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PL Spurs 0 v Liverpool 1 ‘36 Bobby
« on: January 11, 2020, 03:58:38 pm »
Last ten years at their place(s):

2009-10: 1-2 (Gerrard)
2010-11: 1-2 (Skrtel)
2011-12: 0-4
2012-13: 1-2 (Bale, o.g.)
2013-14: 5-0 (Suárez 2, Henderson, Flanagan, Sterling)
2014-15: 3-0 (Sterling, Gerrard, Moreno)
2015-16: 0-0
2016-17: 1-1 (Milner)
2017-18: 1-4 (Salah)
2018-19: 2-1 (Wijnaldum, Firmino)

This is a fixture that Liverpool have had a complicated relationship with for decades. Tottenham in North London, a game that you'd always feel is a should-win to get a title, but title challenges have taken severe dents there before. Both in 2001-02 and 2008-09 the corresponding game was lost by the odd goal, with the end result being rather devastating.

It also is a game associated with rainy days and 2-1 losses with Spurs players out there playing out of their skin even back when they weren't that good. I remember Robbie Keane scoring twice in 2004 in a game that embodied how every team were able to utilize even the slightest weakness of any given Liverpool side. Another game I particularly remember was our smash and grab under Rafa in 2006-07, when after Luis García had put us ahead they ran around like busy bees the rest of the game but couldn't find a way past Reina in spite of completely dominating. It felt as though Tottenham had a downhill path to goal the way they used to play at home against us back then.

Then the 2010's came and all out of a sudden, Tottenham of all clubs supplanted us from the Big Four before City did, and then we just couldn't find a way past them in the games for three years, and in the table for even longer than that. We even lost at that very ground five years in a row, which previously would've been unthinkable.

Suddenly, the noisy glorified mid-table club had kneecapped our main source of income and ran away with it. Then, a certain Jürgen Klopp signed for us and managed his first game in this very fixture four years ago, ultimately ending 0-0.

Now, it's a bit of a different position. Five years ago, no-one would've believed that Liverpool and Tottenham would face off in a Champions League final. After finishing adrift of them for seven out of eight seasons last decade before the corner was turned right at the end, Spurs looked to have pushed us out of contention even to play in the Champions League, let alone win number six. How fitting was it therefore, that the very nemesis that constantly finished above us without looking much better when we played them, were the team on the receiving end when Liverpool finally conquered Europe again?

Since we last played them in London in 2018, a lot has changed. The Madrid final, the Pochettino implosion, the two dramatic Anfield wins and the appointment of a certain José Mourinho. As a result, the philosophy of football down there is now a long way off what it used to be. In addition, they've moved back into the same site as before they moved to Wembley, but built from scratch.

Is this game a must-win? Probably not, but momentum is very much key in football. Maintaining the unbeaten run is essential in order to continue riding the wave we've been on this season. After last season's absolute mental pace and effort, I really struggled to believe we'd match the 97 points, in particular without reinforcements. The current average is then way better than what unfolded last season and our guys went and smashed the team sitting in second 4-0 away from home on Boxing Day.

So, is it unnecessary to be nervous? Well, Mourinho has that ability to be a proper painful experience to play against, even though the Spurs team are in a severe transition and lack organisation at the back that he so depends on. Harry Kane is also out with a muscular injury. Still, Son and Dele Alli will be there and both have looked lively whenever Son hasn't been sent off lately. After the winning run including Madrid we've had against them, they'll be desperate to set the record straight. Even though they've frequently stumbled this season, they've put on huge fights away to both City and ourselves, so they seem to raise their game when the opposition is really strong.

What will be required to win this game? Well, obviously taking advantage of the weaknesses they have. Spurs' fullbacks are a gaping hole in an otherwise rather competent team. This was proven in spades by Serge Gnabry in the 7-2 demolition, and although Mourinho sets his team up differently to Pochettino, those positions are still an issue for them. The fact that Gazzaniga is a backup keeper on a prolonged run of games is also a big difference from the Spurs teams we usually play.

For ourselves then? Klopp has said that Lovren, Matip and Fabinho are all doing "really well" and as a result, could this mean one or two of them could make the bench for this one? Either way, Oxlade-Chamberlain being back is a big boost considering we've surely lost Milner from this tie, I would expect him to join Henderson and Wijnaldum in the middle of the park. Having Minamino available as an impact player off the bench is also going to be a nice boost, even though the depth defensively didn't exactly improve by Milner's injury. Unless one of Lovren and Matip make it, Henderson and Wijnaldum may well be the primary covers for every defensive position in this game.

Overall, I look to this game with cautious optimism. We're usually very hard to beat against the big teams away from home and have every possibility to keep a clean sheet. Then surely, one of the front three is going to get a golden opportunity to score sometime in this game.
 
0-0, 0-1 to us, 1-1 or 1-2 to us are my basic predictions, but above all continuing the unbeaten run is the main priority.

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Re: PL Spurs v Liverpool
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2020, 04:33:57 pm »
Liverpool: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Mane, Salah, Firmino.

Subs: Adrian, Minamino, Lallana, Shaqiri, Origi, Phillips, Williams

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Re: PL Spurs v Liverpool
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2020, 04:36:18 pm »
Tottenham Hotspur: Gazzaniga, Sanchez, Alderweireld, Tanganga, Aurier, Winks, Eriksen, Rose, Lucas Moura, Alli, Son.
Subs: Vertonghen, Lamela, Vorm, Dier, Lo Celso, Sessegnon, Skipp.

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Re: PL Spurs v Liverpool
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2020, 05:27:37 pm »
Quite a lot of noise at white heart lane so far.

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Re: PL Spurs v Liverpool
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2020, 05:30:17 pm »
0 here were go, Bobby gets us under way.
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Re: PL Spurs v Liverpool
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2020, 05:31:54 pm »
1 Looks to be a 433 from spurs.

Early corner to spurs...

Which is cleared to the edge of the area finally we get it clear
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Re: PL Spurs v Liverpool
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2020, 05:32:47 pm »
2

Bobby with a magnificent  turn, it’s blocked form 5 yards.

Then another shot comes off the post!  Lovely footie
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2020, 05:33:46 pm »
Amazing that neither Mane or Salah managed to get their toe on the ball.
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Re: PL Spurs v Liverpool
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2020, 05:35:04 pm »
4 inverted full backs alert...

And a shot well wide from Mora from 20 yards out
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2020, 05:37:28 pm »
7 really quick break from Spurs, Son runs with it, cuts inside and curls one round the post...  wide, but dangerous.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2020, 05:39:14 pm »
8 free kick 35 yards out, it’s a chipped cross that doesn’t find its man.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2020, 05:40:32 pm »
9 nice diagonal by Mo nearly puts Mané in, but the keeper clears

A good start so far form both sides.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2020, 05:42:28 pm »
11 some nice football form the reds now.  Pressing them dangerously at the back and stretching them with our sideways passing.

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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2020, 05:43:03 pm »
12 long diagonal sees Alli go through the middle, he shoots over, but he’s controlled it housing his hand
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2020, 05:45:13 pm »
14 chances at both ends, spurs are certainly very dangerous on the break though...
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2020, 05:46:15 pm »
How long are Spurs taking with their goal kicks?
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2020, 05:47:17 pm »
78% possession to the reds so far...
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2020, 05:48:50 pm »
18 All pressure with the Reds at the moment, Spurs cannot get out of their area at all.
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2020, 05:49:01 pm »
The only thing we're missing is a goal or two - we are playing lovely football

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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2020, 05:49:43 pm »
They’re rocking a bit now.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2020, 05:50:37 pm »
20 A ball was put down the left but Salah couldn't quite get to the ball and Spurs defend it.
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2020, 05:51:43 pm »
20 Hendo is caught napping and Spurs manage to capture the ball but Eriksen shoots straight at Alisson.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2020, 05:53:17 pm »
22 So close to grabbing the lead there, a corner on the left, initially Bobby and Salah get in the way but then Salah manages to regain control and the ball is put across where the header is saved by the Spurs keeper.
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2020, 05:53:41 pm »
I reckon he’d have been offside
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2020, 05:54:34 pm »
23 Now its Spurs turn after a tussle with the ball between Trent, Hendo and Ali it goes out for a corner. But the corner is cleared.
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2020, 05:55:01 pm »
22 So close to grabbing the lead there, a corner on the left, initially Bobby and Salah get in the way but then Salah manages to regain control and the ball is put across where the header is saved by the Spurs keeper.
Virgil didn't get any power onto it and it went straight to the keeper too

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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2020, 05:55:24 pm »
I reckon he’d have been offside

I would agree with that.
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2020, 05:56:27 pm »
25 A good recovery there by Trent after Son manages to get past him, he then comes back at him strongly and wins the ball and puts it out.
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2020, 05:57:42 pm »
26 A bit to and fro at the moment between the two teams, initially Spurs attack but the ball would have been called offside, then we break and Salah is adjudged to be offside.
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2020, 05:59:16 pm »
28 We are attempting to build from the back but Tottenham are pushing up high and hemming us in at the moment.
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2020, 06:00:44 pm »
29 Absurd Sky trying to say Van Dijk and Gomez had a nibble there, when in fact it was nothing more than a mild challenge on Moura.
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Re: PL Spurs v Liverpool
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2020, 06:00:47 pm »
We’ve lost a bit of rhythm inthe last 5
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2020, 06:02:34 pm »
32 A break in play with an injury for Spurs. Maureen whingeing at the fourth official already.
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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2020, 06:04:54 pm »
34 Yes, it has definitely gone a bitty this game, not really lived up to anything as of yet. We had a bit of move on there, with Hendo, Mane and Salah involved but the ball is cleared. We should have scored there, a lovely ball is floated in by Bobby and while it wasn't easy Sadio should have done better there.
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« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2020, 06:06:55 pm »
36 Goooaaalllllll Bobby.
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Re: PL Spurs 0 v Liverpool 1 ‘36 Bobby
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2020, 06:08:08 pm »
Gone to VAR. Goal is given.
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Re: PL Spurs 0 v Liverpool 1 ‘36 Bobby
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2020, 06:08:30 pm »
Yes!
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« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2020, 06:09:04 pm »
Some lovely work by Hendo there to keep the ball alive, Sadio puts in a cross and Bobby brings it down really well and scores.
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Re: PL Spurs 0 v Liverpool 1 ‘36 Bobby
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2020, 06:10:17 pm »
40 The Bobby song is being sung. Spurs  now searching to get back into the game, a real test of their resolve now. Surely a change of tactic for Spurs now, we are just being patient and keeping the ball.
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Re: PL Spurs 0 v Liverpool 1 ‘36 Bobby
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2020, 06:12:14 pm »
Sorry Rush82 I should have handed over to you.  :-*
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