Author Topic: Preview: Liverpool vs Bayern Munich, Tuesday 19th February, 20:00 (Read 45335 times)

Lone Star Red · « **Reply #120 on:** February 15, 2019, 06:51:19 pm »

Neuer starting for Bayern in their league game against Augsburg tonight.

rocco · « **Reply #121 on:** February 15, 2019, 07:05:41 pm »

Bay Munich tonight
4-3-3
1 Manuel Neuer (c)
32 Joshua Kimmich
4 Niklas Süle
5 Mats Hummels
27 David Alaba
18 Leon Goretzka
6 Thiago
11 James Rodríguez
22 Serge Gnabry
9 Robert Lewandowski
29 Kingsley Coman
Subs
7 Franck Ribéry
8 Javi Martínez
13 Rafinha
17 Jérôme Boateng
25 Thomas Müller
26 Sven Ulreich
35 Renato Sanches

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #122 on:** February 15, 2019, 07:34:14 pm »

They have a quality midfield, with Martinez on the bench as well.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #123 on:** February 15, 2019, 07:45:12 pm »

Bayern 1-0 down, as DN said has to be one of the fastest conceded goals ever in the Bundesliga!

Dim Glas · « **Reply #124 on:** February 15, 2019, 07:48:19 pm »

Quote from: jillc on February 15, 2019, 07:45:12 pm

Bayern 1-0 down, as DN said has to be one of the fastest conceded goals ever in the Bundesliga!

apparently it has been confirmed as the quickest goal ever in the league

Anyway, Bayern have now got the first of probably what will be 4 or 5 goals tonight.

Fordy · « **Reply #125 on:** February 15, 2019, 07:56:45 pm »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on February 15, 2019, 07:48:19 pm

apparently it has been confirmed as the quickest goal ever in the league

Anyway, Bayern have now got the first of probably what will be 4 or 5 goals tonight.

Really? They're 2-1 down now.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #126 on:** February 15, 2019, 08:06:04 pm »

Quote from: Fordy on February 15, 2019, 07:56:45 pm

Really? They're 2-1 down now.

Once they equalised they drifted badly in the game once again and paid for it. It really should be a fast start against these on Tuesday, take an early chance and be ruthless when we get them.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #127 on:** February 15, 2019, 08:11:55 pm »

I hope we press them like we did Roma last season. They can't deal with pace that's for sure.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #128 on:** February 15, 2019, 08:17:47 pm »

Quote from: Fordy on February 15, 2019, 07:56:45 pm

Really? They're 2-1 down now.

I am trying to mocker them into dropping points

But still they have the time in this one. Augsburg working their backsides off so far, massive effort from them, and defending pretty well, apart from a couple moments.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #129 on:** February 15, 2019, 08:19:56 pm »

2-2 now very harsh on Ausburg to be honest.

Fordy · « **Reply #130 on:** February 15, 2019, 08:47:55 pm »

Quote from: jillc on February 15, 2019, 08:19:56 pm

2-2 now very harsh on Ausburg to be honest.

Winning now but they were never really going to lose this match.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #131 on:** February 15, 2019, 08:50:19 pm »

Fast attacking football and counter-pressing that we can create is not something they see often, especially at the level that we can create. So hoping we take our chances and opportunities

Hazell · « **Reply #132 on:** February 15, 2019, 08:53:36 pm »

Thanks for the OP alonso

Can't wait for this, never seen us play Bayern Munich in the Champions League, it's going to be a lot of fun I expect.

I'd take 4-0

Dim Glas · « **Reply #133 on:** February 15, 2019, 09:54:52 pm »

Kingsley Coman injured his ankle right at the end of the game, Kovac said after the game it didn't look too good, but they will know more tomorrow. He had been their man of the match too, scoring twice.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #134 on:** February 15, 2019, 09:55:59 pm »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on February 15, 2019, 09:54:52 pm

Kingsley Coman injured his ankle right at the end of the game, Kovac said after the game it didn't look too good, but they will know more tomorrow. He had been their man of the match too, scoring twice.

Is Robben injured as well?

Lone Star Red · « **Reply #135 on:** February 15, 2019, 09:57:06 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on February 15, 2019, 09:55:59 pm

Is Robben injured as well?

Yes.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #136 on:** February 15, 2019, 10:03:48 pm »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on February 15, 2019, 09:54:52 pm

Kingsley Coman injured his ankle right at the end of the game, Kovac said after the game it didn't look too good, but they will know more tomorrow. He had been their man of the match too, scoring twice.

I must have missed that, he had a good game too was certainly their best player.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #137 on:** February 15, 2019, 10:04:16 pm »

Quote from: Lone Star Red on February 15, 2019, 09:57:06 pm

Yes.

Good. The more the better.

RogerTheRed · « **Reply #138 on:** February 15, 2019, 10:23:13 pm »

Come on Redmen!!
Really looking forward to this. They are aging and I think they will be like an old bus in mud. Centre defence obvious issue for us. We need the others round whoever plays there to avoid any real concern.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #139 on:** February 15, 2019, 10:28:56 pm »

Quote from: RogerTheRed on February 15, 2019, 10:23:13 pm

Come on Redmen!!
Really looking forward to this. They are aging and I think they will be like an old bus in mud. Centre defence obvious issue for us. We need the others round whoever plays there to avoid any real concern.

This aging thing is overstated. They're aging in a couple of positions but there is plenty of young talent in their side

Conman
Gnabry
Goretzka
Thiago
James
Kimmich
Alaba [still 26]
Sule

That's most of their starting line up. Lewandowski certainly hasn't declined.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #140 on:** February 15, 2019, 10:33:40 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on February 15, 2019, 10:28:56 pm

This aging thing is overstated. They're aging in a couple of positions but there is plenty of young talent in their side

Conman
Gnabry
Goretzka
Thiago
James
Kimmich
Alaba [still 26]
Sule

That's most of their starting line up. Lewandowski certainly hasn't declined.

I've given up pointing it out now

They are not going to walk out onto the Anfield pitch using zimmerframes. The only place it is a slight issue is central defence, not so much aging, just lack of pace with Hummels and Boateng.

Mind, IF Coman isn't available (and he may be ok, he didn't leave the stadium on crutches), they may have to play Ribery.

lukeb1981 · « **Reply #141 on:** February 15, 2019, 11:01:42 pm »

If we go full throttle and hop off them from the start i really dont think they can live with that.

Raid · « **Reply #142 on:** February 16, 2019, 12:18:34 am »

It's such a shame Gomez and VVD aren't available for this. It strikes me as a game the full on gegenpress would be ideal for, with a real solid base behind it.

I think we have enough to win at Anfield, and hopefully we can take a two goal lead to Munich. This one has the juices really flowing again after all the League nonsense we've heard in recent weeks

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #143 on:** February 16, 2019, 12:20:01 am »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on February 15, 2019, 10:33:40 pm

I've given up pointing it out now They are not going to walk out onto the Anfield pitch using zimmerframes. The only place it is a slight issue is central defence, not so much aging, just lack of pace with Hummels and Boateng.

Mind, IF Coman isn't available (and he may be ok, he didn't leave the stadium on crutches), they may have to play Ribery.

I agree its a lazy narative and opinion

Suareznumber7 · « **Reply #144 on:** February 16, 2019, 03:11:32 am »

Both of Augsburg’s goals came from attacking the Bayern right side. Sule dropped deep earlier then the other 3 backs and kept the wide attacker’s onside. Looked a lot like what Skrtel used to do when playing for us.

RogerTheRed · « **Reply #145 on:** February 16, 2019, 05:21:16 am »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on February 15, 2019, 10:33:40 pm

I've given up pointing it out now They are not going to walk out onto the Anfield pitch using zimmerframes. The only place it is a slight issue is central defence, not so much aging, just lack of pace with Hummels and Boateng.

Mind, IF Coman isn't available (and he may be ok, he didn't leave the stadium on crutches), they may have to play Ribery.

Let’s see how they stand up to a high press and quick breaks. In my humble opinion a number of their squad have had their best years and we could well be the sort of team to exploit this.

deano2727 · « **Reply #146 on:** February 16, 2019, 08:24:03 am »

I would love if we went back to last seasons full throttle football and beat them by 3 or more. We are well capable of it. It could be the catalyst to take us up a level, much like happened this time last year.

Go up a level from here and we are serious contenders for the double.

gray19lfc · « **Reply #147 on:** February 16, 2019, 11:23:50 am »

Plans to welcome the bus?

SteveZissou · « **Reply #148 on:** February 16, 2019, 12:34:43 pm »

Not buying any of this ageing stuff about Bayern. Remember when we played an ageing AC Milan in the 2007 final, a team that was shit in Serie A that season... a team we dominated for large chunks in Athens... but was still 2-0 down and we lost 2-1... what matters is that we put the ball in the back of the net. If Salah's luck is on and Firmino finds his range only then will we make them pay. But if we're having one of those days then this is going to be a close call, particularly with our makeshift backline, if they punish us with one or two goals, then this is going to be uphill. Though, I believe that even if we draw 1-1 we can go to Munich and get the result we need (with VVD back).

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #149 on:** February 16, 2019, 12:54:49 pm »

It sounds like Coman will be fit to play it seems the injury is not as severe as first though.

ScubaSteve · « **Reply #150 on:** February 16, 2019, 01:05:05 pm »

Bayern have a great team it’s gonna be a classic! I’ve never seen Bayern so can’t wait

Is having a break from competitive footy a positive thing? I’m not too sure so let’s hope we hit the ground running from the off

Bobby needs to improve and given his history in the German league I’m sure he can score

Quote from: jillc on February 16, 2019, 12:54:49 pm

It sounds like Coman will be fit to play it seems the injury is not as severe as first though.

Coman is fantastic player would love for him to be injured but looks like he’ll play

AfricanBavarian · « **Reply #151 on:** February 16, 2019, 01:11:52 pm »

At least Coman will be got to play this fixture....

Trendisnotdestiny · « **Reply #152 on:** February 16, 2019, 03:26:33 pm »

Quote from: jillc on February 16, 2019, 12:54:49 pm

It sounds like Coman will be fit to play it seems the injury is not as severe as first though.

Quick question - when stories like this break (oh no, he is likely out for LFC ----> "its not good" type stuff from Kovic) and then the next day scan shows no structural or ligament damage and he is cleared to play, how much of this is gamesmanship?

In other words, how accurate are these reports from Germany etc...

Either way, just think its a bit nutty.

FlashGordon · « **Reply #153 on:** February 16, 2019, 03:31:58 pm »

Quote from: your worst happily. on February 16, 2019, 03:26:33 pm

Quick question - when stories like this break (oh no, he is likely out for LFC ----> "its not good" type stuff from Kovic) and then the next day scan shows no structural or ligament damage and he is cleared to play, how much of this is gamesmanship?

In other words, how accurate are these reports from Germany etc...

Either way, just think its a bit nutty.

What good would fooling people for a day do? Fair enough if they said he was out and then he was just named in the team it would be underhand tactics but not sure what they get from intentionally fooling people for a day.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #154 on:** February 16, 2019, 03:32:01 pm »

Quote from: your worst happily. on February 16, 2019, 03:26:33 pm

Quick question - when stories like this break (oh no, he is likely out for LFC ----> "its not good" type stuff from Kovic) and then the next day scan shows no structural or ligament damage and he is cleared to play, how much of this is gamesmanship?

In other words, how accurate are these reports from Germany etc...

Either way, just think its a bit nutty.

I dont think it was gamesmanship here. Coman has had 2 bad injuries quickly after each other recently, and when he goes down I think they are genuinely worried. And the player understandably seemed concerned at the time too.

Trendisnotdestiny · « **Reply #155 on:** February 16, 2019, 03:38:06 pm »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on February 16, 2019, 03:32:01 pm

I dont think it was gamesmanship here. Coman has had 2 bad injuries quickly after each other recently, and when he goes down I think they are genuinely worried. And the player understandably seemed concerned at the time too.

Sounds good. Maybe I am just used to when JK says something is not good right after the game and we await the scan (it has rarely been a positive turn of events).

Trying to remember the last time we had a turnaround surprise scan? Henderson maybe or Milner?

Magix · « **Reply #156 on:** February 16, 2019, 04:22:54 pm »

We seem to be evenly matched going in, Virgil out, Matip likely with Fab in defence against their team in transition. Will be a lot more confident if Lovren starts and Fab is deployed in midfield.

Indomitable_Carp · « **Reply #157 on:** February 16, 2019, 04:25:46 pm »

I had a dream last night where we beat these with a pretty big scoreline. Not going to say it here though in fear of jinxing it.

It's getting a bit exciting now though.

Hazell · « **Reply #158 on:** February 16, 2019, 11:19:37 pm »

Liverpool pose that test on Tuesday and for Robben, who knows every chance to exceed his 110 Champions League appearances must be grasped at this point, the prospect of Anfield in the last 16 summons a few spectres. His involvement against Jürgen Klopp’s side is in question because of a thigh injury but there is an imbalance he would like to redress. “I think, if you ask [about] the worst stadium for me, it’s probably Liverpool,” he says. “You always have your favourite opponent and there always has to be a negative one.”

It is a rare glimpse of old wounds and partly explains why, when the fixture was confirmed, Robben called it “the worst possible draw” for Bayern. He was there when, in 2004-05 and 2006-07, Chelsea fell maddeningly short in Champions League semi-finals. The first was decided by Luis García’s “ghost goal”, and Robben prefers to leave it at “we’ll never know” when asked whether it went in. The second was settled on penalties, one of which he sent too close to Pepe Reina, and proved to be his penultimate match for the club. He remembers that as an “emotional game” and, both times, Chelsea were repelled by a formidable defensive blockade.

“At that time [Liverpool] were really capable of being this cup fighter team, also in the FA Cup or [League] Cup,” he says. “In one or two games they could really live up to it and perform; just not the whole season, which was maybe too much. That was their biggest quality: they were there at the moment they needed to be there.

“Now I think it changed and they developed really well. The manager has done a great job. Last year they were in the Champions League final and at the moment they are top [of the Premier League]. It’s a long, long time ago that they won the league and that’s the one they’re dreaming of.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/feb/16/arjen-robben-liverpool-bayern-munich-champions-league-preview

him_15 · « **Reply #159 on:** February 17, 2019, 06:07:53 am »

I guess Matip and Fabino to start in CB and Henderson as DM.