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« Reply #47440 on: January 14, 2021, 10:04:00 am »
Its because they aren't in control of it, other people are handling the logistics of the rollout

I detest the government as much as the next man but that does seem a little disingenuous. It is the government that have instructed other people including the army.
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« Reply #47441 on: January 14, 2021, 10:10:04 am »
I detest the government as much as the next man but that does seem a little disingenuous. It is the government that have instructed other people including the army.

From reading their website, AstraZeneca started creating the logistical network to move the vaccines last summer, the NHS delivers the flu jab every year, so they will just be following tried and tested routes, the Army staff are used to moving everything required to go to war. The Tories might have said do it, but a monkey could have done that. I'm not giving these fuckwits one ounce of credit in this.

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« Reply #47444 on: January 14, 2021, 11:20:39 am »
My mother in law, a nurse, has had it twice. She has it at the moment and is feeling pretty rough. She is in her early 60's and not a million miles off retirement. I think these past 12 months have caused her to reassess her retirement date. The poor woman's entire existence centres around her two grandchildren and she has seen them only a few times in the last year - certainly not over christmas and she understands our concerns given where she works so hasn't seen them face to face in many months.

To all those that have posted about loved ones being diagnosed I wish all well and sincerely hope all recover.

I wish her well - bet she (and you) couldn't believe it when contracting it a second time.

Having had it recently, the main reason I ask if selfish as mentally, you can "relax" (not my standards but my stress) of catching it a second time for a short while.

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« Reply #47445 on: January 14, 2021, 12:35:16 pm »
I wish her well - bet she (and you) couldn't believe it when contracting it a second time.

Having had it recently, the main reason I ask if selfish as mentally, you can "relax" (not my standards but my stress) of catching it a second time for a short while.
How far between each bout? Not heard of many having it twice.

I only saw the end of the interview so missed that bit.

Reports this morning saying most people have immunity for 5 months after catching it, an 83% lower risk of catching it than someone who hasn't had it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55651518

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« Reply #47446 on: January 14, 2021, 12:55:55 pm »
4.46m waiting to start hospital treatment as at the end of November, which is the highest since records began.  Obviously Covid is unprecedented and sky have docs on reporting a lack of equipment.  10 years of Tory ‘austerity’ impacting NHS budgets won’t have helped.

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« Reply #47447 on: January 14, 2021, 12:59:45 pm »
4.46m waiting to start hospital treatment as at the end of November, which is the highest since records began.  Obviously Covid is unprecedented and sky have docs on reporting a lack of equipment.  10 years of Tory ‘austerity’ impacting NHS budgets won’t have helped.
Yet according to my dickhead work colleagues it's all a bit daft and the government have their stats all wrong

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« Reply #47448 on: January 14, 2021, 01:10:00 pm »
I wish her well - bet she (and you) couldn't believe it when contracting it a second time.

Having had it recently, the main reason I ask if selfish as mentally, you can "relax" (not my standards but my stress) of catching it a second time for a short while.

I see Rob (above) has posted what I was about to about immunity up to 83% for a minimum of 5 months

We are a little taken aback that she has seemingly caught it again. Of course her exposure is so much higher by the nature of her work. She tells me that on the non covid wards - which she has primarily remained on - the only protection is the standard mask and gloves. Those working on the covid wards are fully suited and booted for it.

What is entirely clear to me is that frontline staff need vaccination asap. Without them there is no treatment and frankly the rest of it makes no difference if they are not able to work.
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« Reply #47449 on: January 14, 2021, 01:56:37 pm »
A customer of mine is an ITU nurse.  She said she’s had it twice

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« Reply #47450 on: January 14, 2021, 02:41:03 pm »
According to Matt Hancock, 3m vaccines administered as of today. That is an approx 370,000 increase from yesterday's figures. Brilliant if true.

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« Reply #47451 on: January 14, 2021, 02:58:09 pm »
According to Matt Hancock, 3m vaccines administered as of today. That is an approx 370,000 increase from yesterday's figures. Brilliant if true.

This includes second doses, but it's still reasonably impressive

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« Reply #47452 on: January 14, 2021, 02:58:47 pm »
According to Matt Hancock, 3m vaccines administered as of today. That is an approx 370,000 increase from yesterday's figures. Brilliant if true.

Incredible figures wonder how scalable this is, we probably won't know for at least another two weeks

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« Reply #47453 on: January 14, 2021, 03:16:26 pm »
This includes second doses, but it's still reasonably impressive

I inferred that he was referring to today's figures not yet released, but i may be wrong.

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« Reply #47454 on: January 14, 2021, 03:43:06 pm »
My local vaccine centre suddenly closed as the vaccines expired, there’s a sign outside the door hmmm

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« Reply #47455 on: January 14, 2021, 03:45:19 pm »
I only saw the end of the interview so missed that bit.

Reports this morning saying most people have immunity for 5 months after catching it, an 83% lower risk of catching it than someone who hasn't had it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55651518
Sounds like a great study. More details here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/past-covid-19-infection-provides-some-immunity-but-people-may-still-carry-and-transmit-virus

It’s a shame they didn’t release the actual paper with the press release but it’s expected tonight apparently.

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« Reply #47456 on: January 14, 2021, 04:12:19 pm »
Finally..

BBC News - South America travel ban over Brazil variant fears
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55666198
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« Reply #47457 on: January 14, 2021, 04:35:58 pm »
yep idiots like your work colleague don't help, where the government could help though would be to offer full pay for anyone off-sick with CoVid

100% agree that this should be the case. Easiest way would be to simply get employers to pay full salaries and submit a claim for repayment on their next payroll run so it isn't causing people who are off work to have to wait.

I get the feeling that the govt is relying on company's to have a funded sickness scheme where they pay for x many days of being ill in a year.

In this particular instance though, we are all set up to WFH (its accounts and audit - a laptop, internet connection and you are sorted) and the company is covering pay of those off sick with the Rona so he has no excuse other than simply being dim. Certainly don't think there was any malice or owt.

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« Reply #47458 on: January 14, 2021, 04:40:29 pm »
I have just been reading the last few pages of the thread. I hope everyone with loved ones with positive tests for Covid make a full a speedy recovery.

Is there talk/plans of the vaccination program being rolled out more to places like GP's/ pharmacies etc or is it just confined to community health hubs? I hear some are being done in GP's others other places like health centres. Would make it easier I guess the more places open to you to get vaccinated

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« Reply #47459 on: January 14, 2021, 04:50:44 pm »
Reports of some vaccine centres having to throw out some today on Twitter.

Surely they should keep a reserve list of medical/healthcare staff and maybe some local elderly or extremely vulnerable people who could come over in a few hours notice to get their second shot?
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« Reply #47460 on: January 14, 2021, 04:58:25 pm »
I have just been reading the last few pages of the thread. I hope everyone with loved ones with positive tests for Covid make a full a speedy recovery.

Is there talk/plans of the vaccination program being rolled out more to places like GP's/ pharmacies etc or is it just confined to community health hubs? I hear some are being done in GP's others other places like health centres. Would make it easier I guess the more places open to you to get vaccinated

My local ASDA has a pharmacy and ASDA have emailed to say they’ll be part of the rollout over the next few months.
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« Reply #47461 on: January 14, 2021, 05:00:44 pm »
Finally..

BBC News - South America travel ban over Brazil variant fears
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55666198
What I don't get is that British nationals are exempt from this and can still fly to the UK but must self-isolate for 10 days.  They should be taken to an isolation centre and made to isolate like they did with the ones who came back from China at the start of the pandemic.  It only takes one idiot not to adhere to the self-isolation rule and it gets into the Community
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« Reply #47462 on: January 14, 2021, 05:02:49 pm »
My local ASDA has a pharmacy and ASDA have emailed to say they’ll be part of the rollout over the next few months.

I know they do things like flu jabs at places like supermarkets so good news in that case. 

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« Reply #47463 on: January 14, 2021, 05:06:30 pm »
Reports of some vaccine centres having to throw out some today on Twitter.

Surely they should keep a reserve list of medical/healthcare staff and maybe some local elderly or extremely vulnerable people who could come over in a few hours notice to get their second shot?

As a last resort just grab a random passerby and inject them. None of this should ever go to waste.

I have just been reading the last few pages of the thread. I hope everyone with loved ones with positive tests for Covid make a full a speedy recovery.

Is there talk/plans of the vaccination program being rolled out more to places like GP's/ pharmacies etc or is it just confined to community health hubs? I hear some are being done in GP's others other places like health centres. Would make it easier I guess the more places open to you to get vaccinated

GPs are already doing it, as are care homes for patients. Boots and Superdrug have started doing vaccinations today and Asda all all going to be doing this soon. The annual flu jab is available at any high street chemist, you register first, I think this is so that when you get your jab, your NHS record can be updated, so eventually the AZ jab should be available like the flu jab.

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« Reply #47464 on: January 14, 2021, 05:10:32 pm »
Fucking hundreds of idiots having a mass snowball fight in a park Leeds :no

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« Reply #47465 on: January 14, 2021, 05:12:38 pm »
Today's numbers are delayed due to an issue processing deaths data

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« Reply #47466 on: January 14, 2021, 05:20:27 pm »
Fucking hundreds of idiots having a mass snowball fight in a park Leeds :no

https://twitter.com/i/status/1349724505233620992

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« Reply #47467 on: January 14, 2021, 05:21:04 pm »
How do you get contacted for the vaccine?

Do they call you through whatever phone you have listed at your surgery? And does the number come up as “NHS” or something on your phone screen, or would it be your local surgery’s number?

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« Reply #47468 on: January 14, 2021, 05:28:35 pm »
How do you deal with a fruitcake of an ex that insists your 15 year old son won't be getting vaccinated? She'll be registered as the contact with the GP, so any notification will go to her and she'll just either not tell me at all, or tell me she's got it but isn't allowing him to get the vaccine.

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« Reply #47469 on: January 14, 2021, 05:29:48 pm »
How do you get contacted for the vaccine?

Do they call you through whatever phone you have listed at your surgery? And does the number come up as “NHS” or something on your phone screen, or would it be your local surgery’s number?

I can help with part 1 of your question. They ring the contact details they have with your GP.  As I think they text you where you need to go to get vaccinated with address details.

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« Reply #47470 on: January 14, 2021, 05:29:52 pm »
How do you get contacted for the vaccine?

Do they call you through whatever phone you have listed at your surgery? And does the number come up as “NHS” or something on your phone screen, or would it be your local surgery’s number?
My neighbor was notified by letter but then she's mid 80s and prefers everything in writing.

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« Reply #47471 on: January 14, 2021, 05:33:26 pm »
How do you deal with a fruitcake of an ex that insists your 15 year old son won't be getting vaccinated? She'll be registered as the contact with the GP, so any notification will go to her and she'll just either not tell me at all, or tell me she's got it but isn't allowing him to get the vaccine.
The Pfizer EUA is for 16+ anyway so he wont be invited to have that as yet. Not sure about AZ. Once 16 would it not be his choice so you may be able to influence him to reject the conspiracy nuts.

I think a lot of the floating voters regarding the vaccines will be swayed by things like not being able to travel without proof of it etc as time moves on anyway and it will be left with the hard cord nutjobs shouting at clouds.

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« Reply #47472 on: January 14, 2021, 05:35:18 pm »
My neighbor was notified by letter but then she's mid 80s and prefers everything in writing.

smart lady. Always have everything in writing I think you are also correct as I was talking to one of my mums elderly friends and she said that she had got a letter inviting her to get an appointment for the jab and then rang them to set up a date and time. So I guess it does depend on how proactive your GP is I guess.

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« Reply #47473 on: January 14, 2021, 05:38:28 pm »
The Pfizer EUA is for 16+ anyway so he wont be invited to have that as yet. Not sure about AZ. Once 16 would it not be his choice so you may be able to influence him to reject the conspiracy nuts.

I think a lot of the floating voters regarding the vaccines will be swayed by things like not being able to travel without proof of it etc as time moves on anyway and it will be left with the hard cord nutjobs shouting at clouds.

Good point. And £50 is VERY persuasive.
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« Reply #47474 on: January 14, 2021, 05:38:56 pm »
How do you deal with a fruitcake of an ex that insists your 15 year old son won't be getting vaccinated? She'll be registered as the contact with the GP, so any notification will go to her and she'll just either not tell me at all, or tell me she's got it but isn't allowing him to get the vaccine.
Sorry, this isn’t going to help much but I’ve reached my limit of patience with these morons. I don’t have social media so normally I don’t come into contact with such people, but obviously Covid is big enough that we talk about it on WhatsApp etc.

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I cannot fathom the ignorance. I’ve stopped engaging with it as it will do no good and I will only wind myself up at an already anxious time. Infuriating.

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« Reply #47475 on: January 14, 2021, 05:46:38 pm »
48,682 cases reported, deaths will be delayed

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« Reply #47476 on: January 14, 2021, 05:48:25 pm »
48,682 cases reported, deaths will be delayed
About 4000 down on last Thursday I think.

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« Reply #47477 on: January 14, 2021, 05:49:51 pm »
According to Matt Hancock, 3m vaccines administered as of today. That is an approx 370,000 increase from yesterday's figures. Brilliant if true.

The gov website hasn’t been updated with today’s figures, so hopefully he’s right. If we’re doing 370k then even if we can do that for 6 days a week that’s the government target of 2 million a week met with some margin.

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« Reply #47478 on: January 14, 2021, 05:50:27 pm »
Public Health England on their findings so far about how long immunity lasts for.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/past-covid-19-infection-provides-some-immunity-but-people-may-still-carry-and-transmit-virus

Brass tacks of it is, so far as is known up to now, the vast majority of us won't catch it again within at least 5 months of first having it. But. There's also some evidence to suggest that there are some who'll be able to continue to pass it around even while not being sick themselves and having had it themselves before.
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« Reply #47479 on: January 14, 2021, 05:51:35 pm »
Fucking hundreds of idiots having a mass snowball fight in a park Leeds :no

https://twitter.com/i/status/1349724505233620992

Imagine if it was Liverpool. It'd lead every news bulletin for days.
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