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I'll be honest, I've taken the piss and slagged Paul Merson off in the past. Not again. Quite hard to watch him opening up about his gambling addiction on tv there.
Felt exactly the same. Found myself separating the lets be honest fairly idiotic pundit from the poor sod having to deal with this. Was quite touched by Fowler offering support.

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I'll be honest, I've taken the piss and slagged Paul Merson off in the past. Not again. Quite hard to watch him opening up about his gambling addiction on tv there.

was this on Sky?

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was this on Sky?

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I'll be honest, I've taken the piss and slagged Paul Merson off in the past. Not again. Quite hard to watch him opening up about his gambling addiction on tv there.

I came in the post something similar - to see someone really struggling with an addiction that he has had since he was a teenager isn't nice.
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Tyler and Steve mcmannaman, Tyler’s a manc loving twat and mcmannaman is the most miserable bastard alive, whinges about everything regardless of team, swear he hates Liverpool as well

He definitely doesn't hate us. Every time we score you can hear him celebrating in the background, which just about sums him up. He does love a moan though.

I'm still saying Andy Hinchcliffe is the worst. An incredibly average footballer who criticises everything like he was the hybrid of Maldini and Messi. Constantly chats utter shit too. Plus he seems to commentate on at least one game every day.
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Harrys heroes on ITV last night

I came in the post something similar - to see someone really struggling with an addiction that he has had since he was a teenager isn't nice.

Gambling is a horrible addiction too, so many ways to gamble with internet, you don't have to go to a betting shop/casino, then your watching TV then a betting/casino advert comes on that can make things even more tempting, gambling adverts should be banned, then there's those fixed odds betting terminals, someone like Merson, it won't be placing £15-£20 bets, it'll be in the hundreds, maybe thousands.
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Gambling is a horrible addiction too, so many ways to gamble with internet, you don't have to go to a betting shop/casino, then your watching TV then a betting/casino advert comes on that can make things even more tempting, gambling adverts should be banned, then there's those fixed odds betting terminals, someone like Merson, it won't be placing £15-£20 bets, it'll be in the hundreds, maybe thousands.

He said last night the first time he got paid at Arsenal, £100, he went in the bookies - lost the lot in 15 minutes.

Online betting has made it simple for the likes of me, who bet very occasionally and in samll amounts, to place a bet there and then, sometimes I'll do the next 2 minutes what will happen just for a bit of fun, but for an addict, it's like sticking an alcoholic in a drinks warehouse. Like you say, he will be betting fortunes.
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Danny Mills.

He really hates us and i think it's because we pipped Leeds to that CL spot  in the treble cup season that fucked the club up as Peter Ridsdale had mortgaged the Leeds up to the eyeballs and they were dependent on CL revenues, once they lost that spot the club went into financial meltdown.
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He said last night the first time he got paid at Arsenal, £100, he went in the bookies - lost the lot in 15 minutes.

Online betting has made it simple for the likes of me, who bet very occasionally and in samll amounts, to place a bet there and then, sometimes I'll do the next 2 minutes what will happen just for a bit of fun, but for an addict, it's like sticking an alcoholic in a drinks warehouse. Like you say, he will be betting fortunes.

Indeed, i do like a bet myself but i normally put £5 mostly Saturday 3pm EFL matches[often both teams to score], that's nothing to an addict.

 Didn't Merson say he was 16 when he got first first £100 paycheck from Arsenal, which would have been mid 80s & in those days £100 was a lot of money, i wouldn't know what to do with £100 a week if i was on that, when i was 16, he even said he couldn't lose all the money he has lost gambling if he was a coke addict instead
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Danny Mills.

He really hates us and i think it's because we pipped Leeds to that CL spot  in the treble cup season that fucked the club up as Peter Ridsdale had mortgaged the Leeds up to the eyeballs and they were dependent on CL revenues, once they lost that spot the club went into financial meltdown.

Can't stand him, I have mentioned it on here before but people need reminding of the 2001 incident at Anfield involving him.

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Danny Mills is a bellend. Was it him that wanted Klopp banned/arrested and all sorts when he ran on the pitch vs Everton?

Tyler is obviously a massive prick too. He absolutely despises Liverpool and you can hear the desperation in his voice for something to go wrong.

Sam Matterface is another that I can't stand. Typical smug, Tory boy whose arrogance comes through quite clearly when he's commentating.

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Sam Matterface is another that I can't stand. Typical smug, Tory boy whose arrogance comes through quite clearly when he's commentating.

Can't believe he used to be married to Natalie Sawyer. She obviously came to her senses.

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I can't work out if Leon Stealing A Living Osman is a harmless bitter biased buffoon, or just a bit a bit thick.

I think he's a lot thick, not quite Phil Neville's level of thickness but not far off

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Danny Mills is a bellend. Was it him that wanted Klopp banned/arrested and all sorts when he ran on the pitch vs Everton?


Yep, he's an utter weapon.
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Just on Paul Merson, I ddin't realsie he was gambling again until I read it in here just now, that's very sad indeed
Its everywhere now, its an epidemic. A huge problem in this day and age when its a) so accessible and 2) everyone is getting squeezed for every last penny and see a quick few pound
You know what I find disgraceful, it will get chalked up as nothing or a coincidence or whatever, but a quick search on Merson and I found a clip of him talking on the show about being back gambling - but before the video started there was an advertisement for William Hill.


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Just on Paul Merson, I ddin't realsie he was gambling again until I read it in here just now, that's very sad indeed
Its everywhere now, its an epidemic. A huge problem in this day and age when its a) so accessible and 2) everyone is getting squeezed for every last penny and see a quick few pound
You know what I find disgraceful, it will get chalked up as nothing or a coincidence or whatever, but a quick search on Merson and I found a clip of him talking on the show about being back gambling - but before the video started there was an advertisement for William Hill.



If Sky had any decency they’d move him away from anything to do with SkyBet or the Super 6 stuff.

I think they're thinking of making it illegal to show betting adverts on tv before 9pm aren't they?

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If Sky had any decency they’d move him away from anything to do with SkyBet or the Super 6 stuff.

I think they're thinking of making it illegal to show betting adverts on tv before 9pm aren't they?

They have to, they have a duty to really, it might not stop him but at least it's not splashed all over their site him with a gambling link beside him. But then, Sky and Decency don't really go and in hand. They should really take him away from the predictions thing. I know it may seem innocent, but they give the odds next to his prediction, and for a gambler, for one or a few of them to come in and him not to have a bet on it, just fuels it.
Are they ?  Wonder how that will play out during games, half time and all that's when they're at their most potent I'd say

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i dont know their names but there's at least two chicks doing commentaries on tv and both are fucking woeful, it grates teh fuck on me

is it just the feminine voice? i dont know, i dont think it is, if that was a dude with a high voice i'd hate it as much im sure and i've seen chicks as pundits on tv (world cup black chick i recall) and listening to her talk about the game was fine, she didnt have a grating voice and knew what she was on about

but yeah, whatever the reason, i fucking hate those whinny voices as soon as they chime up to the point now im kinda 'fuck this, i can't watch this shit' and off it goes

and

leon osman was pretty shite on motd the other day, if he wants a career in that shit he best talk to G neville (easily the best pundit on tv imo) who shows you how to check your bias at the door - career suicide in that game if you can't (they'll all pander to it at times and openly voice 'maybe im bias' at times, but the good ones can see a game from a non supporter take)
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i dont know their names but there's at least two chicks doing commentaries on tv and both are fucking woeful, it grates teh fuck on me

is it just the feminine voice? i dont know, i dont think it is, if that was a dude with a high voice i'd hate it as much im sure and i've seen chicks as pundits on tv (world cup black chick i recall) and listening to her talk about the game was fine, she didnt have a grating voice and knew what she was on about

 
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I think there is an argument that some voice types are not suitable for commentaries, especially in moments of excitement or goals where the crowd noise rises and the commentator has to be heard above it. Some vocal types just end up having to shout or scream to be heard.

Whether this might apply more to female voices, or not, is up for debate. Or maybe for study and comparison. I don't know
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The one who sounds like Jonathon Pearce's sister (Jacquie Oatley?) is bad, comes across as really fake, bit like some of those clips on LFC TV where they've replaced the commentary

At first I put it down to her adding the commentary after the game but then heard her live and she was just as bad

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Jonathan Pearce needs binning off. Absolutely woeful. Spends most of the time moaning if a team isn't playing well or a player makes a mistake (as if they've got an obligation to entertain him personally).

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Indeed, i do like a bet myself but i normally put £5 mostly Saturday 3pm EFL matches[often both teams to score], that's nothing to an addict.

 Didn't Merson say he was 16 when he got first first £100 paycheck from Arsenal, which would have been mid 80s & in those days £100 was a lot of money, i wouldn't know what to do with £100 a week if i was on that, when i was 16, he even said he couldn't lose all the money he has lost gambling if he was a coke addict instead

I thought he said 16. I got my tax back when I was an apprentice for the corpy at 16, 1983, I picked up just shy of a hundred in cash - I bunked off college as I was terrified of losing it, the most money I had ever had, went to Beatties, bought a model and fucked off home.

We did the street fixtures, I was working in Norris Green, we had a portakabin on the junction of the East Lancs and Townsend. One of my jobs was to run the bookies for the time served fellas and put their bets on, that is the only reason I started betting.
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i dont know their names but there's at least two chicks doing commentaries on tv and both are fucking woeful, it grates teh fuck on me

is it just the feminine voice? i dont know, i dont think it is, if that was a dude with a high voice i'd hate it as much im sure and i've seen chicks as pundits on tv (world cup black chick i recall) and listening to her talk about the game was fine, she didnt have a grating voice and knew what she was on about

but yeah, whatever the reason, i fucking hate those whinny voices as soon as they chime up to the point now im kinda 'fuck this, i can't watch this shit' and off it goes

and

leon osman was pretty shite on motd the other day, if he wants a career in that shit he best talk to G neville (easily the best pundit on tv imo) who shows you how to check your bias at the door - career suicide in that game if you can't (they'll all pander to it at times and openly voice 'maybe im bias' at times, but the good ones can see a game from a non supporter take)

Have you listened to that whiny high pitched biased manc recently? Doesn't sound like it.
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you mean G neville? i havent been able to catch much in the way of live games of late - has he gone tits up as well?


on another note, seems im the only one that likes jonathan pearce lol i dont know if any recall his commentary when we were playing chelsea at home, winning late game, and yossi was holding the ball up at the corner flag and a chelsea twat stamped on his back with a linesman feet away and got fuckall from the officials - fucking priceless commentary that was lol


found it on youtube, unfortunately, not the commentary i was after, no matter, still makes me chuckle everytime i see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7sNO92GPuQ
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you mean G neville? i havent been able to catch much in the way of live games of late - has he gone tits up as well?

Absolutely. He's terrible.
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Absolutely. He's terrible.

i stand corrected if that's the case, cos he was very good and he could check his bias in his punditry (he's not as good a commentator as he is/was a pundit), pity

loathed him as a player, of course, but actually had to sit back and respect that he could put his bias to oneside, which frankly kinda amazed me, and he was on the ball in his analysis
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i stand corrected if that's the case, cos he was very good and he could check his bias in his punditry (he's not as good a commentator as he is/was a pundit), pity

loathed him as a player, of course, but actually had to sit back and respect that he could put his bias to oneside, which frankly kinda amazed me, and he was on the ball in his analysis

He was good before he went to Valencia granted, but he's been poor ever since.
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He was good before he went to Valencia granted, but he's been poor ever since.

fuck me, is it that long since ive watched live games lol damn

to be honest i do download games most of the time nowadays rather than watching streams, which frustrates teh fuck out of me if they're playing up
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Adrian Durham is a c*nt. And talkSPORT is nothing more than a platform to sell adverts to building suppliers, van sales, and fast food deliverers. Its absolutely awful, and special mention for that walking heart attack Alan "I'm a big daft bastard  who loves a drink" Brazil, he's another one. Glad I got that off my chest.

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Adrian Durham is a c*nt. And talkSPORT is nothing more than a platform to sell adverts to building suppliers, van sales, and fast food deliverers. Its absolutely awful, and special mention for that walking heart attack Alan "I'm a big daft bastard  who loves a drink" Brazil, he's another one. Glad I got that off my chest.

Completely agree. There’s not one presenter or programme on talksport worth listening to. Durham is an absolute prick.

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Not sure I've ever listened to TalkSport in my life. Can't remember doing so, anyway.

Why do people listen if it's so shite?
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I've never consciously listened to Talksport either but it was on in a mates car once and fuck me it was dreadful. Why anybody would purposely listen to trolls spouting shit to get you riled up is bizarre. Worst still I don't know anybody who consciously admits to liking it yet its everywhere (similar situation to no-one admitting they owned and liked that James Blunt album from about 10 years ago).

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Not sure I've ever listened to TalkSport in my life. Can't remember doing so, anyway.

Why do people listen if it's so shite?

I’ve listened when they’ve had commentary of one of our games on and you have to sit through Matterface drowning on. What also pisses me off is you’ll hear phrases during the commentary like “Today’s game is brought to you by Check a trade, if you’re looking for some work to be done in your home then ensure you get the best people for the job by going onto the website and typing in your post code to find local tradesman in your area. Oh whilst I was telling you about that, Liverpool hit the post”.

I’ve never listened to a whole show of Durham’s, just clips on twitter etc. I can’t stand people who’s only job is to wind people up to get you to ring in. I’ll happily listen to opinions that I don’t agree with but not extreme ones only being said to stir up an argument. He’s as fake as they come - I doubt he’s ever given a genuine opinion on his show because he knows he needs to give his show a bit of an edge to make it different from other football radio shows. 5Live can have guests come on and talk about football without having a phone in and people will listen - no one would listen to Durham talk about football without being able to argue with him because he’s a nobody.

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I don’t mind Hawksbee & Jacobs, the rest of them are just one massive wind up though.
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I don’t mind Hawksbee & Jacobs, the rest of them are just one massive wind up though.

fuck me, that chelsea bellend is the biggest prick of them all (hawksbee is fine, he seems a normal dude)

with teh rest of them, if you got them away from sport you imagine they'd be fairly normal humans but that jacobs dude is an absolute walking lobotomy

in answer to the question above about why listen to it when it's shite - i used to listen a fair bit a time back, mainly in the car to work and back (hour trip one way), and my sole reason was that i didn't know any other stations that were sport (read that as 'footy') oriented - and i suspect that's the main reason most tune in

but the comments on the various individuals above is pretty spot on, it's a trainwreck to the ears often :D
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It's awful. The whole thing, apart from Hawksbee who is a genuinely witty bloke and even then, the bitterness that oozes out of Jacobs negates any enjoyment. But the way they give the "San" and its contents credence means it's a no for me.

It's tabloid radio. Quick and easy to throw together. Abit like shite tabloids that are full of celebrity shite and reality TV. A quick scan of the football gossip or a quick review of the talking points before or after the latest games and that's the agenda sorted. Previews, summaries, shit news, ads, the odd caller and there's about 10 minutes of content per hour max. They feed off controversy and rely on gullible paranoid fans to engage. The way they try to make the news by having a big splash headline followed by something like  "...................West Ham legend Tony Gale told Talksport today"

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Danny Mills has just put Azpilacueta, Pogba and Rice in his TOTY :lmao

I assume the rest were City players with no Liverpool players?

Azpilicueta is the sign of a really lazy pundit who doesn't watch enough football.