06 pm »
6pm curfew on its way next

Makes zero sense, in some situations, am thinking things like supermarkets longer opening hours are potentially better as it allows shoppers to spread their visits out over longer periods so less of them are in the store at any one time.

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« Reply #47523 on: January 14, 2021, 09:34:02 pm »
6pm curfew on its way next
According to who ? Iíll be amazed if that happens.

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« Reply #47524 on: January 14, 2021, 09:37:07 pm »
A curfew will just mean people will all shop during the day.    I go at 9pm as itís quiet

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« Reply #47526 on: January 14, 2021, 09:38:22 pm »
A curfew will just mean people will all shop during the day.    I go at 9pm as itís quiet

Exactly, closing all the pubs at 10.00 was the perfect example of why curfews donít work.

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« Reply #47527 on: January 14, 2021, 09:38:50 pm »
I would take the numbers from many developing country with a pinch of salt to be honest, healthcare is often patchy at best and they often donít have the means to carry out test and autopsies etc, they are also probably more prone to government interference and pressure in the numbers.

Think that's a bit of a generalised and assumptive view of Brazil to be fair. The healthcare is not on a par to the UK but to say that the government is twisting numbers, they don't have means to carry out tests, and that is why really the UK has better numbers does not add up for me. But let's even say it's true and they don't have covid tests to check if a person has it before they die, the USA who is ran by a complete lunatic and idiots running around everywhere is still fairing better that us Brits. Find it hard to see why and how we have got it so wrong.

It is a different climate in Brazil as well. They're in the middle of their summer and we're in the middle of our winter, so it's difficult to compare like for like.

Sorry mate but I was understanding that temperatures do not make a difference to the spread?

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« Reply #47528 on: January 14, 2021, 09:42:57 pm »
 
The 6pm curfew is in France.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55669172

France are not in lockdown either

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« Reply #47529 on: January 14, 2021, 09:47:05 pm »
Sorry mate but I was understanding that temperatures do not make a difference to the spread?

It is somewhat seasonal. Brazil were relatively unscathed when US/Europe were battered in Feb-April as it was their summer. Then when their winter kicked in Covid exploded there and somewhat tapered off in Europe, relatively speaking. Then as soon as the winter season started it exploded again.

However, the seasons do vary state to state.
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« Reply #47530 on: January 14, 2021, 09:47:26 pm »
According to who ? Iíll be amazed if that happens.

Itís certain, testing sites have been told already

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« Reply #47531 on: January 14, 2021, 09:50:02 pm »
Itís certain, testing sites have been told already
How do you know this?

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« Reply #47532 on: January 14, 2021, 09:51:00 pm »
Itís certain, testing sites have been told already
And yet weíre just about to trial 24/7 vaccinations.

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« Reply #47533 on: January 14, 2021, 09:53:12 pm »
Think that's a bit of a generalised and assumptive view of Brazil to be fair. The healthcare is not on a par to the UK but to say that the government is twisting numbers, they don't have means to carry out tests, and that is why really the UK has better numbers does not add up for me. But let's even say it's true and they don't have covid tests to check if a person has it before they die, the USA who is ran by a complete lunatic and idiots running around everywhere is still fairing better that us Brits. Find it hard to see why and how we have got it so wrong.

Sorry mate but I was understanding that temperatures do not make a difference to the spread?

I wasnt talking about Brazil specifically to be honest, nor am I trying to paint the UK governments handling in any kind of positive way, more then anything I am using my knowledge and experiences of India (where my parents are from) to draw some generalisations. India has 150k dead officially, so thatís twice what we have but with about 20 times the population. They had one lockdown at the beginning of the pandemic, lasted 6-8 weeks, no subsequent lockdowns, mask wearing and social distancing is sporadic at best (my nephew got married a couple of weeks ago, 500 guests and about 5 of them in a mask), and at the beginning of the pandemic my home state had something like 50 ventilators for a population of 30 million people and thatís one of the smaller wealthier states, thereís also been a few media investigations that have found medical staff under pressure not to put Covid on the death certificates. Now going by all of that, despite all the cock ups by our government, somethings not right there. Either the Indian approach has just proven what all the nut jobs over here have been saying and the whole thing is just a hoax, or something is going on with the numbers or something else equally strange.

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« Reply #47534 on: January 14, 2021, 09:57:27 pm »
Itís certain, testing sites have been told already


Source please otherwise it's unsubstantiated nonsense.


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« Reply #47535 on: January 14, 2021, 10:00:43 pm »
Brazil will of course have a lot more deaths as they have a population of 200m plus. Yet per 1m population UK is far far ahead, (UK 1,245 Per m / Brazil 966 per m)

Could it be down to the people in the UK, the anti-maskers, the 'your not telling me what to do' brigade, covid deniers, conspiracy nuts, selfish fucks, 'I'm alright jacks', self-righteous, is there so many more people in the UK with really shit attitudes like this? Maybe it isn't that at all and is a lot more nuanced but if we think our government is better than Brazils or Americas then I don't really know what else it can be.

UK government is useless too.  I see Steve Baker is out today writing to Tory MPs about relaxing measures or in his words Ďrestoring our freedomí.  Populist far right regimes eh.

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« Reply #47536 on: January 14, 2021, 10:04:26 pm »
It is somewhat seasonal. Brazil were relatively unscathed when US/Europe were battered in Feb-April as it was their summer. Then when their winter kicked in Covid exploded there and somewhat tapered off in Europe, relatively speaking. Then as soon as the winter season started it exploded again.

However, the seasons do vary state to state.
I think the impact of summer on human behaviour affects the d spread of the virus more than it directly impacts the virus itself.
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« Reply #47537 on: January 14, 2021, 10:05:05 pm »
If not be surprised to see things tightened but a 6pm curfew makes zero sense.

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« Reply #47538 on: January 14, 2021, 10:06:18 pm »
UK government is useless too.  I see Steve Baker is out today writing to Tory MPs about relaxing measures or in his words Ďrestoring our freedomí.  Populist far right regimes eh.

I saw that earlier too, but the article was referencing the S*n so I didnít pay too much attention to it.

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« Reply #47539 on: January 14, 2021, 10:08:13 pm »
I'm sure BBC just said over 1200 deaths today.

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« Reply #47540 on: January 14, 2021, 10:09:23 pm »
2.9 million doses, 300,000 today according to the BBC

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« Reply #47541 on: January 14, 2021, 10:16:21 pm »
Whatís the point of a curfew if they want to vaccinate 24/7?

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« Reply #47542 on: January 14, 2021, 10:17:15 pm »
I saw that earlier too, but the article was referencing the S*n so I didnít pay too much attention to it.

Reported in a few newspapers and reported on sky & bbc news earlier.

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« Reply #47543 on: January 14, 2021, 10:36:23 pm »
I'm sure BBC just said over 1200 deaths today.

1,248 deaths and 48,262 new cases.

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« Reply #47544 on: January 14, 2021, 10:38:31 pm »
Curfew makes no sense, it would just condense people into shops during a much smaller window which is no good for anyone.

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« Reply #47546 on: January 14, 2021, 10:50:52 pm »
I wasnt talking about Brazil specifically to be honest, nor am I trying to paint the UK governments handling in any kind of positive way, more then anything I am using my knowledge and experiences of India (where my parents are from) to draw some generalisations. India has 150k dead officially, so thatís twice what we have but with about 20 times the population. They had one lockdown at the beginning of the pandemic, lasted 6-8 weeks, no subsequent lockdowns, mask wearing and social distancing is sporadic at best (my nephew got married a couple of weeks ago, 500 guests and about 5 of them in a mask), and at the beginning of the pandemic my home state had something like 50 ventilators for a population of 30 million people and thatís one of the smaller wealthier states, thereís also been a few media investigations that have found medical staff under pressure not to put Covid on the death certificates. Now going by all of that, despite all the cock ups by our government, somethings not right there. Either the Indian approach has just proven what all the nut jobs over here have been saying and the whole thing is just a hoax, or something is going on with the numbers or something else equally strange.

It looks like something strange is going on. It's an important case study that needs careful consideration before just saying it's a cover up. Lots of poor and rural population won't have same access to health care but cities are bursting at the seams and public hospitals are often full usually anyway. Be interested if anyone has come across good articles examining th e pandemic situation there
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« Reply #47547 on: January 14, 2021, 10:55:52 pm »
Curfew makes no sense, it would just condense people into shops during a much smaller window which is no good for anyone.

To be honest best ignored at the moment, new member, low post count, posting something that hasn't been verified by reliable sources, i'm wary of the i've been told verbally by someone shit. 

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« Reply #47548 on: January 14, 2021, 11:01:05 pm »
Daily hospital admissions for England seem to have plateaued for the most recent dates with data available - around 3,500 for Jan 4th and 3,500 for the most recent data on Jan 10th. That's encouraging as it's here that we'll see the first real sign of any improvement for those working so hard in the health care system. Hopefully we see this continue and drop sharply.

The total in hospital in UK is continuing to rise to the most recent date of data, Jan 12th. We can't really expect this to peak and begin to fall until we see it first in the daily admissions numbers above. If we are now seeing that (at least for England), then it may begin to drop by the end of the week. Not fast enough for those working in the hospitals of course, but the first signs in the numbers that things might be about to improve.

This hasnít panned out then. We now have 2 extra days of admissions data for England and itís back up to above 4,000.

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« Reply #47549 on: January 14, 2021, 11:02:39 pm »
To be honest best ignored at the moment, new member, low post count, posting something that hasn't been verified by reliable sources, i'm wary of the i've been told verbally by someone shit.

Heís been registered nearly 16 years  ;D

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« Reply #47550 on: January 14, 2021, 11:09:24 pm »
Heís been registered nearly 16 years  ;D

Fuckin hell didn't see that. :-[ ;D

But yep i'm suspicious of members, posting i've heard this or i've heard that ecc, without confirming it from a reliable source, it's bad enough on the transfer threads, but when something more serious like this i take it with a pinch of salt. unless it's confirmed by a reliable source

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« Reply #47551 on: January 14, 2021, 11:24:01 pm »
This hasnít panned out then. We now have 2 extra days of admissions data for England and itís back up to above 4,000.

At best short term trend this week shows new case numbers levelling.  May be couple of weeks to see deaths drop.  Think there were a few consecutive days last week where new cases were 60k+.

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« Reply #47552 on: January 14, 2021, 11:36:23 pm »
How do you know this?

A mate works at one, thatís what they were informed of today.

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« Reply #47553 on: January 15, 2021, 12:16:17 am »
Can somebody help me - what is the company who was given the responsibility for track and trace?

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« Reply #47554 on: January 15, 2021, 12:25:37 am »
Can somebody help me - what is the company who was given the responsibility for track and trace?

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« Reply #47555 on: January 15, 2021, 12:44:24 am »
Woolworths.


I'm being serious mate, I'm wanting to bring all the facts of what this government have done and bring them to account.

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« Reply #47556 on: January 15, 2021, 12:45:15 am »
Can anyone who has information on where our tax payers money has been spent for COVID by this government please message me....i'm going to set up a website explaining this.

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« Reply #47557 on: January 15, 2021, 12:45:53 am »

I'm being serious mate, I'm wanting to bring all the facts of what this government have done and bring them to account.


Pretty sure its Serco

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« Reply #47558 on: January 15, 2021, 12:55:22 am »
Can anyone who has information on where our tax payers money has been spent for COVID by this government please message me....i'm going to set up a website explaining this.

Iíd probably find better sources than RAWK for the info mate if youíre going to publish it  ;D

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« Reply #47559 on: January 15, 2021, 01:02:41 am »
Documents published by the Treasury show that the UK government has so far spent £10bn (Ä11.2bn; $12.7bn) on its much derided covid-19 test and trace programme. Private companies such as Serco, Sitel, and Capita are among those awarded contracts to run the programme.

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