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« Reply #58120 on: October 7, 2019, 02:26:59 am »
White evangelicals love Trump and aren't confused about why. No one should be.
By Anthea Butler

Focusing on the disconnect between Trump's actions and the moral aspects of evangelicals' faith misses the issue that keeps their support firm.

Liberals have a tendency to wring their hands at the strong support President Donald Trump — he of the three wives and multiple affairs, and a tendency to engage in exceedingly un-Christian-like behavior at the slightest provocation — continues to receive from the white evangelical community. White evangelical support for Donald Trump is still at 73 percent, and more than 80 percent of white evangelicals voted for him in 2016.

But focusing on the disconnect between Trump's personal actions and the moral aspects of their faith misses the issue that keeps their support firm: racism. Modern evangelicals' support for this president cannot be separated from the history of evangelicals' participation in and support for racist structures in America.

Evangelicals, in religious terminology, believe that Jesus Christ is the savior of humanity. They have a long history in America, and include a number of different groups, including Baptists, Pentecostals, Methodists and nondenominational churches. After the schism among the Baptists, Methodists and Presbyterians in the 1850s over slavery, conservative denominations like the Southern Baptists — who defended slavery through their readings of scripture — came into being. And because the primary schisms between northern and southern denominations was over the issues of slavery, in the pre- and post-Civil War years, African American Protestants formed their own denominations.

Evangelical denominations formed from these splits in the South were usually comprised of people who had made money from slavery or supported it. After the Civil War many were more likely to have supported the Ku Klux Klan and approved of (or participated in) lynching. The burning cross of the KKK, for instance, was a symbol of white Christian supremacy, designed both to put fear into the hearts of African Americans and to highlight the supposed Christian righteousness of the terrorist act.

During the civil rights movement, many white evangelicals either outright opposed Martin Luther King Jr. or, like Billy Graham, believed that racial harmony would only come about when the nation turned to God. in the 1970s, evangelicalism became synonymous with being "born again" and also against abortion and, with the rise of the Moral Majority in the late 1970s, they began to seek not only moral, but political power.

Ronald Reagan, who also counted evangelicals among his most vociferous supporters, started his presidential campaign on the platform of states’ rights from Philadelphia, Mississippi, where Michael Schwerner, James Chaney and Andrew Goodman were murdered by several Klansmen with the participation of local law enforcement in 1964, while attempting to register African Americans to vote. Decades later, the Rev. Jerry Falwell, the evangelical leader, opposed sanctions on South Africa's apartheid regime and insulted Bishop Desmond Tutu, a Nobel Prize Peace winner, as a "phony."

After 9/11, many evangelicals vilified Islam and created cottage industries and ministries promoting Islamophobia. And when Barack Obama was elected president, they regrouped, bought guns and became Tea Partiers who promoted fiscal responsibility and indulged in birtherism, promoted by no less than the son of Billy Graham, Franklin.

Still, evangelicals have worked to make a good show of repenting for racism. From the racial reconciliation meetings of the 1990s to today, they have dutifully declared racism a sin, and Southern Baptists have apologized again for their role in American slavery — most recently in 2018 via a document outlining their role.

But statements are not enough. Proving how disconnected they are from their statements about atoning for the sin of racism, the 2019 Annual Convention of the Southern Baptists was opened with a gavel owned by John A. Broadus, a slaveholder, white supremacist and the founder of their seminary. In the meantime, the most visible Southern Baptist pastor, Robert Jeffress of First Baptist Dallas, recently said of Trump that “he does not judge people by the color of their skin, but whether or not they support him,” calling that "the definition of colorblind." (Jeffress is such a supporter of Trump that he regularly extols him on Fox News, and even wrote a special song for Trump’s Campaign, "Make America Great Again.")

So it's not surprising that white evangelicals supported the Muslim ban, are the least likely to accept refugees into the country (according to the Pew Foundation) and, though a slim majority oppose it, are the denomination most likely to support Trump's child separation policy. White evangelicals certainly are not concerned with white supremacy, because they are often white supremacists.

And Trump appeals to these evangelicals because of his focus on declension, decline and destruction, which fits into evangelical beliefs about the end times. When Trump used the term “American carnage” in his inaugural address, evangelicals listened; they too, believed America is in decline. Their imagined powerlessness, and the need for a strong authoritarian leader to protect them, is at the root of their racial and social animus. Their persecution complex is a heady mix of their fear of “socialists,” Muslims, independent women, LGBT people and immigration. Their feelings of fragility, despite positions of power, make them vote for people like Donald Trump — and morally suspect candidates like Roy Moore. Rhetoric, not morality, drives their voting habits.

All of this has made a mockery of white evangelical protestations about morality and the family. Moral issues once drove white evangelical votes but, first when Obama was elected and then when the Supreme Court struck down the federal ban on same sex marriage in June of 2015, what remained was their fear. Trump promised justices and a return to a time when they felt less fear, and he delivered, at least on the former. White evangelical fealty to him is firm. Evangelicals in America are not simply a religious group; they are a political group inexorably linked to the Republican Party.

Trump delivered evangelicals from the shame of losing, and they will back him again in 2020 to avoid losing again. So perhaps we should take evangelicals at their word that they will support Trump come hell or high water, rather than twisting ourselves into knots trying to figure out why.

Anthea Butler is an associate professor of Religious Studies and Africana Studies at the University of Pennsylvania. She is the author of "Women in the Church of God in Christ: Making A Sanctified World" (The University of North Carolina Press) and her forthcoming book is tentatively titled “From Palin to Trump: Evangelicals, Race, and Nationalism” (The New Press).

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/white-evangelicals-love-trump-aren-t-confused-about-why-no-ncna1046826

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« Reply #58121 on: October 7, 2019, 07:44:56 am »
Once you're out you don't want back in.

Since the Net, it's dangerous and hateful to the nth degree.  Shit money - for the hours and lifestyle, little job satisfaction, loads of mither, constant criticism, tough, tough choices.

To be elected in America, you've got to profess to love God  ::) and be squeaky clean.

Once in, you've got to be all things to all people. 

America has a scumbag as President.  In light of the world today many Yanks are fine with that.

Nah. It's a drug. They always want to come back. Look at Mitt Romney.  The likes of McConnell, and even Biden,  should be enjoying retirement.

When you have a taste of power, the perks and the privileges, you dont just shake that off. Especially if you start to feel some orange skinned numb nuts chased you out of the game. They'll ho back in.
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« Reply #58122 on: October 7, 2019, 10:29:20 am »
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New whistleblower may give House Democrats fresh leads
 By ERIC TUCKER, RICHARD LARDNER and JILL COLVIN, Associated Press
2 hrs ago


WASHINGTON (AP) — House Democrats leading an impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine may have fresh information to work with after a new whistleblower stepped forward with what the person's lawyer said were firsthand knowledge of key events.

With Congress out for another week and many Republicans reticent to speak out, a text from attorney Mark Zaid that a second individual had emerged and could corroborate the original whistleblower's complaint gripped Washington and potentially heightened the stakes for Trump.

Zaid, who represents both whistleblowers, told The Associated Press that the new whistleblower works in the intelligence field and has spoken to the intelligence community's internal watchdog.

The original whistleblower, a CIA officer, filed a formal complaint with the inspector general in August that triggered the impeachment inquiry. The document alleged that Trump had used a July telephone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to investigate a political rival, Joe Biden, and his son Hunter, prompting a White House cover-up.

The push came even though there was no evidence of wrongdoing by the former vice president or his son, who served on the board of a Ukrainian gas company. Trump and his supporters deny that he did anything improper, but the White House has struggled to come up with a unified response.

A second whistleblower with direct knowledge could undermine efforts by Trump and his allies to discredit the original complaint. They have called it politically motivated, claimed it was filed improperly and dismissed it as unreliable because it was based on secondhand or thirdhand information.

A rough transcript of Trump's call with Zelenskiy, released by the White House, has already corroborated the complaint's central claim that Trump sought to pressure Ukraine on the investigation.

Text messages from State Department officials revealed other details, including that Ukraine was promised a visit with Trump if the government would agree to investigate the 2016 election and a Ukrainian gas company tied to Biden's son — the outline of a potential quid pro quo.

Rep. Jim Himes, D-Conn., a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said word of a second whistleblower indicates a larger shift inside the government.

"The president's real problem is that his behavior has finally gotten to a place where people are saying, 'Enough,'" Himes said.

On Sept. 25, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi initiated an impeachment inquiry against President Trump, following the whistle-blower complaint over his dealings with Ukraine. Select Congressional committees returned to the Capitol to continue impeachment proceedings throughout the week as Congress remains on recess.

Democrats have zeroed in on the State Department in the opening phase of their impeachment investigation. The Intelligence, Oversight and Foreign Affairs committees have already interviewed Kurt Volker, a former special envoy to Ukraine who provided the text messages, and least two other witnesses are set for depositions this week: Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, and Marie Yovanovitch, who was abruptly ousted as the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine in May.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., one of Trump's most vocal backers, provided perhaps the strongest defense of the president. He said there was nothing wrong with Trump's July conversation with Zelenskiy and said the accusations look like a "political setup."

As for Trump, rather than visiting his nearby golf course in Sterling, Virginia, for a second day, he stayed at the White House on Sunday, where he tweeted and retweeted, with the Bidens a main target.

"The great Scam is being revealed!" Trump wrote at one point, continuing to paint himself as the victim of a "deep state" and hostile Democrats.

Aside from Trump's attempt to pressure Zelenskiy, the July call has raised questions about whether Trump held back near $400 million in critical American military aid to Ukraine as leverage for an investigation of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company.

Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma at the same time his father was leading the Obama administration's diplomatic dealings with Ukraine. Though the timing raised concerns among anti-corruption advocates, there has been no evidence of wrongdoing by either Biden.

Joe Biden, a leading candidate for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, wrote in The Washington Post that he had a message for Trump and "those who facilitate his abuses of power. ... Please know that I'm not going anywhere. You won't destroy me, and you won't destroy my family."

Additional details about the origins of Trump's July 25 call with Zelenskiy have emerged over the weekend.

Energy Secretary Rick Perry had encouraged Trump to speak with the Ukrainian leader, but on energy and economic issues, according to spokeswoman Shaylyn Hynes. She said Perry's interest in Ukraine is part of U.S. efforts to boost Western energy ties to Eastern Europe.

Trump, who has repeatedly has described his conversation with Zelenskiy as "perfect," told House Republicans on Friday night that it was Perry who teed up the July call, according to a person familiar with Trump's comments who was granted anonymity to discuss them. The person said Trump did not suggest that Perry had anything to do with the pressure to investigate the Bidens.

Himes appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation" while Graham spoke on Fox News Channel's "Sunday Morning Futures."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-whistleblower-may-give-house-democrats-fresh-leads/ar-AAIo3nM?ocid=spartandhp
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« Reply #58123 on: October 7, 2019, 10:33:39 am »
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Trump accuses Pelosi of 'treason' and calls for her to be 'immediately impeached'
 Carlin Becker
5 hrs ago


President Trump accused House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of treason and called for her, along with House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, to be impeached.

"Nancy Pelosi knew of all of the many Shifty Adam Schiff lies and massive frauds perpetrated upon Congress and the American people, in the form of a fraudulent speech knowingly delivered as a ruthless con, and the illegal meetings with a highly partisan 'Whistleblower' & lawyer," he tweeted Sunday night.

The president continued, "This makes Nervous Nancy every bit as guilty as Liddle’ Adam Schiff for High Crimes and Misdemeanors, and even Treason. I guess that means that they, along with all of those that evilly 'Colluded' with them, must all be immediately Impeached!"


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Nancy Pelosi knew of all of the many Shifty Adam Schiff lies and massive frauds perpetrated upon Congress and the American people, in the form of a fraudulent speech knowingly delivered as a ruthless con, and the illegal meetings with a highly partisan “Whistleblower” & lawyer...

Trump has repeatedly railed against Schiff ever since the California Democrat read a summarization of the president's July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, during which Trump asked the foreign leader to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, the 2020 Democratic front-runner, and his son Hunter.

In addition to calling on Schiff to resign, the president has accused the congressman of helping to write an intelligence community whistleblower's complaint about the call, which paved the way for House Democrats to launch an impeachment inquiry into Trump, after news broke that the unnamed CIA officer spoke with House Intelligence staff before filing the complaint.

Schiff has defended his rendition of Trump's phone call as "at least in part parody" but faced backlash for his earlier knowledge of the complaint. Over the weekend, a second whistleblower with more direct information on the president's dealings with Ukraine came forward.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-accuses-pelosi-of-treason-and-calls-for-her-to-be-immediately-impeached/ar-AAInMiX?ocid=spartandhp


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« Reply #58124 on: October 7, 2019, 01:03:41 pm »
US troops make way for Turkey operation against Kurds in Syria

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has confirmed that US troops have started withdrawing from positions in northern Syria.

Mr Erdogan spoke hours after the White House said American forces in north-east Syria will move aside and clear the way for an expected Turkish incursion.

The announcement has cast uncertainty on the fate of Kurdish fighters allied with the US against the so-called Islamic State group (IS).

Turkey has threatened for months to launch a military operation to drive away Syrian Kurdish fighters from a border region east of the Euphrates River.

Mr Erdogan said Turkey is determined to halt what it perceives as threats from the Syrian Kurdish fighters.

He also said he planned to travel to Washington next month to meet with US President Donald Trump.

The US move essentially abandons Kurdish fighters who fought alongside American forces in the years-long battle to defeat IS.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) said the move comes as Turkey is preparing to attack Kurdish-held areas in north-east Syria.

The group's statement warns the Turkish invasion would be a blow to the fight against IS militants.

The Kurdish Hawar news agency and the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights also said American troops were evacuating positions near the towns of Ras al-Ayn and Tal Abyad on Monday.

The Syrian Kurdish fighters also accused Washington of failing to abide by its commitments to its key allies in the fight against IS.

The move marks a major shift in US policy.

There has been no immediate comment on the pullout from US officials.

Mr Erdogan has threatened for months to launch the military operation across the border.

He views the Syrian Kurdish forces as a threat to his country, as Ankara struggles with a Kurdish insurgency within Turkey.

In the US, Republicans and Democrats have warned that allowing the Turkish attack could lead to a massacre of the Kurds and send a troubling message to American allies across the globe.

The SDF said: "The American forces did not abide by their commitments and withdrew their forces along the border with Turkey.

"Turkey now is preparing to invade northern and eastern parts of Syria."

In March, the group captured the last sliver of land held by the extremists, marking the end of the so-called caliphate that was declared by IS's leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in 2014.

The SDF said: "We will not hesitate for a moment in defending our people" against Turkish troops, adding that it has lost 11,000 fighters in the war against IS in Syria.

A Turkish attack would lead to a resurgence of IS, it said. IS sleeper cells are already plotting to break free some 12,000 militants detained by Syrian Kurdish fighters in north-eastern Syria in a "threat to local and international security".

The Kurdish fighters also control the al-Hol camp, home to more than 70,000 mostly wives and children of IS fighters.

Turkish foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu tweeted that since the beginning of the crisis in Syria, "we have supported the territorial integrity of this country, and we will continue to support it".

He added that Ankara is determined to ensure the survival and security of Turkey "by clearing the region from terrorists. We will contribute to peace, peace and stability in Syria".

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-10-07/turkey-to-invade-northern-syria-says-white-house/

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« Reply #58125 on: October 7, 2019, 01:11:40 pm »

So Trump is abandoning the Kurds to Turkey. Convinced them to take down their defences with protection guarantees and then abandons them to Turkey. Foolish Kurds...if it is you vs Trump Tower there is only one winner.



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« Reply #58126 on: October 7, 2019, 01:47:06 pm »
So Trump is abandoning the Kurds to Turkey. Convinced them to take down their defences with protection guarantees and then abandons them to Turkey. Foolish Kurds...if it is you vs Trump Tower there is only one winner.

Relax, it's not like anyone in the region has been abandoned by the USA in the past and, as a result, gone on to form anti-western terror groups that caused hundreds of thousands of deaths... it's all fine...


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« Reply #58127 on: October 7, 2019, 02:01:58 pm »
Relax, it's not like anyone in the region has been abandoned by the USA in the past and, as a result, gone on to form anti-western terror groups that caused hundreds of thousands of deaths... it's all fine...

And it's not the first time the USA has abandoned the Kurds either.

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« Reply #58128 on: October 7, 2019, 03:12:49 pm »
Former Italian PM Renzi to sue former Trump aide over smear claims

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ROME (Reuters) - Former Italian prime minister, Matteo Renzi, said on Friday he would sue George Papadopoulos, a one-time campaign aide for U.S. President Donald Trump, over allegations that Renzi had tried to undermine Trump’s 2016 election campaign.

In an interview published earlier on Friday, Papadopoulos told the Italian daily La Verita he believed Renzi had acted on the orders of former U.S. President Barack Obama to “strike a low blow” against Trump in the run-up to the 2016 vote.

Renzi denied the allegation in a post on Facebook, saying Papadopoulos’s accusation was “seriously damaging to my reputation.” He added: “See you in court.”

Papadopoulos shot back on Twitter, calling Renzi “the failed former Italian Prime Minister,” and reiterating his accusation that Renzi had attempted to interfere in the U.S. election.

Earlier in the day, Papadopoulos had tweeted that “The Italian spygate story will cost Matteo Renzi, Italy’s former socialist prime minister in 2016, his political career,” posting a photo of his interview with La Verita.

Papadopoulos, plucked out of obscurity to work as a foreign policy adviser for Trump's presidential run, pleaded guilty in October 2017 to lying to the FBI here about contacts with people who claimed to have ties to top Russian officials, in the first criminal charges alleging links between the campaign and Moscow.

U.S. intelligence agencies here and Special Counsel Robert Mueller have concluded that Russia interfered here in the 2016 election with a scheme of hacking and propaganda to boost Trump's candidacy and disparage his opponent Hillary Clinton.

Under his plea deal, Papadopoulos said the Maltese academic, Joseph Mifsud, had told him in April 2016 that Russia had “dirt” on Clinton, the Democratic candidate at the time for the presidency.

Papadopoulos first met Mifsud in Rome and he alleged in comments to La Verita that the CIA and FBI had used “people like Mifsud” to spy on him and to try to sabotage the Trump presidential campaign.

“I think it was impossible for such an operation to take place without the knowledge of the government of the day. Renzi was taking orders from someone and he was very happy to obey,” Papadopoulos was quoted as saying.

The case has returned to the fore following reports that U.S. Attorney General William Barr held secret meetings here with Italian intelligence agencies in Rome as part of an investigation by Trump's administration into the origins of the inquiry into Russian interference in the 2016 American election.

A source close to the matter told Reuters on Thursday that Barr met with Italian intelligence officials in Rome on Sept. 27.

Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte, who is in charge of Italy’s secret services, said on Friday the intelligence chiefs “committed no misconduct or anomaly.”

“Everything was done transparently,” Conte told reporters, adding he would only comment further on the matter in testimony to a parliamentary committee on security.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-italy-renzi-idUSKBN1WJ1SF

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« Reply #58129 on: October 7, 2019, 03:16:09 pm »
Trump says 'too costly' to back Kurdish forces in Syria

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday defended a decision to withdraw U.S. troops from northern Syria, saying it was too costly to keep supporting U.S-allied, Kurdish-led forces in the region fighting Islamic State militants.

“The Kurds fought with us, but were paid massive amounts of money and equipment to do so. They have been fighting Turkey for decades,” Trump said in a series of tweets.

“Turkey, Europe, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Russia and the Kurds will now have to figure the situation out,” Trump said.

The Trump administration’s move, which opens the way for a Turkish strike on Kurdish fighters long aligned with Washington, runs counter to the positions of even some of Trump’s top allies in his own party.

Lindsey Graham, a Republican senator who is generally a vocal Trump supporter, wrote in a series of Twitter posts that he was trying to set up a call with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and would introduce a Senate resolution opposing the withdrawal decision and calling for it to be reversed.

“It’s never in our national security interest to abandon an ally who’s helped us fight ISIS,” Graham said in an interview with Fox News Channel, using an acronym for Islamic State.

“This impulsive decision by the president has undone all the gains we’ve made, thrown the region into further chaos.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-usa-trump/trump-says-too-costly-to-back-kurdish-forces-in-syria-idUSKBN1WM18K

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« Reply #58130 on: October 7, 2019, 03:28:22 pm »
Trump tax returns must be given to prosecutor, judge rules

A judge has ordered US President Donald Trump to hand over eight years of his tax returns to a New York state criminal investigation.

The judge rejected arguments by the president's lawyers that total immunity protects him while in office.

Mr Trump is the only presidential candidate since the 1960s apart from Gerald Ford not to release tax returns.

The ruling helps an investigation into hush money paid to two women who claim they had affairs with Mr Trump.

In his 75-page decision on Monday, Judge Victor Marrero said he could not allow a "categorical and limitless assertion of presidential immunity from judicial process".

"The only truly absolute about presidential immunity from criminal process is the Constitution' s silence about the existence and contours of such an exemption," he wrote.

Judge Marrero concluded that the president's argument, at its core, was "repugnant to the nation's governmental structure and constitutional values".

Mr Trump's lawyers immediately filed an emergency appeal with a higher court.

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« Reply #58131 on: October 7, 2019, 04:54:43 pm »
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As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!). They must, with Europe and others, watch over...

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....the captured ISIS fighters and families. The U.S. has done far more than anyone could have ever expected, including the capture of 100% of the ISIS Caliphate. It is time now for others in the region, some of great wealth, to protect their own territory. THE USA IS GREAT!

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« Reply #58132 on: October 7, 2019, 04:55:53 pm »
He's obliterated the economy of Turkey before?

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« Reply #58133 on: October 7, 2019, 04:59:37 pm »
He's obliterated the economy of Turkey before?

Through his great and unmatched wisdom apparently

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« Reply #58134 on: October 7, 2019, 05:03:58 pm »
“Great and unmatched wisdom”

Fucking hell, if anyone needed any further evidence of this guys megalomanicatic tendencies then there it is...!

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« Reply #58135 on: October 7, 2019, 05:04:42 pm »
Makes me all very sad this, you have to wonder how we ended up here.

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« Reply #58136 on: October 7, 2019, 05:12:45 pm »
Good grief... those tweets.  :o

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« Reply #58137 on: October 7, 2019, 05:19:59 pm »
He's obliterated the economy of Turkey before?

I assume he's referring to the tariffs he increased in August 2018 when the two countries fell out over a US pastor that was being held in Turkey on suspicion of having links to those Turkey believes were involved with the failed coup there in 2016.

Trump doubles metal tariffs on Turkey as lira falls by 20%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45123607

Trump made similar threats to the ones he's made today back in January of this year.

Turkey dismisses Trump threat to economy over Syrian Kurds
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46860902
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« Reply #58138 on: October 7, 2019, 05:22:32 pm »
“In my great and unmatched wisdom”.

Aren’t dictators supposed to have people say that for them?  I guess saying it has been a step to far even his biggest sycophants so he has to try it out himself.

Ought to set a few more alarm bells ringing though.

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« Reply #58139 on: October 7, 2019, 05:22:54 pm »
He's always been utterly nasty, but he just appears increasingly unhinged now

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« Reply #58140 on: October 7, 2019, 05:41:11 pm »
Maybe he's parodying Liddle Shifty Adam Schitt.

A legend in his own mind.

Clearly unhinged.
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Trump's Syria withdrawal announcement draws GOP condemnation
 By ZEKE MILLER, LOLITA C. BALDOR and JILL COLVIN, Associated Press
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's sudden decision to pull back U.S. troops from northern Syria drew quick criticism Monday from some of his closest allies in Congress as well as Kurdish fighters who would essentially be abandoned to face a likely Turkish assault after fighting alongside American forces against the Islamic State.

The announcement threw the military situation in Syria into fresh chaos and injected deeper uncertainty into U.S. relations with European allies. Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham called it "a disaster," while Syria's Kurds accused the U.S. of turning its back on allies and risking gains made in the yearslong fight against ISIS.

Trump defended the move in a series of tweets, acknowledging that "the Kurds fought with us," but adding that they "were paid massive amounts of money and equipment to do so."

"I held off this fight for almost 3 years, but it is time for us to get out of these ridiculous Endless Wars, many of them tribal, and bring our soldiers home," he wrote, adding, in all capital letters, that "We will fight where it is to our benefit, and only fight to win."

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has threatened for months to launch a military operation across the Syrian border. He views the Kurdish forces as a threat to his country. Both Republicans and Democrats in the U.S. have warned that allowing the Turkish attack could lead to a massacre of the Kurds and send a troubling message to American allies across the globe.

U.S. troops "will not support or be involved in the operation" and "will no longer be in the immediate area," in northern Syria, White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said in an unusual late-Sunday statement that was silent on the fate of the Kurds.

There are about 1,000 U.S. troops in northern Syria, and a senior U.S. official said they will pull back from the area — and potentially depart the country entirely should widespread fighting break out between Turkish and Kurdish forces.

A U.S. official confirmed that American troops were already moving out of the security zone area, which includes the Syrian towns of Ras al-Ayn and Tal Abyad. That official was not authorized to speak for the record and was granted anonymity to comment.

Trump's move appeared to take even his closest allies by surprise during a pivotal moment of his presidency. House Democrats are marching forward with their impeachment inquiry into whether he compromised national security or abused his office by seeking negative information on former Vice President Joe Biden, a political rival, from foreign countries.

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., did say Monday in an appearance on "Fox & Friends" that he had been briefed by the president about the decision. But he also said he had concerns.

"I want to make sure we keep our word for those who fight with us and help us," he said, adding that, "If you make a commitment and somebody is fighting with you, America should keep their word."

Graham, R-S.C., one of Trump's most vocal backers, also called in to "Fox and Friends" to share his dismay, calling the decision "short-sighted and irresponsible."

"This impulsive decision by the president has undone all the gains we've made, thrown the region into further chaos. Iran is licking their chops. And if I'm an ISIS fighter, I've got a second lease on life," he said. "I like president Trump. I've tried to help him. This to me is just unnerving to its core."

Former Trump administration officials also expressed alarm.

Nikki Haley, who served as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said the U.S. "must always have the backs of our allies, if we expect them to have our back. The Kurds were instrumental in our successful fight against ISIS in Syria. Leaving them to die is a big mistake."

And Brett McGurk, a former senior diplomat who was the special envoy for the U.S.-led anti-Islamic State coalition until he resigned in protest, labeled Trump "not a commander in chief." He accused Trump of making "impulsive decisions with no knowledge or deliberation," sending military personnel into harm's way with no backing and leaving "our allies exposed when adversaries call his bluff or he confronts a hard phone call."

Sunday's announcement followed a call between Trump and Erdogan, the White House said Sunday.

The decision is an illustration of Trump's focus on ending American overseas entanglements — one of his key campaign promises. His goals of swift withdrawals in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan have been stymied by concerns from U.S. officials and American allies about the dangerous voids that would remain.

As he faces the impeachment inquiry at home, Trump has appeared more focused on making good on his political pledges, even at the risk of sending a troubling signal to American allies abroad.

In December, Trump announced he would withdraw American troops from Syria but was met with widespread condemnation for abandoning Kurdish allies. That announcement prompted the resignations in protest of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and McGurk, and an effort by then-national security adviser John Bolton to try to protect the Kurds.

Since January, U.S. officials have tried to broker the creation of a "safe zone" in northern Syria to provide a security buffer between the Turkish military and Kurdish forces, but Turkey has repeatedly objected to its slow implementation.

Turkey considers the People's Protection Units, or YPG, an extension of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, which has waged an insurgency against Turkey for 35 years.

The Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces threatened to respond forcefully to any Turkish incursion.

A Kurdish official speaking on condition of anonymity said Monday the Kurds expected a limited Turkish operation and were still working to ascertain what will happen with American forces in the region.

The White House said Turkey will take custody of foreign fighters captured in the U.S.-led campaign against the Islamic State group who have been held by the Kurdish forces supported by the U.S.

The Kurds have custody of thousands of captured Islamic State militants. They include about 2,500 highly dangerous foreign fighters from Europe and elsewhere whose native countries have been reluctant to take them back and another 10,000 or so captured fighters from Syria and Iraq.

Trump has repeatedly demanded that European countries, particularly France and Germany, take back their citizens who joined the militant organization. He wrote Monday that it will now be up to countries in the region to decide what to do with captured fighters, and warned of retribution in response to any future attacks.

"We are 7,000 miles away and will crush ISIS again if they come anywhere near us!" he wrote.

IS was defeated in Iraq in 2017. In Syria it lost its last territory in March, marking the end of the extremists' self-declared caliphate. Despite these battlefield defeats, IS sleeper cells have continued to launch attacks in Iraq and Syria.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-syria-withdrawal-announcement-draws-gop-condemnation/ar-AAIp0Wm
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« Reply #58142 on: October 7, 2019, 05:58:28 pm »
I thought that was a not very amusing p*sstake. He's unhinged.

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« Reply #58143 on: October 7, 2019, 06:16:36 pm »
"But the Democrats made me vote for Trump".

On this board, in 2016. How'd you like it now?

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« Reply #58144 on: October 7, 2019, 06:29:00 pm »
"But the Democrats made me vote for Trump".

On this board, in 2016. How'd you like it now?

Whoever they were, they are long gone. Why didn't you quote the whole post?

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« Reply #58145 on: October 7, 2019, 06:33:40 pm »
Whoever they were, they are long gone. Why didn't you quote the whole post?
Nope, some are still active on this board. I'd like to understand if they'd do it again (vote for him) and if so, why.

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« Reply #58146 on: October 7, 2019, 06:34:53 pm »
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....almost 3 years, but it is time for us to get out of these ridiculous Endless Wars, many of them tribal, and bring our soldiers home. WE WILL FIGHT WHERE IT IS TO OUR BENEFIT, AND ONLY FIGHT TO WIN. Turkey, Europe, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Russia and the Kurds will now have to figure the situation out, and what they want to do with the captured ISIS fighters in their “neighborhood.” They all hate ISIS, have been enemies for years. We are 7000 miles away and will crush ISIS again if they come anywhere near us!

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« Reply #58147 on: October 7, 2019, 06:36:01 pm »
Nope, some are still active on this board. I'd like to understand if they'd do it again (vote for him) and if so, why.

They'd be a good barometer of his support.

But you know their answers and they don't need the aggro.
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« Reply #58148 on: October 7, 2019, 06:40:02 pm »
The GOP will find an excuse to break ranks.  They're an ace away from a panic attack.

Trump's basically said he's only interested in fighting wars he can win (in his own head at least); and once again he complains about the money.  More soft power is being eroded here.

The GOP will turn on him.  They'll take the beating in the polls and they'll put up with whatever lunatics win the nominations because the GOP know they wont get elected.  They'll endure it and rebuild.

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« Reply #58149 on: October 7, 2019, 06:50:08 pm »
The GOP will find an excuse to break ranks.  They're an ace away from a panic attack.

Trump's basically said he's only interested in fighting wars he can win (in his own head at least); and once again he complains about the money.  More soft power is being eroded here.

The GOP will turn on him.  They'll take the beating in the polls and they'll put up with whatever lunatics win the nominations because the GOP know they wont get elected.  They'll endure it and rebuild.

Can a decision like this be overturned in the House?
Do you really think they'll do this before next year's election? I just feel they're going to double down and sink further just so they can secure possibly another SC pick and some more tax cuts over a potential second term.

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« Reply #58150 on: October 7, 2019, 07:02:16 pm »
Do you really think they'll do this before next year's election? I just feel they're going to double down and sink further just so they can secure possibly another SC pick and some more tax cuts over a potential second term.

The one thing that is holding many in the GOP back is that they could be primaried - or, if they are retiring, whoever they would like to replace them could be primaried.  Of course they'll try to tough it out but the reaction to Trump's Kurdish decision shows they're starting to panic.  On top of the impeachment investigation it's becoming increasingly difficult for them to run interference.  At this rate it wont matter who wins the nominations because they're chances of getting elected are being badly eroded.

Their best option is to get him out and shut down his twitter platform.  And I do honestly think they have begun contingency plans.  They've got their judges so it would be crazy not to.
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« Reply #58151 on: October 7, 2019, 07:22:08 pm »
In two short years, Fungus has abdicated US influence in Asia and the Pacific to China, and now allowed Russia to dominate the Middle East.

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« Reply #58152 on: October 7, 2019, 07:42:25 pm »
Syria's Kurds accused the U.S. of turning its back on allies and risking gains made in the yearslong fight against ISIS.

Trump defended the move in a series of tweets, acknowledging that "the Kurds fought with us," but adding that they "were paid massive amounts of money and equipment to do so."
He just sentenced thousands of Kurds - who fought alongside Americans - to death. Keep in mind also that the Kurds in Iraq are watching this as well.

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EXCLUSIVE: OFFICIAL WHO HEARD CALL SAYS TRUMP GOT 'ROLLED' BY TURKEY AND 'HAS NO SPINE'
BY JAMES LAPORTA ON 10/7/19 AT 2:16 PM EDT


Donald Trump got "rolled" by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a National Security Council source with direct knowledge of the discussions told Newsweek.

In a scheduled phone call on Sunday afternoon between President Trump and President Erdogan, Trump said he would withdraw U.S. forces from northern Syria. The phone call was scheduled after Turkey announced it was planning to invade Syria, and hours after Erdogan reinforced his army units at the Syrian-Turkish border and issued his strongest threat to launch a military incursion, according to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of anonymity.

The U.S. withdrawal plays into the hands of the Islamic State group, Damascus and Moscow, and the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials. Turkey, like the United States, wants regime change in Syria. Russia and Iran support the Assad regime.

"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."

Newsweek granted the National Security Council official anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. The source said it would not be surprising to see a Turkish incursion in the next 24 to 96 hours.

Turkey has long considered the Kurdish militia in Syria to be a terrorist insurgency, despite the United States providing military and financial aid to the group in its fight against ISIS, the Islamic State militant group. A battle with the vastly superior military of Turkey, a NATO ally, could drive the Kurds into the arms of Bashar Al-Assad, the Syrian dictator that Washington wants ousted, and by extension into an alliance with Russia and Iran, two U.S. rivals with forces in Syria.

The White House said late Sunday evening in a statement that Turkey will soon invade northern Syria but both the Defense Department and Trump on Twitter said they made clear to Turkey that they do not endorse a Turkish operation in northern Syria.

"As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I've done before!)," said Trump on Twitter Monday. "They must, with Europe and others, watch over the captured ISIS fighters and families...it is time now for others in the region, some of great wealth, to protect their own territory."

According to the NSC official, who had first-hand knowledge of the phone call, Trump did not endorse any Turkish military operation against Kurdish Forces, but also did not threaten economic sanctions during the phone call if Turkey decided to undertake offensive operations.

In a statement, White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham said, "The United States Armed Forces will not support or be involved in the operation, and United States forces, having defeated the ISIS territorial "Caliphate," will no longer be in the immediate area."

The New York Times reported Monday that about 100 to 150 American forces would withdraw from northern Syria but not completely from the country. Newsweek confirmed the Times reporting but the National Security Council official said the number was closer to 230 service members, among them U.S. Special Forces and reconnaissance units.

The Times also reported witnesses observed United States forces withdraw from two observation posts in Tel Abyad and Ein Eissa in northeastern Syria. Newsweek confirmed these on Monday—a senior Defense Department official said American forces are about 90 percent complete with the withdraw as of publication.

One of the main issues in the phone call between the two world leaders concerned the roughly 2,000 Islamic State militant prisoners being held by the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Defense Forces in northeastern Syria, who the U.S. military assists financially.

Trump told Erdogan he did not want anything to do with ISIS prisoners despite the United States not currently detaining Islamic State prisoners in Syria. The Syrian Defense Forces control custody of the prisoners.

Erdogan said Turkey would take custody of the ISIS militant prisoners, according to the White House statement and the National Security Council official Newsweek spoke to for this story.

"The ISIS prisoners, some of them, will eventually be freed amongst the chaos, and remain in the area or go elsewhere to rejoin the fight," speculated the National Security Council official.

The White House statement on Sunday also expressed Trump's long-held frustration with how other NATO-allied countries had dealt with captured Islamic State group fighters. The statement singled out "France, Germany and other European nations," for refusing to take back their citizens who had joined the Islamic State militant group.

U.S. Army General Mark A. Milley, Trump's newly minted chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, is scheduled to meet with the service chiefs this morning to discuss the matter, said National Security Council source.

The National Security Council official said they could not speak about what Trump's admirals and generals may plan, but said they would not expect anything out of the usual norms as the Defense Department follows orders with or without advanced knowledge.

If the United States had refused to move out of Turkey's war path, U.S options would not just be the threat of potential conflict between nation-state militaries, it would have been applied pressure on the Turkish economy, according to the National Security Council official.

However, the United States chose not to stand its ground to protect Kurdish Forces against Turkish airstrikes as a part of Trump's "America First policy" and his historical views that war is bad for business, according to the official.

On Sunday, Erdogan reinforced his army units at the Syrian-Turkish border hours after he issued his strongest threat to launch Turkish forces over the border and into the "buffer zone," between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.

The buffer zone—sometimes referred to as the peace corridor—was established to prevent another Turkish invasion of northern Syria. The United States had been working to establish a proper demilitarized zone prior to Trump's endorsement of Turkey's military plans.

If Trump's withdraw of U.S. forces had not occurred, the National Security Council official told Newsweek, the United States could have continued to refine the buffer zone on the Syrian-Turkish border.

"To be honest with you, it would be better for the United States to support a Kurdish nation across Turkey, Syria and Iraq," said the National Security Council official. "It would be another Israel in the region."

The current foreign policy debacle is what prompted Trump's former defense secretary, James Mattis, to resign his post after Trump decided to abruptly withdraw American forces from Syria in December 2018. Mattis was the last of the generals touted as the "adults" in the administration—and was an outspoken opponent of a Syrian withdrawal.

A senior Defense Department official told Newsweek in January no U.S. general was happy with the decision to pull back U.S. troops from Syria as Pentagon officials feared the withdrawal could spark an ISIS resurgence similar to the Taliban's growing influence and territory in Afghanistan.

Administration officials in January told Newsweek Trump's sudden withdraw order could undercut strategic U.S. alliances with regional allies; free Russia and Iran to re-establish a full military presence and solid footing in the Mediterranean; and leave U.S.-backed Kurdish fighters vulnerable to being decimated by a Turkish air campaign.

A complete withdrawal could also potentially give up a valuable regional position to American military forces that threaten United States interests in the region, including the interests of allies such as Israel and, to some extent, Jordan.

The National Security Council official compared Turkey to "playground bullies" on Monday.

"When the bigger guy [United States] moves aside in the playground, they [Turkey] get to beat on the smaller guy [Syrian Defense Forces] and this is not about the U.S. being the world police," the National Security Council source told Newsweek.

"We are telling the world, we will use you and then throw you away," the official added. "It's not like they don't have a television in Asia, in Africa, and South America."

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« Reply #58154 on: October 7, 2019, 08:40:19 pm »
No one will defeat the Kurds.

Saladin was a Kurd.
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« Reply #58155 on: October 7, 2019, 08:44:35 pm »
This is beyond shameful.
Istanbul Trump Tower opens.  US opens the Kurdish door within 24 hours.
Is this true?  If it is it’s a fucking scandal in itself.  Every other president divested himself of his business interests until this guy, and lo! this happens.

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« Reply #58156 on: October 7, 2019, 09:12:10 pm »
This is beyond shameful.Is this true?  If it is it’s a fucking scandal in itself.  Every other president divested himself of his business interests until this guy, and lo! this happens.

Fake news, I misread a retweet.  My bad.

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« Reply #58157 on: October 7, 2019, 09:15:21 pm »
Trump shitting all over America's Kurdish allies.

Stop the War will be pleased of course.

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« Reply #58158 on: October 7, 2019, 09:19:32 pm »
So with the US moving out of Syria, the Kurds are on their own. And that means Turkey can have a go at them. Now I understand that Trump wants to get America out of wars, but he is absolutely clueless. What he's doing now is essentially what Bush Sr did. Bush Sr told the Iraqi people to revolt against Saddam and ooops, Saddam killed them. Now the Kurds have stood up against Daesh and the thank you for that is Turkey can attack them. And before that Trump has decided to stand by Saudi, who funded Daesh. He has also decided Iran are evil, but forgets that Iran were fighting to defeat Daesh.

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