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Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« on: December 1, 2005, 12:43:15 pm »
Wigan Athletic have proven to be the other success story of the Premiership so far this season. The club are clearly enjoying their first season in the top division - they were only seconds away from victory over Chelsea in their opening game, and have barely looked back since. A string of famous victories has kept them near the top, although recent results against Arsenal and Spurs have seen them drop to third in the table. Their next games after Liverpool are Man U and Chelsea; a run of matches that will demonstrate the depth of resolve that Paul Jewell has instilled into his squad.

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The club were formed in 1932 following the demise of Wigan Borough FC. Wigan Athletic entered the football league proper in 1978, after years in the Northern Premier League. Their gradual ascent through the league was accelerated when Dave Whelan, owner of the JJB Sports shops, became Chairman of the club. They were Third Division Champions 1996-7, and in season 02/03 they were promoted from the Second Division, again as Champions, to old First Division, before securing their entry to the Premiership as runners up last year. 


According to our friend Andy at Liverweb, Liverpool and Wigan have only met on two previous occasions, in a two legged League cup tie back in September and October 1989. Liverpool were the victors on both of these occasions. The online historical database that is Wooltonian has also discovered a few more links with Wigan over the years - we've sent a few players their way, including greats like David Fairclough and Alan Kennedy, and Brian Kettle, who went to Wigan from us around 1980. Other players who played for both clubs include Mike Newell - Wigan made a few bob when selling him on to Luton.

For the Spyin' Kop, we have enlisted the help of George Chilvers, who runs the Ultimate Wigan website - the longest standing Latics site on the web, and just about the only opposition team website that I have seen that begins with a welcome message for away fans. It's also where I found most of the information on our visitors. George has been ably supported by Bernard Ramsdale a Latics fan for over thirty years, and who runs the Ye Olde Tree & Crown Latics website, which rose from a previous Latics fanzine. Since Bernard and others opened the site in 2001, Wigan have won the Second Division Championship with 100 points, and spent two seasons in the Championship, finally achieving the dream last season. He considers the site a lucky omen, especially with the start that they have had to life amongst the 'big boys'!
 
How has the season been shaping up for Wigan? You must be having a ball so far!

GC: Obviously where we are is way beyond our wildest expectations.  To have 25  points at this point in the season is pretty good - and we are playing well.

BR: To tell you the truth, our success is like a dream.  I am sure that one day soon I will wake up and find myself back inside South Liverpool's ground as opposed to Anfield!

What are your expectations for this season? Have they changed from day one?

GC: No, our expectations have not changed one iota - we expect to stay up. We,  unlike most so-called experts, always thought we would, but that doesn't mean it doesn't remain our number one priority, no matter where we currently stand.  It may not seem ambitious but we have to be pragmatic - give us guaranteed 17th place now and we'll take it.  But to get to guaranteed survival we need all the points we can get now.  And the next three up for grabs are at Anfield on Saturday.  With another six at The Bridge and OT in our following two games. 

Easy peasy!!

BR: My expectations are pretty straight forward and they are to just be in this league next season.  To that end, I hope you beat Sunderland tonight (Wednesday) leaving more daylight between us and one of our rivals for the drop. That said, we do have a nice cushion and go into our next three tough games (yourselves then Chelsea and Manchester United all away from home) with confidence sky high.  The way the team is playing gives me cause to think that a Uefa Cup spot is not beyond the realms of possibility.

Who do you think is your most important player(s)?

GC: A difficult one, because we have a team rather than big name superstars. The one player though who has caught everyone's imagination, and has played a great part in welding the team is Pascal Chimbonda.  Came to us unknown from Bastia, who were relegated last season, he has been an inspiration - solid in defense, attacking runs up the wing, two goals already (never ever scored before we believe) - gloves in September, and allegedly tights and a balaclava in training.  A real character!!

BR: Wigan Athletic do not have 'stars' or players who are more important than their team mates. The success of Latics is their team work and the inspirational management of Paul Jewell and his assistant Chris Hutchings. That said, I am sure the Kop will enjoy the high jinks of our right back, Pascal Chimbonda.  He is a footballer who loves the game and all the football fans in England.

Your worst player(s)?

GC: A bit trite I know but there's no-one that fans are consistently calling to get rid.  Players have an off-day, but no-one consistently so.  We have a small squad, and everyone is there on merit.

BR: I never insult any player who puts on the Wigan Athletic shirt and tries their best. Our form suggests all our players are working hard for the team.

Any young up and coming players in the squad that we might not know about?

GC: You probably already know of Leighton Baines at left-back. England Under-21, but Sven doesn't really seem to have noticed him.  Solid with actually rather a good shot.

BR: Pascal Chimbonda, who I mentioned earlier is beginning to get quite a name for himself with Bayern Munich sniffing around him. I believe Liverpool are already having a good look at Jimmy Bullard and two of our younger players are already established at England Under 21's level.  Incidentally, both come from Liverpool and their names are Leighton Baines and Ryan Taylor.

What sort of line-up will Mr Jewell put out against us?

GC: Probably Mike Pollitt in goal over John Filan - Filan's miss against Arsenal cost us and Pollitt played well enough early in the season  and against Spurs on Saturday to keep his place.  Wingbacks Pascal Chimbonda and Leighton Baines, with centre backs Stephane Henchoz, who needs no introduction, and Ari De Zeeuw.

Across midfield we'll have Jimmy Bullard, who will run and run, Graham Kavanagh, an old warhorse, Damien Francis and Lee McCulloch, with Jason Roberts and Henri Camara up front.

During the game likely to bring on Ryan Taylor (ex-Tranmere) and/or Alan Mahon in midfield, with David Connolly available to change shape/style up front, or as on Saturday to change to 4-3-3.

BR: The Jeweller, believe it or not, is putting out a reserve team against Newcastle United in the Carling Cup tonight (Wednesday).  I think that answers your question! The team you will see at Anfield will be our best and despite the footballing reputation of Liverpool we will play 4-4-2 and attack from the first second until the last!

Do you have a favourite/best chant(s) and perhaps any that require an explanation?

GC: Current favourites are "Who needs Mourinho?  We've got Paul Jewellio" and "Doo-doo-doo Pascal Chimbonda". If we're doing OK you may hear "Little Wigan, we're taking the p***" - we're proud of being "Little" Wigan. And for obscurity?  "We come from Wigan and we live in Mudhuts!  Ooh! Aaah! Ooh ooh aah!  Ooh to be a Wiganah!"

BR: To tell you the truth the chants you hear from Wigan Athletic supporters when travelling away from home depend on any given situation that arises. Chants are made up almost spontaneously!


Where do you expect - Wigan and Liverpool to finish in the Premier League?

GC: Liverpool probably around (or I'm afraid just outside) top 6 - Wigan about mid-table.

BR: I think the Premiership title is all sewn up.  With regards to ourselves I think a top ten finish is more than likely. As for Liverpool, I think you may snatch that fourth  place behind Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal (in that order!)

Which Liverpool player will you fear the most?

GC: We had Henry at the JJB last week, and Davids last Saturday.  We fear no individual - as Paul Jewell says "we don't disrespect anyone, but we're not here to swap shirts and get autographs". Just have a nasty feeling though that Peter Crouch will get his name on the scoresheet :-(

BR: Eerrr. PETER CROUCH?  Hopefully, he'll get a shedful tonight (Wednesday) otherwise you can GUARANTEE he'll break his duck against us!

And your feelings on the new 'Spanish flavour' Liverpool. Senor 'Rafa' Benitez and our new latin recruits?

GC: We of course famously brought 3 Spaniards to the old Third Division, when such things weren't done, so we know all about Spanish imports. One was Jesus Seba, and there was a flag that said "Jesus is a Wiganer". Rafa's doing OK, and your new Latin recruits fit in well.

BR: Ask any long time football fan what they remember most about Liverpool and it is that 'boot room'! In my humble opinion nothing at Anfield has gone right since the days of Graeme Souness and the beginning of the end of that era. However, Rafa Benitez has the blend just right when it comes to Europe.  I suppose the English way of playing is hard for the continentals to adjust to. That said, Jose Reina looks a very good acquistion and ten million pound man Xabi Alonso is obviously a very gifted player.  I haven't seen Antonio Barragan as yet while Josemi is another player I haven't seen enough of to really pass comment on. Morientes seems to be getting the feel of the English style of playing though.

Care to predict the score? 

GC: I never bet against us - 2-1 to Latics - Camara and McCulloch with Crouch getting yours (probably early on).

BR: 1-2 to Wigan Athletic?

Have you been to Anfield before? What are your impressions/expectations?

GC: Hmmm - how do I answer this?? You see I was born and raised in Liverpool as a Red. I had a Kop season ticket in my youth.  I went to Wembley in 74, Rome in 77.  But then I moved out here (before Latics were even in the League), and what with one thing and another (mainly my little lad (he's now 26) wanting to go to matches and not being able to take him to Anfield), I ended up following Latics fanatically. They always say converts are the worst!!  Some people can't believe you can ever do that, but I'm just supporting my local team.  And I started when we were at the bottom. Sort of reverse bandwagon jumping!!

Obviously it's no longer the same (I have been to Anfield a couple of times in recent years), but if anyone had told me all those years ago I'd be sat (yes, sat!) in the Anfield Road End, wearing blue and white and hurling abuse at Liverpool, I'd have asked them what they were smoking <big lol>

BR: I have fantastic memories of Anfield.  In September 1989 we were drawn against Liverpool in the League Cup second round. I am talking here about being drawn  against a truly GREAT Liverppol team as well.  In fact I am almost sure that in the game before Liverpool had crushed Crystal Palace 9-0 in a League game! We feared the worst! Little Wigan from Division Three were going to get slaughtered. When we went 2-1 up in the 55th minute the feeling amongst the Wigan contingent was unbelievable. Truthfully we all thought that this, leading Liverpool at Anfield, was the highest level of achievement we'd ever see! Then the legend that is Ian Rush bagged a couple of goals within minutes. However, after that John Barnes had a penalty saved by our keeper Nigel Adkins. Peter Beardsley and John Barnes completed a 5-2 victory over Latics who had played brilliantly all through the game.

The thing that I'll never forget and appreciate even to this day was the Kop when the game had ended. Our players trudged over to the Liverpool fans and received the best standing ovation a Latics team has ever witnessed from rival fans. Not only that, but when both teams had gone down the tunnel the Kop stayed behind for a few minutes and applauded us, the travelling support as well. So, yes, I have very fond memories of Anfield. When I walk past the famous gates again on Saturday my expectations will be of a victory and a great sense of achievement. Wigan Athletic now play in the same League as Liverpool.


I think a lot of Liverpool fans have been impressed by Wigan this season. Paul Jewell is one of ours, what do you think of his future prospects at Wigan, or beyond?

GC: Paul is, as every paper seems to think is an original pun, is a gem. But his strength is in moulding a team from a collection of players who individually are fine, into something that is better than the sum of the parts.  Alf Ramsey did the same - he didn't pick necessarily the best players overall, but the best for the jobs they had to do (hence no Greaves in the 66 WCF).

PJ did the job at Bradford, and he's done it for us.  Long may he continue. I'm not sure he would be as successful with prima-donna footballers. He believes in honest graft.

BR: The man is a Wigan Athletic legend.  He was obviously brought up with the aforementioned 'boot room' mentality. He is very ambitious and he is satisfied with nothing.  In his eyes there is always room for improvement. I think his strengths are man management and motivation. I honestly think he is very happy with his lot in Wigan.  However, given his ambition I can see him moving on to a bigger club. I shudder to think what would happen if he was offered the Liverpool job!

England?  Don't bet against it!


Finally, you have another ex-Red, Stephane Henchoz, at Wigan. He was much appreciated at Anfield, especially for his goalkeeping in the 2001 FA Cup final against Arsenal. How has he done for Wigan so far this season?

GC: Stephane Henchoz has been a great acquisition for us - just what we needed - solid and experienced. Alongside another experienced centre-back, Ari De Zeeuw, they have formed a backbone that has enabled us to push forward to get the results we have.

BR: Stephane is a rock in the centre of our defence.  He has a fantastic understanding with Arjan De Zeeuw. Whilst both these players are not exactly blessed with pace, fortunately our two other defenders Leighton Baines and Chimbonda (the Kop are going to admire him) are regularly fed rocket fuel!

Thanks to both respondents for thier time and for their excellent answers. For Wigan their first trip to Anfield indicates the distance that the club have travelled over the past decade. A result here would give them some hope as they face their most difficult run in fixtures in the Premiership.

For Liverpool, the game is an opportunity for Rafa and the team to demonstrate the consistency of results that we have all been craving. It promises to be a great game, with a couple of nice reunions, and the prospect of some vocal support from our near neighbours.

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #1 on: December 1, 2005, 12:54:25 pm »
Good read - finish outside the top 6 though? Nah ;)
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« Reply #2 on: December 1, 2005, 12:55:28 pm »
Good stuff. This will be a tough game, no mistake, people shouldn't turn up expecting us to turn them over by a few goals. We'll need to defend well from set pieces in particular.

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« Reply #3 on: December 1, 2005, 12:55:59 pm »
Good read - finish outside the top 6 though? Nah ;)

Thats what I thought! How can you convert from being a red to a pie eater, thats wrong!

Good answers though, good on Wigan. Hope they continue their good run after Saturday.

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« Reply #4 on: December 1, 2005, 02:01:49 pm »
I like the fact that other fans still think we won't perform in the league!
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« Reply #5 on: December 1, 2005, 02:15:42 pm »
I think that my prediction of you finishing in fourth place is a fair one.  It is not meant to put your team down in any way.

Then again, I suppose your expectations are a lot higher than ours.

I'll tell you something else as well, I would take defeat on Saturday if a win over Man United could be guaranteed for us in return!
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« Reply #6 on: December 1, 2005, 02:16:51 pm »
I'll tell you something else as well, I would take defeat on Saturday if a win over Man United could be guaranteed for us in return!

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« Reply #7 on: December 1, 2005, 02:20:49 pm »
I'm not being funny or anything, but how come 'We all live in a Red and White Kop' is under my profile?

In my defence I will state now that this IS NOT the case.  I'm Wigan and I'm BLUE.
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« Reply #8 on: December 1, 2005, 02:25:16 pm »
Perhaps my favourite set of answers so far.

Cracking stuff.

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« Reply #9 on: December 1, 2005, 02:28:02 pm »
That's better!
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« Reply #11 on: December 1, 2005, 03:12:21 pm »
I think that my prediction of you finishing in fourth place is a fair one.  It is not meant to put your team down in any way.

Your suggestion of fourth place was reasonable, the outside the top 6 wasn't. :wave

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« Reply #12 on: December 1, 2005, 03:13:03 pm »
Good read, and they have every right not to fear anyone in the PL as they have faced the PL champions and done well. Being newcomers, they were always going to be the underdogs and with nothing to lose but everything to gain, their fighting mentality has been shaped by Paul Jewell.

They are going to be full of energy with practically their whole 1st team rested yesterday, and will give us our toughest test at home since Chelsea. This looks to be a fast paced game for the full 90 minutes and I'm really looking forward to it, especially as I'm taking my kids to Anfield for the first time. Winning this game will set us well for the run up to Xmas.

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« Reply #13 on: December 1, 2005, 03:47:44 pm »
One of the best "Spyin' Kops" I've read. The delight, pleasure and pride that these guys have in their teams' achievement shines through. And they're clearly not just here 'for the ride.' Good luck lads - after Saturday, obviously!  :wave
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« Reply #14 on: December 1, 2005, 04:29:16 pm »
Well in, good read.

Being a wiganer my self and season ticket holder at anfield for a good few years i'm bang up for this saturday, you would not believe the amount of people crawling out the woodwork in wigan now there in the premiership..... Fair play to them though.

This was the first fixture I looked for this year and "if" we win i'm gonna be dishin out some abuse saturday afternoon, and if we lose it doesn't bear thinkin about.

How that fella though said he used to support Liverpool and will be dishing out some abuse is a bit sad, I bet he weren't dishing out abuse last May when we won the cup ;)
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« Reply #15 on: December 1, 2005, 04:58:22 pm »
I don't understand that "Recent form" thingy.
How can that be right ?
They've lost there last 2 league matches agains Arsenal 2-3 and Spurs 1-2 didn't they ?

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« Reply #16 on: December 1, 2005, 05:16:38 pm »
I don't understand that "Recent form" thingy.
How can that be right ?
They've lost there last 2 league matches agains Arsenal 2-3 and Spurs 1-2 didn't they ?


Prior to those results...oops. I started this last week...

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« Reply #17 on: December 1, 2005, 05:28:37 pm »
Prior to those results...oops. I started this last week...
Ah, cheers !
I was just wondering.
Great piece again, Michael, very good read.
I've printed it out to show my mate from Wigan who lives over here in Den Haag, Holland.
He'll be in the pub now and I need an excuse to go too.
I could have just send him the URL but I don't want to get him on this forum pissed out off his brain !;)

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« Reply #18 on: December 1, 2005, 05:48:36 pm »
yeah....7th or 8th for us this season ::)

Not the most knowledge pair you have had on here but nice of them to take the time to share opinions

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« Reply #19 on: December 1, 2005, 05:52:32 pm »
Before you go, send him the link to YOTaC.  www.yeoldetreeandcrown.34sp.com

Tell him there will be a blinding match report on it within hours of the Latics doing the business at Anfield!
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« Reply #20 on: December 1, 2005, 05:57:28 pm »
Hattori

What the hell are you waffling on about?
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« Reply #21 on: December 1, 2005, 06:06:14 pm »
Excellent responses from the two Wigan lads. Love the 'reverse bandwaggon / gloryhunting' story. ;D
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« Reply #22 on: December 1, 2005, 06:37:13 pm »
Hattori

What the hell are you waffling on about?

I did warn you about a few restless natives. :wave

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« Reply #23 on: December 1, 2005, 09:33:35 pm »
Good read as always :wellin 3 points for the redmen please. 8)

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« Reply #24 on: December 1, 2005, 10:08:34 pm »
Cheers for that mate!

I dunno why but I really like Wigan! Maybe it was from last season's Championship highlights on itv, and how "little" Wigan were doing so well!

Then they go an play brilliantly against Chelsea, cruelly losing in the last seconds of the game.

I hope Wigan well for the season, just after Saturday  ;D.

Nice fans as well, judging from the interview (although I was slightly shocked by them thinking we'd come 4th after Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal  :o).

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« Reply #25 on: December 2, 2005, 02:13:26 am »
Some of the best answers I've read in Spyin Kop, which is consistently fantastic.   George and Bernard have represented their club well, as has Paul Jewell in that terrific interview on the official site.   Agree with bazc that their's something likeable about Wigan and hope they can keep up the form they've shown.   It's good to see a club without superstars performing so well.   My guess for tomorrow is we'll come away with a well-earned 3-1, but I can see them getting a point or two (or 3 or 4 even) at OT and the Bridge.   Wasn't there rumours that we were interested in Ryan Taylor when he was at Tranmere as cover for Finnan at right back?   

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #26 on: December 2, 2005, 07:21:55 am »
Always nice to read Spyin' Kop - great responses from George and Bernard although I do think we will finish higher than 6th if we continue the way we do! 

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #27 on: December 2, 2005, 08:28:11 am »
Good set of answers there......nice one.

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #28 on: December 2, 2005, 12:03:35 pm »
Funny to think, next season our only Local Derby could be Wigan ;D
Good set of answers, although I usually have no time for "Turncoats" but to turn from Liverpool to Wigan must have taken some balls.
I just hope he brought his kids up right and MADE them Red !

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #29 on: December 2, 2005, 12:09:09 pm »
Enjoyed reading this.

Thank you.

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #30 on: December 2, 2005, 02:26:11 pm »
Funny to think, next season our only Local Derby could be Wigan ;D
Good set of answers, although I usually have no time for "Turncoats" but to turn from Liverpool to Wigan must have taken some balls.
I just hope he brought his kids up right and MADE them Red !

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #31 on: December 2, 2005, 02:42:39 pm »
Being a wiganer my self and season ticket holder at anfield for a good few years i'm bang up for this saturday, you would not believe the amount of people crawling out the woodwork in wigan now there in the premiership..... Fair play to them though.

This was the first fixture I looked for this year and "if" we win i'm gonna be dishin out some abuse saturday afternoon, and if we lose it doesn't bear thinkin about.

How that fella though said he used to support Liverpool and will be dishing out some abuse is a bit sad, I bet he weren't dishing out abuse last May when we won the cup ;)
I'm a Wiganer too (but full scouse family) but Liverpool through and through..........come on redmen give them a good beating and I can take the piss in the Freemasons on Sat night.

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #32 on: December 2, 2005, 02:58:38 pm »
Superb Spyin' Kop that - great set of answers from the Wigan lads.
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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #33 on: December 2, 2005, 05:00:20 pm »
Story about Turncoat amused me.

Back to our previous meeting with Wigan, worked with a Latics fan who used to support the Reds [ started following Wigan when they come out the NPL]. Asked him who he`d be supporting and he replied "I go back a long way with Liverpool"
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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #34 on: December 2, 2005, 05:22:56 pm »
How lovely to have genuine, decent fans respond.  What fun!  Substance abuse shushpision on the chap who thought we would finish 6th.

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #35 on: December 3, 2005, 03:09:02 am »
Was an interesting read.

Have watched Wigan a few times in the past - and my mates been watching them for years and we talk regularly about their progress.  While De Zeeuw and Henchoz may not have pace - they certainly have the brains required to make life difficult for our forwards.  Plus the full backs can run all day - covering at the back and bombing forward as required. 

Jimmy Bullard is the danger man - industrious - good on the ball - and capable of making life difficult for the midfield.  Wasn't aware that Liverpool had taken an interest in him - but doesn't surprise me particularly because he is willing to work hard, has a good team ethic - all the things we hear regularly from Rafa.

And whilst we may be looking to exploit the lack of pace in the centre of the Wigan defence - they will be looking to do something similair I would imagine with Roberts and Camara against Carra and Sami.

Overall - a really tight game - probably dependent on how Wigan approach the game - if they sit back and counter attack - expect a long difficult afternoon.  However, they are just as capable of coming forward and attacking us - as they have against Arsenal and Newcastle (admittedly at home) recently - and if they do come at us - I feel we are capable of picking them apart.

Tough one - but I will go 2-0 to Liverpool - both goals coming late on after a couple of substitution from Rafa.

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #36 on: December 3, 2005, 08:08:51 am »
;D You're going to do this for every game until the end of the season, aren't you?

If you mean the cartoons, I'll probably continue while the predicted scores or result is going in our favour. last two spot on. not as positive today, we may well keep another clean sheet.

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #37 on: December 3, 2005, 08:47:08 am »
Two great sets of answers, I really enjoyed doing this Spyin' Kop. George & Bernard have been absolute gents. When I opened up Bernard's email and read his story about visiting Anfield back in 1989, it really made me proud to be a Red - responding to a visiting team and fans like that sets us apart from other clubs; we are the best supporters in the land - sometimes.

George's story about switching allegiance to Wigan is also interesting. You have to bear in mind that getting to Anfield and getting tickets twenty years ago, when he wanted to take his son to the game, was not as simple as it is today. Out of town fans (like me) have it so much easier these days with telephone hotlines, internet ticket sales, etc.

I've lived in Edinburgh for nearly 12 years; these days I can get to the game through a combination of factors, but the most significant one for me is (virtually) guaranteed tickets via the PTS. I have been able to take my daughter to Anfield this season for the first time - but if that option had not been open to me I could see how easy it would be to go to see Hearts or Hibs instead.

As Woolie said, it takes balls to make the switch to support another club - but I do wonder if a tiny Red corner of George's heart will be rooting for Liverpool this  lunchtime. ;)

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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #38 on: December 3, 2005, 09:15:56 am »
If you mean the cartoons, I'll probably continue while the predicted scores or result is going in our favour. last two spot on. not as positive today, we may well keep another clean sheet.

I'll let them score one if it means Crouch scores twice ;)
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Re: Spyin' Kop: Wigan Athletic At Home
« Reply #39 on: December 3, 2005, 09:07:59 pm »
Hi guys.

Just a final word to say "well done" today.  We are rather disappointed that we let you have too much space, and we paid for it.  Basically we tried to contain your game (which doesn't work) rather than what's given us success so far - playing our way.

Told you Crouchie would score (as I told Sky on camera outside the ground too) ;)

Michael was right too about how it came about that I "changed" to a Latic.  Twenty years ago you just couldn't get tickets for Anfield if you lived out of town, particularly for the odd game, so I took my lad along to my local team.

I never really deliberately swapped allegiance, like those who support Liverpool this year, Arsenal next year, Chelsea whenever etc.  Latics and Liverpool were two different worlds, and their paths were never supposed to cross.  It'd be like some of you watching Marine.  We were never really supposed to be in teh same league - but I'll tell you what, it's fun.

Over the years I watched all of Latics' games, and somehow discovered that I was now a Latic rather than a Red.  It didn't happen overniht - it just happened.

Like Paul Jewell, I do wish you well for the season - I do look for your result.  But it is, I'm afraid, "your" result now.

And in my defence to the accusations of substance abuse (does  Beer count?) I did say "around top 6" - which can include higher ;D

Good luck for the rest of the season - except when you come to the JJB.