Author Topic: Spanish Football (Read 584445 times)

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #4040 on:** June 1, 2018, 07:15:10 am »

Quote from: b_joseph on June 1, 2018, 05:09:04 am

Other teams have been as good or even better than this RM team over the years ( fuck, even this season ) and not done, what he has just done.

Read back on what was said about him and his chances there when he took over. We all look like idiots.

This was due to rafa Stan's trying to make sense of the sacking

cissesbeard · « **Reply #4041 on:** June 1, 2018, 08:31:34 am »

Quote from: The North Bank on June 1, 2018, 04:51:42 am

Most skilled footballer I’ve ever seen, the way he caressed the ball, magic.
I don’t think he’s a top manager, he has a group of players that don’t need managing. Tactically he’s been out thought all CL and yet he’s got the magicians to get him through. First 30 mins of CL final was pretty much a case of a world class team being shut down by a world class manager. Zidane is more lucky than good, but his record is incredible, he won’t emulate that anywhere else.

I think its a bit harsh to call Zidane lucky but I know what you mean. I think the situation suited him perfectly. it was a really good squad, which had already won a CL with ancelotti. he had the respect of the squad and from the fans because he was such a good player and madrid legend. I haven't seen them blow many teams away in the CL and they don't have a particular style of play that you would recognise - its been modric and kroos control the tempo of the game and then Ronaldo, isco, bale or ramos gets a goal when they need it.
Zidane deserves total respect for guiding the team to 3 CLs - its amazing but I don't see him going off being a top manager elsewhere.

CarraG238 · « **Reply #4042 on:** June 12, 2018, 04:02:04 pm »

Julen Lopetegui the new ~~sacrificial lamb~~ Real Madrid manager.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-real-madrid-confirm-spain-12690191?55

Real Madrid have confirmed Spain boss Julen Lopetegui as their new manager.

Los Blancos have been on the lookout for a new boss since Zinedine Zidane's sudden decision to quit after the Champions League final.

Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino has been linked with the Bernabeu post but they have agreed a deal with Lopetegui.

He has agreed a three-year deal with the European champions and will officially take charge after the World Cup in Russia.

Lopetegui spent time at Real Madrid as a youngster but only managed just one senior appearance for the club.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #4043 on:** June 12, 2018, 04:05:14 pm »

Dear me, that won't go well.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #4044 on:** June 12, 2018, 04:07:37 pm »

I think Wenger would have been a better bet..

aw1991 · « **Reply #4045 on:** June 12, 2018, 04:12:59 pm »

Good coach, but likely to end like Benitez.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #4046 on:** June 12, 2018, 04:13:11 pm »

He's gone from getting sacked by Porto to the Real job in just over 2 years, he hasn't even managed a game in an international tournament yet. Amazing what beating a few bum teams can do for your reputation.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #4047 on:** June 12, 2018, 04:24:33 pm »

Didn't see that one coming

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #4048 on:** June 12, 2018, 04:35:25 pm »

I'll be surprised if he lasts the season

Xxavi · « **Reply #4049 on:** June 12, 2018, 07:00:19 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on June 12, 2018, 04:13:11 pm

He's gone from getting sacked by Porto to the Real job in just over 2 years, he hasn't even managed a game in an international tournament yet. Amazing what beating a few bum teams can do for your reputation.

Indeed. THere is nothing to write home about Spanish NTs performances either. It was bang average in recent times, and several good games aside (see vs Italy), they have not really even played to their potential.

I just don't see how he unites Madrid's dressing room unless he goes there with a reputation of WC winner.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #4050 on:** June 12, 2018, 07:06:36 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on June 12, 2018, 04:35:25 pm

I'll be surprised if he lasts the season

Yep, if he’s not challenging for the league he will be gone.

I suppose the big name Spanish players will be used to him.. that’s probably why they went for him... just goes to show how little they rate havjng a good manager though.. it’s all about star names there..

OOS · « **Reply #4051 on:** June 12, 2018, 07:24:15 pm »

Quote from: Geppvindh's on June 1, 2018, 03:42:06 am

What do people think of Zidane as a manager? Is he great tactically and manages games well? Or is he the man manager type that has done exceedingly well in keeping a bunch of superstars on board and letting them play freely?

His in game management is the best in football. Tactically, he's heads and shoulders above everyone else in this regard. However, he has a world class squad to do this with.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #4052 on:** June 12, 2018, 08:44:30 pm »

I'm sure his previous comments about Messi will go down well with Ronaldo

robgomm · « **Reply #4053 on:** June 13, 2018, 08:52:50 am »

Apparently the Spanish FA are considering sacking Lopetegui, the President being particularly inclined.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/world-cup-2018-spain-replace-julen-loptegui-manager-real-madrid-betrayal-sacked-latest-a8396371.html

I wouldn't blame them. What an idiot this guy is, putting his career before the job he has to do now. It's pretty arrogant to think you can just accept something as massive as the Real Madrid job, announce it and think everything is just gonna be normal. Be hilarious if the Spanish FA sacked him and went and got Zidane in for the World Cup!

Lfsea · « **Reply #4054 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:06:13 am »

Quote from: robgomm on June 13, 2018, 08:52:50 am

Apparently the Spanish FA are considering sacking Lopetegui, the President being particularly inclined.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/world-cup-2018-spain-replace-julen-loptegui-manager-real-madrid-betrayal-sacked-latest-a8396371.html

I wouldn't blame them. What an idiot this guy is, putting his career before the job he has to do now. It's pretty arrogant to think you can just accept something as massive as the Real Madrid job, announce it and think everything is just gonna be normal. Be hilarious if the Spanish FA sacked him and went and got Zidane in for the World Cup!

Has now been sacked

rocco · « **Reply #4055 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:08:31 am »

Ridiculous Madrid didn’t wait until after the World Cup to sign Julen Lopetegui

Still amazed Madrid didn’t have to get permission from Spain national team first to even speak to Julen Lopetegui

bryanod · « **Reply #4056 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:10:22 am »

Quote from: robgomm on June 13, 2018, 08:52:50 am

Apparently the Spanish FA are considering sacking Lopetegui, the President being particularly inclined.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/world-cup-2018-spain-replace-julen-loptegui-manager-real-madrid-betrayal-sacked-latest-a8396371.html

I wouldn't blame them. What an idiot this guy is, putting his career before the job he has to do now. It's pretty arrogant to think you can just accept something as massive as the Real Madrid job, announce it and think everything is just gonna be normal. Be hilarious if the Spanish FA sacked him and went and got Zidane in for the World Cup!

Bobby Robson got as close as anyone ever since 66 to win England the World Cup having agreed to join PSV beforehand......

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #4057 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:11:05 am »

A strange one

They would rather risk their entire tournament than just keep him in, bringing in a new manager with a day or two till they start the tournament is pretty insane

I'm sure there's a few managers out there that have accepted jobs for clubs and managed at a tournament beforehand, why is it such a huge issue?

.adam · « **Reply #4058 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:11:06 am »

And now the mad bastards at the Spanish FA have sacked him just before the WC is about to start.

The Final Third · « **Reply #4059 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:12:07 am »

He's gone..

Marcus Christenson@m_christenson

Wow. Julen Lopetegui sacked as Spain manager after accepting Real Madrid job

“The negotiations have occurred without any information to the Spanish FA and we were informed just five minutes before the press release. There’s a way to act that needs to be fulfilled.”

sms1986 · « **Reply #4060 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:12:18 am »

Well done Spain!

Yiannis · « **Reply #4061 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:13:22 am »

This was only bettered on old FM games when there was a glitch when the national manager of a team would leave in the middle of World Cup because the contract would run out at the end of June.

Dench57 · « **Reply #4062 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:13:47 am »

get Roy in to steady the ship

rocco · « **Reply #4063 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:13:49 am »

Quote from: The Final Third on June 13, 2018, 11:12:07 am

He's gone..

Marcus Christenson@m_christenson

Wow. Julen Lopetegui sacked as Spain manager after accepting Real Madrid job

Had he already signed contracts with Madrid ?

The Final Third · « **Reply #4064 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:15:24 am »

Quote from: rocco on June 13, 2018, 11:13:49 am

Had he already signed contracts with Madrid ?

Yep..from the Spanish FA:

“The negotiations have occurred without any information to the Spanish FA and we were informed just five minutes before the press release. There’s a way to act that needs to be fulfilled.”

rocco · « **Reply #4065 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:17:55 am »

Quote from: The Final Third on June 13, 2018, 11:15:24 am

Yep..from the Spanish FA:

“The negotiations have occurred without any information to the Spanish FA and we were informed just five minutes before the press release. There’s a way to act that needs to be fulfilled.”

Seems strange they didn’t have to get permission from the spainish FA first ?

Djimi Smicer34 · « **Reply #4066 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:19:09 am »

Fireman Sam Allardyce will be rubbing his hands.

The Final Third · « **Reply #4067 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:20:41 am »

Quote from: rocco on June 13, 2018, 11:17:55 am

Seems strange they didn’t have to get permission from the spainish FA first ?

Guillem Balague@GuillemBalague

The story so far about Lopetegui and Real Madrid

RM made contact on Friday. Lopetegui left it to agent but took his decision on Monday

Florentino told President of @rfef few minutes before official announcement Tuesday

Lopetegui told players minutes before training last night

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #4068 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:22:57 am »

Quote from: rocco on June 13, 2018, 11:17:55 am

Seems strange they didn’t have to get permission from the spainish FA first ?

He probably did have to and didn't. He reportedly had agreed a contract extension with the Spanish FA last month. As mad as their response is, his decision will have potentially divided the dressing room (as will the Spanish FA's response).

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #4069 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:24:29 am »

Can't blame the FA one iota. You can't allow people to act how they want just because it's a few days before the World Cup. He tried to have his cake and eat it, so they whipped the rug from under his feet. Hope he gets sacked within a few months at Real, that'll learn him.

rocco · « **Reply #4070 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:25:40 am »

Quote from: The Final Third on June 13, 2018, 11:20:41 am

Guillem Balague@GuillemBalague

The story so far about Lopetegui and Real Madrid

RM made contact on Friday. Lopetegui left it to agent but took his decision on Monday

Florentino told President of @rfef few minutes before official announcement Tuesday

Lopetegui told players minutes before training last night

Just seems strange if he has already signed as Manager for Madrid and not accepted the job but to sign after World Cup when he resigns as spainisg coach

Didn’t think you could sign for a Club while managing your country without some agreement

The Final Third · « **Reply #4071 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:27:20 am »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on June 13, 2018, 11:22:57 am

He probably did have to and didn't. He reportedly had agreed a contract extension with the Spanish FA last month. As mad as their response is, his decision will have potentially divided the dressing room (as will the Spanish FA's response).

No way the Spanish FA would've permitted it..unless it was undisclosed by them too. The players themselves seemed unfussed by it going by reports.

rocco · « **Reply #4072 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:27:21 am »

Madrid shower of Cun*s

B0151? · « **Reply #4073 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:27:38 am »

I don't think their decision is that mad at all. What a massive bellend.

Think how massive player power is when it comes to job security at Real Madrid, yeah you'd probably expect him to act professionally until the end of the World Cup, but he's already acted unprofessionally with the way he's got and announced the job.

RedSamba · « **Reply #4074 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:28:02 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8TqsgPBuwc

Moyes for Spain!

J_Kopite · « **Reply #4075 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:28:08 am »

Real Madrid are trash

rocco · « **Reply #4076 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:28:28 am »

Surely the Spanish FA have a legal case against Lopetegui and Madrid

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #4077 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:30:16 am »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on June 13, 2018, 11:24:29 am

Can't blame the FA one iota. You can't allow people to act how they want just because it's a few days before the World Cup. He tried to have his cake and eat it, so they whipped the rug from under his feet. Hope he gets sacked within a few months at Real, that'll learn him.

Assuming there's something massive i'm missing here but i don't get the outrage to be honest

I don't get how he's 'acting how he wants' or what it being a few days before the world cup has to do with it. He's taken a massive job that begins after the tournament, didn't Conte take the Chelsea job while Italy manager and Van Gaal do the same while Holland manager?

He's still managing the national side regardless of the Real job

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #4078 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:31:05 am »

Quote from: rocco on June 13, 2018, 11:28:28 am

Surely the Spanish FA have a legal case against Lopetegui and Madrid

That's what I've been thinking

QR350 · « **Reply #4079 on:** June 13, 2018, 11:31:09 am »

Couls get messy if any party decides to take it further into legal matters. Either way, Spanish FA are in the right here imo